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Friendly reminder to everyone reading this dumb gay thread, the people who enforce the law should be held to a higher standard than those who don't.
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More people need to stand up to cops and put them in their place. Cops are not above the law and they need to know it.
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Sep 26, 2017 01:46
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T.S. Smelliot posted:Sure it's possible, it's also possible to kill someone who may or may not be a threat and this case specifically it was impossible to determine whether the 27 year old "kid" was or wasn't a threat, I don't blame the officer at all. As someone who worked in a very similar if not identical job as me, you had contact with local LEOs at least 2-3 times a week, did you not find them to be helpful or professional? Because I absolutely did. I was on a first name basis with the local beat cops and we relied on each other for assistance on all the issues we faced together, they were a great group of guys. After that, when I was in CPS, I relied on calling dispatch almost daily for LEO assistance and they were 99.999% of the time helpful, professional and reliable as gently caress but I know that's sacrilege to this thread of sobbing little straight white male bitches crying about that time they got a parking ticket so the latter half of my time at the shelter we had an LEO on detail every night. they were either useless or made situations worse. my more relevant experience with LEOs comes from my time as an EMT, where they'd be dispatched at the same time, called in, or call for us. a handful of them were decent. not great, just normal and decent people. unfortunately the majority were pieces of poo poo who routinely violated people's rights (later, in conversation with an LEO at the shelter I'd learn that they in fact relied on people being ignorant to their rights, and that people who weren't were nuisances they greatly hated). when they weren't violating a person's rights in order to secure some probable cause or whatever they could be found mocking or abusing suicidal/EDP patients, domestic violence victims, and drunks. i usually preferred them not to be on scene but i'm not gonna bullshit and say i never called them, but only cause we needed an extra set of hands or eyes; i'd have happily preferred another crew, it's just you avoid having two crews on one job whenever possible. as for the handful of good'uns they stood by and allowed all that poo poo to go on. but worse than that the good ones never moved up. they got poo poo details, poo poo shifts, and stayed where they were. the bastards all flew up the ranks
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Sep 26, 2017 01:48
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We Know Catheters posted:More people need to stand up to cops and put them in their place. Cops are not above the law and they need to know it. why don't you do it?
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Sep 26, 2017 01:48
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:I don't like the kill all cops ideology personally(families is taking it waaaaaay too far), but I do think there is a serious problem with U.S. policing that needs to be addressed and solved before you can even address social equality. When it comes to home defense it is the absolute first lifeline of defense, absolutely no questions asked. If you're such a loving piece of poo poo you'd invade a family's home for any reason you absolutely deserve to die no questions asked.
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Sep 26, 2017 01:49
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:I don't like the kill all cops ideology personally(families is taking it waaaaaay too far), but I do think there is a serious problem with U.S. policing that needs to be addressed and solved before you can even address social equality. Invading your home IS the absolute last line of defense, the keep has been breached, it's safe to assume anyone doing this is here to murder/rape/harm your family and any and all means of defense are absolutely on the table, shoot to kill is the only reasonable response to this threat, shoot for center mass until no threat exists anymore, gently caress any criminal rear end in a top hat attempting this in the first place, their life is absolutely forfeit E: I have 00 buck 4 rounds for my shotgun, 11 rounds hollow point .45 ACP and 6 rounds hollow point .357 magnum ready at all times for such a situation, anyone attempting to seek illegal entry to my home will die, period. T.S. Smelliot has issued a correction as of 01:53 on Sep 26, 2017 |
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Sep 26, 2017 01:51
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Perry Mason Jar posted:the latter half of my time at the shelter we had an LEO on detail every night. they were either useless or made situations worse. my more relevant experience with LEOs comes from my time as an EMT, where they'd be dispatched at the same time, called in, or call for us. a handful of them were decent. not great, just normal and decent people. unfortunately the majority were pieces of poo poo who routinely violated people's rights (later, in conversation with an LEO at the shelter I'd learn that they in fact relied on people being ignorant to their rights, and that people who weren't were nuisances they greatly hated). when they weren't violating a person's rights in order to secure some probable cause or whatever they could be found mocking or abusing suicidal/EDP patients, domestic violence victims, and drunks. i usually preferred them not to be on scene but i'm not gonna bullshit and say i never called them, but only cause we needed an extra set of hands or eyes; i'd have happily preferred another crew, it's just you avoid having two crews on one job whenever possible. as for the handful of good'uns they stood by and allowed all that poo poo to go on. but worse than that the good ones never moved up. they got poo poo details, poo poo shifts, and stayed where they were. the bastards all flew up the ranks i need shelter from you constantly mentioning your shelter stint, jfc get over it.
