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Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Squallege posted:

Then he puts the dress up to his face and smells it

I will say it again.
No Mickey Mouse stuff.

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Krampus Grewcock
Aug 26, 2010

Gruss vom Krampus!
Maybe I skimmed that part because I also I don't remember that part.

I both want and not want it on the Special Edition 3D 4K edition.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
Yeah, as far as I recall, he definitely unzipped his pants, but did not whip it out and jerk it. Other than the unzipping, it was pretty much identical to what ended up in the film. Hang on, let me check my e-copy.

Got it!





So yeah, there is no secret Tommy flogging the little Denny footage.


That we are aware of.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Ensign_Ricky posted:


So yeah, there is no secret Tommy flogging the little Denny footage.


I'm not understanding how you can read that passage and come to that conclusion.

LaughMyselfTo
Nov 15, 2012

by XyloJW
The key word is "simulates". No Mickey Mouse stuff here, he's not low-brow enough to actually gently caress the dress. He's not some Mickey Mouse pornographer, he's a serious filmmaker, and in serious Hollywood we only simulate that kind of thing.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Neo Rasa posted:

I'm not understanding how you can read that passage and come to that conclusion.

I read it as he unzips his fly, and holds the dress against his jockey clad bulge. But again, that's just what was in the script. The second passage I posted makes it clear that the scene filmed was exactly what we saw, sans unzipping.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Ensign_Ricky posted:

I read it as he unzips his fly, and holds the dress against his jockey clad bulge. But again, that's just what was in the script. The second passage I posted makes it clear that the scene filmed was exactly what we saw, sans unzipping.

"He is breathing hard and writhing in pelvic thrusts...".

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Madkal posted:

"He is breathing hard and writhing in pelvic thrusts...".

Yes, as established, he's simulating sex, but no actual penis on dress action was involved.


(And I'm really surprised that no one commented on my euphemism of "flogging the little Denny".)

canned from the band
Sep 13, 2007

I'm a man of intensity. Of cool, and youth, and passionately
Greg's gonna be chatting about the book at The Prince Charles cinema: http://www.princecharlescinema.com/...ampaign=twitter

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
Tommy's now offering a Wiseau-designed leather bracelett with every purchase of a three-pack of his underwear on his store.



edit: bracelett

Ensign_Ricky fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Aug 15, 2014

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
I tried to explain to my girlfriend about the appeal of The Room last night, but I found it hard to convey the appreciation I have for the movie.
First she asked me if it was one of those "so bad it's good" kind of movies, to which I replied that it wasn't really. She asked if that meant it was a so bad it's bad kind of movie, and if so, why would you want to watch it all? I tried to explain that watching the Room is a unique experience because there is no other movie like it. I tried to drive home the idea that it is more of an experience (as in you are experiencing something that you never thought could exist) more than just viewing a movie, but I don't think I sold it too well.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
It really does defy classification in that sense. These days, when someone asks me what it is, I try to stick to "a fascinating experience that everyone needs to have".

If it's not on one of those 500 MOVIES YOU NEED TO WATCH BEFORE YOU DIE lists, it needs to be.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

During the Rifftrax Live: Godzilla 98 event tonight, there was an "Oh hi Johnny, I didn't know it was you!" joke during a similarly terrible scene in a pharmacy.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008


Now here is a movie that is absolutely worse than The Room.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Chairman Capone posted:

Now here is a movie that is absolutely worse than The Room.
Yeah it was pretty loving terrible haha. I had forgotten the extent of how bad it is until tonight.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

Ensign_Ricky posted:

Yes, as established, he's simulating sex, but no actual penis on dress action was involved.


(And I'm really surprised that no one commented on my euphemism of "flogging the little Denny".)

I wonder if Denny is watching when Tommy is humping the dress.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


davidspackage posted:

I wonder if Denny is watching when Tommy is humping the dress.

Of course. It is, like all the other sex scenes, shot from Denny's PoV.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

cptn_dr posted:

Of course. It is, like all the other sex scenes, shot from Denny's PoV.

