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a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

ArmyOfMidgets posted:

Man, Sonic Boom's been sorta meh lately. The latest episode involved a chili cook-off and Knuckles getting in a quest to find a rare chili pepper that turned out to be the chief of a pepper village that want to take their lands back from Sonic and friends and it was still kinda boring.

so who won the cook off

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MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Anime Curator posted:

so who won the cook off

They didn't say, Knuckles was having a mystical chili pepper dream so he missed the actual cook off.

Bifner McDoogle
Mar 31, 2006

"Life unworthy of life" (German: Lebensunwertes Leben) is a pragmatic liberal designation for the segments of the populace which they view as having no right to continue existing, due to the expense of extending them basic human dignity.

ArmyOfMidgets posted:

Man, Sonic Boom's been sorta meh lately. The latest episode involved a chili cook-off and Knuckles getting in a quest to find a rare chili pepper that turned out to be the chief of a pepper village that want to take their lands back from Sonic and friends and it was still kinda boring.

I heard that show is alright but only saw one episode, is it the same as that wacky Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons in that Robotnik carries the show and its usually terrible when he isn't onscreen? Cause that seems to be the case, based on my sample size of one.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Bifner McDoogle posted:

I heard that show is alright but only saw one episode, is it the same as that wacky Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons in that Robotnik carries the show and its usually terrible when he isn't onscreen? Cause that seems to be the case, based on my sample size of one.

Pretty much, but Knuckles also has amazing moments so it's a team effort between those two to carry the show and then the rest of the cast sometimes have decent enough lines.

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!
yesssssssss. looks like the original got nuked, no wonder i had trouble

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Relin posted:

yesssssssss. looks like the original got nuked, no wonder i had trouble

Speaking of mystic caves raps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMo5uI0HjMI

Any excuse.

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkhdEKidL1M

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa0giRkQdQM

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010


The whole of Sonic 2 Special Edition is mandatory viewing.

http://lparchive.org/Sonic-2-Special-Edition/

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

ArmyOfMidgets posted:

They didn't say, Knuckles was having a mystical chili pepper dream so he missed the actual cook off.
Find your soulmate, Knuckles!

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

That loving Sned posted:

The whole of Sonic 2 Special Edition is mandatory viewing.

http://lparchive.org/Sonic-2-Special-Edition/

I unironically really like this rendition of the ending song. I've been working up the courage for years to ask doc future if he has a higher quality version of the audio :negative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Oj-4Rd3n6g

edit: WHAAAAAAAAT THERE'S AN MP3 IN THE DECSRIPTION AHSAASDA :flashfap: gently caress my rear end. jesus

beep by grandpa fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Jul 17, 2015

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

I just saw this thing about the comics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6YYoNf1hPM

Also this thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20QELTebVwI

Dresh
Jun 15, 2008

hrmph.

I always regretted that I didn't get the Image crossover. I did, however, manage to get the Sabrina the Teenage Witch crossover which also included a story about Sonic going to the world of Sonic Underground.

Stink Terios
Oct 17, 2012


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KE6aTlS7iY
Russians are making a fan-sequel to the OVA. Looks promising and appropriately silly.

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyxYdj9dGcI

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Stink Terios posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KE6aTlS7iY
Russians are making a fan-sequel to the OVA. Looks promising and appropriately silly.

sweet they made a tails got trolled movie

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

Big the Cat just got added as playable to Sonic Runners motherfuckers

Greatest character in the franchise playable in a 2d platformer at last

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010

Kelp Plankton posted:

Big the Cat just got added as playable to Sonic Runners motherfuckers

Greatest character in the franchise playable in a 2d platformer at last

The Big cameos in SA2 were great, he was somehow in nearly every stage, cutscene, and boss fight.

It's nice to have one character whose life doesn't revolve around Sonic.

Jarogue
Nov 3, 2012


Kelp Plankton posted:

Big the Cat just got added as playable to Sonic Runners motherfuckers

Greatest character in the franchise playable in a 2d platformer at last

He better play like this or riot.

