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CatsPajamas posted:I agree it would be interesting to see a game story take this route, but I'm not sure Leonard would be the right focus character for this even if he was competent. Cisna taking this role like nine-gear crow has portrayed would also make more a much more interesting story, though it would take some creative gameplay decisions to make her the main player character if she's still going to spend most of the game kidnapped. Actually, with a bit of backstory tweaking and refocusing on him as the main character a suitable villain protagonist might be Eldore. I'll admit I'm curious what a game would be like where you play the kidnapped woman, doubly so if she's actually malicious. I have no idea how you would make that fun to play if you try to pay more than superficial attention to it however. Eldore could basically be the villain protagonist with little to no tweaking. Just take that "plan" of the party to rat out Grazel and have it be serious. Leonard would have to be rewritten from the ground up to work, and definitely needs more than two Cisna-labelled braincells. But hey, all of that is wishful thinking with this game, haha.
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Elric posted:I cannot believe that anyone would subject themself to this game in two runthroughs. Why do you hate yourself so? Because I'm some combination of Vegeta and Bruce Banner at heart: the more insanely angry I get, the stronger I become. 
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I finished the main story for the game over the weekend. I have so many words, and I can't wait to see how the rest of the thread reacts. Also, bravo for playing the game multiple times, as this one play-through is enough for me.
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Music: "The circus begins to come apart at the seams" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pMcY5lWJ45U#t=100    Pandora: Was this the circus you talked about? They are sure being loud... And I cannot make out any words. Those screams... How can humans even sound like this... How... And why is everyone cheering. This is terrible.  Abu Bakr: Great, my day just got better. It sounds like fifty dying men shrieking in agony. In perfect unison. Can we *PLEASE* get the hell out of here? Before I go deaf?  Prometheus: They are being a bit loud, but I can quite clearly hear them sing "There is no God". I'm sure of it. I don't know, I find their music quite soothing, actually. The flutes in particular. Let's go, we have things we need to do. Next comes the usual chewing out, you know the drill. Try to smile. Don't give them the satisfaction. It won't last long. We're almost done.  Music: "Abuse" -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6paAqMXurdA     Chain #1: You are late. You have failed your task. Prometheus: Yes, we know... Prometheus: I humbly ask that you accept the wine and forgive us the delay. Chain #1: No. This cannot stand. This result is unacceptable. Chain #1: The wine you have brought is now aged and turned into vinegar. Chain #2: Vinegar is unfit for the royal table. It must be poured into the sewers. The king's cup shall sooner be filled with vomit than with vinegar. Prometheus: Look, this is-- Chain #2: Silence, punished one. Arrange with the maid to have the wine dumped. Report to Tankard tomorrow and do it over again. Should you succeed, freedom shall be yours.   Pandora: Yes, we shall dump all of it with a smile on our faces. Don't worry, we will with greatest pleasure waste all of this perfectly good wine that is never good enough for you.   Pandora: Bastards. Prometheus, I'm really starting to get fed up with this. Many scary things have happened today and there have been very many changes. I still don't understand many things you have said. Regardless, no matter what is the truth, I'm going to agree with you on everything. Any fate is better than what we have to deal with here. I'm done taking this abuse day after day. Prometheus: Good evening, Painting. Here is the wine. Painting: Thank you. I will serve it at once.  Prometheus: Right... Time to go... Music: "The first taste of the forbidden fruit" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCpk7HIryK0     Pandora: Prometheus, what the hell are you doing? You can't go in there! It's the royal palace of Pride, you cannot just walk in like that! Prometheus: Why? Do you see anyone trying to stop us? What if there is no God to punish me for it? I said I'm done playing by the rules. I feel like I have just woken up from a very long nightmare. My eyes are open and my heart is ready for whatever comes ahead. I know Grigori isn't coming. There are only the two of us left now. Are you willing to come with me, Pan? Abu Bakr: Yes, please go and get yourselves killed. Goodbye and good riddance!.jpg) Abu Bakr: This is giving me a headache. I need a drink.Music: "Tranquil luxury" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Zma8fnltg  Prometheus: Beautiful. The people in charge of the punishment must be very happy to live here. As the clown said, no chains are here to hold us back. We are free to come and go as we please. There is no punishment, except the punishment we choose to accept.              Prometheus: There... Is that... Who is... I remem...                        Prometheus: ...ber now. I met her before. Tankard was showing me around, just after I arrived here. It was a bit awkward. I thought she likes me, but she was only after a butterfly.  Pandora: That must have been a very long time ago. I think you told me about that once ago. It must have been... at least a few hundred thousand years ago, right?  Pandora: Having an infinite memory and aging very slowly is a really bad punishment, but it does have some perks.Music: "The circus begins to come apart at the seams" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pMcY5lWJ45U#t=100       Wisdom: THEREISNOGOD!THEREISNOGOD!THEREISNOGOD!THEREISNOGOD!THEREISNOGOD!THEREISNOGOD!  Wisdom: WHY ARE YOU ALL CHEERING, YOU IDIOTS! Oh, gently caress it. No one is getting it, as usual. I guess it is time to increase the strength of the message. Wisdom: You will all either hear me, or you will die. Heh. Heh. Heh.   Music: "Saints" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjcMrKiplOY   Wisdom: Against the Shadow, I am the Light. Against the Fear, I am the Deed. Against Gods of myth, I am the Might. Come to me, Agatha -- Saint of Fire... I am in need!                      