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Ugrok posted:Oval's "Do while" is one of my favourite tracks ever. Don't know if it would fit in the "experimental" spectrum. It's just repetitive and hypnotic noises made with typewriters and strange things. It grabs you and never lets go.
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Mike_V posted:That came out a little bit back didn't it? Anyways, I don't like it as much as Desert Strike or Genre Specific Xperience, but it's still good enough. A bunch of other people are doing 'sinogrime' a lot better, though. I really don't think going into Asiatisch with a grime mindset is really the right thing to do. Despite what the press release (it was really bad at articulating what it was trying to say) may have lead you to believe, Asiatisch is more about the idea of taking Chinese culture and the filtering, fetishising, and boiling down to a core things that are seen as uniquely eastern (secret mysticism and gongs and dragons) then putting it through a western mindset that we get from our media experience (which is really where most western ideas of China comes from.) Wiley and Kode9 and the rest of the dudes who did sinogrime were making music that they got from tv/movies like Rush Hour and stereotypes in cartoons. I really do not get the sense that they were going out of their way to make a false representation of China, because its just poo poo they knew that had a unique sound that they wanted to play with for a bit. Asiatisch is a homage to sinogrime in the same way that a lot of vaporwave is a homage to corporate and elevator music. Its looking at how culture is corrupted into industry, watered down to odd components and made safe for consumption. Its looking at how things like saturday morning cartoons (pay attention to the background music especially) teach us all we know about eastern culture even if its false. And then puking it all back up to turn industry back into some sort of culture. Take the vocal samples used in a couple of the tracks. They are spoken in a very clear (disregarding manipulation via effects), cold and clinical manner used by someone teaching a language or a tv anchor would use. Its something you would hear when your flipping around on tv and you stumble up a chinese news station. That said Asiatisch is pretty alright overall but i still think this is really good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfUsRikQsS8
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first watch this, if it doesn't start at the right time reload the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pTRxtQ3ndk&t=1519s https://soundcloud.com/illegalknife/valley-of-yr-minds-eye-cornerofyrmindseyermx did it months ago, like november it should use so many more parts but i had limits at the time. could redo it when i have time someday sea of losers fucked around with this message at 07:42 on May 1, 2014 |
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Stravinsky posted:Asiatisch is a homage to sinogrime in the same way that a lot of vaporwave is a homage to corporate and elevator music. here's an interview about asiatisch and yr pretty much on-point: http://www.rookiemag.com/2014/04/fatima-al-qadiri/
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im really pleased to see those mind's eye vids popping up in here and in general because i had the VHS's as a young man and dont remember where we got them or what happened to them
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stay depressed posted:im really pleased to see those mind's eye vids popping up in here and in general because i had the VHS's as a young man and dont remember where we got them or what happened to them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT-VbFcck6A
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this. If you understand the lonely painted worlds of the 90s, full of jesters and crude CGI chessboards then you'll understand what its all about
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found some more weblabels if you guys want 'em. check this release on Black Havana, some straight-up witch hxvse here: http://blackhavana.com/album/nude warning: artwork is NSFW want less brutal witch-house, more gentle? http://blackhavana.com/album/whispers also there's post-religion https://post-religion.bandcamp.com and equilateral records: http://equilateral-music.bandcamp.com/ sea of losers fucked around with this message at 16:20 on May 10, 2014 |
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Have any of you guys heard either of the Less Lethal comps from ALKU. I haven't but it seems very in line with the whole "distro" idea that Adam Harper wrote about. "In the modern military context, a number of renowned episodes, purportedly connect sound based less lethal techniques to subliminal strategies – all of them also unproven to date. Military experts in recent times may have often failed [3], but for thousands of years, humanity has been aware of the power of sound and music, both at a physiological and psychological level. Examples include mantra recitation in Eastern post Vedic religions, word painting techniques in Western music (from plainchant to modern pop music), the tritone interval known in the Western world as "diabolus in musica", and so forth" -from the press release I'd like to hear it, but haven't heard any samples and I'm not even sure I could solve the code they mail in order to download the music
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I thought I was the only one: http://www.dummymag.com/features/oneohtrix-point-never-gaga-remixing-reality
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You guys read Spencer Clark's video recommendations? http://adhoc.fm/post/spencer-clark/ for example.. "7. DARK FORCES THIS MOVIE IS STRAIGHT PRO TRICKSTER. A CLOWN ENTERS A KID'S LIFE AND CURES HIM OF CANCER AND GETS DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF SOME DARK POLITICAL STUFF. HE STRAIGHT UP DRESSES LIEK THE SICKEST JESTER OF ALL TIME AND GETS FLAT. " Glad to see he's still heavy on that hynagogic tip
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octagonoctopus posted:You guys read Spencer Clark's video recommendations? oh MAN i'm grabbin some
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octagonoctopus posted:You guys read Spencer Clark's video recommendations? This is so good I love Spencer Clark
