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Ham posted:Egyptian presidential election committee announces a 35% turnout so far. Is Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf now the Egyptian information minister?
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May 28, 2014 00:02
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I think Sisi is well into believing his own personality cult at this point (and in record time). They can't just make up the numbers because that would be hiding the truth! The truth that the people love him!
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May 28, 2014 00:23
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There's a new Frontline piece by PBS, "Syria: Arming the Rebels", that goes into the training and munitions received overseas by select rebel groups: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/syria-arming-the-rebels/
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May 28, 2014 11:41
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Sisi's reputation is really taking a beating. Not because of the low turnout, but because of the government and media's meltdown over it. Turnout today is even worse than it was yesterday apparently.
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May 28, 2014 11:42
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Ham posted:Sisi's reputation is really taking a beating. Not because of the low turnout, but because of the government and media's meltdown over it. My schadenfreude is at orgasmic levels, I am so proud that the vast majority of Egyptians didnt show up. they might be able to make alot of noise and propaganda over Sisi's supposed 'popularity', but when it came to the real deal the Egyptians knew what the game was and didn't take part in it. At this rate, Sisi's gonna get less overall number of votes than Morsi did in the first round of the 2012 vote,and thats with the whole state behind him hahaha.
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May 28, 2014 11:56
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Al-Saqr posted:My schadenfreude is at orgasmic levels, I am so proud that the vast majority of Egyptians didnt show up. they might be able to make alot of noise and propaganda over Sisi's supposed 'popularity', but when it came to the real deal the Egyptians knew what the game was and didn't take part in it. I doubt that. Morsi got about 5.5 million votes in the first round, and 13 million in the second. If a 35% (17.5 million) turnout is true, hes likely to match Morsi's second round numbers, if not beat them (depending on how much of the vote goes to Sabbahi/is void).
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May 28, 2014 12:03
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Egypt's Presidential Election Committee is now threatening to fine anyone who doesn't have an excuse for not voting approximately $70 USD.
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May 28, 2014 18:10
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suboptimal posted:Egypt's Presidential Election Committee is now threatening to fine anyone who doesn't have an excuse for not voting approximately $70 USD. Glorious, voting isn't actually mandatory in Egypt is it?
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May 28, 2014 18:30
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http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/11/sweden-refugee-policy-sets-high-standard-2013112485613526863.html Oh, a comment section! Al-jazeera is pretty nice, maybe this one will be different? quote:"Dumb blondes. They are going to be raped to death by these fleeing Syrian war criminals." Hmm, to death? Ugh, I can't stand rape. It's a horrible way to go! Still, seems a bit alarmist... quote:How do you explain the fact that Arabs are 5% of Sweden populations but responsible to 80% of the rapes ?" Wow that's really productive of them, I had no idea they made so much of our rape. No wonder our politicians are pushing other countries to accept our rape and import some.  Although I do not like rape, it's good that they get a well paying manufacturing job so soon after immigrating here  Thanks Al-Jazeera comment section, you've been real informative!
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May 28, 2014 18:36
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Demiurge4 posted:Glorious, voting isn't actually mandatory in Egypt is it? According to this article, it is, but it's never been enforced: quote:Prime Minister Ibrahim Mehleb said fining those who are eligible but fail to cast a vote in the presidential elections is a “law that is implemented,” responding to reporters’ questions on Tuesday, the second day of voting. Edit: Pimpmust posted:Why would you ever read the comments on any news story whatsoever? It's like the diaper for whatever slides out of the Internet's festering rear end. pantslesswithwolves fucked around with this message at 18:56 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 18:52
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My damaged brain takes some sort of amusement from reading comment sections. I don't know why. Sisi talk: I actually thought they'd manage a bigger turnout, if for nothing else how big the military is (lots of families getting a straight pay-check from that teat) and the iron grip on the media. Pretty impressive failure really.
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May 28, 2014 19:29
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I haven't paid too much attention to it, but apparently Assad's been GOTVing in Beirut and pissing off a lot of Lebanese.