Shrouded Man: Agatha, Agatha... why have you forsaken me?             Man who cast away the shroud: Think not that I have come to introduce peace into the land; I came not to introduce peace, but a sword.  Music: "Tranquil luxury" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Zma8fnltg   Thoth: My noble friends. I thank you all for coming here to celebrate this special day. Thoth: The Wrath scum will fall under our swords! Even now they party and drink downstairs, not knowing what awaits them.  Thoth: Today, we shall take revenge for our lost loved ones! Thoth: We will attack in two hours! We are the force that cannot be withstood! Thoth: GLORY TO PRIDE!   Noble Crowd: Hail Thoth! Hail Pride! Noble Crowd: Hail Thoth! Hail Pride!    Thoth: Hahahaha!  Prometheus: Oh, this is so boring. I thought this would be more fun. Prometheus: There is no one to stop us, but we clearly don't belong here. There is nothing to do. Pandora: The food is good... Pandora: Then again, I do see what you mean, Teddy. Maybe we should get out of here and do something else? Prometheus: Yeah, I'm done here. Let's go. Where do we go now? I'm not going back to Tankard's ever again, but there is nowhere else to go, really...Music: "Bad news lurk in the shadows" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0cTVHdjTu4         Chain: Ambush! Ambush! AMBUSH! Thoth: What? Impossible! We weren't supposed to start yet-- Chain: My Lord, unknown soldiers are killing everyone. They are screaming words which make no sense. Foreigners! Barbarians! They are killing people both from Pride and from Wrath! Women and little chi-- Thoth: WHAT? No. Not foreigners! It's a ruse! A trick! Wrath's ambush! Monsters! They are killing their own men to throw us off their tracks. Kill them all! KILL THEM ALL! BOTH WRATH AND THE BARBARIANS! NOW! KILL! KI--Music: "Saints" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjcMrKiplOY          Agatha -- The saint of fire.    Thoth: What in the name...       Prometheus: What is going on? Pan, stay here. I'm going to make sure it is safe. Pandora: Be careful! I don't want to lose you.   Prometheus: A scourge...? No... Something else, but... Prometheus: I need to get Pan out of here, now...  Link: Siddhartha, you idiot. You were not supposed to attack till eight past one! Goddamn you. Now this is turning into a slaughter. You better not die on me now, or I will never get the titles and lands you promised me for my treason. Link: Chains! Kill everyone who isn't from Pride. KILL! Chains: KIIIILLLLL!!Music: "A wall of swords advances without mercy" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_4ZuLZWRiU                                      Link: Anyone else would like to try? Come to me cowards! Who's next? Come on!
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So...how long are you going to keep going on this? Because, I mean, you've clearly put a ton of work into this but I'm gonna be honest, I just want the actual LP to restart again.
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Mors Rattus posted:So...how long are you going to keep going on this? Because, I mean, you've clearly put a ton of work into this but I'm gonna be honest, I just want the actual LP to restart again. To the title card, if I don't drop this sooner than that. I want the LP to start again too. 
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Crow and I are running three LPs concurrently at the moment. Killzone and Panzer Dragoon are receiving regular updates. The intention is to start WKC2 as soon as Panzer Dragoon finishes. It's only a few updates from finishing, so the wait shouldn't be much longer.
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The real thing that's holding the LP up (outside of real life complications I have no interest in sharing with the broader internet) is that the online quests are so goddamm tedious to play through for the game 1-rewrite post mortem. I'm working on it, however. Like GRRM is working on Winds of Winter...
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nine-gear crow posted:outside of real life complications I have no interest in sharing with the broader internet) i You were cast in the new Star Wars weren't you? Weren't you!?
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Jun 2, 2014 22:28
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He is Kenny Baker's stunt double.
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Blind Sally posted:He is Kenny Baker's stunt double. No, I'm Gwendoline Christie IRL. 
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I loved your work in The Imaginarium Of Doctor Parnassus.
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I am honestly going to say you played this awkward scene well, your Yulie exarpy Pandora is actually rather fun to read because she's not as overblown with silly overly dramatic dialogue as Prometheus, and she actually acted like a teenage girl, who's also apparently an immortal. Also, I adored how you managed to make the circus both funny and serious. You're a great writer.
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I'm not a big fan of most of it, but I do like how you handle the complete disappearance of the avatar from the story 5 minutes in.
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nine-gear crow posted:The real thing that's holding the LP up (outside of real life complications I have no interest in sharing with the broader internet) is that the online quests are so goddamm tedious to play through for the game 1-rewrite post mortem.
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The quests are simply for posterity's sake. I'm going to be presenting them in brief summeriest of each quest largely uncommented on... outside of pointing out the usual stupidity of course. The online quests for the first game are largely unconnected to the over all plot, but it does help sell the narrative of "Orren Wanderer, Travelling Mercenary".
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You run around killing reskinned enemies. It is dull and grindy. I think we get the picture.
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The man's replayed this game three times now. Let him have his way. It's part of the therapy recommended for all survivors of White Knight Chronicles.