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o.m. 94 posted:This is so good I love Spencer Clark bamboo for two is the most awesome quirky ambient  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FStUTZGN0Q wa, wa wa eeeYOU sea of losers fucked around with this message at 15:12 on May 6, 2014 |
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Great ! Here is one cool website : http://seaquence.org/z34t
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Article on TMT about, what else, pop music http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/pop-non-pop-after-the-conceptual-turn?page=2 Ferraro, Lopatin, and Blunt on page 3 Edit:probably nothing in this article you don't already know On the plus side, Adam Harper is back with a new article about..not really sure, it's better though. http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ octagonoctopus fucked around with this message at 23:50 on May 8, 2014 |
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I love all this poo poo... Anybody else like Sean Mccann? His Waterside Gala project is especially wonderful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXpxDteHijk
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Yeah he's a bit of a gifted multi-instrumentalist, ranging from the psychedelic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLwhDITGEjw To more traditional forms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw7JAFC8W-8
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Epileper posted:found some more weblabels if you guys want 'em. check this release on Black Havana, some straight-up witch hxvse here: and equilateral records: http://equilateral-music.bandcamp.com/ more witch house here too but not all witch house, just 4 artists from chile atm, here's a nice EP to start with, actually chill instrumental trap, think yung lean-style beats  http://equilateral-music.bandcamp.com/album/eqcl36-arizona also some "industrial rave swaggrotech" http://equilateral-music.bandcamp.com/album/eqcl046-the-deciever sea of losers fucked around with this message at 19:01 on May 10, 2014 |
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So I'm doing some theatre and I need the speech synthesiser found here in DIAMOND BLACK HEARTED BOY and elsewhere in Dean Blunt. What is it? Is it free? Where can I get it? By the way DIAMOND BLACK HEARTED BOY is cool and you should all listen to him, like here in his EP. My Mum told me Trout Mask Replica was a good album, and it is. This album Artaud (1973) is cool too, and so is Tonite Tonite by Raw Thrills, which reminds me of UK Squeeze. What do you all think of the Ariel Pink-Raw Thrills-The Skaters '50s-'60s-'80s pop revival thing? http://youtu.be/yrjKcH2wfok
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i think that's the stock mac OSX voice synthesizer, go into preferences and look around for it. if yr not on osx.. idk then also that's a cool record there
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http://plug.dj/nightmares-in-the-witch-house/ witch house DJ session happening right now, only 3 people in the room (lol right), i'm in edit: well, was. sea of losers fucked around with this message at 20:23 on May 13, 2014 |
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OK everyone I have your homework assignment please read this http://www.continentcontinent.cc/index.php/continent/article/view/91 Especially the part on nostalgia. thoughts by next week
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octagonoctopus posted:You guys read Spencer Clark's video recommendations? When i saw monopoly child star searchers years ago Spencer had a vhs copy of that 90s yeti kids movie on the merch table and we talked about Gremlins 2 for a while. This interview is awesome. Love Hellraiser II.
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I was just thinking back to games I played as a kid in the 90s and thought of Millennium Auction. This, along with The Dig, really influenced my aesthetic preferences I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ6MQcoC_nI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMHbZ7Igey4 It's sort of insane to think that this mix of classicism, modernism, and postmodernism all in the weird, fixed-perspective, texture-less 3D-modeled world of a multinational art auction house was marketed (at least in part) to kids, since I believe I bought it from one of those Scholastic book mini-catalogs. Also, the awareness of the economic and social perils presented by certain components of globalization/neoliberalism. The alternative history created is particularly wild. Mike_V fucked around with this message at 03:14 on May 21, 2014 |
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That's brutal. Good find
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o.m. 94 posted:OK everyone I have your homework assignment please read this Alright so that article was a little over my head but I wanna hear your thoughts.. So what I'm getting is that James Ferraro creates hyper real worlds through manipulation of signs, i.e. different sounds that are somehow associated with certain qualities. Because everything is a simulacrum of a simulacrum, nostalgia can be based off something that never actually happened. The obvious example of this would be something like night dolls with hairspray, which honestly does make me feel transported to a different reality , in this case a simulation of the 1980s imagined through a combination of signs that I associate with the music. But its a hyperreal version, like a psychedelic experience of the 80s conjured through media exposure, memories, etc. There's more to that record obviously, but it's one of my favorites because it seems to create another reality more than anything else I've heard. On the other hand, you have Oneohtrix Point Never, who also is a master of making music to soundtrack other realities. I think his music is even more heavily psychedelic at times, because of the fractal simulacra of simulacra, especially on R+7, where everything seems to fit into one general feeling, but when taken seperatly lights up a completely different association area in the brain. Am I on the right track? Any development of that youtube video/do you have a channel already?
