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The traitor was Traitorman!
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There are definite hints as to the traitor in the game so far. Some are obvious, some not so much. In fact, the motivation of the traitor has been directly stated in dialogue...but not in the way that you're probably thinking of.
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Jan 2, 2016 08:47
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chitoryu12 posted:There are definite hints as to the traitor in the game so far. Some are obvious, some not so much. In fact, the motivation of the traitor has been directly stated in dialogue...but not in the way that you're probably thinking of. It's amazing what you catch on the second (or subsequent) playthrough. Although I could have sworn that the Spy vs Agent conversation would have happened already, but I guess that should be the next mission.
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Jan 2, 2016 09:36
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RealSovietBear posted:Does anyone have a video where you trigger the lasers? It's been so long that I don't remember, but going by some comments here, it's not that mundane? chitoryu12 posted:There are definite hints as to the traitor in the game so far. Some are obvious, some not so much. In fact, the motivation of the traitor has been directly stated in dialogue...but not in the way that you're probably thinking of. I mean, I remember some stuff about the whole mole deal but that's really from the sequel. e: Oh wait, I think I might get it. Was it something Bruno said? anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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Jan 2, 2016 09:49
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anilEhilated posted:Okay, now I'm interested. I know how the story goes, please do remember and divulge this when we get to the end. Or do a sufficiently cryptic hint. The agency has been experiencing setbacks even before Cate became a field agent (as seen in the first cutscenes) but it's practically spite the way it looms over her performance given the circumstances.
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Jan 2, 2016 13:42
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anilEhilated posted:e: Oh wait, I think I might get it. Was it something Bruno said? I think I know the line he means, and no. Alas it's impossible to give any more details without at least spoiling the people in the conversation. Get PMs and I can tell you which one!
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Jan 2, 2016 14:24
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Eh, I'll wait. I think I have a pretty good idea now.
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Jan 2, 2016 14:30
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Yeah, when we get to the reveal I'll say what the hints are.
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Jan 2, 2016 18:21
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Train riding hussies is the name of my band. An Ounce Of Hope, A Pound Of Despair Scene 1/Polsy Rescue Attempt Scene 1/Polsy
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Jan 2, 2016 20:46
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"Tickets please" 
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Jan 2, 2016 21:05
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Oh Smithy  In light of the revelations in this video, people may wish to re-read some of the early "frivolous" intelligence items... Loxbourne fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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Jan 2, 2016 21:17
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Aww, I was hoping that the confrontation between husband and wife had the conductor standing awkwardly beside them, trying to get their attention. Still, it is nice to see Smithy become less of a complete bell-end and more a jerk. Also, the dialogue in this game is surprisingly well-done. I wonder who wrote it, and if they worked in other games?
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Jan 2, 2016 21:43
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This game's dialogue is good enough to look forward to the all-cutscene clips.
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Jan 2, 2016 21:44
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Train Riding Hussies. Great band name.  [watches latest cutscene] Ok, after Unbreakable, I know what some of Cate's speech about a certain character's past portends. Not saying specifics, spoilers. Suggestion for NOLF 2 LP Title (if you do it): The Archer Shoots Again.
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Jan 2, 2016 23:24
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I love Mr. Jones. Pretty bogus that they give you the camera disablers only after the safe cracker mission.
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Jan 3, 2016 01:16
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Speedball posted:Pretty bogus that they give you the camera disablers only after the safe cracker mission. Equipment and weapon unlocks are global, so a second playthrough to pick up the gated intel items lets you really cut loose.
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Jan 3, 2016 01:48
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Hrm, belated, and the wrong way round, but the heads of UNITY do somewhat remind me of these similarly named chaps.
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Jan 3, 2016 03:21
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"Did you have the chicken or the fish?" reminds me of "Airplane!" But that movie came out in the 70s, not the 60s. Are they referring to a movie that "Airplane!" was spoofing?
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Jan 3, 2016 03:45
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Quiet Python posted:"Did you have the chicken or the fish?" reminds me of "Airplane!" But that movie came out in the 70s, not the 60s. Are they referring to a movie that "Airplane!" was spoofing? Airplane! was directly parodying Zero Hour, which came out in 1957. Many of Airplane!'s silliest lines actually came verbatim from that earlier movie, as well as the overarching food poisoning plot. So it's definitely possible that passenger's line was a reference to Zero Hour.
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Jan 3, 2016 04:24
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Loxbourne posted:In light of the revelations in this video, people may wish to re-read some of the early "frivolous" intelligence items...
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Jan 3, 2016 09:50
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Quiet Python posted:"Did you have the chicken or the fish?" reminds me of "Airplane!" But that movie came out in the 70s, not the 60s. Are they referring to a movie that "Airplane!" was spoofing? Ah yes, I remember now. I had the lasagna.
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Jan 3, 2016 13:44
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also Airplane was from 1980. If you like Airplane you really owe it to yourself to see Zero Hour just for how insane the comparison is. Like Polaron said, the exact same lines played for comedy in Airplane were said straight in ZH and it's just 
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Jan 3, 2016 22:42
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Psion posted:also Airplane was from 1980. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO90hdkeKrs This is pretty good for showing it off.
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Jan 3, 2016 23:19
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Speedball posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO90hdkeKrs That's amazing, Airplane is probably one of the best movies I've ever seen (RIP Leslie Nielsen  ) and I had no idea the entire thing was just another slant on some other movie's lines.
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Jan 3, 2016 23:46
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Using propeller noises because ZH took place on a prop plane is my favorite part. It's good on so many levels.
