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Toady
Jan 12, 2009

prefect posted:

Weren't the flippers also supposed to be penises, or did I imagine that?

If I imagined that, nobody steal my idea.

Toady fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Jan 8, 2015

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FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...
I'd play it.

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut
Python Anghelo was one giant walking id, wasn't he?

Clouseau
Aug 3, 2003

My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.
On Barry Oursler's TOPcast interview, he said that Python would disappear for days while they were working on a game, and then reappear shortly before his work was due and pull all nighters until it was done. He was just a weird dude.

Funny to read in that piece that 5 and 6 thousand are counted as the absurdly high prices for the super rare Capcom games. Sigh.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Honestly, gently caress Big Bang Bar. Kingpin doesn't deserve to be in its shadow, it's a really fun game on its own, judging from what I've got to see from the Visual Pinball recreation, but it doesn't seem to get a fraction of the hype BBB gets.

Kingpin needs to come to TPA or something like that. The licensing can't be that outrageous, right? And virtualizing games that never got past the proto phase but are fully functional is a great way to get some press amongst the pinball world.

Clouseau
Aug 3, 2003

My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.
The problem with the Capcom games is the emulation won't work on phones, and I guess there aren't enough games and they aren't popular enough for them to invest their super limited resources in trying to solve that issue.

Breakshot and Pinball Magic are two pretty fun games. They're not exceptional, but they're pretty decent. Flipper Football is really dumb but it's kinda fun.

Domus
May 7, 2007

Kidney Buddies

FishBulb posted:

I'd play it.

I've always thought that it was a waste there wasn't a pornographic pinball 2000 game. It was the perfect system for adjusting the nudity/sex to the establishment. You could have a pretty innocent looking playfield, and change the graphics/sounds depending on the kind of place it was. You could even set the graphics to change on a timer, so it'd be no more offensive than a data east playboy during the day, but get really raunchy at 9 pm after the dinner crowd goes home. You could even change the featured gender for gay bars, and such. Stern's playboy kind of had this, as it had 3 different sets of pictures you could put into the game, but you had to manually unscrew a bunch of stuff to switch them out, making it impractical for quick changes. Heck, with pinball 2000, you could even charge more money for a more pornographic game...

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010

FIND THE FISH!

Domus posted:

I've always thought that it was a waste there wasn't a pornographic pinball 2000 game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjUSNZ6Abtk

It was in the works when they shut down the pin division.

JumpinJackFlash
Nov 15, 2001

Domus posted:

I've always thought that it was a waste there wasn't a pornographic pinball 2000 game. It was the perfect system for adjusting the nudity/sex to the establishment. You could have a pretty innocent looking playfield, and change the graphics/sounds depending on the kind of place it was. You could even set the graphics to change on a timer, so it'd be no more offensive than a data east playboy during the day, but get really raunchy at 9 pm after the dinner crowd goes home. You could even change the featured gender for gay bars, and such. Stern's playboy kind of had this, as it had 3 different sets of pictures you could put into the game, but you had to manually unscrew a bunch of stuff to switch them out, making it impractical for quick changes. Heck, with pinball 2000, you could even charge more money for a more pornographic game...

There was a very early prototype of Playboy for pinball 2000. At least two different white wood designs were created.

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011
Honestly I'm just sad that Farsight has totally ruled out Pinball 2000 tables. My local establishment (The Game Preserve in Houston) has a Revenge from Mars and it's a ton of fun.

DevCore
Jul 16, 2003

Schooled by Satan


The other pinball spot in town finally swapped out a busted Adams table with what looks like a single private owner version. Everything is fantastic on that table. Can't wait to put some games through it and really learn the table.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

TheMcD posted:

Honestly, gently caress Big Bang Bar. Kingpin doesn't deserve to be in its shadow, it's a really fun game on its own, judging from what I've got to see from the Visual Pinball recreation, but it doesn't seem to get a fraction of the hype BBB gets.
I think the hype is because many people have actually had a chance to play BBB, and if you just play a few times it's a great, fun game. (If you get a bit deeper in it becomes painfully obvious that it's an unfinished game though.) The people who have tried it will praise BBB, and so the hype grows.