Jarogue fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Jul 24, 2015

Ryaomon
Mar 19, 2007
Ask me about being a racist piece of shit with a racist gimmick
Big, Cream and Silver were all added at once and if you play as them your score gets halved at the end for having bad taste.

A Great Big Bee!
Mar 8, 2007

Grimey Drawer
blaze had better be hard mode, sonic rush style

edit: and she had better change the music to hideki naganuma remixes

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010

*Yosh intensifies*

That loving Sned posted:


It's nice to have one character whose life doesn't revolve around Sonic.

Technically, Knuckles's life revolves around the Master Emerald and he just so happens to get caught up with Sonic's Shenanigans inadvertently. Also Cream's life just seems to be about her Chao but she's only like 6 I guess.

Jarogue
Nov 3, 2012


Ventana posted:

Technically, Knuckles's life revolves around the Master Emerald and he just so happens to get caught up with Sonic's Shenanigans inadvertently. Also Cream's life just seems to be about her Chao but she's only like 6 I guess.

And her Mom and Robot Buddy from Sonic Advance 3.

Stink Terios
Oct 17, 2012


Um.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aja62gtsLdI

Sonic'06 is being fan ported/remade to PC.

why

Xad
Jul 2, 2009

"Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"

College Slice

Stink Terios posted:

Um.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aja62gtsLdI

Sonic'06 is being fan ported/remade to PC.

why

No. I refuse to believe that someone is putting significant effort into this.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

It's all coded in LUA isn't it? So hypothetically whoever's doing this could fix the bugs?

E: I think I tentatively approve cause the story's the only part of it that's completely unsalvagable, the rest is badly broken but if you're properly remaking it you could make it all work. And even if the creator has bad opinions on things like normal enemies having health and rings having physics, it could be modded down the line cause it's on PC.

Dabir fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Aug 1, 2015

How Rude
Aug 13, 2012


FUCK THIS SHIT

Dabir posted:

It's all coded in LUA isn't it? So hypothetically whoever's doing this could fix the bugs?

It would still have poo poo level design and gameplay.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I mean if you're gonna put that much effort in you may as well rip the assets and then build your own sonic game.

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook

MikeJF posted:

I mean if you're gonna put that much effort in you may as well rip the assets and then build your own sonic game.

And a at that point you may as well mod Generations.

Jarogue
Nov 3, 2012


Last chance to get a sweet Sonic shirt and help Doctors Without Borders .
http://www.theyetee.com/sgdq/detail.php?itemid=SGDQ-GottaGoFast

F. Lobot
Jul 6, 2010

Stink Terios posted:

Um.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aja62gtsLdI

Sonic'06 is being fan ported/remade to PC.

why

Here's another build that more accurately represents the official product.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMiXYcT-2Ks&t=173s

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Dabir posted:

It's all coded in LUA isn't it? So hypothetically whoever's doing this could fix the bugs?

E: I think I tentatively approve cause the story's the only part of it that's completely unsalvagable, the rest is badly broken but if you're properly remaking it you could make it all work. And even if the creator has bad opinions on things like normal enemies having health and rings having physics, it could be modded down the line cause it's on PC.

How on earth would they fix the unworkable camera, terrible level design and loose as gently caress controls? The story is fun to laugh at, but it's not by any means what makes the game suck as hard as it does.

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

a sonic 2006 without hilarious bugs every stage probably isn't worth playing imo

Cabbagepots
Apr 7, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!

Stink Terios posted:

Um.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aja62gtsLdI

Sonic'06 is being fan ported/remade to PC.

why

Oh gently caress, really? That's exciting.

The Sonic fan community is full of talented people who know how to make good games. I'd be down to play a version of this game with actual beta testing and polish.

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

Cabbagepots posted:

Oh gently caress, really? That's exciting.

The Sonic fan community is full of talented people who know how to make good games. I'd be down to play a version of this game with actual beta testing and polish.