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Two more after this one, the end of this trainwreck is in sight! And this one is probably the worst installment to date. ------------------------ Music: "Profoundly wrong" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQCg-uHOrZk#t=5      Thoth: I'm so sorry. This is not how things are meant to happen. We need to leave. .jpg) Thoth: Please don't be afraid. I will protect you. You are safe with me.     Thoth: I-Impossible! You... How...      Seshat: NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Seshat: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! DAAAAD! Seshat: Nononono--  Thoth: Save... yourself. Seshat: Dad, No!  Thoth: run... Seshat: No, I... It... *sob* No... It's over. Seshat: What are you waiting for? Strike. I'm ready. Do it!    Music: "I will save you!" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWH9CpevJ3I        Prometheus: Get moving! Go!   Seshat: Let go of me! Help! Prometheus: Be quiet! Don't attract attention. I'm trying to save your life. Seshat: But...  Prometheus: Quick! This way! Move!      Prometheus: I want to get you out of here alive. Maybe you can help us.  Music: "A tense moment" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-4Jpm0P2C6E#t=4  Link: Siddhartha... drat you. Why did you have to...   Chain: This is how we found him. He knew of our plans, said we attacked ahead of schedule. Also, he was cursing you out with his last breath. Is there something you need to tell us, Link Judas? Judas: This... There was a terrible mistake. I'm sorry. I will give a full report and submit to any punishment that awaits me. I give you my word. Please let me continue to fight. We need to defend the king and the city. Chain: Link Judas! Link Judas! The king is dead, slain by the barbarians!  Judas: It cannot be... No... I refuse to accept that. NO!Music: "Seshat's royal theme" -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjAYc7NShR8        Prometheus: We have to keep going. Get up.  Seshat: Who are you? What do you want from me? Why... Prometheus: I'm Prometheus. Primarily, I'm trying to save you. I'm also looking for a way out of this afterlife and I'm hoping-- Seshat: I remember you. In the castle...   Prometheus: Yes, we have met before. It was a long time ago though. Prometheus: Now, please. You are now the ruler of the city. Tell me, is it within your power to grant passage to the outside of this land?Music: "The new Compassion" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih14mJzKzKM  Seshat: And here I thought you just wanted to help me. Of course, why should I expect selfless kindness from you? I just had my father killed right in front of me, why should I deserve any compassion? What is wrong with you? Selfish! Listen, I don't know for sure, but I don't think there is anything outside of this land. The nobility of the city is also being punished. Every single one of us. Even me. Every night in my dreams I see my dead mother screaming as she dies. Starting from today, I'm quite sure I will see my father being slain as well. And just like the other punished, I cannot forget a thing. Every awkward moment. Every mistake. I remember it all. And now, I will remember this for the rest of my days. I'm in pain, and you won't give me a minute to grieve. You don't care about me, you just want something. Even if I could, I'm not going to help you. Not after this treatment. Prometheus: Even you... Prometheus: We will have to sort it out later. For now let's get you out of here. I'm sorry... I did not realise that you too... I'm desperate. I need to find a way out. Prometheus: We should go. We must press forward.    Music: "Saints" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjcMrKiplOY       Man who cast away the shroud: And you did open your mouth for evil-speaking toward God, to speak evil of his name. Your soul is already almost thrown into fire eternal.  Man who cast away the shroud: Messenger also, the one who did not keep his own principality, but did leave his proper dwelling... That one was put in chain infinite and cast underground. You must not go there, for both the power and the corruption there is great.   Prometheus: Power? I think I could use some of that right about now. Thanks for the tip! Let’s go! Downstairs!         Music: "Grigori, the watcher" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOA-2hl1Vbc  Pandora: Teddy... Teddy! Help... Help... Ah... Someone! HELP! ANYONE!   Chain: AAAAAAaaaa...          Man who cast away the shroud: When you walk in a valley of death-shade, fear no evil, for a watcher is with you. Sharp-eyed, he has has cried out for me to do justice on your behalf. And now, as torrential waters comes my judgement and my righteousness as a perennial stream. Rise, be not afraid.  Pandora: *sob* I... I... *sob* Yes. Thank you.  Pandora: A... watcher? A... guardian angel!? Is this warmth burning next to my heart...
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Hell, I'm enjoying it. WKC being a crazy story about the afterlife beats the hell out of what it actually is.
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BrightWing posted:Hell, I'm enjoying it. WKC being a crazy story about the afterlife beats the hell out of what it actually is. How would you make it worse?
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ultrafilter posted:How would you make it worse? Don't tempt me.
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ultrafilter posted:How would you make it worse?
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Elric posted:Insert an absurdly hard and tedius Rhythm game near the end of the game that you need to beat in order to progress. Afterwards, the game kicks you in the balls. You, not your character. When in doubt comparing lovely video game endings, remember Drakengard.
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You know, I genuinely enjoy this and really hope you can be persuaded to continue your story. Compared to the actual plot of this game, your rewriting has turned this into the equivalent of crack cocaine, in that it is near addicting to read.
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AnAnonymousIdiot posted:You know, I genuinely enjoy this and really hope you can be persuaded to continue your story. Compared to the actual plot of this game, your rewriting has turned this into the equivalent of crack cocaine, in that it is near addicting to read. Indeed. I am in awe at reading this. It's crazy and I love it. I can see some issues with the... zanier bits of the game, but drat is this story dragging my attention to it completely. And after all, Nine-Gear-Crow isn't posting till Panzer Dragoon is finished. Maybe just ask for his blessing and then continue at your own pace.
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Gosh. Thanks for all the kind words, everyone. I guess we will see how it goes. At least two episodes left in here, maybe more later in a less intrusive format/thread/place. Things will be slow though. For now I got a new job in my labor union (Kids, don't joke run for an elected post, it may turn out to be uncontested!), am drowning in homework and we are entering bargaining in... 13 minutes. Wait. What am I doing here, typing this out when I should be preparing for
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BIG GODDAMN GENERAL THREAD ANNOUNCEMENT TIME! Because of a general lack of interest in anything outside of the stupid main game plot by the thread in general, I'm holding off on the online quest stuff and will be going straight into game 2 instead. ...Also because I don't feel like screencapping and commenting on any of that tedious poo poo. This means that White Knight Chronicles II will be LIVE later tonight. This also means I have to do the thing I'm usually loathe to do and make a decree as OP / Guy Who's Running This LP: While I appreciate the effort you're putting into this rewrite, No Gravitas, now that the actual LP is beginning again, can I ask you to post all subsequent updates to it as links to LPix SSLP testpost pages? You're more than welcome to keep doing it and I'm thrilled you're sticking it out, but I'd just prefer to not have it interfere with the actual LP, and to keep the number of posts with giant fuckloads of images per page to a minimum for the sake of peoples' internet / mobile usage. Thanks again for all your hard work and I may very well get you a Platinum upgrade for it for your trouble too just because you actually did the thing I jokingly asked this thread to do. Cheers everyone! The madness resumes... soon.
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nine-gear crow posted:The madness resumes... soon. Awesome!
