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akadajet posted:i used to think u needed to build a new compy every 2 years or so, but now that's not really the case still rocking a core i5 2500k from like 2010 over here
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until last year I used a Core2Quad from 2008... I only upgraded because I needed a new mobo and RAM. That way I only ever had to pay big bucks for a good GPU and the rest is history
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poty posted:the amd releasing a good cpu for once thing is irrelevant but everything else is pretty problematic op the problem with thunderbolt is that it's stupid thunderbolt 3.1 is good for up to 40 gbps of bandwidth. multiplexed inside that bandwidth, hypothetically, is usb 3.1 (10 gbps), pci-e 3.0 (64 gbps), and displays (48 gbps for hdmi 2.1) i think you can see how 10 + 64 + 48 doesn't add up to 40 gbps thunderbolt will never work as a bus, with multiple devices hanging off. it barely even has the bandwidth required to support an individual display.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the problem with thunderbolt is that it's stupid lol. first, 4K/60 = 12gbps. pcie3 = 8gbps per lane so you can drive 2 4K displays and have enough bandwidth for all of your usb3 needs plus gigabit Ethernet plus a SATA controller and a sound card. and if you want a 4x pcie device, you can plug in the second thunderbolt port. it’s working great for me.
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The Management posted:lol. https://www.extron.com/product/videotools.aspx basically maxed out 4k60 with 10 bit color is 22. and in the beforetime when i designed mipi interfaces for mobile devices, we did lossless compression to save power. you can really reduce that data rate, but it has been so long since i looked at hdmi standards that idk if there are plans to support display stream compression like what mipi has in hdmi.
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Jun 23, 2018 18:44
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is it better than ethernet over hdmi
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C.H.O.M.E. posted:i designed mipi interfaces for mobile devices LP in the VBI or gtfo.
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The Management posted:first, these are both old as gently caress numbers, since now the ball has moved to bigger displays. also, i was using the figure for a 4x pci-e because lol what the gently caress runs on 1x the problem is that thunderbolt is always a day late and a dollar short when a new thing comes along, and it's never not going to be if it were just a pci-e extension that had usb, that would probably be fine at every new iteration of thunderbolt it tries to also be a display setup and every drat time it's behind
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:these are both old as gently caress numbers, since now the ball has moved to bigger displays. also, i was using the figure for a 4x pci-e because lol what the gently caress runs on 1x 8k displays exist. they take 2x display port, so it’s not like there is anything that can drive them available yet. so thunderbolt is still the highest bandwidth display transport available. not sure how that is a day late. it can be just a pcie extension that has usb. you don’t have to plug it into a display. every iteration of thunderbolt is a superset of displayport, the current standard display technology. you can pretend it’s display port if that’s all you want.
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16k displays exist too, but DisplayPort for whatever reason has been slow updating for "newer and better things"(tm). When DisplayPort gets the bump no doubt Thuderbolt will too afterwards to match. Many TV networks and cable distribution are still only 720p so it's all a bit of a niche market. MrMoo fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jun 23, 2018 |
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The Management posted:8k displays exist. they take 2x display port, so it’s not like there is anything that can drive them available yet. so thunderbolt is still the highest bandwidth display transport available. not sure how that is a day late. well no, right off the bat, hdmi 2.1 is higher bandwidth... and hdmi 2.1 has fewer multiplexing obligations. and hdmi 2.1 notably has native support for 8k @ 60 Hz, already. no double cable higgery pokery required
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32k displays are in the pipeline and when you buy one you'll discover 64k displays are about 2 months from coming out im not interested until they get to 256k. that is when I finally be content
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Jun 24, 2018 03:12
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420k my dude
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Captain Foo posted:what if gpu but phone what if ur posts but good
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Silver Alicorn posted:420k my dude 
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:incel inside still keep thinking of this 
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Skim Milk posted:what if ur posts but good idgi
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Silver Alicorn posted:420k my dude 420k by 69k 
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:no that story is completely laughable Brian Krzanich (or BK as he presents himself to the Intel employees) is known to be a womanizing dickhead company wide. There is 100% another story behind this. He will say some pretty vile poo poo while on conference calls or walk through tours.
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kzin602 posted:Brian Krzanich (or BK as he presents himself to the Intel employees) is known to be a womanizing dickhead company wide. There is 100% another story behind this. He will say some pretty vile poo poo while on conference calls or walk through tours. i don't know about his reputation, but anyone who can't keep their dick in their pants for a 21 million dollar salary surely has poor impulse control.
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C.H.O.M.E. posted:i don't know about his reputation, but anyone who can't keep their dick in their pants for a 21 million dollar salary surely has poor impulse control. how do you think you make it to ceo in the first place
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Jun 24, 2018 20:04
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I thought Apple announced the death of intel processors in their computers so they could crash intel stock and buy the company with the copious amounts of cash Tim Cook uses to wipe his rear end on a daily basis
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:how do you think you make it to ceo in the first place struth
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Ripoff posted:I thought Apple announced the death of intel processors in their computers so they could crash intel stock and buy the company with the copious amounts of cash Tim Cook uses to wipe his rear end on a daily basis why would he buy a company whose chips they no longer use?
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could they retool the fabs to make chips they do want to use?
