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The gladiators I have been paired up with as a warrior for those story instances health all spiked and died far faster than me : / maybe they were just bad and not using their damage cool downs? I definitely see the value in a warrior tank that knows how to use Inner Beast, Thrill of battle as well as which skills to use that will make Inner Beast heal you for a gently caress ton. Lets the healers get the raid topped off when I can just heal myself for the next 10 seconds or whatever.
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BadLlama posted:The gladiators I have been paired up with as a warrior for those story instances health all spiked and died far faster than me : / maybe they were just bad and not using their damage cool downs? I definitely see the value in a warrior tank that knows how to use Inner Beast, Thrill of battle as well as which skills to use that will make Inner Beast heal you for a gently caress ton. Lets the healers get the raid topped off when I can just heal myself for the next 10 seconds or whatever. Or they have awful gear or something. It's really obvious the difference between WAR and PLD tanks. Paladins you can pretty well predict where there health will be moment to moment, and you can pre-cook heals to get them ready for hits. Warriors though, they just spike up and down up and down. It's really hard to properly prepare for big damage phases with warriors, and I often panic when I see the huge drops and use unnecessary cooldowns because I think they're about to take some tiny damage from a dot or something and keel over dead.
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Sep 17, 2013 20:26
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ActionZero posted:So my subscription time from legacy is up and both of my debit cards through an error when I try to pay. Sent a message to SE support last night and just got an email back asking for information I included in the ticket, replied to email with the details they asked for but got nothing yet (I sent this email 9 hours ago) and European support is closed for the day now. Choose the Crysta option in the subscription payment option, use UltimatePay and you should be good to go. One month = 1299 crysta. 1 crysta = 1 cent.
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Sep 17, 2013 20:28
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Zaphod42 posted:Other people in the thread are having the exact same issue. It sucks but they're probably working on it. You can be patient or if you want to play now you can try using paypal as described earlier in the thread. Thanks for the tip! Had to buy more than I needed so I'll probably be stuck using crysta until the increments I can buy and use sync up closely enough for me to not feel annoyed at wasted money (seems I can get it down to like 15 crysta within the year cause it's 699 per 30 days with legacy in EU) but I have 30 days playtime now. edit: vvv I didn't even notice that! I'll do that next time to make it up to exactly enough for another 30 days then never look back. ActionZero fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Sep 17, 2013 20:29
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ActionZero posted:Thanks for the tip! Had to buy more than I needed  Is this option broken or something?  I mean, considering their account system, I wouldn't be surprised if it was, but.
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Sep 17, 2013 20:33
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Aladar posted:
Worked perfectly for me. I bought Crysta, plugged in the exact amount needed, done. Got my 3 month subscription rewards instantly on login.
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Sep 17, 2013 20:34
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Why am I nor surprised I picked the tank class that is least desired. Sadly, unlike WoW, I can't just DPS instead without leveling another class.
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Sep 17, 2013 20:48
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I don't know how often this has been said but unless you're doing bleeding edge progression while undergeared (i.e. Coil Turn 5 which is tuned for full ilvl 90 gear) WAR work just fine.
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Sep 17, 2013 20:49
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Khisanth Magus posted:Why am I nor surprised I picked the tank class that is least desired. Sadly, unlike WoW, I can't just DPS instead without leveling another class. I wouldn't worry about it too much. With the amount of complaints (including on the japanese forums) I'm sure there will be changes. They did a good job of trying to address the tank disparity during the beta, they obviously just fell a bit short and need to tweak it a bit more. KaneTW posted:I don't know how often this has been said but unless you're doing bleeding edge progression while undergeared (i.e. Coil Turn 5 which is tuned for full ilvl 90 gear) WAR work just fine. Just because it's possible doesn't mean it doesn't make it a lot more difficult than it should. THE PWNER fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Khisanth Magus posted:Why am I nor surprised I picked the tank class that is least desired. Sadly, unlike WoW, I can't just DPS instead without leveling another class. 1) While Warrior is currently (somewhat) worse than Paladin for Tanking, it's not the end of the world. If people don't invite you to Tank because you are a Warrior, you probably don't want to be playing with them anyways. 2) The keyword is being that "currently" they are worse... meaning that there are good chances that due to the obvious flaws in the Warrior class, they'll receive buffs accordingly in upcoming patches. 3) They will be adding more Job Souls for all the current jobs to open up more roles for each class (like how ACN functions right now). Marauder will obviously get something along the lines of Berserker as a DPS role  Please look forward to it!Please play what you enjoy and try not to cater to what min-maxing elitists claim. Happy Blue Cow fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Sep 17, 2013 20:54
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THE PWNER posted:Just because it's possible doesn't mean it doesn't make it a lot more difficult than it should. But it doesn't! We got to Turn 4 with a PLD and WAR really easily. There hasn't even been a situation where having a PLD instead of WAR would have saved us.
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Sep 17, 2013 20:56
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KaneTW posted:But it doesn't! We got to Turn 4 with a PLD and WAR really easily. quote:There hasn't even been a situation where having a PLD instead of WAR would have saved us. Yeah I'm sure! Balance is perfect.