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 In which that one subplot from the start of the first game comes roaring back to relevance 40 hours after you’d forgotten it existed in the first place. And so our collective torment resumes apace as I step bravely back into hell after a brief respite and drag the rest of you along with me because I’m as much of a sadist as I am a masochist. Oh well, at least this game has 100% more Troy Baker in it than the previous game did, so we have that to help lube the shaft a little. Although given the way the video game industry has been going these last five years, if a franchise goes on for long enough, the latest entry into it is pretty much guaranteed to have 100% more Troy Baker in it than previous entries. See: BioShock, InFamous, Mass Effect, Saints Row, Persona, Final Fantasy, Call of Duty, Metal Gear Solid, Diablo, God of War, Halo—I’ve run this joke into the ground, haven’t I? Alright. Fine. gently caress. Let’s get this over with. This… Is… White Knight Chronicles II!   CUTSCENE: It Begins Again CUTSCENE MUSIC: Ancient Heartbeat ~ Monologue (Disc 2, Track 22)  Cisna: Just pretend your reading these in my voice or something. I don’t give a poo poo…We begin the second game proper with a brief monologue by Cisna recapping the first game in an extremely vague manner.  Cisna: But I’ll settle his dumb rear end, just give me another week.   CUTSCENE MUSIC: Night Fight (Game 2 OST, Track 9) We start things in inside the Archduchy of Faria, a place only referenced in the first game and—HOLY poo poo! Look at all that fire! He did it! The son of a bitch did it! CYRUS STARTED A loving WAR!!!  Nah, I’m just loving with you again. We’re not gonna see Cry-rus again until halfway through the game. This, good little children of the Internet, is the latest explosion of the Farian Civil War that has apparently been raging for some time now beyond the sphere of knowledge of our… Nope, still can’t call them heroes.  The brave soldiers of the Farian Army stand guard over the entrance to the Numenshrine, the most important place in the entire Archduchy, though we won’t find out why it’s so important until later.   Farian Captain: Huh? Allied soldiers come running through the town in retreat…  But an explosion behind them sends them flying.   Out of the flames come running the soldiers of the fabled Farian Red Guard, glimpsed all the way back at the start of the first game as part of Archduke Dalam’s LOOK AT ME YOU WORTHLESS PEASENTS I AM YOU NEW GOD parade. They have since reformed into the Red Army, the fighting force of those loyal to Ban Nanazel. In short: in the year since Archduke Dalam’s assassination at Balandor Castle, the War Faction that Sarvain/Ledom mentioned in passing, led by Ban Nanazel, began a hostile takeover of Faria from within. After some time of pointless political squabbling, Nanazel apparently said “gently caress it,” and just started up and murdering all the other boyars on the Farian council and taking over Faria with martial force. The game isn’t going to explain any of this to you for the next 20 minutes, so I thought I’d just get it out of the way now.  “And then the script just says ‘you used this joke once already’” – George Lucas       So the game wastes no time in re-establishing the order of “the heroes are incompetent” by having the Red Army soldiers pretty much slaughter the Farian loyalists.   Something tells me this guy is about to get George R.R. Martin Prologue Character’d.     But before that can happen a goddamn spear whooshes out of nowhere…  And impales this dude square in the chest.  Farian Captain: Deus ex Machina?!No, it’s something even better: TROY BAKER!   Out of the night, when the full moon is bright…  ‘Comes the horseman known as (That’s pronounced “Scar-dine”. The G is silent, apparently.)  And not a moment too soon for this guy’s liking.  The Red Army archers take aim at the mysterious rider in the blue armour.    But using the power of Being Voiced by Troy Baker, the mysterious warrior swats away the arrows like they were nothing.   And then he leaps over this poor schmuck just to try and be dramatic.  He bowls over the Red Army archers for good measure too.   Scardigne charges through the throng of enemy soldiers, mowing them down with swing after swing of his sword.   Scardigne: I’m sorry. WHO doesn’t have poo poo on you, Nolan?  Undaunted, however, the Red Army sends in its heavies. A squad of dragoons come marching through the town towards the Numenshrine.  Scardigne: It’s time.  Scardigne gives the signal…  And a flare goes shooting up into the sky.   Scardigne: Retreat! Fall back and regroup! Run away! Run away!   Well, we’re off to a smashing start already, eh?  CUTSCENE: Red vs Blue Meanwhile, across the city…  Scardigne comes marching through the upper level of the tower and some Farian soldiers salute him as he passes.    Scardigne: Ban Lorias! The Western Ward has been lost.   Ban Lorias: I see. Farian Captain: drat that Nanazel! Farian Captain: Starting a civil war! Has Faria not bled enough? Ban Lorias: It seems the Archduke’s death was but the preface to a deeper grief.The young woman beside him sighs in deep pain. This is Miu, Archduke Dalam’s granddaughter and heir to the Farian throne. The man with her is Ban Lorias, leader of the Farian council and one of Dalam’s most trusted boyars. The local rulers of Faria use the outmoded Slavic title “Ban” (pronounced Baan, with a long a, as opposed to ban, as in  ) rather than Lord, like they would in Balandor.Lorias is acting as the interim ruler of Faria at the moment, as Miu is legally eligible to assume the throne by this point, but has thus far refused the position for… reasons. I don’t know. I’m also not sure why she’s Dalam’s granddaughter instead of his daughter. I’m just going to assume that she’s an orphan whose parents, or at least whose father was a casualty of the War of the Two Kingdoms, thus removing him from the line of succession. This isn’t even touched on in the game itself, but the way. It’s all conjecture on my part.  Ban Lorias: The battle will soon be upon us. General, I must ask you to escort Miu out of the city. Ban Lorias: Father Yggdra has placed his trust in you. Now into your hands, I place our future.  Miu: What?! But I cannot leave you here. Ban Lorias: Miu, the Archduke left you in my care for a reason. Ban Lorias: Your grandfather insisted that you remain safe. Ban Lorias: Remember, you are the only one who can carry on in his place. Ban Lorias: …Unless someone figures out a better system than nepotism. Miu: Ban Lorias… Miu: I will never be the leader he was. Aww, you’ve disappointed Croatian/Spanish/Japanese/Elvish Gandalf the White.  