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i didn't even known thunderbolt was still a thing edit: was thundebolt that the one they codenamed "light peak" and everyone thought it sounded cool but by the time it finally came out we had usb3 and displayport and nobody used it?
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The Management posted:why would he buy a company whose chips they no longer use? Farmer Crack-rear end posted:could they retool the fabs to make chips they do want to use? it’s this - Apple likes vertical integration whenever possible so I’m kinda surprised they haven’t decided to buy intel and make a-chips in-house instead of relying on one of their literal competitors for components who makes the a-series now? Samsung and some Chinese manufacturer, right?
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C.H.O.M.E. posted:i don't know about his reputation, but anyone who can't keep their dick in their pants for a 21 million dollar salary surely has poor impulse control. i think you underestimate the scent of a woman
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pretty sure placing your dick on the table in a full suit gets you to the c level but you gotta jelq to ceo
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Ripoff posted:it’s this - Apple likes vertical integration whenever possible so I’m kinda surprised they haven’t decided to buy intel and make a-chips in-house instead of relying on one of their literal competitors for components they already design the chip in-house, that is why they bought pa semi Ripoff posted:who makes the a-series now? Samsung and some Chinese manufacturer, right? samsung and tsmc
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if apple wanted to manufacture their own semiconductors, they could choose to merge with either intel or tsmc. (samsung is off the table because it is not really a public company despite the elaborate sham). but apple total market cap is 900B; intel and tsmc are each about 250B; total acquisition costs would probably be in the 300-400B range does anyone really, truly believe that vertically integrating the production stage would be worth diluting apple stock by 40-50%? plainly apple's management doesn't right now, without that final stage of integration, they have two fabs competing against each other (samsung and tsmc) with two more equally capable giants waiting in the wings (gf and intel). a fab acquisition would make them less, rather than more, valuable. (edit: in a world where apple owned tsmc or intel, they would have a harder time convincing samsung or gf to be a second source) Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Jun 25, 2018 |
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:still rocking a core i5 2500k from like 2010 over here upgraded from one of these in 2017 to a ryzen 7 1800X cause it was on sale for $100 off. even at 4.5Ghz the 2500k just couldn't keep up. haven't owned an amd cpu since my dual athlon 2500+ MP machine. it's good to be back. go amd go
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C.H.O.M.E. posted:420k by 69k i was hoping for 219 by nice but here we are
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:4x pci-e because lol what the gently caress runs on 1x lots of things actually i mean you probably don’t want to dangle a rack of tesla cards off a single thunderbolt cable or use thunderbolt to build a supercomputer but 1) ~prosumer~ poo poo and 2) legacy poo poo will benefit from having babby level cable pcie on a device with no exposed or free regular pcie slots the most pcie bandwidth that’ll actually get used on thunderbolt is an external GPU for someone’s mobile 1337  battlestation and apparently gpus mostly run ok even when somewhat bandwidth starved. everything else will be controllers for a bazillion peripheral ports which will mostly not be in use at once/be attached to slow poo poo and will do ok sharing pcie x2 or something
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Hugh G. Rectum posted:upgraded from one of these in 2017 to a ryzen 7 1800X cause it was on sale for $100 off. even at 4.5Ghz the 2500k just couldn't keep up. haven't owned an amd cpu since my dual athlon 2500+ MP machine. it's good to be back. i feared this was the case. I can tell mine is limiting things with the new card, but it's okay for now if that article is right, in a year or two maybe it'll be amd again after I, too, haven't touched them since the barton 2500
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Agile Vector posted:i feared this was the case. I can tell mine is limiting things with the new card, but it's okay for now in destiny 2 with a 980 I went from 80-100fps and 100% CPU usage to solid 144 at 25-30% cpu on the ryzen. it's a big upgrade.
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Ripoff posted:it’s this - Apple likes vertical integration whenever possible so I’m kinda surprised they haven’t decided to buy intel and make a-chips in-house instead of relying on one of their literal competitors for components Apple is an engineering and operations company, it doesn’t do manufacturing. that’s low margin, high capital expenditure commodity business. that includes chip fabrication. apple multi-sources everything they can from suppliers to guarantee supply and quality. Apple pre-buys commitments to lock competitors out of supply, get the best price, and sometimes corner the market on components. Apple squeezes them on margin when they compete and become commoditized. Apple does not do manufacturing, life is much better for them being the big customer.
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Hugh G. Rectum posted:in destiny 2 with a 980 I went from 80-100fps and 100% CPU usage to solid 144 at 25-30% cpu on the ryzen. it's a big upgrade. dang. after you mentioned it earlier, i monitored mine and yeah, im definitely reaching the cpu limit on some games and it's holding it back my display is only 60hz, so for a bunch of games it's fine but for some larger mmos the bottleneck is pretty clear and dropping the gpu settings does nothing to improve it until its limiting models i had to replace some bad ram, so I'm going to milk it for all its worth but I guess its time to consider this only a fine cpu intel: just fine
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Agile Vector posted:dang. after you mentioned it earlier, i monitored mine and yeah, im definitely reaching the cpu limit on some games and it's holding it back yeah it depends on the game but its just freakin old as dirt at this point. even at 4.5Ghz it was a huge bottleneck.
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