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Sep 17, 2013 20:59
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Happy Blue Cow posted:Please play what you enjoy and try not to cater to what min-maxing elitists claim. So much this. A large chunk of the issue with Warriors has nothing to do with the class and everything with social perception plus the desire of the masses to take the easiest road through content. You can't ever stop that trend, it will always be an issue, and some class will always get the short end of the stick in that respect. There's a fair number of Paladins who aren't happy with being 'stun bitchbot' for a few high level fights, which is, again, a social issue as much as a class one (there are plenty of other ways to handle those specific fights). And we're talking about issues with a tiny few fights in the game in comparison to the entire span of, what, 18 dungeons, 2 boss fights and 6 primal fights? Somewhere in that neighborhood. I'd say they hit pretty close to the mark as is, and they'll get tweaked eventually. Right now they're dealing with completely full servers and will be for some time until the first month freetime subs fall off. We only just hit the first gap (1.0 players free time expired today).
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Sep 17, 2013 21:02
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KaneTW posted:But it doesn't! We got to Turn 4 with a PLD and WAR really easily. There hasn't even been a situation where having a PLD instead of WAR would have saved us. How about if you had 2 WARs? Now 2 PLDs?
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Sep 17, 2013 21:04
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As someone who likes to play the market a bit, gather and generate money that way, the number of bots is downright sad. The days of decent economies are probably gone. Rascyc posted:I level about 50% faster doing tradeleves than straight grinding as well. The biggie is that tradeleve nodes get something like 6 strikes as opposed to the normal 4, and the final 2 strikes can chain 50% bonuses. The downside is you can't strike HQ materials so you lose the potential 200% bonus experience at ~15%-25% odds on each strike. In my mind this is pretty much a wash, but it does mean you shouldn't lose experience on hitting tradeleve nodes over normal nodes due to lack of HQ. Some of the tradeskill leves are too good to pass up. The level 30 Blacksmith - The Naked Blade - from Limsa where you deliver to Costa del Sol yields 68k exp on HQ hand in. I did 31-35 with about 10 or 11 HQ hand-ins. It rewards about 1k gil each hand in. The gathering leves give you more exp than straight gathering, but you end up doing more farming with gathering skills for tradeskill grinding anyway if you don't use tradeskill leves. Save up Leves for tradeskills starting at about level 30 and you will really appreciate the time savings.
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Sep 17, 2013 21:18
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You can re-level classes very quickly anyway.
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Sep 17, 2013 21:18
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Heres a question, What happens if you try to queue with a group of only 3 healers/tanks or more than 4 dps? Does it throw an error or something?
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Sep 17, 2013 21:27
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Khisanth Magus posted:Why am I nor surprised I picked the tank class that is least desired. Sadly, unlike WoW, I can't just DPS instead without leveling another class. You're also one of two total tank classes. Comeon guy use your brain. They're not going to leave 50% of tanks unplayable. Goons are being goons, but WAR isn't that bad, and even if it is, THIS IS AN MMO. They can do server-side patches constantly for balance poo poo. Happy Blue Cow posted:1) While Warrior is currently (somewhat) worse than Paladin for Tanking, it's not the end of the world. If people don't invite you to Tank because you are a Warrior, you probably don't want to be playing with them anyways. The DPS job crystal for MRD should be SAM!  It makes total sense. Samurai was a DPS class in XI, and yet they're heavily armored melee fighters built on combos. Katana fighting styles are closer to axe fighting than normal sword fighting styles, so it makes sense. You just have to add katanas and make it so the job crystal lets you use them, or just completely drop the stupid "one weapon type per class" nonsense and have more fun.Gimme some scythes and 2-h swords as WAR, PLZ!
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Sep 17, 2013 21:29
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THE PWNER posted:Well that's it then, there's clearly no problem. If a warrior can main tank current raid content, then balance is ok. Yeah, it could be better and they are working on it, but it isn't like warriors are so bad you can't use them for content, which still happens sometimes in these games. This isn't to say that warriors don't need buffs, but a lot of the warrior talk in this thread tries to paint the picture that warriors are a broken and crippled class, which is not the case.
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Sep 17, 2013 21:41
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Acelerion posted:Heres a question, No, as long as the group is full, it'll go through fine. This is the normal way of doing hard primals (minus ifrit) and speed running castrum, with only one tank.
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I'd like to stab the developer at Squeenix who had the idea that a mandatory leveling dungeon boss (Garuda) should be one that the tank could miss with attacks.
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Sep 17, 2013 22:03
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this troper posted:I'd like to stab the developer at Squeenix who had the idea that a mandatory leveling dungeon boss (Garuda) should be one that the tank could miss with attacks. Whats the big deal? I don't see how that's inherently wrong. It could be an unbalanced fight overall, I haven't run it yet, (although it doesn't sound like people are having that much trouble with it), but that alone is no reason to stab somebody, and that alone isn't even necessarily bad design. The group just has to be that much more aware/careful about aggro. Again, I haven't run it though, so feel free to let me know what the situation is.
