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This is a 'babbies first mechanical keyboard' question but I'll ask anyway. I've just got a Logitech G710+ for home and am finding it fairly loud even when I make the effort to not bottom out the keys. Being browns with o rings already installed this is about as quiet as mechanical keyboards get right?
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Oct 27, 2014 00:12
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dissss posted:This is a 'babbies first mechanical keyboard' question but I'll ask anyway. No, a red or black will be much quieter. Or a topre.
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Oct 27, 2014 00:45
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alo posted:For the past decade and a half, I've used a Model M (at home, at work). It's great, I love it. I don't have any issues with noise and I absolutely love the feel of the keys. None are really that close to the Model M. Clicky switches that are even close would be like the Cherry MX Blue and ALPS white switches, but they're not that similar. Aside from the very expensive old model M space savers, Unicomp (the only current buckling spring manufacturer) is working to produce a new keyboard that is supposed to be available soon that is in a small layout, but there's been no word about production since the announcement in April. from: https://www.facebook.com/PCKeyboard quote:Unicomp, Inc. I'm hoping it'll be good. Also hoping for n-key rollover but I don't know if unicomp will be able to deliver it.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:13
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Don Lapre posted:No, a red or black will be much quieter. Or a topre. How would reds or blacks be quieter? The differences are that they don't have the bump that the browns do and different actuation forces. It's not like the browns have a click like the blues do.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:17
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Just picked up my first mechanical keyboard (k70 mx blue) and holy poo poo. This thing is awesome.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:32
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unpronounceable posted:How would reds or blacks be quieter? The differences are that they don't have the bump that the browns do and different actuation forces. It's not like the browns have a click like the blues do. Sorry got my switches mixed up.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:42
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e: ok already got it, but I wrote a post anywaysDon Lapre posted:No, a red or black will be much quieter. Or a topre. A topre is quieter than any standard mechanical, true. Red, black, and brown cherry are all the exact same as far as noise goes. Clacky if you bottom out, pretty quiet if you type lightly without bottoming. The notch in the brown switch makes no sound. With o-rings they have a lot less clack, but 2mm of rubber isn't magic and I suspect dissss either has a heavy hand or is particularly sensitive. Also your desk or whatever the keyboard is on can have a big effect -- I have a heavy wood desk that resonates a lot with my board. I think the solid metal plate in most mechanicals transmits the thunk well. Put a spare mousepad or some folded cloth under it and you might find the volume quite improved. Cherry clears are maybe the quietest because you're really really not supposed to bottom out with those. If you are you will probably have RSI problems.
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So I recently bought a new CM Storm Quickfire XT Stealth with MX Cherry Green swtiches. It was a bitch to find one online, and I ended up purchasing it from a Canadian eBay seller. I received it and the spacebar was stuck in the depressed position. I managed to get it unstuck, but it feels sluggish and it gets stuck occasionally. I tried swapping the spacebar key and the stabilizer from a QuickFire Rapid that I have, but it's not any better. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? I may just end up seeing if Cooler Master can fix it or swap it for another one, but since it was such a bitch to find I wonder if they even have one to send me. Anyone have experience with Cooler Master support?
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Oct 27, 2014 05:20
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43% Burnt posted:So I recently bought a new CM Storm Quickfire XT Stealth with MX Cherry Green swtiches. It was a bitch to find one online, and I ended up purchasing it from a Canadian eBay seller. I received it and the spacebar was stuck in the depressed position. I managed to get it unstuck, but it feels sluggish and it gets stuck occasionally. I tried swapping the spacebar key and the stabilizer from a QuickFire Rapid that I have, but it's not any better. I have the same keyboard, purchased from the same Canadian eBay seller. No issues with mine, but I hear CM support is hit or miss.
