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Yeah, I was going to say something negative about the 7980XE's extreme price compared to the top end Threadripper but looking down the lineup, I can't see any of the Skylake-E chips as compelling except maybe the 8-core. The 6-core appears to be about to get killed by the 8700K and everything above the 8-core is just way too high of a price compared to the AMD alternative unless there's an overwhelming need for maximum single thread performance in addition to all the cores.
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If Intel released an 7850X with 8C/16T and 44 PCIe lanes for $799, they'd be in much better shape. I'd be interested in that CPU.
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it's a tiny picture but here are all SL-X models with at their turbo boost frequencies at various core loads  there are some interesting patterns there, i.e. it seems like the 14C i9-7940X will be some sort of sweetspot due to it being HCC with many cores shut off, allowing for higher frequencies. 
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Retarded question: shouldn't a 4C/8T i3 be better than a 6C i5 because of the extra threads?
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Otakufag posted:Retarded question: shouldn't a 4C/8T i3 be better than a 6C i5 because of the extra threads? Physical threads are better than HT threads. I think you see about a 20-30% performance increase from hyperthreading which turns the 4c into roughly a 5.5c CPU. If the i5 is actually a 6c/6t product it will be really nice.
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The i5 should be a nice chip for a while. Particularly delidded at 5GHz or whatever it hits. Shame it won't run on z170. It's not like implementations of z170 can't support way more power then this will draw stock.
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Do we know yet what the hell the z390 actually is compared to z370?
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ufarn posted:Do we know yet what the hell the z390 actually is compared to z370? Right is z390, left is launch z370. So z390 adds integrated Wifi, USB 3.1 Gen 2, better audio DSP (will still be up to board partners to implement it well, though), and support for some new sleep states that I haven't heard much about. 370 will apparently launch in September, 390 will launch with the rest of the 300 series in Feb-March '18. 
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Cygni posted:Right is z390, left is launch z370. So z390 adds integrated Wifi, USB 3.1 Gen 2, better audio DSP (will still be up to board partners to implement it well, though), and support for some new sleep states that I haven't heard much about.
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ufarn posted:But does it have a fundamentally different chipset w/r/t CPU support, or is there no downside to going 370 aside from losing some "Z+" mobo features? No, they support the same processors as far as we know. 370 is just a re-purposed 270 (Kaby Lake PCH), essentially. 390 and the rest of the 300 series is the new Cannon Lake PCH. Maybe in the future, Cannon Lake/Ice Lake will work in 390 and not 370, but that doesn't seem likely. Also worth noting that nobody really knows if Z390 will really exist or not, theres been a lot of conflicting rumors and conflicting slides, such as:  Which seems to suggest 370 will continue on as the high end? Or maybe exist alongside 390, which doesnt make any sense?
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Double post cause we are gonna find out all these details soon: http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-8th-gen-official-announcement-21-august-launch/ Launch will be August 21st. All 6 SKUs at launch have allegedly leaked: two 6/12 i7s, two 6/6 i5s, and two i3's  e: oh also, sounds like the i3's will work in Z170/Z270. 8350 whaddup gurl Cygni fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Cygni posted:8350 whaddup gurl It's me, I'm the unlocked processor that supports ECC. (I guarantee Intel's gonna lock that down at the chipset, it will be either unlocked or support ECC depending on what board you put it on, not both)
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this just confirms that they're not actually making a different pinout if the i3s will work on the older boards
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Intel calling upon alien demon technology gods with their solar eclipse press day Boost clock of 4.7 GHz on the 8700K sounds a little too insane. That's higher than the 4.6 GHz at which I could keep my Ivy Bridge 4c/8t stable, and I delidded that thing later on, too.
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Paul MaudDib posted:It's me, I'm the unlocked processor that supports ECC. The 7350k didn't support ECC, why would the 8350k?
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Twerk from Home posted:The 7350k didn't support ECC, why would the 8350k? Regardless that's what the leaks show. Not sure that's a plus for their credibility but... 
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huh wow, basically a lower clocked 7700K with ECC. That 8700K with ECC would last me for many years but I guess we aren't quite there yet. I'd replace my R7 1700 in a heartbeat to get rid of the strange, mostly virtualisation related first-gen bugs.
