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Yes, I realize that the 'umobtanium' issue seems to have been well covered.So far as I can tell, the general consensus is that it comes from the science field. That is probably true, but I had never heard it used that way. To me unobtanium was what made something inexplicably expensive. See, "Must be gold plated, lol." So every time they said unobtainium it sounded like they were saying, "gold plated horse poo poo" I have also noticed that most of the movies in this thread have been based in action or scifi. I would like to submit nearly every romantic movie. Almost every time, the whole plot revolves around something that no one in real life would do. For example, serendipitous, I think that's the name. I may be remembering this wrong, but the woman decideds that she has met the man of her dreams. So she says, "Goodbye, if it was meant to be, we will meet again." In real life, they would have never met again. Then, I think she does it again? This doesn't even begin to cover the restraining order causing behavior that some times crops up in these movies.
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Nearly every problem with Avatar can be traced back to the fact that it was so expensive to make, the story had to be marketed to hell and dumbed down to the lowest common denominator in order to succeed financially. From what I understand of Cameron's original story concept, nearly every major flaw was a result of elements being overly simplified or completly removed. Examples I can remember off the top of my head; -Unobtanium was explained as a nickname started as a joke by the scientists that caught on. -It was originally all in the floating mountains, and what caused the mountains to float. The only reason the company was messing with the native cat people was because it would be cheaper to have them mine it than flying in their own workers or using Avatars. -Unobtanium was so valuable because it was a major component of keeping humanity alive. Earth was overcrowded and nearly devoid of natural resources. Without the technology powered by the Unobtainium, it was more or less doomed. -The "planet mind control" at the end of the movie was originally the status quo. Pandora was so dangerous partly because every living organism on the planet wanted to harm the humans trying to mine it. Granted, this doesn't excuse the problems in the movie that we got...
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Sep 20, 2011 19:56
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Elleape posted:I don't think I've seen this one posted yet. In generally every movie where it shows a car/truck slowing down or stopping the brakes always squeal. Doesn't seem to matter how old or new the vehicle is... Or in movies where the cars just won't start, even if they're new. That always bugs me because it's such a cheap way to create tension 
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Sep 20, 2011 20:25
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Sticking with 50 First Dates, I thought the movie did a pretty good job addressing the concerns the characters had with all the things you're talking about. It was already established prior to the tape that occasionally she had "bad days" where she realized something was wrong and they would explain it to her. As far as waking up with her period, I feel like unless it had only ended 2 days prior, any woman might wake up with it and go "that's weird, I shouldn't have it now, but it's not something I should really worry about." Also, I feel like the "magic" of the movie was that she had somehow subconsciously internalized Adam Sandler and that she was already kind of special/strong enough that she could handle all the things that came with waking to the realization. Further, if she was able to internalize Adam Sandler via her love for him ("I don't know you but I dream about you,") then isn't it possible that the same could be said for her kids? Maybe when she dreams, she's reliving the days she's had with them. They should've given her piracetam. 
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Sep 20, 2011 22:23
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Memento last night brought it to my attention. But loads of movies do this one. The lead goes into a bar, walks right up to the bartender and says, "I'll have a beer." I've never seen anyone order a "beer" when they're in a bar. Even if they're cheap and drink Pabst they go up and ask for a Pabst, or they ask for pilsner, lager, something. Maybe all movie bars serve Beer brand beer 
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Sep 20, 2011 22:41
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Razorwired posted:Memento last night brought it to my attention. But loads of movies do this one. I was actually thinking the same thing watching a movie last night. They were in Argentina so they said it in spanish, but still, it's not like there is one beer at a bar. It's no different than someone saying "I'll have a soda." at a restaurant.
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Sep 20, 2011 22:44
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Razorwired posted:Memento last night brought it to my attention. But loads of movies do this one. I've had this happen in real life. I was with a group of friends at a restaurant, and one of them ordered a "beer". I'm not really sure how it worked, but the waitress understood, and my friend got his beer. I forgot what brand it ended up being though. The picture you posted though remained me of another irritating thing in movies, product placement. It was kind of refreshing when I watched an old episode of "Roseanne" and they had plain white can labelled "SODA" sitting on the dining room table.
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Sep 21, 2011 00:53
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This is weird. I don't live in the US, which is definitely a huge factor, but I usually order "beer". There is always an unwritten understanding as to which of the available brands is implied to be the default one, so I generally get what I want.
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Sep 21, 2011 01:15
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Having worked in many bars, the second someone orders "a beer" you card them.
