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redeyes posted:Is anyone that just bought an Intel mac happy about that decision? I bought an 4-port Intel MBP in August and I still think it's a great machine. The only thing I really want from the M1 is the battery and the cooler running chassis, I couldn't care less about the performance for what I do. I knew going into this that a new one was coming but I think I assumed like a lot of people that it would be close to a like-for-like replacement, not the giant leap we see right now. At least I can still bootcamp into Windows!
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I was one of those iPad Pro as my computer type of folks and while I still stand by the idea that it can work for people if you can work around some limits I ended up selling the Pro 2018 and got the base MBA. It rules.
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redeyes posted:Is anyone that just bought an Intel mac happy about that decision? Newp. Air and Mini this year, both replacing fairly ancient models (2011 air, 2012 mini). It couldn’t have been a worse decision! Was nooooothing on the horizon when I bought, the Mini had recently been ‘refreshed’ (drive size amendment) and the loving Air was a brand new model. If I knew my Mini was gonna ‘die’ on me I wouldn’t have bought the air full stop, it’s been a bad year for hardware for me for sure.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Newp. Air and Mini this year, both replacing fairly ancient models (2011 air, 2012 mini). It couldn’t have been a worse decision! Was nooooothing on the horizon when I bought, the Mini had recently been ‘refreshed’ (drive size amendment) and the loving Air was a brand new model. Trade them in before they lose any more value 
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Friend of mine has no interest in M1 and will buy the last Intel MBP they make because he needs Windows because he tunes cars with it.
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Data Graham posted:Friend of mine has no interest in M1 and will buy the last Intel MBP they make because he needs Windows because he tunes cars with it. And this is where you buy a $250 Dell or lenovo
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redeyes posted:Is anyone that just bought an Intel mac happy about that decision? Dudes that use R or VM’s
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i got work to buy this mac mini i7 about six months or so ago, it's great. i rely on homebrew and my old computer was dead. the i7 is still very fast for what i need it to do. i couldn't wait for M1 to come out, and I couldn't wait until homebrew figured their poo poo out, and I didn't pay for it. happy all around.
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TACD posted:It always seemed incredibly weird to me that Apple was trying to make their own shows; it’s just so wildly, completely outside of their core competencies as to be totally bizarre. Like, Apple has been heavily involved with music since the iPod but they don’t have a record label or a band. Some of these things to me seem like things that the stockmarket "demands" that they do, so they do it. Apple Watch (ended up being successful, but basically for reasons they didn't forsee or comprehend) Apple TV+ (the physical TV project is presumably dead) Apple Car
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Can ARM tech eventually benefit high performance/gaming PCs? Or is there no point in developing ARM gaming PCs since you can just make a bigger CPU and keep feeding more power since you have much better cooling options? Its just weird that supposedly cell phone/tablet CPUs are outperforming hotter/slower/more power hungry processors? I rewrote this post like six times trying to ask this question without outing myself an as an idiot. I have failed.
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I don't think anyone else is going to invest that much into it like Apple has. Maybe not this decade.
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So regarding my 16GB/1TB M1 MacBook Air that was supposed to have been originally delivered by today but was pushed back unexpectedly to a delivery window of 12/30-1/7, I got both an email and text update from Apple with the new delivery window this morning. No explanation just a note on the new dates. Tonight I just got a FedEx notification that a package was picked up in Shanghai with a pending delivery date. It is clearly the laptop based on the weight and dimensions, and I also checked the Apple site and it now says preparing for shipment and it looks like my CC has a pending charge. So I guess maybe I'll get this thing in 2020. What a mess. They must just be changing estimates to be very conservative because logistics are trashed for the holiday season. Yesterday I was just sitting around so I opened a chat with apple support asking for at least a reason for the month delay and the rep told me that someone would call me back in about 9 days. I think I should most likely have the thing by then, hah.
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Apple is doing much better than other electronic manufacturers when it comes to actually shipping things during this pandemic. It’d be impressive if they weren’t the richest corporation in the world
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Hey at least apple let’s you order it and just gives you a date. It’s much better vs just trying to F5 random sites all day.
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Binary Badger posted:Jobs screamed at IBM when they failed to deliver 3 GHz parts, then IBM had the nerve to tell Jobs 'psst, if you slip us a few tens of millions, maybe we could speed things up' to which he allegedly exploded and went back to Intel and the rest is history.. I feel a little bad for Motorola which was supposedly working on a dual-core G4 that they thought would be Apple's Plan B when IBM failed to deliver a mobile G5
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buglord posted:Can ARM tech eventually benefit high performance/gaming PCs? Or is there no point in developing ARM gaming PCs since you can just make a bigger CPU and keep feeding more power since you have much better cooling options? Its just weird that supposedly cell phone/tablet CPUs are outperforming hotter/slower/more power hungry processors? the switch is an arm console. the gamecube, wii, ps3 and xbox 360 were all powerpc which is very similar to arm.
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Totally Huge posted:So regarding my 16GB/1TB M1 MacBook Air that was supposed to have been originally delivered by today but was pushed back unexpectedly to a delivery window of 12/30-1/7, I got both an email and text update from Apple with the new delivery window this morning. No explanation just a note on the new dates. Tonight I just got a FedEx notification that a package was picked up in Shanghai with a pending delivery date. It is clearly the laptop based on the weight and dimensions, and I also checked the Apple site and it now says preparing for shipment and it looks like my CC has a pending charge. So I guess maybe I'll get this thing in 2020. What a mess. They must just be changing estimates to be very conservative because logistics are trashed for the holiday season. Mine didn't go through that shenanigans; they originally projected a delivery date of 12/11-12/18, and it actually arrived today a few days ahead of schedule. For what it's worth, it went from Shanghai to my door in 4 days, so once it's shipped, it seems to move at warp speed.