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Jan 4, 2016 00:43
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It's interesting to see spoof movies made around that time. Obviously, none are as good as ZAZ at their peak, but many of them, e.g. Superbus, Return of the Killer Tomatoes (which has a young George Clooney in it!), are surprisingly good. Or, at least surprisingly good in comparison to modern 'spoof' films.
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Jan 4, 2016 08:39
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To me the last good spoof movies were Hot Shots 1 and 2. I rewatched them last year or so and still found them really enjoyable because they didn't make the jokes and references the main thing and did try to tell a goofy story at the same time.
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Jan 4, 2016 08:54
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Cooked Auto posted:To me the last good spoof movies were Hot Shots 1 and 2. I rewatched them last year or so and still found them really enjoyable because they didn't make the jokes and references the main thing and did try to tell a goofy story at the same time. 
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Jan 4, 2016 10:34
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radintorov posted:we also had Hot Fuzz and that movie is amazing. In this case I honestly forgot about it. v v Even if I can agree it's good.
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Jan 4, 2016 11:28
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I actually saw the related Rambo movie after watching Hot Shots 2 and it was amazing.
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Jan 4, 2016 15:44
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It's weird because Airplane is one of my favorite movies but I literally never noticed the prop sounds with a jet engine before now. I'm personally a fan of Dracula: Dead And Loving It, since it hews surprisingly close to the source material. RIP Leslie Nielsen. Rescue Attempt Scene 2/Polsy
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Jan 4, 2016 17:50
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I think a commonality in many good spoof movies was the presence of Leslie Nielsen.
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Jan 4, 2016 17:53
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The saying about the banality of evil regarding the Holocaust the game mentions is, I think, the saying that goes something like "There are few acts of evil which can't be accomplished by a family man working a regular job," talking about how a lot of people complicit in the Holocaust weren't SS officers, weren't diehard Nazis, were just relatively normal people doing a day to day job and in so doing were helping operate and perpetuate an atrocity.
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Jan 4, 2016 18:35
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The subtitle of this book, about SS commander Adolf Eichmann on trial in Israel, is "The Banality of Evil". It came out in 1963. It's about how Eichmann was basically boring as hell, passionless, and followed orders. The trial made the entire Third Reich seem like it was full of guys like him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichmann_in_Jerusalem
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Jan 4, 2016 19:24
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Leslie Nielson was loving chilling when he played a psycho in Creepshow. I don't think the man got enough credit for being as awesome as an overall actor as he was. Back to the game: I love it when games let you hear conversations through floorboards. There's one other period stealth game that had a lot of overhearable conversations I liked, "XIII." In one level they linked into each other pretty noticibly... there were two guys in a snow level griping about their broken car, further on was a guy going back to check on them, further on were two more guys griping about the first two for holding them all up. XIII also had visual representations for sounds, so you'd see enemy footsteps through walls. VERY useful in a stealth game. EDIT: I wonder who the guy was who was being interrogated about Cate. Another UNITY spy? Hmmm. Don't think it was the commando that was on the train with us. Speedball fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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Jan 4, 2016 20:13
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J.theYellow posted:The subtitle of this book, about SS commander Adolf Eichmann on trial in Israel, is "The Banality of Evil". It came out in 1963. It's about how Eichmann was basically boring as hell, passionless, and followed orders. The trial made the entire Third Reich seem like it was full of guys like him. It's a bit off topic, to be sure, but the Beeb did a drama of the people who recorded the trial. When it came to the actual scenes of the trial itself, they used the video actually recorded at the time. It was one hell of a harrowing thing to see.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:01
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Speedball posted:Leslie Nielson was loving chilling when he played a psycho in Creepshow. I don't think the man got enough credit for being as awesome as an overall actor as he was. I've always liked Joss Whedon's mantra of 'hire your villains from comedy', the thinking being that comedy is harder than anything else, so if they can do that well, they can ace a dramatic feature. That saying was in the Serenity commentary track (whose villain was Chiwetel Ejiofor), and it's held up pretty well every time I've seen a good comedy actor play a baddie. And yeah, there's something about floorboard conversations that makes them feel even more personal than normal stealth game eavesdrops. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory actually has a conversation about floorboards ("Nightingales! It's called a nightingale floor...") that you can listen to from under the floorboards.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:32
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WFGuy posted:And yeah, there's something about floorboard conversations that makes them feel even more personal than normal stealth game eavesdrops. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory actually has a conversation about floorboards ("Nightingales! It's called a nightingale floor...") that you can listen to from under the floorboards. And then when you capture the guy who loved the anti-ninja floor he's so jazzed because he thinks it means ninjas are real that he weirds Sam the hell out.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:34
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WFGuy posted:I've always liked Joss Whedon's mantra of 'hire your villains from comedy', the thinking being that comedy is harder than anything else, so if they can do that well, they can ace a dramatic feature. That saying was in the Serenity commentary track (whose villain was Chiwetel Ejiofor), and it's held up pretty well every time I've seen a good comedy actor play a baddie. This is true. Anyone can play an emotionless psychopath by just resisting the urge to smile and laugh, and anyone can ham it up like Jonathan Pryce in Tomorrow Never Dies. Good comedy takes an understanding of timing and how to elicit responses, which makes for an excellent actor when it comes to drama.
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Speedball posted:EDIT: I wonder who the guy was who was being interrogated about Cate. Another UNITY spy? Hmmm. Don't think it was the commando that was on the train with us. Smithy's briefing said that when we got to here, we'd have to meet up with someone who would tell us how to get into the secret base. I think that was that guy. Note how our objectives changed immediately after hearing that conversation to "find a way into the secret base".
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