Meanwhile, with there being a grand total of 9 8 Kingpin games in the world, a lot less people have ever had a chance to try it.

And if I'm to be honest, BBB is a lot more visually appealing than Kingpin's depression-grey cabinet. :)

T-Shaped
Jan 16, 2006

The weapons you pick up along the way help. At least they help you do less talking.
Was having this discussion awhile ago - are there any true "must play" EM games?

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

T-Shaped posted:

Was having this discussion awhile ago - are there any true "must play" EM games?

Do you mean "must play" because of historical importance or just because they're fun? (Either way, I'm interested in what the answer turns out to be.)

T-Shaped
Jan 16, 2006

The weapons you pick up along the way help. At least they help you do less talking.

prefect posted:

Do you mean "must play" because of historical importance or just because they're fun? (Either way, I'm interested in what the answer turns out to be.)

Both, basically. I've played the stuff on TPA, and have hit a Bank Shot and Gold Strike in person.

Domus
May 7, 2007

Kidney Buddies

Discount Viscount posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjUSNZ6Abtk

It was in the works when they shut down the pin division.

Huh. Learn somethin' new every day. I'd heard of wizard blocks, but not this. Interesting concept with having to spell out the month's letters for each playmate. Kind of seems like January and February would be hard, and then you'd have it easy until September.

T-Shaped posted:

Was having this discussion awhile ago - are there any true "must play" EM games?

Fireball? It's the number 1 game people remember from the end of the EM era. Plus it's got zipper flippers, and multiball. Can't believe no one realized that Wotan and Odin are the same deity, but whatever. Can't think of another EM that got a SS remake.

DevCore
Jul 16, 2003

Schooled by Satan


A walk around tour of Pinballz Arcade here in Austin TX:

http://youtu.be/h5NO3jD47MI

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

So how is TPA on the PS4 at this point? I have really played it since season one even though I used to be obsessed with the game. The developers got on my nerves far too much but I'm thinking of jumping back in and buying some table packs if it's worth it.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

DevCore posted:

A walk around tour of Pinballz Arcade here in Austin TX:

http://youtu.be/h5NO3jD47MI

I love this joint and haven't been in months, I should go again soon.

Casnorf
Jun 14, 2002

Never drive a car when you're a fish

T-Shaped posted:

Both, basically. I've played the stuff on TPA, and have hit a Bank Shot and Gold Strike in person.
Big Shot/Hot Shot would be my vote, but I might be biased.

In other news, I need a cheap source for a Gottlieb EM chime unit. Mine is inexplicably missing the strikers.

XenoCrab
Mar 30, 2012

XenoCrab is the least important character in the Alien movie franchise. He's not even in the top ten characters.

Kilometers Davis posted:

So how is TPA on the PS4 at this point? I have really played it since season one even though I used to be obsessed with the game. The developers got on my nerves far too much but I'm thinking of jumping back in and buying some table packs if it's worth it.

I'd already played lots of Season 1 on PS4, but I've been playing a ton lately with the Season 2 releases (I held off on most of the S2 tables for the PS4 versions) and getting the rest of Season 3 and I far prefer it to the Steam and iOS versions. There are still plenty of dumb little *Farsight* issues with certain tables, but in general everything works great and I think the enhanced lighting is a huge addition to the game. PA is definitely one of my top 3 most played PS4 games.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

XenoCrab posted:

I'd already played lots of Season 1 on PS4, but I've been playing a ton lately with the Season 2 releases (I held off on most of the S2 tables for the PS4 versions) and getting the rest of Season 3 and I far prefer it to the Steam and iOS versions. There are still plenty of dumb little *Farsight* issues with certain tables, but in general everything works great and I think the enhanced lighting is a huge addition to the game. PA is definitely one of my top 3 most played PS4 games.

Sounds cool, thanks. I've got like $75 on PSN so I'll at least grab season 2. It's a shame Farsight is so painfully inconsistent. I've had amazing times with TPA but they make it so frustrating sometimes. They're the only ones doing what they're doing though so I suppose it's way better than nothing.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy


There are your answers.

