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Cardiac posted:Also I just checked your post history in this thread, and I can't find any sourced links disproving my links. But I might have missed them? Cardiac posted:Also, I have supplied links for these statements in this thread taken from varying sources including Svt, DN and other places. Cardiac posted:Of course I read Fria Tider, Flashback and Avpixlat, since it provides additional information and typically all articles are sourced there. Our newspapers are hardly unbiased, which the treatment of Arnstad, Researchgruppen, SUM, MMRK and now lately one boss at SR clearly shows. Cardiac posted:since in a couple of years a number of major Swedish newspapers will be dead.  Ahahaha. Okay so every single major newspaper in sweden will be dead... why? Because of their abhorrant bias towards the immigrant question? That is insane. This is insane.
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TheFluff posted:I'm working on a new OP, but in the meantime feel free to PYF political music in a scandinavian language Good music. Have some ~culture relations~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj3lvSKOs5w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9INaInYMuQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBcJZ3-cJKc Bonus actual political stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-EEZxIDLmc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_5yjYX_Bls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi-PK8qKV4Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGsktGrJdH4
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Benito Hitlerstalin posted:Why the poo poo would anybody (outside of criminals and criminal investigators) follow loving flashback? If I hadn't read Flashback I'd have never learned the secret to how not to upchuck when drinking T-Red (lots of Piggelin) or how using a toy gun can get you immortalized in gangster legends.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lvj4AD8Deo Rika barn leka bäst
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Oh we're into political music? Let's get the political songs you should listen to all day every day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UlVy3uhHIc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-EEZxIDLmc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBnontgMO9A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L0YVJC1E-A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQvIw5EVRVo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_mBUo6GG7A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtfIvwdTJZQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cfa4F50T5U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvcVfB3eoeU And then, as an outro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8UZFHrCHc Rutkowski fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 00:30
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a true classic
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Political music, eh? I think this is among my favorites (and a bit different): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70wzl6UvDQM Also, obvious comedy option re: language relations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXbPrCZ6dk
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Oh god the scene where they are all litsening to Göran Greider in the living room after the shopping trip is just a masterpeice. Here's a good one on Finland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPsCLHyRO-Y And the Sweden Democrat voter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZBifpSZT1k Postorder Trollet89 fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Oct 1, 2014 |
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Here's a good one on Finland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPsCLHyRO-Y This is just anecdotal of our beloved neighbors, I'm sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg_LA3KkIJc
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So "sosse" in Swedish is something you call social democrats? I found that kind of funny because "soss" in Norway is what some would call the people hosting that party, its a kind of insult aimed at (more often young) people who are very obviously upper class in their appearance and mannerism.
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Randarkman posted:So "sosse" in Swedish is something you call social democrats? I found that kind of funny because "soss" in Norway is what some would call the people hosting that party, its a kind of insult aimed at (more often young) people who are very obviously upper class in their appearance and mannerism. Young silver-spoon adults are "brats", plain and simple.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wq7WUUX8U4 Not the best from that show, but its a political parody bit and it features the former leader of Norwegian LO (Norwegian Confederation of Trade Unions). e: seems its only the bits with that guy in (though I seem to recall that "Operasjon Rettferdighet" is the plot of an entire episode and not just a sketch in it), and he's mostly just talking about older overhead projectors. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Oct 1, 2014 |
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Redan postat? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdUBs8m7Q5M
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While we're on the topic entertainment. This is a classic Swedish mocumentary about lonely swedish men in pursuit of a relationship partner outside our countrys borders. In this case, Tallinn, the capital of Estonia. The name is quite literally "Whoring in Tallinn" or "Screwed in Tallinn" in some translations. Had it been more modern it would obviously be about a trip to Bangkok or something like that. But it was made in 1999 so I digress. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFjHduGC91w You'll find quite a few Swedish character stereotypes in this film.
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I bought a thing on eBay: I'll put this on MY SAILBOAT (not my sailboat, I get to borrow it in exchange for maintenance) next summer and hope I annoy some liberals.