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Sep 21, 2011 01:16
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jet sanchEz posted:Having worked in many bars, the second someone orders "a beer" you card them. Unfortunately in some places like here in Switzerland (well, Vaud anyway) you tend to only have one or two options (Cardinal or Feldschlösschen) both of which are owned by the same company and so are basically the same, yay for artificial competition. Asking for 'a beer' will get you one of those but if you care you can ask them for the selection to see if they have something else. But yeah, I kinda miss the old generic poo poo everywhere rather than the extended shot of an iPhone or glistening can of whatever that we get now. Doesn't usually make a big difference but still.
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Sep 21, 2011 01:25
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I hate to go back to Avatar again, but another thing that bugged the poo poo out of me was how they explained why they had to knock down the tree. From memory, the deposit under the tree was 'the best one within 200 clicks'. 200 clicks is 200km. As far as geological surveying goes, it's not very far either, considering you've just travelled through loving space to get there.
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Sep 21, 2011 01:29
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I've heard stories from my father about being able to purchase those cans of beer, if I remember correctly, from military stores. Basically take the entire store scene from Repo Man and that's what you have. Generic white labels that just have Potato Chips or Beer printed on them. Take that with a grain of salt, but it wouldn't surprise me. (This is in Monterey, California by the way, DLI is right down the street. I guess I could ask some folks that went there)
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Sep 21, 2011 01:30
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I always assumed that just asking for a beer without being specific just resulted in you getting what happened to be on tap. I've yet to go to a proper bar, though, so I can't say for sure.
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Sep 21, 2011 01:35
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DrCornelius posted:I've heard stories from my father about being able to purchase those cans of beer, if I remember correctly, from military stores. Basically take the entire store scene from Repo Man and that's what you have. Generic white labels that just have Potato Chips or Beer printed on them. Take that with a grain of salt, but it wouldn't surprise me. (This is in Monterey, California by the way, DLI is right down the street. I guess I could ask some folks that went there) That's what generic food used to look like, before chains started making their own store brands ("Dr. Thunder" and so on).
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Sep 21, 2011 01:37
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NLJP posted:But yeah, I kinda miss the old generic poo poo everywhere rather than the extended shot of an iPhone or glistening can of whatever that we get now. Doesn't usually make a big difference but still. It's a case to case thing for me. Gran Torino having Walt order a Pabst is fine, it's what the character would drink and it's one line. But if it's like Will Smith in I, Robot ordering a Dos Equis and the camera closing in on it while he talks about his vintage 2005 Converse sneakers then it's loving retarded.
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Sep 21, 2011 01:43
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Razorwired posted:It's a case to case thing for me. Gran Torino having Walt order a Pabst is fine, it's what the character would drink and it's one line. But if it's like Will Smith in I, Robot ordering a Dos Equis and the camera closing in on it while he talks about his vintage 2005 Converse sneakers then it's loving retarded. Yeah of course you're right, product placement has reasonable limits that are no problem as long as film makers stay within them. I'm not rabidly against it by any means 
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Sep 21, 2011 01:56
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steinrokkan posted:This is weird. I don't live in the US, which is definitely a huge factor, but I usually order "beer". There is always an unwritten understanding as to which of the available brands is implied to be the default one, so I generally get what I want. Yep, here in Belgium, if you ask for a pint, you generally get the normal draught beer. Nobody will ask you to specify.
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Sep 21, 2011 01:58
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Fragrag posted:Yep, here in Belgium, if you ask for a pint, you generally get the normal draught beer. Nobody will ask you to specify. At least in the bars I've been to, there are usually several beers on tap, plus bottles, so this is probably the disconnect. Seems like Americans are actually being inconvenienced by our range of options :firstworldproblem:
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Sep 21, 2011 02:09
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Another Aladdin one: At the end, Genie expects Al to wish himself back to a prince, and is suffered to a life of servitude...except, you know...there are two other people RIGHT THERE who know the whole situation, are already royalty, rich beyond their imagination, and really don't need any wishes. Why couldn't one of them wish Genie free?
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Sep 21, 2011 02:26
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DrBouvenstein posted:Another Aladdin one: Aladdin was the current owner of the lamp; It had to be Al. Yeah, no reason they couldn't have passed it off to one of the other two, but I think it loses a bit of symbolism to make your first wish be freeing the genie rather then the last one. Disney is big on symbolism.
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Sep 21, 2011 02:58
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Just watched Predators a few days back. How the gently caress does Topher Grace know that some alien plant has a neurotoxin? 
