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dis astranagant posted:Chaosno750risk with the all the burnouts I'm not that crazy. e: I kinda hope the Everhate command to add four berserkers to the tree that only get added once the BERSERKERRISK cut-off hits. apostateCourier fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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The one iOS change I never understood is that the Defender sword can't be used as an item to cast Protect anymore. I mean it can't have been a glitch, so why remove that?
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Jun 8, 2016 14:30
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Twelve by Pies posted:The one iOS change I never understood is that the Defender sword can't be used as an item to cast Protect anymore. I mean it can't have been a glitch, so why remove that?  Does it still at least have its weapon block trait?
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Jun 8, 2016 14:35
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Yes, it does, but I still can't figure out why it can't cast Protect anymore, unless that's a new glitch. Looking at a thread from GameFAQs some other changes are: !Kick ignores Row, is not boosted by Kaiser Knuckles Death Potion and Dark Sigh are now blockable !Mix potions. Dancing Dagger and Thief Knife, paired with Dual Wield, can make the off-hand strike twice when they activate their commands (!Dance, !Mug). Swapping equipment mid-battle no longer resets equipment properties such as Mirage Vest's Image and certain !Mix effects related to elemental absorption and elemental boosting. Lilith Rod now either uses !Flirt or casts Osmose.
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Jun 8, 2016 14:50
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Another pro to the iOS version is that berserkers no longer suffer the bug where their first turn takes forever. If you plan on going 4 berserker I'm petty sure the iOS version will be faster even without being able to speed up during grinding. So for sandworm you have a 1/3 to hit the worm instead of a 1/6. For sol cannon you get 4 extra attacks before the cannons start going off. For Neo you always hit a target and your team focuses on removing parts ASAP. Just the virtue of hitting sandworm twice as often means you do not need grind nearly as much on a terrible grind spot which saves a boatload of time.
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Jun 8, 2016 15:01
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nice try friend you're not gonna get me to buy an ipod that easily
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Jun 8, 2016 15:02
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voltcatfish posted:nice try friend you're not gonna get me to buy an ipod that easily It's the same as the Steam version anyway. Also, playing normal RPGs on a phone is an exercise in migraines, especially if you have big, meaty claws like some of us do.
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Jun 8, 2016 15:17
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I'm sure it's possible that there's a RNG string that kills Exdeath, but I'm skeptical that better aiming makes up for the underflow bug. Has anyone done it on iOS?
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Jun 8, 2016 15:19
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Got my wind shrine save all set up and TotPhD is ready to save the world. 
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Jun 8, 2016 15:59
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KataraniSword posted:It's the same as the Steam version anyway. And there are some mods on the Steam version that do make the IOS/Android graphics look a lot better. Still worst looking then the GBA sprites, but not by much now. Shame a lot of neat mods that the FFVI Steam release didn't get put back to FFV like the male sprites having a belly, or fixing up the fonts.
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Jun 8, 2016 16:30
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Rirse posted:And there are some mods on the Steam version that do make the IOS/Android graphics look a lot better. Still worst looking then the GBA sprites, but not by much now. Shame a lot of neat mods that the FFVI Steam release didn't get put back to FFV like the male sprites having a belly, or fixing up the fonts. Do the mods make the steam version of 6 worth it? I wish there was a definitive version of 6 where it wasn't buggy as gently caress, the music worked, and it didn't look like rear end.
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Jun 8, 2016 18:37
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Probably shouldn't afford it, but gently caress it I do what I want. 5 'Zerks for the tree.
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Jun 8, 2016 18:40
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StrangeAeon posted:Probably shouldn't afford it, but gently caress it I do what I want. 5 'Zerks for the tree. Just think of it this way, you just bought a copy of Battlefield for some poor sick kid who will probably insult your mom while playing it. 
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Jun 8, 2016 18:44
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Shwqa posted:Another pro to the iOS version is that berserkers no longer suffer the bug where their first turn takes forever. If you plan on going 4 berserker I'm petty sure the iOS version will be faster even without being able to speed up during grinding. On the other hand, wouldn't that make Necrophobe impossible since the Zerkers would attack him before trying the two barriers behind him? Not that you need to kill him anyway, but hey.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:01
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djw175 posted:Do the mods make the steam version of 6 worth it? I wish there was a definitive version of 6 where it wasn't buggy as gently caress, the music worked, and it didn't look like rear end. I think it does. I got it for $8 from Square Enix's week long sale last week along with FFV for the Fiesta. I used a couple of mods like the one that gets rid of the terrible smudge on all the sprites so they are sharper, the font replacement, one for more 'tv filter', and replacement sprites for Locke and Shadow. Here what a battle looks like after all this.  That said, there is a mod in works that just literally adds all the SNES sprites into the game. There also another one that is redrawing the sprites to look better but it hasn't had a update in months and no download is up for that.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:08
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There's a million words in the OP but I don't think any of them mention when this starts, so uh, when does this start?