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TheFluff posted:I bought a thing on eBay: Sail by a navalbase or a coastguard boat so you can get arrested or questioned while you're at it.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Sail by a navalbase or a coastguard boat so you can get arrested or questioned while you're at it. It's actually not illegal to carry any drat flag you want on a small leisure boat in Swedish waters. Also, the navy can't really afford to run their ships more than once a week these days and the Soviet Union collapsed over twenty years ago. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Oct 2, 2014 |
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So, as this is kind of turning into the general Scandinavian thread (or at least it is my understanding that a new thread will), it seems the Norwegian government have said that they will not apply to host the 2022 Winter Olympics in Oslo. It's a matter that's been going on for quite a while. The idea has been popular and championed by various Norwegian sports and athletic associations as well as the Conservatives (Høyre) in Oslo where roughly 50% have been positive to the idea, whereas outside the capital people have really been very much against it, mostly arguing along the lines that it will be massively expensive and the money can be better spent elsewhere, compounded by the fact that everything done in Oslo usually ends up massively delayed and over budget, there's also people in general not liking the IOC for being a bunch of corrupt assholes. So there's that, not really all that interesting, but it's something. e: Seems they also demanded that the government foot the bill for a cocktail party with the king amongst many other demands such as complete control over ads displayed in the city. e2: only remaining choices are Almaty and Beijing, pretty hilarious actually. e3: some of the IOC list of demands, supposedly it's 7000 pages long in its full glory http://www.vg.no/sport/ol-2022/ioc-krever-gratis-sprit-paa-stadion-og-cocktail-fest-med-kongen/a/23306598/ Randarkman fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Oct 2, 2014 |
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Randarkman posted:So, as this is kind of turning into the general Scandinavian thread (or at least it is my understanding that a new thread will), it seems the Norwegian government have said that they will not apply to host the 2022 Winter Olympics in Oslo. Good for you, I can't even remember the last time a country didn't get screwed by winning that bid.
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TheFluff posted:It's actually not illegal to carry any drat flag you want on a small leisure boat in Swedish waters. Also, the navy can't really afford to run their ships more than once a week these days and the Soviet Union collapsed over twenty years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMnPxyr2JT8
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I like Hövlervivisa posted on the last page, but what does "Me stainnjpunkt te sin stainnj" mean? Nynorsk or whatever dialect that is is crazy hard to understand sometimes. And yeah, it's probably not a good idea to ever host the olympics. Even with all the sponsoring and tourism, it seems to always end up costing more than it brings in. Political prestige and diffuse "brand building" are the only gains. More of that Norweigan stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMljIX05ivc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRRS8iH4Qo8
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:I like Hövlervivisa posted on the last page, but what does "Me stainnjpunkt te sin stainnj" mean? Nynorsk or whatever dialect that is is crazy hard to understand sometimes. its in the dialect of trøndelag. In written bokmål that would be "med standpunkt til sin stand," and it roughly translates to "(the workers) having taken a stance towards their social standing." They know what their work is actually worth. And to contribute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjjhCEiSDSk (a really neat edit of a classic track)
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:I like Hövlervivisa posted on the last page, but what does "Me stainnjpunkt te sin stainnj" mean? Nynorsk or whatever dialect that is is crazy hard to understand sometimes. Nynorsk is actually not a dialect, it is exclusively a written language  Norwegian has two written variants, bokmål which was based on the spoken Danish-Norwegian hybrid of the middle and upper class, mostly from the south east and particularly from Oslo. Nynorsk as a written language is an approximate mix of the dialects of rurual Norwegians, created by a priest and teacher (Ivar Aasen) who travelled around to study the dialects of ordinary people and create a Norwegian written language. Both were created in the nationbuilding environment of the 19th century. Here's a map over usage, blue is Nynorsk, red is Bokmål, grey is neutral.  Use of Nynorsk has been steadily declining, though the official TV and radio stations are required to have a certain portion of content in Nynorsk to keep it going, Bokmål is much more heavily used and is what is written most frequently in the 3 largest cities (Oslo, Bergen, Trondheim). The language issue "Målsaken" is a frequent political issue in Norway, where the proponents of Nynorsk are passionate about keeping it alive against the onslaught of Bokmål, and many people are against it because they don't like it and can't really write it and they can get a lot of support from young people who are against it pretty much simply because it is part of your grade in Norwegian in high school. You also have many (mostly upper class) people in Western Oslo and Akershus who absolutely loathe Nynorsk and actually prefer a form of old Bokmål, called Riksmål, which is essentially Danish. In the '50s the Labor Party attempted to end the language issue by combining Bokmål and Nynorsk into a simple language called Samnorsk (similar to what is often called "Radical Bokmål"). This was a spectacular failure and met with resistance from both proponents of Nynorsk (though serious attempts at introducing Samnorsk were not really done in those parts of the country) and, especially, parents in Oslo who took to protesting and correcting their children's textbooks so they would not learn to speak like peasants and communists. e: Also many of the dialects of Trøndelag, particularly in the north of that region, are normally depicted as almost completely incomprehensible to other Norwegians because of their tendency to "talk inwards", quickly and mumble like crazy. I think Vømmøl are from Nord-Trøndelag, but at least the way they sing is generally mercifully understandable to most. Also note that Trøndelag is mostly neutral in regards to written language or they use Bokmål. There is a relation between your dialect and the written language you are likely to use, but your spoken language may be very different from how you write either way. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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The new ministers has been presented. http://www.svt.se/nyheter/sverige/ny-regering-presenterad
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lullelulle posted:The new ministers has been presented. SVT posted:Här följer hela ministerlistan: And there was much rejoice. Wallström, Romson, M.Johansson, Andersson, Bolund were all pretty obvious. Interesting parts: Note that there is no minister for immigration nor for integration. On the other hand, either position is more or less suicide on a political level so.... We are getting 3 ministers for education, Fridolin along with one for gymnasie and one for higher education/research. One was apparently not enough? Shekarabi has a history of fraud within SSU and we will see how long he lasts. Kaplan have said jihadists in Syria is the same thing as Swedes fighting for Sweden in the Winter War during WW2. Have connections to MB, and have been a member of SUM, an organisation that have problems not inviting antisemites and fundamentalist muslims. Baylan was kicked sideways into energy, which is somewhat expected since he is if anything loyal to the current agenda. Hultqvist is probably a step up from what alliansen had as minister of defence and looks initially promising. Also, Alice Bah 
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Weren't they just plain getting rid of the ministry of integration and immegration and moving its responsibilities?