I feel like, somehow, this hasn't been brought up, despite the huge amount of discussion of this film: The two sex scenes with Johnny and Lisa are the same scene with different music. Surely everyone has noticed this. It simply hasn't been commented on because we all already knew. It's just that the repeated mentioning of the numerous sex-scenes in this film compelled me to clarify that, of the three sex scenes, two are, in fact, the same one.

HalPhilipWalker
Feb 14, 2008
Does Christmas smell like oranges to you?
I like to think that Lisa stopped loving Johnny because every time they had sex, he kept sprinkling rose petals on her.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Did you like last night?

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

cptn_dr posted:

Of course. It is, like all the other sex scenes, shot from Denny's PoV.

All scenes are a drug-addled Denny recalling the events that lead up to his life breaking down. In real life, Johnny was just a mildly odd-looking guy with a slight accent, but Denny went overboard in trying to recall him.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Snak posted:

I feel like, somehow, this hasn't been brought up, despite the huge amount of discussion of this film: The two sex scenes with Johnny and Lisa are the same scene with different music. Surely everyone has noticed this. It simply hasn't been commented on because we all already knew. It's just that the repeated mentioning of the numerous sex-scenes in this film compelled me to clarify that, of the three sex scenes, two are, in fact, the same one.

Well, it's not exactly the same footage. However, it's all from the same day of filming, and only exists like that because Tommy didn't want to leave anything on the cutting room floor.

Tommy has kind of a hoarder's mentality when it comes down to it. Keep everything, throw nothing away.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Madkal posted:

I tried to explain to my girlfriend about the appeal of The Room last night, but I found it hard to convey the appreciation I have for the movie.
First she asked me if it was one of those "so bad it's good" kind of movies, to which I replied that it wasn't really. She asked if that meant it was a so bad it's bad kind of movie, and if so, why would you want to watch it all? I tried to explain that watching the Room is a unique experience because there is no other movie like it. I tried to drive home the idea that it is more of an experience (as in you are experiencing something that you never thought could exist) more than just viewing a movie, but I don't think I sold it too well.

It may sound sexist, but most women I know don't like bad movies. Even ones that are so bad they're good. They also don't seem to like Eastbound and Down or Kevin McBride, supposedly along the same lines.

Squallege
Jan 7, 2006

No greater good, no just cause

Grimey Drawer
I like that after reading the book I don't look at the movie the same way I used to. It has more heart now.

Squallege fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Aug 15, 2014

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

Ensign_Ricky posted:

Well, it's not exactly the same footage. However, it's all from the same day of filming, and only exists like that because Tommy didn't want to leave anything on the cutting room floor.

Also because Juliette Danielle didn't have the stomach to do it twice.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

Also because Juliette Danielle didn't have the stomach to do it twice.

And because the crew would have murdered Tommy if he'd tried to film another sex scene.

Not out of frustration, to defend Juliette's honor.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
Imagine having to light, film, edit or... powder... Tommy's rear end. A second time.

got dat wmd
Apr 28, 2009
FYI, here's Tommy's building he owns in SF. Found it by searching for the pizza place Greg mentions in the book.

https://www.honestbuildings.com/buildings/434360/us/ca/san-francisco/555-beach-st

RaspberrySea
Nov 29, 2004

got dat wmd posted:

FYI, here's Tommy's building he owns in SF. Found it by searching for the pizza place Greg mentions in the book.

https://www.honestbuildings.com/buildings/434360/us/ca/san-francisco/555-beach-st

I looked it up on Google Maps. I don't know why, but the enormous poster of Tommy's face getting blurred out by Google's face recognition is hilarious to me.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

davidspackage posted:

Imagine having to light, film, edit or... powder... Tommy's rear end. A second time.

The sex scenes seemed like the most awkward things to film (after the dress humping scene). Also having Tommy hump the poor girl's belly button. Gah!