FutureFriend
Dec 28, 2011

holy poo poo how has farsight still not made any instructions for earthshaker after so many days

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

Just look up the rulesheet online, it's what I did.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug

FutureFriend posted:

holy poo poo how has farsight still not made any instructions for earthshaker after so many days

The iOS update for it dropped Friday I think but I haven't gotten around to install it yet. I've falle behind on my pinball duties.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

Just hit up Pinballz the other night. Still super bad. Got my poo poo kicked in by Black Knight as per usual. I dunno what it is, but I just cannot get my feet under me on that table. That carried over into one of the shortest Pinbot games I've ever had. I think I lost all three balls in like forty-five seconds. Only interesting spot was getting a ball stuck on Star Trek: The Next Generation in a spot where I couldn't even describe where it was stuck because apparently I couldn't remember the term kick-out hole. (it was behind the KOH in a little circle of bare wood surrounded by bumpers) I couldn't fit my hand in, the attendant couldn't fit their hand in, it wouldn't pop out when the attendant rocked the playfield back and forth, the attendant's second attempt with the hand finally got it out.

And if that's your most interesting moment, man, you're bad.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I
I went up to Pinball Wizard in Pelham, NH yesterday. Super cool place, it's in a somewhat small venue (a largish place in a strip mall) but they really packed it full of games. Most pins are 3-4 tokens, which adds up when you're really bad like me- I have this thing about nudging real tables where I feel like I'm going to break something, so I almost never do it. They had pretty much every table I wanted to play, excluding Terminator 2, and there were only two or three tables that were out of order, with an operator working the whole day on fixing stuff. They even had a simple little pin that printed tickets (Mario World), which I've never seen before. They had a head-to-head table, which is something I've always wanted to try, but it was out of order. They had pretty much all the newest tables, too: WoZ, Walking Dead, Tron, Avatar, etc.

Getting to play BK2K was a treat, and I was surprised to actually find Twilight Zone a little easier as a real table than in TPA. Medieval Madness is a real bastard, though.

The really great thing about the place, however, is their considerable amount of fighting games, all priced at one token, and the Virtual-On and Neo-Geo machines.

It's right on the NH state line, so if you're Boston area, it's probably only 30 minutes or so out of the way. And you can hit up the state liquor store next door and get some cheap hooch, too. Oh, and there's a Groupon deal to get 100 tokens for 15 bucks.

Anonymous Robot fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jan 11, 2015

tonedef131
Sep 3, 2003

FutureFriend posted:

holy poo poo how has farsight still not made any instructions for earthshaker after so many days
The guy who does all their instructions had a family emergency, so rather than wait to release the game or have inconsistent instructions they released it without. It's been updated now though, I downloaded the instructions yesterday along with a rumble option for iOS.

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

So another update on my cabinet. I'm probably 95% or so done with it. Very little left to do really.

First up a few pics

Inside of cabinet/Wiring




Game shot



And some quick videos

I'm using PinballX as my front end, this is what it looks like in attract mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tZPgYjB5HI

Here it is manually cycling through the tables

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bio6i1V--34

And here's a quick video of my playing World Cup Soccer '94

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9joz2W8pUc

If you'll notice the sound of the flippers seem louder than normal it's because I have 2 24v Siemens contactors connected to a relay board for real force feedback. I have another 6 contactors on order to add 2 more for the slingshots near the flippers, 3 for the back right bumpers and another one for a bumper/slingshot on the left side of the playfield, should have them wired up this week.

Right now I've got 68 visual pinball tables installed, all of them DOF compatible, which means they are all integrated with the LEDs and force feedback toys and all are d2bs tables, which is the animated backglass system. I've also got the new visual pinball phys mod 5 installed, which is the newest version of visual pinball with updated physics models, which, one VP10 comes out will be in that version, there are about 10 tables in the cabinet running on that, the rest on the latest version of the regular visual pinball.