Ban Lorias: Guard her well, General Scardigne. Scardigne: With my life. CUTSCENE MUSIC: “Ban Nanazel” (Unreleased Track) Though really I feel it should be this track here. Because Soul Stalkers is such a kick rear end “evil guys plotting stuff” track… And the only decent thing about Musashi: Samurai Legend was its soundtrack. But now, on the other side of Faria, we meet the character I’ve been teasing since all the way back at the beginning of the first game. The one, the only, the actually pretty underwhelming… Ban Nanazel!   Ban Nanazel: Capture Lorias and Miu at once and bring them to me! If they prove uncooperative… Ban Nanazel: Kill them both!  Red Army Captains: Yes sir!  Nanazel stands there stroking his pointy villain beard, hoping desperately that some of that “villains in this game are disturbingly competent” mojo rubs off on him and he actually does kill Lorias and Miu.   Shapur: Ha ha hah. Well done, Ban. You do know how to take a city.Oh great, the character murdering charisma vacuum is here too. Well, at least Patchy has more to do in this game than stand around holding up the scenery and TK’ing more interesting villains.  Ban Nanazel: Yes, well, tell your master his generous aid is appreciated. Once Lorias and the last tower fall, Faria shall be reborn. Ban Nanazel: Though I certainly would not dare imply that Lord Grazel’s troops can be bought with mere compliments. Ban Nanazel: Ha ha ha ha haaah!BAN NANAZEL IS LOVING THIS poo poo.  Shapur: Oh, no reward will be needed. Shapur: It was always His Excellency’s wish that Faria be reborn anew. Your impressive victory will be more than adequate payment. Okay, so no we know that Yshrenia’s kind of expediting this whole “kill everyone who doesn’t agree with me” plan Nanazel’s been working on for the past year or so. Good to know. At least we now have, in theory, a thread of connection to the main plot to make us care about whatever the hell is going on here in Elfheim.      This is a new addition to White Knight Chronicles II, these little subtitled non-cutscene interludes between playable parts of the game. They’re very brief and usually tell you where you need to go or what developments you might have missed for plot contrivance reasons. They’re not on the level of Xenosaga Episode III “entire cutscenes done with the in-game engine because, oh poo poo, Namco’s cut our funding and wants to bury this series as quickly as possible” type stuff, but it’s caressing the surface of those depths.   In some regards, the game is better paced than its predecessor, as we get to actual gameplay this time around after about five minutes of cutscenes instead of nearly twenty in the first game. Although seeing as how this is simply a direct continuation of the same story from the first game, there’s not as much setup that needs to be laid out this time around. So as you can see here, we get to have Scardigne as a playable character temporarily in this extended prologue bit here. We also get Miu as a guest character. They’re both leveled at level 35, which is about the level the game expects you to be at coming out of the fight with Black Usurper at the end of game 1.  Scardinge is essentially a better version of Leonard. His default weapon is a short sword, the Silver Sabretooth, a non-standard weapon that can be bought at the Dahlia Exchange at any Adventurer’s Guild for 30 Dahlia, or bound at any Binding Post for 300 gold and either a +3 Sai and 3 Wind Dragon Beards, or a +3 Talwar and a +3 Grandsword.  He also sports a unique set of armour, the Azulhawk set, which you can’t de-equip or swap out for another armour set. It’s so you can’t go peeking to see who or what is under that helmet outside of this, anyway.  Miu, meanwhile, is about on par with Yulie, and like default Yulie, wields a bow and arrow as her primary weapon. She’s equipped with a Gilded Bow and can do some pretty decent damage for the brief time in the game she gets to use it. So thankfully she’s more useful than Cisna is as a guest character… not that I would ever impugn the name of Our Most Magnanimous and Terrifying God-Empress of All Creation, Long May She Reign. Miu’s clothing, including her scarf, were at one point bindable through the game’s crazy online guild economy, but are now locked down to the bowels of the game’s code, accessible only via a PS3 Game Genie, as is Scardigne’s armour set, for that matter.  So we need to fight our way through a squad of Red Army troops to reach the next cutscene.  As you can see, Scardigne has some tier 1 and tier 2 physical attacks, but since we’re facing humanoid enemies, they’re all immune to critical damage anyway, so it doesn’t really matter what attacks you use on them. Scardigne also has Heal and Cure spells for damage and poison remedies, but little else. Miu only has attack skills, so don’t expect her to be the stereotypical background support character who focuses on healing instead of dealing damage. Miu is not Margie Fatima. Miu is not your white mage. Miu is actually kind of  when she gets going.  CUTSCENE: The Escape   As the pair run into the gate plaza, Miu spots something in the distance. Miu: Ahh! Miu: No! …Ban Lorias.  Scardigne hears something, however.   A gigas! Hooray… these assholes are back.  Scardigne: Lady Miu!  Miu: AAAAAAH!   Red Army Soldiers: Over here! Hurry!  Scardigne: Urgh. Red Army Captain: Come, friends!  Red Army Captain: Lay down your weapons and surrender.  Scardigne: Make me… friend. Red Army Captain: Hmph. Red Army Captain: KILL THEM! Suddenly, Scardinge’s horse whinnies in the distance.     The gigas rears his sword back again.   Jeez, I think this freakin’ horse has taken out more Red Army soldiers than the actual Farian Army has so far.    And now we get to see Scardigne pull off some Legolas moves.   He grabs onto his trusty steed’s bridal and sweeps a hand behind Miu, scooping her up in his momentum.  Well, I think someone just became a woman. Miu: My virginity!…Not sure that’s how that works, but okay.  The gigas’s sword comes crashing down on nothing as Scardinge absconds with Miu safely in tow.    Red Army Captain: What?!    So yeah, Miu’s had kind of a lovely night so far. Not quite as lovely a night as Cisna’s 18th birthday party was, but still pretty lovely in the grand scheme of nights in general.   Red Army Captain: drat. Red Army Captain: After them!!  CUTSCENE: Cisna Recaps the First Game For Us CUTSCENE MUSIC: Recollection (Disc 1, Track 14) Meanwhile, in Blandor… I mean Balandor.   Somehow, probably because she needs them again for the first time in a solid year, Leonard and Eldore have been allowed back into Balandor Castle. We see Leonard in his natural position in life; meekly prostrate before his superiors, in this case Queen Cisna.   