The Time Dissolver
Nov 7, 2012

Are you a good person?

MorgaineDax posted:

I looked it up on Google Maps. I don't know why, but the enormous poster of Tommy's face getting blurred out by Google's face recognition is hilarious to me.

Huh, one angle has the Street Fashions USA logo instead of the Room poster.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
You know, in light of this week's loss, I hope that The Disaster Artist doesn't have a scene where Dave Franco's Greg meets Robin Williams.

:smith:

SpitztheGreat
Jul 20, 2005
I'm half way through The Disaster Artist and it's really eye opening. When I watched The Room a couple of weeks ago I found it fun and really intriguing. Now that I'm reading the book I find myself becoming increasingly disturbed by Tommy. Last night I read through the car ride where he scares Greg all to hell and then the part where he admits to spying on the crew and recording all of his phone conversations. It's not funny anymore, this guy is an absolute lunatic- he's possessive, unstable, manipulative, and delusional, I'd say he even boarders on the line of deranged. That whole thing in the car when he was interrogating Greg was the last straw for me, he's not a likable kind of guy who's eccentric, he's a hosed up weirdo.

It makes me sad that this guy has somehow managed a career despite lacking any semblance of talent. He's unlikable, almost certainly involved in criminal activity, and did I mention that he's a loving lunatic? This guy doesn't deserve any of our money or any of our attention because it feeds his ego and rewards his poo poo behavior.

You'll never see me at one of these screenings and that's too bad because it would be a drat good time.

Gargamel Gibson
Apr 24, 2014
For some reason you're judging Tommy Wiseau by the same criteria as you would a human being. I think he's remarkably cool for an extraterrestrial mummy!

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



Or vampire space car.

But yeah, my one concern about Rogen/Franco taking over this movie is that they'll gloss over how dark and hosed up it actually is for "weird guy with accent" comedy.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

SpitztheGreat posted:

It makes me sad that this guy has somehow managed a career despite lacking any semblance of talent. He's unlikable, almost certainly involved in criminal activity, and did I mention that he's a loving lunatic? This guy doesn't deserve any of our money or any of our attention because it feeds his ego and rewards his poo poo behavior.

I think it's a bit generous to say that Tommy has a "career" out of this. I guess coasting on The Room for the past 11 years has kept him going, but other than that, he has like one 10-minute TV episode and a few YouTube videos to his acting resume.

Terrible Horse
Apr 27, 2004
:I

Chairman Capone posted:

I think it's a bit generous to say that Tommy has a "career" out of this. I guess coasting on The Room for the past 11 years has kept him going, but other than that, he has like one 10-minute TV episode and a few YouTube videos to his acting resume.

The most appalling thing about the book is that Tommy is a self-made millionaire/real estate mogul.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

weekly font posted:

But yeah, my one concern about Rogen/Franco taking over this movie is that they'll gloss over how dark and hosed up it actually is for "weird guy with accent" comedy.
I legitimately hope they keep the car scene in, if for no other reason that for the reactions of people who haven't read the book and are just there to laugh at The Room some more.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

SpitztheGreat posted:

It makes me sad that this guy has somehow managed a career despite lacking any semblance of talent. He's unlikable, almost certainly involved in criminal activity, and did I mention that he's a loving lunatic? This guy doesn't deserve any of our money or any of our attention because it feeds his ego and rewards his poo poo behavior.

The thing to remember here is that Tommy has to have some likeable qualities or Greg wouldn't have stuck by him for as long as he has. I stand by my belief that Tommy is likely bipolar, which explains his breakneck personality shifts, or has some other mental disorder as a result of his (admittedly, theoretical) life experiences.

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

weekly font posted:

Or vampire space car.

But yeah, my one concern about Rogen/Franco taking over this movie is that they'll gloss over how dark and hosed up it actually is for "weird guy with accent" comedy.

Given Franco's last passion project was Interior. Leather Bar I'd say he's not afraid to make a weird dark hosed up movie. See also: Spring Breakers.

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