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I think you should investigate your terms. Hyperreality is, crudely, what you get if you're unable to distinguish reality from a simulated reality. Perhaps the best example of this is Legowelt's Franz Falkenhaus release I talked about on page 2. The whole thing came together as a C64 game 'Trident Crisis' complete with packaging, manual and tape format as if the game and recording was a legitimate release from the late 80s, not a fabrication of which there is one copy from 2008. Likewise the Shadow Horizon soundtrack is so utterly convincing I spent a good hour trying to find the film it was made for (which never existed). I cannot, because I am not well read enough, place these things on the Order of Simulacra so all I can say is that the music of these artists sit somewhere in this order. I think OPNs 'Russian Mind' is particularly illuminating: 1. Science fiction films are a simulation of reality 2. Library tape music is unique in that it is not made for any known film, it simulates the act of scoring for a film 3. OPN makes an album whos art, music and track listing deliberately simulates a science fiction library music recording 4. This recording utilises musical timbres and tropes of 70s library and synthesiser music, even going as far to simulate poor fidelity 5. Yet this music has a quality and compositional structure that could only be possible today So I don't know how deep we are but we've absolutely nowhere near anything resembling a simple reflection of reality. People will make flippant comments like 'meh, I'll stick with tangerine dream' and it pains me how much the whole thing is soaring over their heads. These shmucks have fallen prey to the simulacrum and they cannot distinguish TGs order of simulation with a much deeper one, which is raising questions about real and simulated memories and authenticity in a way Tangerine Dreams baroque synth excursions could not begin to imagine I am totally abusing Baudrillard now but whatevs you get the idea o.m. 94 fucked around with this message at 08:08 on May 28, 2014 |
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Don't worry, I have been abusing Baudrillard on a weekly basis for like two months for assignments and exams on politics and neoliberalism. Because postmodernism is rad as gently caress and can find good application in many fields and school of thought. If Baudrillard read most of what I have written in the past three months on postmodern thought he would probably cry. I would say you have created a good summary of the process. I attempted to type up an essay indicating pretty much the same points, to dissatisfaction. Regardless, my thoughts were the same. Incidentally, revision group discussion was really funny for me, because I would tell people what I was revising and they would just look at me with this scared expression, and just ask me what the gently caress I was talking about and if they were supposed to know it. (they weren't) I really don't like how for the purposes of my course though that my lecturers reduce postmodernism down to just social constructivism. Most people think is where the field of thought ends. It is really smart, and I really appreciate the philosophy behind the production of their music. I will probs be writing an article on Lopatin soon for my uni newspaper, specifically on the postmodern philosophy and stylings to be found in his work. I look forward to typing it, although I can guarantee that I will be extremely unhappy with whatever I come to produce. I am never happy with my own writing. Another Person fucked around with this message at 10:31 on May 28, 2014 |
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In my mind music like Ferraro's (at least on Far Side Virtual) is hyperreal in the sense that it is mimetic of a music that is itself a poor imitation of 'real' music , so it is twice removed from reality (or multiple times more if you want to get all Platonic about it). I.e. the music Far Side Virtual pastiches is itself an imitation of actual music, in that it still features guitar, piano, drums etc but there is something 'off' about it. It's not music that organically exists for people to listen to, dance to, gently caress to or whatever; instead it's the soundtrack to capital: mall muzak, music from financial services commercial, obsolete video games and so on. It's music that doesn't exist for a musical purpose, and this is the sense in which it is hyperreal: it is not music and yet it is, it's not real but functions as if it is. So Ferraro takes all this music that doesn't exist as 'real music' and attempts to reassert its musicality (its use value over its exchange value, even). He doesn't really pull it off (but the failure is intentional): the music still sounds fake, like an aural uncanny valley. The response of the listener is 'this isn't music to just sit and listen to, so why is this artist asking me to do so?' Though I suppose, in a way, isn't all music featuring MIDI inherently hyperreal? Answers Me fucked around with this message at 11:13 on May 29, 2014 |