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Sep 21, 2011 03:16
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steinrokkan posted:I remember reading in the promo materials something about how people developed some military-grade lasers and poo poo, but that it was abandoned because an effective technology capable of disrupting the emitters was adopted soon afterwards. Okay, no lasers. But surplus/obsolete is one thing - these guys are doing the equivalent of using pre-WWI weapons today which feels a little absurd.
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Sep 21, 2011 03:27
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wyoming posted:Just watched Predators a few days back. Parallel evolution. If life evolved on other planets, it's conceivable that it would be similar to our own. Plants only have a few ways to defend themselves from predators, and evolving toxins of various sorts is one way to stop animals from eating you.
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Sep 21, 2011 03:45
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ace_beef posted:Parallel evolution. If life evolved on other planets, it's conceivable that it would be similar to our own. Plants only have a few ways to defend themselves from predators, and evolving toxins of various sorts is one way to stop animals from eating you. He actually identifies the plant as "Arcifructis Leonagensis" - presumably an Earth species introduced to the planet by the Predators cause it's such a predator like most everything else. Google only gives hits for the movie though, so it appears to be made up. Edit: Ah the quote is spelled & pronounced wrong, it's actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaefructus_liaoningensis which I don't see why he should know, or even that it's toxic. It's the earliest confirmed flowering plant apparently. Carthag Tuek has a new favorite as of 04:13 on Sep 21, 2011 |
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Sep 21, 2011 04:09
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DrBouvenstein posted:Another Aladdin one: This has been driving me nuts for years.
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Sep 21, 2011 04:32
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DrBouvenstein posted:Another Aladdin one: Okay. Okay. Okay. I've got one. Whyyy would the Genie think he'd want that? To marry the princess? But HE ALREADY WISHED TO BE A PRINCE. They do make a deal of exposing him as not a "real" prince in the movie, which also made no sense. Why wouldn't it count as him being a real prince? It's not like that was one of the Genie's three provisos. If the wish only gave him the entourage and wardrobe of a prince the first time he wished for it, why would it be any different if he wished for it again? Moreover, the first wish came apart because Jasmine and Jafar recognized him as "really" a street rat. With Jasmine and the sultan right there, if the royals decided to stick to the precedent established in the first two acts of the film saying that magic princes don't count, the wish clearly wouldn't have covered Aladdin's rear end. The thought occurred to me that the Genie could have been bullshitting the first wish and was going to make the final wish better. It could be mind-wiping the princess and the sultan so they wouldn't know any better, actually giving Aladdin a kingdom to be prince over, altering reality so the circumstances of Aladdin's birth were different, etc. But if the Genie was open to such monkey's paw-style shenanigans, why didn't the Genie pull the same poo poo when Jafar wanted to be sultan? "Oh, yeah, here's the money and the clothes, but no one's really going to believe it once they get a look at your face. No wait, I guess I secretly like you more than Aladdin or something." Someone please explain it to me if I missed something.
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Sep 21, 2011 04:39
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Christmas Jones posted:Okay. Okay. Okay. I've got one. The Genie just expects Al to wish for something other than his (the genie's) freedom. It wasn't a rational analysis of what Al's best move would be, he just thought that his master would not wish him free because that's what happened every time.
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Sep 21, 2011 06:07
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Huitzil posted:The Genie just expects Al to wish for something other than his (the genie's) freedom. It wasn't a rational analysis of what Al's best move would be, he just thought that his master would not wish him free because that's what happened every time. Well then it's good that this is the irrationally irritating moments thread. Although the difference between Aladdin not being a "real" prince but Jafar being a "real" sultan makes no sense, rational or otherwise.
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Sep 21, 2011 06:19
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Christmas Jones posted:Well then it's good that this is the irrationally irritating moments thread. Although the difference between Aladdin not being a "real" prince but Jafar being a "real" sultan makes no sense, rational or otherwise. Al wants to be a prince, bada-bing bada-boom it's done. Jafar wants to be the sultan, and it happens. He's installed over the current one, who is no longer the sultan. The difference lies in the fact that Jafar's has direct ties and consequences that we can see, whereas Aladdin just needed a cover story (which is much easier to pull off than, say, creating an entire nation) Although one could argue that Genie might have actually made Aladdin a prince by twisting the fabric of reality to set into motion the events leading up to the third movie, where Aladdin is basically the prince of thieves. Regardless the sultan thing lasts for all of five minutes before Jafar decides he'd rather be a sorceror so it doesn't really matter too much.