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The 8700K looks really good but holy poo poo I do NOT want to give Intel my money.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Intel calling upon alien demon technology gods with their solar eclipse press day Maybe they're soldering dies to ihs again? 
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Intel calling upon alien demon technology gods with their solar eclipse press day Max boost on one core perhaps and now chip wide?
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Kazinsal posted:The 8700K looks really good but holy poo poo I do NOT want to give Intel my money. Then don't and wait for the 1900X Threadripper.
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wargames posted:Max boost on one core perhaps and not chip wide? It's this. All-Core turbo is a much more reasonable 4.3Ghz. Still, it gives hope that with deliding and proper cooling, you could get up towards 5Ghz on at least most of the cores, if not all.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Intel calling upon alien demon technology gods with their solar eclipse press day That's what multiple process improvements gets you It's a die shrink and on a highly optimized process so you get 4.7 without de-lidding I assume with de-lidding most could reach 5GHz
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Intel calling upon alien demon technology gods with their solar eclipse press day Maybe they have improved the TIM? Hahaha, no, just kidding.
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Can't wait for the Reddit brown sea posts about how everyone should OC because it's free and easy with a non-delid +100MHz headroom! Because these chips look to be pushed way beyond the clock/thermals sweet spot out of the box. If the non-Z boards can support over DDR4-2400, I won't even be remotely considering a Z-board. Palladium fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Malcolm XML posted:That's what multiple process improvements gets you If the 4.7 is not already at the edge you can probably get 5 without deliding and a aio water cooler. Deliding with a custom loop may give you like 5.5 if you win the lottery.
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Cool, that 8350k or 8400 might be my next system. *waits another year to replace sandy bridge*
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Looks like the mobile chips are commin' fairly quickly too. Coffee Lake-U in a laptop spotted in the wild https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i7-8550u-spotted-in-acer-nitro-notebook
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Cygni posted:Looks like the mobile chips are commin' fairly quickly too. Coffee Lake-U in a laptop spotted in the wild Thank god because my Sandy Bridge laptop is really starting to feel too slow.
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Potato Salad posted:Cool, that 8350k or 8400 might be my next system. *waits another year to replace sandy bridge* Depending on the pricing, the 8350K might actually be a better deal than the 8400 since 4 core HT is barely slower than 2 physical cores and the i3 has can be clocked way higher to compensate it anyway with the added bonus of better ST performance.
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Hopefully this means I'll be able to buy a 13" MBP with a quad core and ddr 4 ram next year.
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The Lord Bude posted:Hopefully this means I'll be able to buy a 13" MBP with a quad core and ddr 4 ram next year. Apple will tell you that ddr4 uses too much power like they did with the macbook pros
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The Lord Bude posted:Hopefully this means I'll be able to buy a 13" MBP with a quad core and ddr 4 ram next year. The only reason why I got for the 15" is because of the quadcore chip. The discrete card in the 15"s aren't even that great.
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Cygni posted:Looks like the mobile chips are commin' fairly quickly too. Coffee Lake-U in a laptop spotted in the wild ... really? Wooo-weee! An extra 4g stick! Cause i don't even know if there are even 2gb sticks around for ddr4
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Rabid Snake posted:The only reason why I got for the 15" is because of the quadcore chip. The discrete card in the 15"s aren't even that great. And I've never owned a MacBook Pro before but I hear they tend to hit a thermal limit so needing to cool a dGPU probably doesn't help CPU performance.
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Can a 1080ti saturate 8x PCIe 3.0? Is it possible top end Volta will? I thought I remember reading indications that a 1080ti could but it also could have just been someone that tested it wrong/shittily. I ask because I am an idiot that likes to flush money down the toilet and am concerned about losing 5% of the already lovely SLI scaling on my next build.
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scrubs season six posted:Can a 1080ti saturate 8x PCIe 3.0? Is it possible top end Volta will? Puget tested PCIe scaling with the Titan X Pascal, which is basically the same as the 1080ti. Dropping from 16x to 8x does make a difference but it's very small in most cases.
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