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Oct 27, 2014 07:31
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Klyith posted:e: ok already got it, but I wrote a post anyways Clears are definitely quieter than Browns. I suspect Clears with o-rings would be very quietest although, as you say, they very rarely bottom out unless you're really hammering your board, so maybe they wouldn't make that much difference. Mine only go a hair past the actuation point now that I've adjusted to them.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:00
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Just got a K70 RGB red, the firmware and software is very buggy right now. If I have steam running on startup the corsair software hangs, I have to start it after steam is loaded. Apart from that it's pretty cool, and has fancy lights all over it. The only other mechanical keyboard I have is a FILCO cherry black and I can't really tell much of a difference between red and black. Other features: I set my capslock key to F13 and you can make the keys display a ghost chasing pacman.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:26
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43% Burnt posted:So I recently bought a new CM Storm Quickfire XT Stealth with MX Cherry Green swtiches. Geirskogul posted:I have the same keyboard, purchased from the same Canadian eBay seller. No issues with mine, but I hear CM support is hit or miss. How have you found the Greens? I'm musing between greens and clears for my next keyboard.
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Oct 27, 2014 14:13
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Rexxed posted:None are really that close to the Model M. Clicky switches that are even close would be like the Cherry MX Blue and ALPS white switches, but they're not that similar. Aside from the very expensive old model M space savers, Unicomp (the only current buckling spring manufacturer) is working to produce a new keyboard that is supposed to be available soon that is in a small layout, but there's been no word about production since the announcement in April. Check the date on that press release - I wouldn't hold my hopes up.
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Oct 27, 2014 17:45
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Knifegrab posted:Any word when corsair will update their RGB software? Hopefully by the UK release date, which is November 17th.
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Oct 27, 2014 17:48
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Knifegrab posted:Any word when corsair will update their RGB software? By the end of the month.
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One Swell Foop posted:Check the date on that press release - I wouldn't hold my hopes up. They said after the announcement that it was a coincidence that it was on April 1st. They even changed the day to the 2nd.
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Oct 27, 2014 19:36
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43% Burnt posted:I managed to get it unstuck, but it feels sluggish and it gets stuck occasionally. I tried swapping the spacebar key and the stabilizer from a QuickFire Rapid that I have, but it's not any better. When you took the key top off, did you try pressing on the switch itself? That's what you want to do so you know whether the problem is with the switch internals or just something with the stabilizer or fittings. If it's actually the switch you could try squirting some non-conductive cleaner in there to give a shot at unsticking it. The Quickfire XT is a costar board I'm pretty sure, the costar stabilizers I think are less likely to be hung up on stuff but it could happen. When I did the reverse spacebar trick I got it wrong the first time and the key got stuck, had to take it apart again and figure out exactly how to set the stabilizer catches.
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Oct 27, 2014 19:51
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El Scotch posted:How have you found the Greens? I'm musing between greens and clears for my next keyboard. I really do like the greens; they require a bit more force than my browns so it's taking some getting used to, but I find myself making fewer mistakes due to grazing the wrong key. That being said, I think the spacebar being sluggish is either psyching me out or really affecting my typing ability, as my speed has actually gone down. Klyith posted:When you took the key top off, did you try pressing on the switch itself? That's what you want to do so you know whether the problem is with the switch internals or just something with the stabilizer or fittings. If it's actually the switch you could try squirting some non-conductive cleaner in there to give a shot at unsticking it. No problem with the switch. I've examined the spacebar and I can't see any place where it's wearing funny or anything. I find that it sticks most frequently when I press on the left side, plus I can clearly see the stabilizer bar underneath the key when it is fully seated. This is definitely not the case with my QuickFire Rapid with browns. Cooler Master support got back to me. Their only suggestion was to make sure the USB cable was plugged in  . I'm afraid to go that route if that's any indication of how it will go.
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Oct 27, 2014 20:20
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El Scotch posted:How have you found the Greens? I'm musing between greens and clears for my next keyboard. Loud as poo poo, but I'm okay with that, because typing on it is spectacular.
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Oct 27, 2014 23:03
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Pretty sure I figured out why my key was sticking. The switch itself wasn't sticky, but it was crooked. I took a nylon pick/spudger that I had laying around and a hammer and slightly tapped on it to correct it. I can't tell if it did much visibly, but it seems to be reacting a lot more smoothly. I also ordered some o-rings from Amazon to put on it. The spacebar really seems (seemed?) to get sticky when bottomed out. I ordered the el cheapo Buna-N ones in case I don't care for the feel. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FMYR9S/ref=pe_385040_121528360_TE_dp_1
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43% Burnt posted:Pretty sure I figured out why my key was sticking. The switch itself wasn't sticky, but it was crooked. I took a nylon pick/spudger that I had laying around and a hammer and slightly tapped on it to correct it. I can't tell if it did much visibly, but it seems to be reacting a lot more smoothly. Ok. You might also check out this image album with pictures of removing / replacing costar stabilizer keys, because I'm wondering if the stabilizer wire is bent or not fully clipped in, because you shouldn't be able to see it underneath the key when it's pressed down.