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Jun 8, 2016 19:10
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It'll start likely Sunday evening. Traditionally it starts after the speedrunners finish their run, and since the run starts on Sunday that's likely when they'll finish as well.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:16
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Oh wow I didn't realize it was so soon. I need to register
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Jun 8, 2016 19:32
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Rirse posted:ff6 stuff I saw a lot of complaints about the game not loading sprites in between areas/on the overworld, is that an actual complaint or just people getting mad about the Steam port being the iOS version? Rirse posted:didn't get put back to FFV like the male sprites having a belly FF5 Mobile is competing with Hatoful Boyfriend for the title of Best Pigeon Simulator.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:33
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Mega64 posted:It'll start likely Sunday evening. Traditionally it starts after the speedrunners finish their run, and since the run starts on Sunday that's likely when they'll finish as well. Nice, I'll get to watch Hamilton win a million Tony's then play FFV all through the night.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:38
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djw175 posted:Do the mods make the steam version of 6 worth it? I wish there was a definitive version of 6 where it wasn't buggy as gently caress, the music worked, and it didn't look like rear end. Unless there's a mod for Brave New World on the steam version, then my answer will be no.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:39
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KataraniSword posted:I saw a lot of complaints about the game not loading sprites in between areas/on the overworld, is that an actual complaint or just people getting mad about the Steam port being the iOS version? I played for about two hours and not seen that issue at all. Only minor issue I have is the dash button is gone from FFV and FFVI, so Thief's sprint and the Sprint Shoes are needed to run again. While that makes those actually useful again, it will suck if I don't get Thief in the Fiesta.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:43
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StrangeAeon posted:Unless there's a mod for Brave New World on the steam version, then my answer will be no. Boy, I sure love the entire World of Ruin being just as obnoxious and pointless as the Sealed Temple is in FF5. Brave New World had a lot of great ideas but once Atma Weapon hit, the entire thing poo poo the bed. Unless the newest builds of the patch dialed down the entire WoR's HP by about 10x? No sale.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:44
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Excited to do this this year. I started a run last, but ended up not finishing due to my hard drive failing. I kinda want to do a practice run with my team from last year (White Mage/Time Mage/Geomancer/Dancer).
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Jun 8, 2016 19:47
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KataraniSword posted:Boy, I sure love the entire World of Ruin being just as obnoxious and pointless as the Sealed Temple is in FF5. I watched my friend Diabetus stream the Brave New World mod once. Lost interest in it after they made fighting Nepala on the Floating Continent into a big melodramatic cutscene about Celes wishing she was dead or something.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:50
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Are you sure that wasn't the vanilla version?
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Jun 8, 2016 20:12
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Samuel Clemens posted:Are you sure that wasn't the vanilla version? No, that is definitely the mod. Apparently it was a way to shoehorn Celes getting some levels so she wouldn't be underleveled at the start of the WoR. I believe BTB or the other guy eventually nixed that part since it was so poorly received. The mod itself apparently changed a lot since when I LPed it, so maybe Atma isn't such a roadblock anymore and maybe the WoR is a bit more interesting than "giant meat walls of HP." Only thing I've really read up about is splitting levels so you can get stat gains from espers without having to stay low-level before getting them. I assume there's a ton of other tweaks and stuff too here and there, and I'd love to give it another go sometime since I enjoyed it the first time I played it.
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Oh yeah, you're right. I should give the mod another try one of these days. From what I remember, the author was fairly open to feedback when you LPed it, so the most glaring issues might have been fixed in the interim.
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Jun 8, 2016 21:25
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Yeah, the author did seem very good about receiving feedback and continuing to tweak things. Even the old build I played when people complained about it a lot, I don't remember the WoR bosses taking that long. I mean, they're definitely higher than the base game, but you could chump WoR bosses in the base game so hard that it wasn't funny. Really, what the BNW mod does best is make every character good, distinct, and evenly balanced. I had a hard time at Kefka's tower deciding who to leave behind because pretty much everyone was useful.