Cisna: Urgh. Here we go again, huh? How many people died on your way up the stairs? Leonard: Uuh… Cisna: I was being rhetorical. Eldore: Seventeen… The screams, my gods, the screams… Leonard: Duur. I’m helping.Still doing the creepy obsessive stare thing, are ya dumbass? Well, at least she’s not getting kidnapped this game… I hope.  Cisna: I’m glad you could all be here. Cisna: …Technically. Cisna: We have much to discuss. Right now, the world faces a crisis: invasion by the Yshrenian Empire. Cisna: A year ago, Grazel claimed the Ark of the Sun King from the Dogma Rift… Cisna: He’s still a total pussy though. Cisna: And he and his army have proclaimed themselves the second coming of Yshrenia… Cisna: …declaring war against all the nations of the world.  Cisna: At the same time, Sarvain, our chancellor, has disappeared. Defected, by all reports, to the Yshrenian Empire, where he is known as High Priest Cisna: Someone I’m Going To Enjoy Killing—oops, thinking out loud, again. I mean High Priest Cisna: Ledom. Eldore: Mmuh?Eldore just woke up from his mid-lecture power nap. Then again, he knows all this stuff after having lived through it in the last game. Cisna’s just doing this to get Leonard up to speed because he has a well-documented 2-second memory.  Cisna: During our battles with Grazel’s forces, the world lost three of its finest and most noble leaders: Cisna: …Who weren’t me, at least. Cisna: Archduke Dalam of Faria… Cisna: Count Drisdall of Greede… Cisna: Any my father, King Valtos of Balandor.All of whose deaths you can technically pin on Leonard, if you wanted to make the logical leaps.   Cisna: But, this only means we must rise and take action in their place. Cisna: Leonard, will you travel to Faria and meet with Father Yggdra? Leonard: And who exactly is that? Eldore: You’re sending the lad to confer with a ghost, Queen Cisna? Father Yggdra fought alongside Queen Mureas in the war with Yshrenia ten millennia ago. Eldore: He would have to be naught but dust.Also, a minor terminology note. For whatever reason, the characters in the script still refer to Cisna as Princess Cisna, even though she’s officially Queen now. However, all the non-voiced NPCs you encounter explicitly refer to her as Queen Cisna whenever they reference her, so I’m making the judgement call and giving her her proper title, game script be damned. If you want to her everyone still call her Princess Cisna, watch the cutscenes.  Cisna: But Queen Mureas sleeps within me, and she says that we must find him.Yeah, because if there’s something we absolutely need to do, its follow the plans of the genocidal tyrant spirit living inside your precious little head. Ya know, we never actually get to meet Queen Mureas in-game in any form, but I get the feeling that if we did she’d sound like Rita Replusa. Cisna: AAAAH! After ten thousand years, I’m free! It’s time to CONQURE EARTH! Zordon: Alpha! My daughter’s escaped! Recruit a team of teenagers with marginal intelligence! Cisna: Leonard, the Knight’s power accepts you. I’m certain Father Yggdra will do the same. Cisna: (She said without laughing once)Actually, if you watch the video she honestly, audibly hesitates for a moment before she says “certain.” She knows how much of a gently caress up he really is. It’s the little moments like these in Kari Walhgren’s portrayal of her that open the door for me to portray Cisna as utterly ambivalent-bordering-on-disgusted with Leonard as much as I do. The script is saying one thing and her acting is saying something completely different.   Leonard: Alright Cisna, I will find him. Cisna: Try not to get anyone killed on your—you know what gently caress it, just make sure they all die screaming my name or something. And with that pointless recap and plot burp out of the way, the Shahgna lifts off taking the party to go do what they probably should have done a year ago.  I don’t really know what the reason for the one year time skip was, especially how, visually and thematically, it feels like only a week has passed since the end of the first game.  But whatever.      AREA MUSIC: “ Aboard the Shahgna” (Unreleased Track) And then we get control of Team Caesar Went Back to Greede So Life Has No Meaning Anymore aboard the Shahgna itself. Sadly, I don’t really explore the bridge of the Shahgna all that much in this update because this is the only time we actually get to walk around it, though you see some decent angles of it in the upcoming cutscenes. Suffice to say, there’s a training dummy you can use to reset your characters’ skills if you haven’t progressed further than Level 35, and a Papitaur merchant onboard from whom you can purchase the same equipment you could from the travelling merchant Johann in Sinca Village at the end of the first game. There’s also one more thing we find on the Shahgna’s bridge that’s exclusive to this LP: our new Avatar! Leonard: Wow, Orren, you’ve shrunk… And you’ve turned into a white guy with blond hair. Marcell: Beg pardon, Master Leonard? Leonard: Uuhh… Who are you again? Marcell: I’m Marcell, remember? We spoke extensively on the flight here to Faria. Leonard: I don’t really— Marcell: Oh, dearest me, there I go again. Forgive me, Master Leonard. You lead such a wondrous life of adventure and action, I suppose such smaller things tend to get lost in these big moments, now don’t they. Please, think nothing of it. Leonard: So you’re not the angry guy who hits me every time I says Cisna’s name or do kill someone accidentally? Marcell: Dear gods, no! I would never strike you for uttering the name of Her Beloved Majesty! Leonard: Wow. Okay. Marcell: As I said earlier, I have been assigned to your retinue by Her Grace the Queen in lieu of the young man you call Orren, who mysteriously vanished without a trace last year after he received his bounty for the rescue of Her Grace. Leonard: He told me to gently caress off and die… Marcell: Indeed. He sounds like a most vulgar and distasteful man. I hope to the gods I never meet him or I’d give him what for! Leonard: So you’re our new Orren? Marcell: It would appear so, Master Leonard. Yulie: Run you dumb rear end in a top hat, run. Marcell: Oh heavens! I am just so excited. I’ve heard the tales of your exploits. Your mastery over the legendary White Knight is exemplary! They say you rescued Her Grace from that villain Grazel singlehandedly. Yulie: …Sure, let’s go with that then. Leonard: Well, I don’t mean to brag, but Cisna kind of entrusted this mission to me personally. Yulie: Because Caesar told her to piss off. Marcell: I can’t wait to see you in action, Master Leonard. To think that here I am alongside part of Balandor’s glorious history. This will be a grand adventure!Well, I think he’s a welcome change of pace from sourpuss swearmeister Orren and his inevitable rage stroke.  