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Oct 28, 2014 02:52
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Klyith posted:Ok. You might also check out this image album with pictures of removing / replacing costar stabilizer keys, because I'm wondering if the stabilizer wire is bent or not fully clipped in, because you shouldn't be able to see it underneath the key when it's pressed down. Yeah, it's definitely in there correctly. Here's some images: http://i.imgur.com/LTWqQ7i.jpg The switch in the foreground is the spacebar switch, and behind it is the B switch. Hard to tell, but the B switch is straight while the spacebar switch is skewed to the right. http://i.imgur.com/HhjAUDE.jpg Here's the key when completely seated. It doesn't sit quite flat and the stabilizer is totally visible. I've taken care of the sticking issues but I'm still contemplating an RMA. This is an expensive-rear end keyboard that's billed as a precision instrument. I bought the stealth version because I liked the aesthetics, but this totally mars the looks of it.
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Oct 28, 2014 04:01
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What's the current option for a decently-quiet mechanical keyboard with no numerical pad (but that has a USB port on it)? Or am I asking for too much? I'm not a gamer - just a dude who's sick of his lovely wireless keyboard and wants something minimal that won't look crappy on his desk. I do a lot of photoshop + writing + CAD work. Alternatively - is there a nice-looking/minimal tenkeyless wireless keyboard out there?
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Oct 28, 2014 05:22
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Guitarchitect posted:What's the current option for a decently-quiet mechanical keyboard with no numerical pad (but that has a USB port on it)? Or am I asking for too much? https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards
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Well, I'm clearly heading down the rabbit hole. Got in on that Massdrop for the Vertex PBT/POM backlight compatible, OEM-profile keycaps that they did a few weeks back. They came in, and I think they're awesome. Feels so much better than the already better-than-I'm-used-to CODE default keycaps, and white backlit keys on a black keyboard looks cool  poo poo. I already liked mechanical keyboards and THEY'RE supposed to be the expensive thing in that equation, I thought! LEGOs for adults... Edit: I removed the stabilizer bars from every key except the Space bar. The only one I might put it back for is the Right Shift; if I press it riiight on the outside edge, it won't actuate at the same force as the rest of it, but that isn't where my fingers ever go and it's much quieter without it. I was kind of surprised at how unnecessary the comparatively noisy bars are - maybe I'll find out later that they're all that saves longer keys from getting broken in half or something, but for the time being I have a much quieter computing experience all around without them. And they're kind of a pain in the rear end to work with anyway, so win-win, I guess! Agreed fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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Agreed posted:Well, I'm clearly heading down the rabbit hole. Got in on that Massdrop for the Vertex PBT/POM backlight compatible, OEM-profile keycaps that they did a few weeks back. They came in, and I think they're awesome. Feels so much better than the already better-than-I'm-used-to CODE default keycaps, and white backlit keys on a black keyboard looks cool Got a photo? I like the keycaps on the CODE but I just know they're going to go worn out and shiny and annoy me at some point. I was wondering how well the backlight would play with other keycaps.
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Oct 28, 2014 16:08
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chippy posted:Got a photo? I like the keycaps on the CODE but I just know they're going to go worn out and shiny and annoy me at some point. I was wondering how well the backlight would play with other keycaps. I'll take one in a bit, no problem  Between the CODE's bright damned LEDs and WASD (filco? costar?... drawing a blank) painting the mounting board, the lowest brightness setting actually illuminates the entire keycap from the back when it's darker in the room. The letters are vivid and bright, just like when there's direct light shining on it, but in the dark the keycaps go from solid white to a really cool bright gray.A picture is gonna be worth more than all the  here, so I'll make sure to take one of it in the daylight and in the dark. Very satisfied with the purchase and already looking at other cool keycap options out there, god help me!