Basically what I have left to add are the remaining contactors, glass for the playfield and some sort of side art. I'm extremely happy with how it's turned out, I've already had 3 people ask how much to build them one, one of whom was my dad who really couldn't believe what he was playing, he loves pinball(I'm going to build him one for his birthday which is in april!) and everyone who has come over to play it loves it.

mattfl fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Jan 12, 2015

FutureFriend
Dec 28, 2011

tonedef131 posted:

The guy who does all their instructions had a family emergency, so rather than wait to release the game or have inconsistent instructions they released it without. It's been updated now though, I downloaded the instructions yesterday along with a rumble option for iOS.

oh jeez, kinda feel bad now. hope everything's alright with that dude's family.

hasn't seem to be updated on PC yet, guess they're waiting for the next table to come out?

Forums Terrorist posted:

Just look up the rulesheet online, it's what I did.

yeah i ended up doing that. although it made me realize the pinball arcade ruleset is a lot easier to understand

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

tonedef131 posted:

The guy who does all their instructions had a family emergency, so rather than wait to release the game or have inconsistent instructions they released it without. It's been updated now though, I downloaded the instructions yesterday along with a rumble option for iOS.

Do you really need a dedicated "instructions guy"? You'd think that wouldn't be so hard. Open up an IPDB rulesheet, copy poo poo down, and move the camera around.

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

I was at CES this week for work and managed to sneak away and see the Stern booth. I played the wrestle mania table a bit and while the art and theme were a bit crappy, the actual ring itself was really great and fun to play. Also got to try their Star Trek table and liked it quite a lot.
I may have some terrible cell phone pics if anyone is actually interested in them.

Same Great Paste
Jan 14, 2006




Really enjoy the new Star Trek.

Was playing it today. Really wish I had the capital and skills to make an after market mod for the middle "punch it!" button. A big gently caress-off tough/soft button that you have to SLAM.... Or wire in an electronic boxing dummy or something. Maybe it's a dumb idea... Probably.

Nurge
Feb 4, 2009

by Reene
Fun Shoe

TheMcD posted:

Do you really need a dedicated "instructions guy"? You'd think that wouldn't be so hard. Open up an IPDB rulesheet, copy poo poo down, and move the camera around.

I doubt that's all he does unless they just contract out the instructions to him, but I could easily see it taking anywhere from 3-5 days per month to do those.

e: Also apparently the engine guy is working on PC DX11 this month, so hopefully we'll see it by christmas. Here's hoping!

Nurge fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Jan 12, 2015

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

Same Great Paste posted:

Really enjoy the new Star Trek.

Was playing it today. Really wish I had the capital and skills to make an after market mod for the middle "punch it!" button. A big gently caress-off tough/soft button that you have to SLAM.... Or wire in an electronic boxing dummy or something. Maybe it's a dumb idea... Probably.

If they ever finish the code for that game it has potential to be one of the best.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

mattfl posted:

If you'll notice the sound of the flippers seem louder than normal it's because I have 2 24v Siemens contactors connected to a relay board for real force feedback. I have another 6 contactors on order to add 2 more for the slingshots near the flippers, 3 for the back right bumpers and another one for a bumper/slingshot on the left side of the playfield, should have them wired up this week.

Sweet project.
On the same lines as your feedback stuff do people have physical nudging in any way in these machines, or is it just a few nudge buttons? Accelerometers are pretty cheap these days, but maybe a bitch to integrate with the physics engine?

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
I figured out how to play Bride of Pinbot on the PS4 forever, as long as I don't screw up.



I'm not sure if I should be happy or disappointed that it's become the easiest table I've ever played, even on a TV with 2.5 frames of input lag.

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Gromit posted:

Sweet project.
On the same lines as your feedback stuff do people have physical nudging in any way in these machines, or is it just a few nudge buttons? Accelerometers are pretty cheap these days, but maybe a bitch to integrate with the physics engine?

Actually I forgot to mention that I do have nudge as well. An old microsoft sidewider pro taken apart and hooked up into the computer works great. That functionality is built into visual pinball and it's a true analog nudge function.

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prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

TheMcD posted:

Do you really need a dedicated "instructions guy"? You'd think that wouldn't be so hard. Open up an IPDB rulesheet, copy poo poo down, and move the camera around.

They do a really good job of breaking everything down into the smallest pieces possible. It's overkill if you're in a hurry, but if you're having a tough time figuring out what's going on, it is a massive help to get each target and rule explained with big flashing arrows.

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