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Rirse posted:I played for about two hours and not seen that issue at all. Only minor issue I have is the dash button is gone from FFV and FFVI, so Thief's sprint and the Sprint Shoes are needed to run again. While that makes those actually useful again, it will suck if I don't get Thief in the Fiesta.
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Mega64 posted:No, that is definitely the mod. Apparently it was a way to shoehorn Celes getting some levels so she wouldn't be underleveled at the start of the WoR. I believe BTB or the other guy eventually nixed that part since it was so poorly received. Well thank gently caress for that. I remember reading that part in your LP of BNW and wondering what the hell he had been thinking with that poo poo. I've actually been thinking about giving BNW another shot, myself. By any chance did he change Relm's swearing habit too? I remember being baffled that everyone complained about Kefka having a potty mouth but nobody said a word about Relm being exactly the same (I realize it was supposed to be a Hit Girl reference, but still pretty hypocritical of people to only complain about one and not the other).
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From what I understand Relm uses pretty coarse language in Japanese, though I know it's not the equivalent of throwing the word "gently caress" around in English but I think she calls Strago the equivalent of "lovely old man" or something. I could be wrong.
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Saturday's run can't get here fast enough.  We're talking about romhacks for an entirely different game because we need to save up our FF5 hype lest we burn out.Twelve by Pies posted:From what I understand Relm uses pretty coarse language in Japanese, though I know it's not the equivalent of throwing the word "gently caress" around in English but I think she calls Strago the equivalent of "lovely old man" or something. I could be wrong. She's definitely more crass than your normal girl that age, but no, she doesn't drop bombs of the level BNW tossed her during the Thamasa arc. I'm also 90% sure that in Japanese, the line between "lovely" and "crappy" is nonexistent, and "drat"/"bastard" are much more mild swears than they are in English. She's definitely not Hit Girl, probably more along the lines of like... Strong Bad.
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Twelve by Pies posted:From what I understand Relm uses pretty coarse language in Japanese, though I know it's not the equivalent of throwing the word "gently caress" around in English but I think she calls Strago the equivalent of "lovely old man" or something. I could be wrong. IIRC "gently caress" and "poo poo" aren't nearly as coarse in Japanese as they are in English But no matter how bad she was in Japanese, it's still a bit much to see a 10-year old calling people cunts left and right.
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Jun 9, 2016 01:30
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Okay yeah that's...a little excessive.
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KataraniSword posted:Saturday's run can't get here fast enough. This is correct. In addition, the word often translated as "drat" can be anywhere from "rats" to "gently caress" depending on the character, the context, and the translator. Japanese doesn't really have what English speakers think of swear words.
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Jun 9, 2016 02:27
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KataraniSword posted:Saturday's run can't get here fast enough. Now let's talk about the Ancient Cave again.
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theshim posted:Indeed. It's a fantastic concept marred by two things: One, every FF5 romhack ever is based on the Japanese Super Famicom version, which means that almost all of them are in moonrunes and thus incomprehensible if you don't have a FAQ like, right there. Two, the FF5 Ancient Cave isn't nearly as flexible as the original Lufia 2 one. It turns out that there's very definitely a specific winning "kit" that you need to have, or else you just fail miserably.
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KataraniSword posted:One, every FF5 romhack ever is based on the Japanese Super Famicom version, which means that almost all of them are in moonrunes and thus incomprehensible if you don't have a FAQ like, right there.
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hopeandjoy posted:This is correct. In addition, the word often translated as "drat" can be anywhere from "rats" to "gently caress" depending on the character, the context, and the translator. Japanese doesn't really have what English speakers think of swear words. mebbe they can leave in the honorifics and the shimatas and i can njoy them for myself DACK FAYDEN posted:Why would anyone do this? because the kind of people who can edit roma of these old games and are familiar with the code are usually the people who have worked on translation projects - they can already read japanese - its easier to work the game into ancient cavey fuckness when you dont have to apply all your hacks and tricks to the rom to move data out of order to expand the alphabet and text registers and have everything moved around - maybe they need the extra space theyd normally create in the rom for all the code to get english text in to hold the randomizer code / sanity checks for the ancient cave code zolthorg fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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