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Ok Comboomer posted:I wouldn’t count Intel out, they have all the cash and size in the world and an industry full of well-established relationships to both leverage and protect. buglord posted:Can ARM tech eventually benefit high performance/gaming PCs? Or is there no point in developing ARM gaming PCs since you can just make a bigger CPU and keep feeding more power since you have much better cooling options? Its just weird that supposedly cell phone/tablet CPUs are outperforming hotter/slower/more power hungry processors? ARM has higher performance reference designs coming soonish which should help the hardware side of things, but the rest is still a big rear end question mark. Nvidia's eventual ownership/involvement could make things interesting.
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Plus I'm not sure that Intel is willing to follow the path of no compromises when it comes to doing the level of optimization that Apple has.. Also isn't Intel still stuck on 10 nanometer dies and only now planning 7 nm parts while the M1 is already at 5 nm? I'm not so sure 32/64/128 core GPUS are going to be an easy feat, but Apple's success so far with the 8 core GPU is definitely at least a double or triple; 16/32 should provide the home run Apple needs for their graphics to take the lead..
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Binary Badger posted:Plus I'm not sure that Intel is willing to follow the path of no compromises when it comes to doing the level of optimization that Apple has.. You can't really compare process sizes between fabs like that, they all measure their dimensions differently. That said I have no idea how Intel 7nm is supposed to compare to TMSC 5nm.
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I wonder at what point here we start getting to a dimension where electrons are just quantum tunneling between different parts of the die because the sizes are so small.
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The last I had read, TSMC's initial 7nm density was about on-par with Intel's 10 nm, but with their 7nm improvements and now at 5 nm, TSMC is definitely ahead and Intel's 7nm was previously delayed again by about 6 months, so it's not looking too great for them.
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Yeah and if you're gonna scrunch a 16/32/64 core GPU down to where it fits in the real estate they decide to give on the already crowded die, you need that shrinky-dink tech.. But yeah we're fast approaching the point where signal traces are like a few
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Also interesting, Sonnet just released a breakout box for any Thunderbolt 3 Mac to use, including the new AS Macs. https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/12/08/sonnet-debuts-three-slot-pcie-expansion-system-for-thunderbolt-3-computers Available in standalone or rackmount version.. also supposed to be good for ProTools users as they can shove up to 3 HDX cards into it so even with an iMac, Mini, or MBP you can have that DSP acceleration to the extreme. Kinda blunts the need for a Mac Pro, though..
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Yeah I have no regrets about not waiting for these lol
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TACD posted:Yeah I have no regrets about not waiting for these lol You can get both sizes formats for Sony’s noise canceling headphones for less than this one pair from Apple. And they are both widely reviewed as the best noise canceling headphones in the market. https://www.sony.com/electronics/headband-headphones/wh-1000xm4 https://www.sony.com/electronics/truly-wireless/wf-1000xm3
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Data Graham posted:Friend of mine has no interest in M1 and will buy the last Intel MBP they make because he needs Windows because he tunes cars with it. Bob Morales posted:And this is where you buy a $250 Dell or lenovo That's literally what I bought one off you for
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"And you call them pods, despite the fact they're clearly over-ears?" "Well, uhh... You see... The thing you should... Excuse me." "Of course."
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Nitrousoxide posted:I wonder at what point here we start getting to a dimension where electrons are just quantum tunneling between different parts of the die because the sizes are so small. I’ve wondered about this, supposedly according to Google, the size of an atom of silicon is roughly 0.2nm. I don’t know exactly how fab sizes map here, i.e., is that supposed to be the size of a single transistor? At 5nm, that’s only ~25 atoms (in 1D math), so either way this is some pretty impressive science.
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Some Goon posted:"And you call them pods, despite the fact they're clearly over-ears?" do you know what the definition of pod is?
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This case is the worst thing Apple has made in at least a decade: It's like they 100% nailed the original AirPods case, and then just decided to completely gently caress this up in every possible way. It rules.
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frogbs posted:This case is the worst thing Apple has made in at least a decade: agree it's dumb as poo poo like i think their point is to make it thin to slip in a case or bag next to an ipad or laptop but jesus surely there are better options
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frogbs posted:This case is the worst thing Apple has made in at least a decade: Apple Bra
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mediaphage posted:agree it's dumb as poo poo Yeah, I mean, I don't think that makes it any easier to bring those headphones anywhere. Compared to the similar Sony headphones, whose case, you know, meets the definition of a case: 
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Apple Bra That's the first thing that popped up into my head, actually.
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Nitrousoxide posted:You can get both sizes formats for Sony’s noise canceling headphones for less than this one pair from Apple. And they are both widely reviewed as the best noise canceling headphones in the market.
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buglord posted:Can ARM tech eventually benefit high performance/gaming PCs? Or is there no point in developing ARM gaming PCs since you can just make a bigger CPU and keep feeding more power since you have much better cooling options? Its just weird that supposedly cell phone/tablet CPUs are outperforming hotter/slower/more power hungry processors? If anyone will do it, it'll be nvidia they own ARM now and I'm sure they'd like to sell you a gaming pc where they get all the profit.
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I’m pretty excited, my MBP 1TB/16gb was listed as due for delivery on the 15th but I just got an e-mail saying it’ll be arriving at the collection point tomorrow. That was a pleasant surprise hopefully now I’ll be able to migrate from my iMac and get that sold before Xmas.
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Some Goon posted:"And you call them pods, despite the fact they're clearly over-ears?" ???
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