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Well, first of all let's be clear: MIDI itself is just a data protocol. MIDI can be used to trigger anything, potentially even a real instrument. When we think of MIDI, we're thinking about the poor-quality sample banks that are typically used in conjunction with it, which itself is a sliding scale. MIDI isn't inherently hyperreal, and even if you can create an incredibly convincing, quality samplebank with a production method that makes the difference between a real instrument and its artificial replica indistinguishable, that isn't necessarily hyperreal either. Creating, however, a MIDI samplebank of real instruments but then distorting their properties to create an instrument that DOESN'T exist as an acoustic or real-world sound source? Now that's fuckin hyperreal. There are an arbitrarily infinite number of layers: 1. Original instrument, played live (Real?) 2. Original instrument, in a recording, played back 3. Sample of original instrument (triggered by a MIDI compostion), in a recording (Virtual?) 4. Sample of original instrument spectrally modified to make a sound that the original instrument can't produce in reality (Hyperreal?) Here's an example of 4, listen to 2:45 onwards, particularly the rising voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vhnMkcK5yo You've got MIDI-powered human voice samples, but they are being stretched and elasticated in the time and frequency domain in impossible ways. They are, recognised as human voices by the brain, but their connection to a real human voice is 4 times removed. The problem that I have with this is that I'm not sure where totally artificial (synthesized sounds) fit into this. Do synthesized sounds immediately hop to the arena of the hyper-real by virtue of them being acoustically impossible? Or is it a matter of making a value judgement based on their proximity to some real, acoustic sound source? You can synthesize something that sounds like a timpani using a bank of oscillators and filters, but does this make it different from a sample of a real timpani that's been modified? Is there really a criterion at all? After all, is it possible that even a synthesized sound, which must obey the laws of physics in order to be reproduced by a speaker, have a real-world analogue? This might be actually easy to justify - I can represent an amplitude change between +1 and -1 on a computer as a discrete step - something that would be impossible physically. Yet, to actually HEAR this sound I require a speaker horn to move; and that cannot travel instantaneously. So even "impossible" constructions in the digital realm are not heard with 100% fidelity, but rather an imperceptibly different recreation based on the limitations of rarification and contraction of sound waves. Ergo it follows that there must be some way to generate the same sonic energy acoustically, and no "impossible" sound is actually impossible. The true "virtual" music is then music that can exist on paper, in a platonic realm of discrete sample steps, but can never be heard. o.m. 94 fucked around with this message at 13:41 on May 29, 2014 |
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At the very least we can say that these artists knowingly, gleefully dive into these layers of simulation as has not been done before and this is the basis of an apology of their music compared to artists from before who share similar stylistic and compositional tendencies.
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So this new song from the PC Music camp is completely bonkers http://wannabe.pcmusic.info/ One weird thing I've noticed after listening to vaporwave or synth music a la OPN, is that when I actually hear the "real" music that is being simulated (sorry, I'm sure I'm still mixing terms up) like the soundtrack to an 80's sci-fi movie or corporate training video muzak, I hear it differently, like I somehow appreciate it more. So maybe this song and the rest of PC Music's output (which is uniformly excellent) is doing something similar for mainstream "top 40" pop songs? I don't know, but if you want to hear more like that I'd recommend checking out the mix that A.G. Cook, who I believe is kind of at the head of the label, made for DIS magazine. http://dismagazine.com/disco/mixes/51799/a-g-cook-personal-computer-music/
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Does anyone know if the silica gel mixtape is still available anywhere? All the original links from when it was released seem to be dead.
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A human heart posted:Does anyone know if the silica gel mixtape is still available anywhere? All the original links from when it was released seem to be dead. Soulseek. Or PM. It was a free release.
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A human heart posted:Does anyone know if the silica gel mixtape is still available anywhere? All the original links from when it was released seem to be dead. Here is a temporary link: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2688057/Silica%20Gel.rar
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Lord Krangdar posted:Here is a temporary link: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2688057/Silica%20Gel.rar Awesome, thanks.
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