Also, because the game wants to make sure you can see the middle finger it’s giving you from space, Rocco is the person Cisna apparently hand-picked to the Shahgna’s pilot. Let that sink in for a moment. Rocco. Falls off a cliff, crashes his glider, eaten by greavers, left for dead, worst luck in the universe Rocco… Is piloting the most sophisticated piece of transportation hardware on the planet… Are you trying to get a crashed airship at some point in this game? Because that’s how you get a crashed airship at some point in this game.    CUTSCENE: The Eye in the Sky So we catch up with Scardigne and Miu in the B-Plot apparently having spent all of the previous night and day riding away from the Red Army if it’s now gone from night to day to twilight over the last three scenes. I guess he’s got one of those clichéd inexhaustible golem horses from every trite fantasy novel you’ve ever read where the author has no idea how horses work.   And of course the Red Army is hot on their heels.         But it looks as though our A-Plot and B-Plots are about to comingle with one another as the Shahgna flies overhead.    So yeah, this is the party we start game 2 with, no Kara because she’s dead and no Caesar for bullshit plot reasons, and no Orren for reasons no one cares about. Yulie and the Avatar are still there for no reason at all, as are Leonard and Eldore, who have slightly more valid reasons for being there, one being the alleged master of the White Knight and the other being an alleged expert on all things Dogma Era Bullshit related.  Eldore’s Old Man sense tingles suddenly and he looks out the window at just the right moment.  Eldore: Hmm? What’s this? Leonard: What? Trouble? Eldore: Trouble, perhaps. Eldore: Rocco, the screen. Rocco: Aye-aye! He beeps and boops on his little knobs, probably miming like he’s doing someone while someone else at another console who actually knows what they’re doing actually brings up the screen.   A little cursor appears complete with sounds blatantly ripped off from Star Trek: The Next Generation to boot.    It picks up the chase scene and we get a little Enhance/Magnify magic work while we’re at it.     Why hello there, B-Plot. Lovely evening for a stroll, ain’t it?  Yulie: Some kind of chase? Rocco: Gosh… I wonder what’s going on down there. Eldore: So do I. Well, Leonard? Eldore: I almost forgot I need to prompt you to take action or you’ll never get off your rear end. Leonard: Rocco, let’s go! Rocco: Roger that!     And then Rocco ploughed the Shahgna into the trees by accident and they all died. The End.  CUTSCENE: The So-Called “Good Guys” CUTSCENE MUSIC: Night Fight (Track 9) – Second half of the song. I should point out that Scardigne isn’t riding a fancy fantasy unicorn elf horse, he’s riding a normal white horse with a crazy horned head accoutrement. Because Faria’s thing is horns, lest we forget. I don’t really know why you would put something like that there, especially something that has a serrated edge facing the rider so that if the horse comes to a sudden stop, as they’re want to do for various reason at times, the rider goes flying towards said serrated object thanks to momentum. It’s not for offensive purposes, I can tell you that, because horses aren’t exactly known for headbutting people or charging into battle with their heads at any angle where that horn would become an impalement danger to anyone immediately in its path. So, yeah, the design of things without any thought behind them continues unabated from the end of the last game.  The Red Army archers ready their bows.     Alas, Scardigne’s noble steed takes a few arrows to the rump and goes down hard, sending him and Miu hurtling through the grass.     Red Army Captain: Heheheheh.  Well poo poo. 
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  Miu: Aah!  End of the road, folks.   Red Army Captain: Hmph! Red Army Captain: You have had your fun.  Red Army Captain: Surrender quietly… and I will spare your pathetic lives.  Red Army Captain: Unless, of course, you would prefer to meet the same end as Lorias? Miu: No! But… Miu: But he was just protecting me…  Red Army Captain: My patience is at an end. Red Army Captain: Aim for the girl. Scardigne: Grr. Scardigne and Miu prepare for the end. …Oh who are we kidding, we all know dumbass is about to swoop in any second now. The question is just how many people is he going to get killed accidentally this time?  Red Army Captain: Fire— The wind kicks up suddenly…  Red Army Captain: UAGH!!! What now?! It’s Big drat …Sort-of-Protagonist time.    This is the face of a man who has just shat his elvish pantaloons.   Rocco: Every man there go back inside, or we will blow a new crater in this little moon.     Or just fly away without doing anything.     Tada! Team Idiot is on the case!   Look at that face. Death has come to Faria.   Scardigne: Ah?! Red Army Captain: Who would DARE to interfere?! All my worst nightmares at once…  Leonard: We’re the good guys!(I wrote without picking up my monitor and throwing it at another living being as hard I could.)  CUTSCENE MUSIC: Tense Battle (Disc 1, Track 30)     Red Army Captain: Kill them! Kill them all!  BOSS BATTLE: Red Army Soliders & Gigases (with commentary by nine-gear crow and Blind Sally) And here we get out first sort-of boss battle. Though because this is a plot battle there’s little risk of actually dying in it. What this is, however, is a soft-preview of online quests in the second game, which open up your online party size to six people and allow you to use your own Incorruptus after you get one for your Avatar.  Because these guys are all humanoid, again there’s no weaknesses to exploit. That said, having five level 35 characters instead of just three does make this fight go very quickly.       CUTSCENE: Old Tricks Red Army Captain: You… medelsome! He whips out a familiar-looking card from his back pocket.  Whoom! Red Army Captain: Very well! Leonard: Ah, that old trick!  Red Army Captain: Adveni!    Leonard: O Wizel… Leonard: White warrior… Leonard: Wielder of the ancient sword…  Leonard: Grant me your power…     Leonard: Verto!   CUTSCENE MUSIC: The White Knight (Disc 1, Track 13)              It’s nice to know the game has become so blasé to gigases in general that not only is LEONARD of all people openly mocking the concept of gigas transformation, it’s also using them as a tutorial battle for Knight combat for people coming into the game here without having played the first game.  If you’ve been paying attention to my gameplay tips throughout this LP you should already know how to deal with these two a-holes. They’re gigases: stab the gently caress out of them until they die.  More specifically, line them up so you hit both of them at once to get this fight over even quicker.   These two gigases are programed so that they have the same defense and HP stats as normal gigases of their level, but a very terrible attack stat. I’m talking like they’re doing 6 or 7 damage per hit, and I’m playing with a fresh, unmodded new game file for this part of the LP. You almost literally cannot lose this fight.       