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Sep 21, 2011 08:14
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Correction: Jafar wanted to be an all-powerful Genie. He got his wish, but there are rules about being a Genie... Such as, being bond to a lamp unless freed via wish.  Didn't think that one through all the way. Edited for spoilers on the nigh-astronomical chance that someone doesn't know how Aladdin ends  better safe then sorry. There ARE still people who don't know how FF7 goes, after all.
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Sep 21, 2011 08:24
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Correction: Jafar wanted to be an all-powerful Genie. He got his wish, but there are rules about being a Genie... Such as, being bond to a lamp unless freed via wish. He wishes to be a sorceror first. It goes sultan->sorceror->genie Because he must have MORE POWER
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Sep 21, 2011 08:25
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FrancisYorkPatty posted:He wishes to be a sorceror first. It goes sultan->sorceror->genie Ah, you are correct. I haven't seen the movie all the way through in almost a decade, I should dig out my niece's DVD for some nostalgia time. 
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Sep 21, 2011 08:26
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It's worth it for the songs alone, especially Aladdin's prince theme with the parts sung by Genie pretending to be regular people. The whole film is great, even if it does have a few minor bumps. Like the wishing thing, nobody will ever get wishing right in a movie, there is always a loophole unless you say "no loopholes, I get final say on what poo poo can fly" "You can't wish for somebody to love you." "I wish I was a combination of every trait Jasmine finds attractive" "...gently caress you, street rat."
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Sep 21, 2011 08:36
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Any film where a character's plan would have fallen apart if another character had only reacted in a different and yet still perfectly plausible way. For example, in Vertigo, the bad guy's elaborate plan to kill his wife absolutely and completely rests on James Stewart's character NOT sticking around to notice that the woman he's fallen in love with is not actually the same woman who's just jumped from the church roof. Is it understandable that guilt might makes him flee the scene? Sure. But is it possible to count on him definitely responding this way, rather than, say, making sure he can't help or stay to explain things? No way. I know that this element isn't remotely the point of Vertigo but it still really bugs me.
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Sep 21, 2011 08:38
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I always thought the last scene in Aladdin was more of a moral choice than anything. He had seen how Genie hated basically being a slave to anyone who got a hold of the lamp. I mean, in the beginning he gets out of the cave without technically wishing for anything, so he's probably smart enough to think of using the sultan and Jasmine to get more wishes. But he wants to be the Genie's friend, not just another master. And if he pulls "Well I'm gonna set you free after me and my friends get everything out of you." he's a pretty lovely friend.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Correction: Jafar wanted to be an all-powerful Genie. He got his wish, but there are rules about being a Genie... Such as, being bond to a lamp unless freed via wish. Yeah because a video game ending and one of the most successful children's movies of all time is the same 
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bows1 posted:Yeah because a video game ending and one of the most successful children's movies of all time is the same I was using FF7 as an example: There are still people around who, somehow, have yet to be spoiled for the events of FF7. By that logic, there are still people who, somehow, still haven't seen Aladdin. I'd rather not take the chance.
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In the film The Untouchables, there's a scene where Ness and Malone go to the police academy to recruit and they settle upon Stone, who is of course really named Guiseppi. When Malone talks about wanting a 'stinking My annoyance stems from Andy Garcia's delivery of the line. He delivers it coldly, which I can understand, but he pauses after the word Irish. It's inexcusable and I notice it everytime I watch the film. Ugh. Shame. Good film otherwise though. EDIT: VVVVV Well, duh, of course it is. I'm a fool, sorry. Rankine Over Gash has a new favorite as of 21:02 on Sep 21, 2011 |
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Sep 21, 2011 20:33
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Rankine Over Gash posted:In the film The Untouchables, there's a scene where Ness and Malone go to the police academy to recruit and they settle upon Stone, who is of course really named Guiseppi. When Malone talks about wanting a 'stinking wog' on the team, Stone retorts back (sorry to paraphrase) 'better than a thieving Irish...pig'. It's wop, not wog.
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Razorwired posted:Maybe all movie bars serve Beer brand beer The worst offender is Clerks. There's an entire subplot revolving around selling cigarettes, yet all anyone ever asks for when they walk in is "a pack of cigarettes". Holy poo poo, Kevin Smith, it would've taken 3 seconds to make up a brand name. Carthag posted:That is literally the case with every Die Hard movie though. As for the others, Simon Says would've starred Brandon Lee until he died filming The Crow. Then they briefly considered making it another Lethal Weapon sequel. WW3.com was based on a 1997 Wired article about cyber-terrorism, and was shelved after 9/11 until they revived the script to make it a Die Hard movie. Bonk has a new favorite as of 21:03 on Sep 21, 2011 |
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