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May 28, 2014 23:13
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I wouldn't read too much into the lack of turnout in Egypt as some sort of anti-coup statement by the general population, given both the coup and Sisi's popularity (at least among the urban populace). I think rather its more that since his victory is a foregone conclusion, it's having a suppressive effect on turnout. He'll win anyway, so why bother standing in line to cast a meaningless ballot?
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May 29, 2014 00:12
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Vernii posted:I wouldn't read too much into the lack of turnout in Egypt as some sort of anti-coup statement by the general population, given both the coup and Sisi's popularity (at least among the urban populace). You're basically saying "this can't be true, because it isn't true!" here. Even for the Egyptian government, it's very hard to get an accurate assessment of Sisi's popularity in Egypt's current delirious state. This is one of the most strong signs that his support might not be all that its worked up to be. This is why the establishment is having a meltdown.
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May 29, 2014 04:53
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Pardon me, Goons of Upper and Lower Aegyptus, I'm wondering how Sabbahi's campaign/media presence/reputation/popular opinion went? I know it's kinda futile because he never stood a chance, but how did he dealt with that farcical position he was stuck in? Good, bad, ugly?
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May 29, 2014 10:07
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ecureuilmatrix posted:Pardon me, Goons of Upper and Lower Aegyptus, I'm wondering how Sabbahi's campaign/media presence/reputation/popular opinion went? Hamdeen Sabbahi is the type of person whos pride never allows him to not take any opportunity to run for office, but at the same time he never goes all the way and doesnt do or say whatever is needed to be done to actually win those races. he has all the makings of a success story, but none of the competence and savvy he needs to make an impact. But he was especially fooling himself if he thought he was going to win this race, this entire presidential race was set up to be a '99%' deal, Even if he won, he would have lost from fraud and forgery, and he hurt his credibility by not making a clear stand from the first moment, his pride got the better of him. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 10:27 on May 29, 2014 |
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May 29, 2014 10:25
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ecureuilmatrix posted:Pardon me, Goons of Upper and Lower Aegyptus, I'm wondering how Sabbahi's campaign/media presence/reputation/popular opinion went? Sabbahi's campaign was widely ridiculed. He's popularly known as "the stand-in". Egyptian media lauded him for his courage in running when he knew he had no chance, theorizing that he's doing it to help Sisi's legitimacy. His campaign was fairly low-key, with some limited public appearances and zero support from private media. His aides did pretty well in debates with Sisi's aides, but that was really it. On the other hand, Sisi had zero public appearances but dominated the TV with interviews, meetings with delegates from different groups in Egypt and huge banners on nearly every major street in Cairo labeling him "Candidate #1 - Long live Egypt!" Somehow, Sabbahi's campaign was publicly confident of victory, even at the end of the second day of voting. So he dealt with it well, I guess. Ham fucked around with this message at 11:11 on May 29, 2014 |
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May 29, 2014 11:05
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How did his aides generally handle debates with Sisi aides? I mean what is there to debate? It seems like you would have to tiptoe around several elephants in the room--the fact that democracy is dead, for example.
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May 29, 2014 16:30
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Thanks for the perspectives!
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May 29, 2014 16:58
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There is reports that Americans (possibly radicalized by brown Moses) has committed a suicide bombing on an Arab restaurant full of "infidels". How Ironic. quote:Opposition forces said he was a U.S. citizen who called himself Abu Hurayra al-Amriki. The name al-Amriki means "the American." http://www.voanews.com/content/american-suicide-bomber-linked-to-al-qaida-in-syria/1926064.html Now I know that brown Moses blog had posts and radicalized a European to jihad. I just wonder if this might be another casualty of brown Mose's stay at home blogging. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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May 31, 2014 23:45
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BabyChoom posted:
 Brown Moses, more like Shadow Moses.
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May 31, 2014 23:51
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BabyChoom posted:Now I know that brown Moses blog had posts and radicalized a European to jihad. What was his name?  You don't get radicalized into sympathizing with takfiri ideology because of someone reporting details of attacks and weapons.