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Sep 26, 2017 01:53
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T.S. Smelliot posted:When it comes to home defense it is the absolute first lifeline of defense, absolutely no questions asked. If you're such a loving piece of poo poo you'd invade a family's home for any reason you absolutely deserve to die no questions asked. Ok, but that has nothing to do with the police. That statement was about the police, in the police thread, where we are talking about the police, not about private citizens shooting burglars, but police shooting people.
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Sep 26, 2017 01:53
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Nice bald spot.   T.S. Smelliot posted:Invading your home IS the absolute last line of defense, the keep has been breached, it's safe to assume anyone doing this is here to murder/rape/harm your family and any and all means of defense are absolutely on the table, shoot to kill is the only reasonable response to this threat, shoot for center mass until no threat exists anymore, gently caress any criminal rear end in a top hat attempting this in the first place, their life is absolutely forfeit every_white_americans_dream_scenario.txt you're such a goon lol
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Sep 26, 2017 01:55
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Zo posted:why don't you do it? thanks for your insight, Hot Takes the Poster
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Sep 26, 2017 01:55
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Hardawn posted:i need shelter from you constantly mentioning your shelter stint, jfc get over it. literally relevant to the post i quoted, you dumbass
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Sep 26, 2017 01:55
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Zo posted:why don't you do it? I've told cops off before. I have no problem standing up to them.
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Sep 26, 2017 01:55
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Hardawn posted:i need shelter from you constantly mentioning your shelter stint, jfc get over it. most of the people in shelter were pieces of poo poo, this is nothing new. Expect him to start crying about how mean the kitchen staff was for giving him free meals he didn't happen to care for. Homeless people are 99% loving criminal druggie scum
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Sep 26, 2017 01:57
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Perry Mason Jar posted:literally relevant to the post i quoted, you dumbass wow, i'm really seeing those deescalation skills there, they must've washed your feet and split their pills with you after you acted so magnanimously
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Sep 26, 2017 01:58
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gently caress why do so many social workers literally hate the population they signed up to help? happy that i never saw that poo poo in person but it's a common theme reading about SWs online. i shouldn't dignify that irrelevant poo poo with a response but i ate the free food every night, was grateful for it and still am.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:00
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:No, not at all. Shooting someone is the absolute last step, when your life is in danger. Shooting an unarmed person should not happen because there are other steps that the police can take to end a situation. "hmm this guy who is way bigger/stronger/tougher than me is beating me to death in this fight he initiated against me. i could shoot him and avoid dying... but he is unarmed. well, i guess everyone has their day!!" see: would rather die than kill
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Sep 26, 2017 02:02
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SealHammer posted:"hmm this guy who is way bigger/stronger/tougher than me is beating me to death in this fight he initiated against me. i could shoot him and avoid dying... but he is unarmed. well, i guess everyone has their day!!" You think cops go out into the scary world alone and armed with only a gun.? They've got a buddy and a taser, mace, and a beating stick. There are many ways to prevent conflict. That's why every other first world country has exponentially less police shootings. The problem in America is the police culture and their us vs them mentality.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:07
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ruddiger posted:"I'm one of you! I'm one of you!" the undercover cop screamed as he slowly transformed into a plebian. I watched this whole thing live on RebZ.tv the cops told people for two hours to leave the area and people kept playing the cross the street game with them told to leave, go across the street told to leave from there, cross another street no one ever left the area until they got carted out in vans
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Sep 26, 2017 02:10
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:Friendly reminder to everyone reading this dumb gay thread, the people who enforce the law should be held to a higher standard than those who don't. Woah, woah! That's a pretty controversial stance to take in America! Freedom of speech means freedom of bullets.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:10
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Red Rover red Rover, send hot lead on over
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Sep 26, 2017 02:11
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:You think cops go out into the scary world alone and armed with only a gun.? They've got a buddy and a taser, mace, and a beating stick. There are many ways to prevent conflict. That's why every other first world country has exponentially less police shootings. The problem in America is the police culture and their us vs them mentality. Tasers are unreliable, mace is only effective over time and only against people who feel pain (i.e. not people on dissociatives or amphetamines), and batons are even less effective unless bones are broken or the CNS is damaged. As sad as it is, the only reliable man-portable tool for incapacitation is the firearm. And sometimes an officer does have to incapacitate someone because it is not their job to avoid conflict, it is to arrest suspected criminals and bring them before the judiciary. What jurisdiction do you live in where the police officers always have a partner with them? Genuinely curious. SealHammer has issued a correction as of 02:17 on Sep 26, 2017 |
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Sep 26, 2017 02:14
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SealHammer posted:Tasers are unreliable, mace is only effective over time and only against people who feel pain (i.e. not people on dissociatives or amphetamines), and batons are even less effective unless bones are broken. As sad as it is, the only reliable man-portable tool for incapacitation is the firearm. The amount of cop deaths in countries that don't use guns must be comparable to that of deaths by cop in the states, no doubt.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:18