Nah. Even if you improve so there aren't loadings for single lines of dialogue, there aren't any glaring bugs like the one in Radical Train that sends you flying off a path that should be scripted, and the controls aren't hosed, the game still suffers from bad level design and terrible story. And without the entertaining bugs the game just becomes bad, not entertainingly/amazingly bad. It becomes not only something you wouldn't want to play, but something you wouldn't even watch.

The real solution would be to remake all the levels in Generations, cause there even SEGA showed that at least Crisis City could be fun.

Cabbagepots
Apr 7, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!

Kikas posted:

Nah. Even if you improve so there aren't loadings for single lines of dialogue, there aren't any glaring bugs like the one in Radical Train that sends you flying off a path that should be scripted, and the controls aren't hosed, the game still suffers from bad level design and terrible story. And without the entertaining bugs the game just becomes bad, not entertainingly/amazingly bad. It becomes not only something you wouldn't want to play, but something you wouldn't even watch.

They wouldn't just rest at making it functional, that would only be the first step. The next step would be completely redesigning all the parts of the game that don't work and making a fun game out of them. I couldn't give less of a poo poo about the story, but it might work better if they replaced all the humans with animal characters.

I've seen these guys in action, they can pull off some seriously amazing things.

Cabbagepots fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Aug 3, 2015

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

Cabbagepots posted:

They wouldn't just rest at making it functional, that would only be the first step. The next step would be completely redesigning all the parts of the game that don't work and making a fun game out of them. I couldn't give less of a poo poo about the story, but it might work better if they replaced all the humans with animal characters.

I've seen these guys in action, they can pull off some seriously amazing things.

Well both the videos posted in the thread make it look like it's a pretty direct port, so it's whishful thinking that they actually improve anything. And improving anything would make room for new bugs, etc etc. It's a vicious cycle which would require long-rear end debugging/patching process, which isn't something that free single-player games get, even with the most dedicated modders.

I mean they put in the original sounds, homing attack physics, the weird way everything launches you, multi-hit enemies, use the same camera angles in the levels - all those things are much bigger problem then level design, mostly because, changing them would make the level design require more changes etc etc. Vicious. Cycle.

Sonic 06 isn't like Spyro: Enter the Dragonfly. In Spyro, if you actually ported it and fixed some of the bugs, like the collision bugs, fixing hitboxes of dragonflies/bubblebreath, stuff not loading/animating, dumb controls, you would have a halfway decent Spyro game, with levels that are fun to play and some even neatly designed. With good sounds, and the core gameplay not being complete rear end.
Sonic 06 is a bad game at it's core, mostly because it's the Sonic Adventure 3 we deserved, where SEGA took all the good things out of SA2, and kept all the bad ones.

Kikas fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Aug 3, 2015

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
Did anybody ever figure out what exactly caused the loading times? Maybe a fan port will bring some answers at least.

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010

mycot posted:

Did anybody ever figure out what exactly caused the loading times? Maybe a fan port will bring some answers at least.

Whenever the game has to change anything in the city, like opening a door, moving an NPC, or starting a mission, it has to reload the entire city again. The missions were even worse since they'd reload the city to have the NPC give you a text box or two explaining the mission, and then another loading screen to actually begin the mission.

In Sonic Adventure, 8 years earlier, it was possible to go from a cutscene to gameplay instantly, without even a fade to black. Also, levels that were divided into multiple areas would only have a fraction of a second pause to go between.

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Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


The only way to improve Sonic 06 is to replace the cutscenes with 10 second slideshows drawn in crayon, just to impress how outrageously incompetent everyone in that game is.

"So Sonic rescued the princess again, only to immediately lose her and look on impotently as Eggman drove them both into a cliff and died in a fireball. Again.

So Sonic went back in time, again, to attempt the same rescue, again, and THIS time he wasn't going to leave her to a fiery death.

Again."

Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Aug 3, 2015

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