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Jun 1, 2014 00:05
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First Brown Moses supports the devilish Amerikkkan Empire, now he's supporting Noble Freedom Fighters Agaisnt The West? Geez, what a flip flopper!
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Jun 1, 2014 00:19
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Nckdictator posted:First Brown Moses supports the devilish Amerikkkan Empire, now he's supporting Noble Freedom Fighters Agaisnt The West? Geez, what a flip flopper! Huh? The heart-eating terrorists in Syria are Zionist-CIA-Saudi-Turkish-French-British mercenaries (and some true believing locals tricked by CIA/MOSSAD psyops propaganda) to destroy the mighty bastion of anti-West and anti-Iϟϟrahell resistance axis that is the Syrian Arab Republic. They just want to dismantle the anti-Imperialist alliance of Syria (headed by greatest hero of the Palestinian people Bashar al-Assad), Hizballah, and Iran to halt their imminent liberation of Palestine. Just like how they also funded the NATO ZOG (trained in Poland-Lithuania) mercenaries in Ukraine to overthrow the democratically elected Yanukovich government (with the help of the FBI false flag sniper attack) so they could install the neo-Nazi junta in Kyiv that's currently carrying out a genocide in Novorussia. This was of course all just another Zionist operation to get Ukrainian Jews to leave the Banderist state for the Zionist Entity, by the way. Pfft, I bet you get your "news" from brainwashing US corporate media propaganda and lies 
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Jun 1, 2014 00:33
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Volkerball posted:What was his name? Brown Moses is anti-Assad. This guy was a jihadist. There are jihadists in the anti-Assad movement. Fail to see the overwhelming evidence, sheeple? 
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Jun 1, 2014 00:34
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This was the first person from a foreign country that brown moses helped radicialize http://brown-moses.blogspot.se/2013/11/new-key-evidence-in-understanding.html The thread that showed that he died was on http://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/1vpa5x/uanonymousnojk_has_migrated_to_syria/ in which they go more in debt then anything else. The problem was not that Brown Moses encouraged him. The problem was that after showing all those clips and partial propaganda, he did not discourage him to fight in a CIVIL WAR that he had no business with. Now I'm not saying that it was 100% brown moses fault in encouraging a lunatic to go to jihad. All I'm saying is that he does bare responsibility (however little it may be) for sending young men with no military training to their death in Syria. Perhaps if he wasn't biased against Assad and tried to show both sides of the conflict ( there is a lot of reporting done by legitimate journalists who aren't part of the twitter news network) then he would seem more credible. An example is that while brown moses was going on and on about barrel bombs with chlorine, he never mentioned that the rebels also used chemical weapons like white phosphorus. Withholding information does not make you an honest broker when you do that.
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Jun 1, 2014 01:16
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BabyChoom posted:There is reports that Americans (possibly radicalized by brown Moses) has committed a suicide bombing on an Arab restaurant full of "infidels". Permaban Brown Moses; Baby Choom for Moderator For Life for D&D.
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Jun 1, 2014 01:19
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SedanChair posted:
Brown Mossad
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Jun 1, 2014 01:19
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BabyChoom posted:This was the first person from a foreign country that brown moses helped radicialize http://brown-moses.blogspot.se/2013/11/new-key-evidence-in-understanding.html Yeah, this is the post that lead me to put Babychoom on ignore. Never thought I'd use the feature until today.
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Jun 1, 2014 01:24
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BabyChoom posted:
I agree, lets lock up everyone who reported on Abu Gharib since they didn't discourage lunatic jihadists to go fight in a civil war they had no business with.
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Jun 1, 2014 01:26
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BabyChoom posted:This was the first person from a foreign country that brown moses helped radicialize http://brown-moses.blogspot.se/2013/11/new-key-evidence-in-understanding.html So you're all for Obama droning Brown Moses ala Anwar al-Awlaki, then?