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It's not so much partners, but backup is only a radio call away and if you can't not shoot someone for 10 minutes tops while waiting for someone to arrive then dang. Also nobody is going to complain if a cop breaks a dude who's trying to kill the cop's leg with a baton. It's a far better scenario than one that ends with a corpse.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:19
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ruddiger posted:Nice bald spot. t.s. smelliot keeps guns strategically situated behind things in every room of the house so he can jump, john woo-style, to grab one and defend himself at a moment's notice one of these days a "pack" of "thug" "gangbangers" are going to burst down his door and he'll be ready. those pigs think that's a harmless stuffed animal, but little do they know, it's concealing a glock! picture of his family on the mantle? it's actually concealing an uzi! and you might think there's umbrellas in that umbrella stand, but, nope! 12 gauge shotgun! it's gonna happen! and when it does... he'll be ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sep 26, 2017 02:21
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Mirthless posted:t.s. smelliot keeps guns strategically situated behind things in every room of the house so he can jump, john woo-style, to grab one and defend himself at a moment's notice pictured here: T.S. Smelliot 
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Sep 26, 2017 02:23
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T.S. Smelliot posted:Invading your home IS the absolute last line of defense, the keep has been breached, it's safe to assume anyone doing this is here to murder/rape/harm your family and any and all means of defense are absolutely on the table, shoot to kill is the only reasonable response to this threat, shoot for center mass until no threat exists anymore, gently caress any criminal rear end in a top hat attempting this in the first place, their life is absolutely forfeit lol at this psycho
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Sep 26, 2017 02:26
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Demon Of The Fall posted:lol at this psycho The best part is this is a completely unprovoked derail that he himself started. The U.S. needs some sort of psych eval before allowing people to buy guns.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:30
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T.S. Smelliot posted:most of the people in shelter were pieces of poo poo, this is nothing new. Expect him to start crying about how mean the kitchen staff was for giving him free meals he didn't happen to care for. if you hate homeless people so much why did you work at a shelter? were you poisoning them or did you have to serve community service for assaulting homeless people
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Sep 26, 2017 02:36
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Inept posted:if you hate homeless people so much why did you work at a shelter? were you poisoning them or did you have to serve community service for assaulting homeless people It's the other way around friend
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Sep 26, 2017 02:38
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Inept posted:if you hate homeless people so much why did you work at a shelter? were you poisoning them or did you have to serve community service for assaulting homeless people Get this, this piece of human trash was a social worker and is now a teacher.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:38
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T.S. Smelliot posted:It's the other way around friend They were poisoning you so you had to work for them? Go drive a garbage truck or something instead what the gently caress
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Sep 26, 2017 02:40
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TS got beat up by the homeless so then he goes to volunteer where they have community service and heckles them about their mismatched socks
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Sep 26, 2017 02:43
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i think i understand. he's saying a homeless person assaulted him and they forced him to do community service for having been assaulted and also he was poisoned. political correctness gone wild
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Sep 26, 2017 02:43
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maybe if working as a social worker broke your brain so bad you shouldn't be in charge of teaching kids things. like you have to realize on some level your opinion on homeless people is hosed up. like if you find out a kid in your class is homeless, do you start panicking or just punch them in the face
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Sep 26, 2017 02:44
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I volunteered at a food bank for a while, and was pretty shocked at the crap homeless people were expected to be grateful for. Pretty much everything was expired. Some stuff was clearly moldy or smelled bad. They were expected to line up quietly and take it because, being homeless means you don't deserve to eat non-perished foodstuffs, I guess? I ran into more than one volunteer that were the inspiration porn types. They just wanted to have their picture taken there so they can post it on FB and look good with their employers or school. If I had to deal with that poo poo every time I was hungry, I'd be an rear end in a top hat too.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:47
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T.S. Smelliot posted:Sure it's possible, it's also possible to kill someone who may or may not be a threat and this case specifically it was impossible to determine whether the 27 year old "kid" was or wasn't a threat, I don't blame the officer at all. Isn't that literally the only loving thing that should be expected of them?
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Sep 26, 2017 02:55
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Slugworth posted:I really need to clarify this - You think cops shouldn't have to determine whether someone is a threat or not before shooting them? Man, American cops must be such complete and utter pussies, shooting at whatever even remotely startles them.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:57
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:Man, American cops must be such complete and utter pussies, shooting at whatever even remotely startles them. And I bet you've never came inside a lady.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:59
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:Man, American cops must be such complete and utter pussies, shooting at whatever even remotely startles them. Shoot first, claim you were startled later.
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Hardawn posted:And I bet you've never came inside a lady. I'm sorrynotsorry your cops are a bunch of candy-asses who are so terrified of brown children that only a warm smoking gun will assuage them.
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