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Zaphod42 posted:
Give me a DRK for my MRD and I'll be the happiest man alive. Give me SAM and I'll be happy, but just super pissed that I didn't name my Mithra "Pizza Cat"
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Sep 17, 2013 22:12
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Zaphod42 posted:Katana fighting styles are closer to axe fighting than normal sword fighting styles, so it makes sense. This was so gooney I chuckled at work.
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Sep 17, 2013 22:15
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I think we armchair speculated for several pages that DRK is more likely to come from GLD because there's pretty much no shield-using jobs left in the lore and the only excuse is that Cecil used a shield.
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this troper posted:I'd like to stab the developer at Squeenix who had the idea that a mandatory leveling dungeon boss (Garuda) should be one that the tank could miss with attacks. Do you want them to play the story for you or something?
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this troper posted:I'd like to stab the developer at Squeenix who had the idea that a mandatory leveling dungeon boss (Garuda) should be one that the tank could miss with attacks. You can miss any enemy with attacks if you're unlucky/have low accuracy
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Manslaughter posted:I think we armchair speculated for several pages that DRK is more likely to come from GLD because there's pretty much no shield-using jobs left in the lore and the only excuse is that Cecil used a shield. Red Mages use shields, at least they did in XI. Beastmasters, too. And Thieves could, but that's highly unlikely.
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Waddup, my man. I love the galkas in 14. (sorry freakazoid.)
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ActionZero posted:So my subscription time from legacy is up and both of my debit cards through an error when I try to pay. Sent a message to SE support last night and just got an email back asking for information I included in the ticket, replied to email with the details they asked for but got nothing yet (I sent this email 9 hours ago) and European support is closed for the day now. This goes for anyone with this issue, but do you use Firefox and something like Noscript? Disable it and try again. Noscript seems to block global collect and there's no real easy way to make an exception for it as far as I can tell. Had the same problem, with the error code 606 specifically and after I turned it off it worked just fine.
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Sep 17, 2013 22:42
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Warriors own and aren't as broken as the doom and gloom implies. Have fun and hit things with an axe!
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I never even saw all the stuff about Warriors. What was it? They seem totally fine... I'm level 50 doing AK runs and hard primals and I haven't had a problem yet.
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Common fallacies about boss fights:
 Edit: ^^WAR tanks start being goofy once you hit Titan HM and if you're unlucky Titan can instantly kill a WAR tank without a chance to react. IIRC full Darklight gets you past that threshold (but still damned close), but a PLD can do it in mostly i60 gear from AK and be fine. Zagposting fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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dichloroisocyanuric posted:I never even saw all the stuff about Warriors. What was it? They seem totally fine... I'm level 50 doing AK runs and hard primals and I haven't had a problem yet. Pubbies believe no shield = not a tank. Because WoW.
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Sep 17, 2013 23:10
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boho posted:Pubbies believe no shield = not a tank. Because WoW. That hasn't been true since Wrath of the Lich King introduced Death Knights though.
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boho posted:Pubbies believe no shield = not a tank. Because WoW. This is reason enough for a Ninja blink tank to be added, destroy the pubbie psyche. Also, Corsair, because I want guns and swashbukler outfits to go with my awesome random buffs... and a Dancer healer class, because gently caress you dungeon finder queue more healers and tanks for everyone.
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Riftling posted:[*]”This lag is BS, it’s impossible to avoid these bombs and earthquakes and cheeseburgers being thrown at me.” It's when the cast runs down, not when the red zone disappears, which is only a minor difference in how hilariously janky and busted the entire thing is in terms of how it looks and feels. Bad Breath must be affected by an invisible wind that always blows downwind of me and Titan must've cribbed Reverse Polarity when I wasn't looking.
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Vanderdeath posted:That hasn't been true since Wrath of the Lich King introduced Death Knights though. Right, but it took a long time and lots of tweaks for Death Knight tanks to be taken seriously.
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Chucat posted:It's when the cast runs down, not when the red zone disappears, which is only a minor difference in how hilariously janky and busted the entire thing is in terms of how it looks and feels. Huh, the two have always been in sync for me. Good to note, though, thanks. Random tip for tanks: Turn legacy movement on in your character options. Yes, it's annoying to get used to, but it's incredibly useful. Moving backwards will make you turn and full run in that direction instead of back stepping at a slow pace. With this, you can position yourself slightly inside of bosses, then just run through them to dodge an AoE and run back before the animation is over. This is incredibly helpful on Hydra where getting hit by one AoE can spell doom for your group. On the WAR note, too, that's another disparity. PLDs can get hit by Hydra's healing debuff and pop a cooldown to help mitigate it. WAR gets hit by it and really doesn't have anything except for cross-classed Convalescence to deal with it, and that won't make up for how hard Triumvate is hitting you. Basically you need to play that fight flawlessly as a WAR whereas PLD can mess up a couple of times and still be okay.
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