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Oct 28, 2014 16:18
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End of the month is fast approaching, I wonder if Corsair will stick to their promise of updated software before the months ends.
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Oct 28, 2014 16:57
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Guitarchitect posted:What's the current option for a decently-quiet mechanical keyboard with no numerical pad (but that has a USB port on it)? Or am I asking for too much? Ok, well I'm still looking for what amounts to a HHKB2 Pro at this point without paying goddamn $260 for one but I won't want anything more beyond this. https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400b Alright maybe I want some macro controls for playing certain games that are giving me RSI from hitting a key constantly, but I think it's better I just quit said games than to pay for another keyboard to deal with it.
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Oct 28, 2014 16:59
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu1gP4PfqCQ I can see why they last so long now.
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Oct 28, 2014 18:48
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Here's an album with some poorly taken photos of my keyboard. iPhone 3GS had kind of a poo poo camera when it was new, and it has not improved with age  http://imgur.com/a/VuvZm These two show the difference between lights and no lights pretty well. Color isn't quite right, they're a little whiter than the picture shows. Not completely white, though. Very light gray, really. Pops like crazy against the black of the frame, and as mentioned they feel fantastic to type on.   These aren't even that pricy compared to many. Somewhere around $40 if you want them tomorrow, though I went with Massdrop so I got to think about 'em for a month and a half. I am curious what more expensive ones have to offer. These are not at all insubstantial and they're made with a cool blend of materials. Good texture on the fingers. Agreed fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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Oct 28, 2014 19:05
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I also got the PBT backlit keycaps, and I'm rather less impressed. They feel great, of course, being PBT keycaps, but the legend font and layout (vertically stacked, which means the lower ones are just not backlit at all) is not terribly attractive, and a far cry from the clean and classy look of the CODE keycaps. E: Here are two pictures of it on my Ducky DK2108S with blue LEDs.   GokieKS fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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Oct 28, 2014 19:15
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Mind if I ask what the packaging for yours said? Mine came as "KBtalKing History T" on the lid (followed by some Chinese characters), with PBT & POM written out in black, glossy print on the side. Unusual plastic from China: not just for foodstuffs anymore. Edit: The right shift stabilizer bar does not appear to do anything, although I can hear myself use the Shift key a bit louder now so that's... Well, I'm not going to be arsed with taking the damned thing off again, as those little stabilizer bar retainer clip thingies break really easily. Agreed fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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Oct 28, 2014 19:34
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My packaging is the same. This is the type of packaging typically used for loose tea leaves, so I was pretty amused that it came in one of these.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:38
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Visidan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu1gP4PfqCQ That was actually a really cool video.
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Oct 28, 2014 20:15
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Wow, you guys really like your nice keyboards. I'm happy with the stock MacBook Air keyboard, but I find myself working on an external monitor and want to set it up so that I'm typing on a bluetooth keyboard and using a mouse. What's the go-to Mac bluetooth keyboard with number pad? I'd just go with the Apple wireless keyboard, but it has no number pad.
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Oct 28, 2014 22:44
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tuyop posted:Wow, you guys really like your nice keyboards. If you want the chiclet style, Belkin has a standalone bluetooth numpad, or Logitech has this thing but it uses its own dongle.
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Nice keyboards are nice. Heck people here paid 10 bux to post in an internet forum, might as well spend some more when we are facing computers all day long. It's the internet so it's so easy to find people who like to  about all sorts of hobbiesVisidan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu1gP4PfqCQ It's a cool video! I do wonder if they actually replace their force actuators frequently enough though. They claim that the switches can last a 50 million times but if the puncher gets dulled they can easily cook the numbers up to prove 100 million actuations. And their factory could have been produced in China but because of EU product laws, the final product must be made in the EU and produced in Germany for the company contracts. So most of the parts are sourced from China. It's a great video and I hope you guys appreciate the work people go through to make your everyday product. A 2 cent cost increase overall increase is not as simple just spending some money. Everything has to be tested and validated, supply chain partners have to be notified, etc... One thing I do want to ask, which part in the keyboard is the most prone to failure? Is it the main PCB breaking down due to humidity? Or the stabilizer wires?
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