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Jun 1, 2014 01:32
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RandomPauI posted:Yeah, this is the post that lead me to put Babychoom on ignore. Never thought I'd use the feature until today. Every single post he makes should be in the goldmine. Help I've watched too much coverage on this new fangled gadget and now I have urges to destroy it all.
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Jun 1, 2014 01:49
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What I'm trying to say that I have no problem with documenting the war. There are other outlets then twitter news network and the youtube propaganda outlets set up by the militia to recruit people who have emotionally involved themselves by showing videos of huge explosions of wasteland and claiming a victory. Brown Moses has even admitted that the rebels are using chemical weapons after trying to dodge the question for 5-6 posts. This does not lend to the truth and an impartial accounting of the history of events. It is just rah rah cheer leading that can influence people to go to a full fledged civil war to just get blown to bits. Also, in Brown Moses blog he does not try to silence the crazies. The people who are actually radicalizing to go there. Those comments are simply ignored. If you are trying to get the "truth" out there then you have to have a tiny bit of control on your blog. You also have to use other sources that aren't social media. If you must then you should also use the other side as well as reporters who are in contact with both sides. I understand Assad is a dickhead. The thing is that Brown Moses, now that he has the spotlight, isn't lying. It's just that he avoids telling the whole truth and that has an affect on wannabe jihadists on whether to go to a foreign nation and die or stay home.
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Jun 1, 2014 02:01
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I get it: you went to Syria based on Brown Moses's subliminal messages, didn't you?
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Jun 1, 2014 02:14
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Guys mental illness isn't really funny.
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Jun 1, 2014 02:26
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ThirdPartyView posted:I get it: you went to Syria based on Brown Moses's subliminal messages, didn't you?  
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Jun 1, 2014 02:28
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Posting from my iPad in Syria, where's the Brown Moses Battalion at?
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Jun 1, 2014 02:28
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There's no way Choom is really that retarded he's obviously a troll.
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Jun 1, 2014 02:53
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It's the mideast thread. Do you really have to wonder?
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BabyChoom posted:What I'm trying to say that I have no problem with documenting the war. There are other outlets then twitter news network and the youtube propaganda outlets set up by the militia to recruit people who have emotionally involved themselves by showing videos of huge explosions of wasteland and claiming a victory. The only way to portray the war that isn't "cheerleading" is by handwaving away the people caught up in the middle of the conflict as jihadist supporters, and everyone who is fighting against Assad as a terrorist. By over-simplifying the conflict as nothing but bad people fighting bad people, where innocent people hang out and twiddle their thumbs until they are killed in airstrikes or executed by jihadists, and the millions upon millions of people who have fled the country don't have opinions or thoughts of their own, but are just standing by in The rate at which people are imprisoned on flimsy pretense and thrown into torture camps, then tossed in mass graves, and the incessant bombing on residential areas with conventional and chemical weapons, kills more and destroys more lives than any bumfuck jihadists could ever hope to. They've spent years trying to overrun a few thousand Kurds in the north, and they can't even pull that off, but of course they're propped by governments all around the world and are unanimously supported in rebel-held Syria to the point that they completely dominate the narrative in American news.  You sit there and preach about propaganda, but you eat up all the desperate clinging to half truths and small sample sized atrocities committed by ISIS and JaN your sources (which you've never posted except for a reddit comments section just now) are spewing without even realizing how conveniently it all fits in with the Russian/Syrian narrative that they've been pushing since before jihadists even started flowing in from Iraq. RT and SANA don't have anywhere near the resources as a bunch of bakers tweeting at each other carrying ziploc bags as ammo pouches. Lol that Brown Moses is somehow responsible for people watching a conflict where a madman massacres so many people indiscriminately just to maintain control of the country, while so many countries turn their back that the victims have to turn to loving al qaeda for help, and feeling basic human empathy and a desire to do something. Not that anyone signing up with ISIS or JaN gives a poo poo about any of that stuff anyways. You're seriously dumb as gently caress dude. I wish you were a troll just because it's a sad thought realizing that you have to live every day with yourself.
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