CUTSCENE: Into the Woods  The gigases go down.  I suppose I’m feeling something in the vicinity of happiness right now… I don’t know. I think this game damaged the part of my brain that governs positive emotions. It also gave me Herpes.  Miu is impressed. Miu has not met Leonard yet. She’ll get over that very quickly.  With the actual danger over, the Shaghna returns to the cliffside.       CUTSCENE MUSIC:    Miu: Incredible. So you traveled all the way from Balandor to seek an audience with Father Yggdra? Leonard: Yeah. That’s the idea.We’re on a mission from  Eldore: But we didn’t expect to cross any battlefields to find him. Eldore: When did civil war break out in Faria? Scardigne: Soon after Archduke Dalam’s passing, Ban Nanazel rose against his fellow boyars to seize absolute power. Scardigne: You woman with me is the Archduke’s granddauther, Lady Miu, whom I am honour-bound to keep safe. Eldore: Those were Gigantes. Yshrenia must be involved in this somehow. Miu: Yes. Leonard: But do we know what they want? Miu: There is the Knight. The one Father Yggdra keeps locked away.DUN DUN DUUUUN!  Yulie: A Knight?! Eldore: The fifth. So they’re looking for it… Leonard: We’d better land and continue to Faria on foot. The aerial approach isn’t exactly subtle. Marcell: A most excellent idea, Master Leonard!  Miu: Please, take me with you. Scardigne: My lady Miu! Is that wise? Miu: Yes. I belong with my countrymen.And the number of character with more admirable charaterizions than Leonard grows by plus two.  Leonard: Alright, sure.While Leonard remains the same aww shucks rube he was since the start of the game.  Eldore: Rocco, return to Balandor and tell Queen Cisna what has happened. Rocco: Aye-aye, sir! Eldore: And try not to crash into anything while you’re at it…  CUTSCENE MUSIC: “New Allies” (Unreleased Track)  
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Scardine sounds like the name of Al Pacino's fish. That helmet looks like it could pry open a can of sardines pretty easily. What is with Miu's horns they look like someone dumped two blobs of toothpaste on her head. Her minty fresh hair doesn't help either. Know who she looks like? Zelkova from the .hack//GU games. He also had minty fresh hair, horns on his head, and a white outfit. Nanazel looks like someone tried to make a Kefka without understanding what made Kefka a good villain. Everyone looks like they're a loving frosted cupcake. I can't tell if all the horns are some stupid decoration for the helmets, or if those are their own horns in which case how the hell do they put on their helmets? How the hell did Grazel get a freaking army and the Yshrenian Empire sprung up overnight? Was the cult that loving big? What's Cisna been doing in the past year? Was Count Drisdall a casualty? Did I forget he was assassinated or something? I thought he was just old and sick and died. And he died before the party even knew about Grazel, let alone "fought in a battle against his forces" so how can they say Drisdall was a participant? It'd be hilarious if they'd pulled a Weekend At Bernie's between games. I can't believe they're just letting Leonard go like that. I mean it's not like as a Knight user he's still a target for assassination, right? Welcome, Marcell. I only hope you soon find as much sense as Orren and get the hell out of dodge before Leonard kills you with his stupidity. He's good at that. The horn on the horse is for sticking post-it notes to. "When did civil war break out in Faria?" asks Eldore, after it's been a year since Cisna's been crowned queen so he should have been on top of such current events. Or at the very least brush up before deciding to go there. Oh yeah, gently caress! A Knight! There are five of those and we only have four accounted for! Golly, we should have been looking for the last one this past year or something instead of sitting around playing sudoku! White Knight Chronicles II sure knows how to start a game. Just bends over and shits in its own mouth.
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And the worst part is that so much of it would be mostly fixed if it had been three weeks since the previous game.
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Gotta say I'm disappointed that Orren isn't going to be around anymore, but I do look forward to seeing Marcell's heroic image of Leonard shatter against the reality.
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Hahahaha, I can't stop laughing at everything. This game. This stupid goddamned game.
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I don't know poo poo about archery but this looks like some seriously bad form. More with the positions of their right hands, than the way they seem to have their eyes closed.
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Nice to see the second part of this insanity finally started. You made a couple mistakes though. Ban isn't pronounced with a long a. If it was it would sound like bane, which according to the wikipedia article you linked it doesn't. Also, you have a broken spoiler tag in the second half of your double post. VagueRant posted:I don't know poo poo about archery but this looks like some seriously bad form. More with the positions of their right hands, than the way they seem to have their eyes closed. Honestly, I've seen a lot worse in video games. This form isn't too far off. The right hand ought to be closer to the face, otherwise your gonna shoot it off at an angle. I have no clue why he's pointing with his left hand, that's a pretty lovely way to grip the bow. Also, I don't know why he's doing the pointing thing with his left hand as well, at first I thought he was part way through firing, but that doesn't make sense because you should let go with all of your fingers at once. Obscil fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Jun 6, 2014 |
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So, how long until crow drops the ruse and Orren comes back? Taking all bets!  Scardigne looks like he escaped from one of the Souls games. His armour is like Samurai biker gear.  (Also, look at those massive pauldrons.) Aside from that, it sure seems like WKC2 is going to be more of the same, only worse because it involves not-elves.
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VagueRant posted:
Well the forward arm is good. But... something about how they're drawing them does look off. With the angle they're pulling the bow back it looks like it's just going to shoot off to the side instead of straight forward. Edit: Beaten like leonard on one of Orren's blind rages.
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