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Xoidanor posted:Weren't they just plain getting rid of the ministry of integration and immegration and moving its responsibilities? Apparently this is something that is going to be handled by all ministers, which in a way is sensible since integration is dependent on people getting work and places to live. Bonus feature for S and MP is that they won't have a minister that gets trounced by Åkesson in debates. Another way of looking at it is that S and MP are trying to hiding away those issues by not having ministers directly responsible for it. Which would be kinda stupid and sort of missing the point.
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Alice Bah and Mehmet Kaplan. It's the biggest gently caress you to SD i've seen thus far. A noteworthy fact is that S as is typical gets all the decisionmaking departments where the money has to pass through. MP won't get much done in this cabinet thats for sure.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:A noteworthy fact is that S as is typical gets all the decisionmaking departments where the money has to pass through. MP won't get much done in this cabinet thats for sure. To be fair, MP did horribly in the election, and is essentially a remora to the underside of S's shark.
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What does a democracy minister do? That sounds a bit like a made up title to my ears.
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I totally tagged Alice Bah as the culture minister just after the election.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Alice Bah and Mehmet Kaplan. It's the biggest gently caress you to SD i've seen thus far. I know literally nothing about Kaplan, but how is Bah a "gently caress you to SD" other than one of her parents being an immigrant. She's born in Sweden, and is not a name that is typically associated with immigration in any way really. None of her previous jobs stand out as making her a "big gently caress you to SD" either that I can see.
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Buffis posted:I know literally nothing about Kaplan, but how is Bah a "gently caress you to SD" other than one of her parents being an immigrant.
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Buffis posted:I know literally nothing about Kaplan, but how is Bah a "gently caress you to SD" other than one of her parents being an immigrant. What Rukowski said on Alice Bah. As for Kaplan, He was part of the dabate surrounding the mohammed caricatures in denmark back in 2006 aswell as having a pretty skeptic stance on Israel to put it politely. He was on one of the ships that were borded in 2010 for example. Not to mention SD's voters hate him because he is a muslim who gets to run state city planning now, they probably think he will build mosques everywhere.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Alice Bah and Mehmet Kaplan. It's the biggest gently caress you to SD i've seen thus far. A noteworthy fact is that S as is typical gets all the decisionmaking departments where the money has to pass through. MP won't get much done in this cabinet thats for sure. I am noticing that you didn't mention either Shakarabi, Hadzialic or Baylan as part of your "gently caress you SD"? Also, why should SD dislike Alice Bah, she is according to all of their definitions Swedish? That promotion is going to be hilarious regardless, since now a former host for children TV programs is going to be in charge of culture politics. Hmm, I wonder whether she also has been doing cocaine as another host for child TV did. Kaplan is problematic, since he has been involved in organisations tied to MB and other anti-democratic movements, none of which are representative of muslims in general. Noteworthy is that he is MP and not S, who apparently have better internal control which the whole Omar Mustafa affair showed. S is in all likelihood better at handling entryism than MP. For more information on the various islamist organisations in Sweden, Flashback have a pretty good thread. https://www.flashback.org/t2202762
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No thanks on that flashback thread. This is the muslim group he was part in making: http://muslimerforfred.org/ http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svenska_muslimer_f%C3%B6r_fred_och_r%C3%A4ttvisa They sound just awful! ewie.
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Cardiac posted:Kaplan is problematic, since he has been involved in organisations tied to MB and other anti-democratic movements, none of which are representative of muslims in general. Can you back this up by something other than a thread on a notoriously islamophobic web forum?
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Also the Muslim Brotherhood is probably the most powerful democratic movement in the Middle East - at least for their region, there's absolutely no reason to call them "undemocratic". Their one state leader was democratically elected and then brought down in a military coup, for gently caress's sake.
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