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Looking to replace my aging WHS box, trying to decide between the Synology DS918+, Synology DS418play, or the QNAP TS-451+. Anyone have strong opinions? I'm running Plex on a Shield TV and all three seem like they'll do hardware transcoding at 1080p w/ limited 4k support w/o issue so long as I've got a Plex Pass. None are significantly out of line pricewise for the basic model (I'll upgrade the RAM myself). All three look like they'll run the majority of the other software I care about easily as well. I'm leaning towards one of the Synology boxes, mostly because they seem more popular. Heard enough good things about QNAP to make me second-guess myself though 
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Splinter posted:I was not, but that's pretty cool. Looks like that means I could get a 4TB Red for $90 instead of $120? Might still just go with a normal Red for convenience, but that's something to consider. Thanks everyone for the feedback, sounds like Reds are still the way to go. The 8tb ones were just down to $130, every few weeks they seem to dip to 160 ish. The 10tb were also at 180 or 190 recently as well.
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Nov 28, 2018 16:16
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Tivac posted:Heard enough good things about QNAP to make me second-guess myself though Moey posted:The 8tb ones were just down to $130, every few weeks they seem to dip to 160 ish. The 10tb were also at 180 or 190 recently as well.
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Nov 28, 2018 17:07
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CopperHound posted:My Book drives hold pretty steady at $160 from B&H and they don't collect sales tax from California. I am using one that I haven't shucked (yet). Is there any reason to pick easystore over my Book? Not at all. Since you already have it, you can check the model of the drive inside as well. It seems those are the same drives as the EasyStores.
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Nov 28, 2018 17:38
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Easystore seems to be the Best Buy version of My Book, so they don't have to price match My Book sales.
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Nov 28, 2018 19:30
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Tivac posted:Looking to replace my aging WHS box, trying to decide between the Synology DS918+, Synology DS418play, or the QNAP TS-451+. Anyone have strong opinions? I don't have an opinion on the NAS' you are looking at, but your Shield TV should play back pretty much anything without transcoding. I am not sure how to set that up in the Plex client, but you can do it with Kodi, and there is a Kodi/Plex plugin that you can use if you want to use Plex's library. I do that but with Emby instead of Plex.
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Nov 28, 2018 23:13
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There is always Stablebit Drivepool which is the spiritual successor to WHS. In fact some of the original MS devs are still developing the software. It works even better if it matters.
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CopperHound posted:Does QNAP support growing an array with mismatched drives yet? That seems like it could be an important consideration for a consumer NAS. That is an excellent point I'd forgotten to research! Thank you for reminding me! Lowen SoDium posted:I don't have an opinion on the NAS' you are looking at, but your Shield TV should play back pretty much anything without transcoding. I am not sure how to set that up in the Plex client, but you can do it with Kodi, and there is a Kodi/Plex plugin that you can use if you want to use Plex's library. I do that but with Emby instead of Plex. I've tried both, I'm currently using the Shield TV as the Plex server and it shits the bed on anything with subtitles. I'd also like the option to stream to underpowered clients later, hence looking for NAS boxes with hardware transcoding support. redeyes posted:There is always Stablebit Drivepool which is the spiritual successor to WHS. In fact some of the original MS devs are still developing the software. It works even better if it matters. I'm using drivepool now, it's been great! I don't want to manage a real server any more though, I've run out of free time and was hoping for a NAS that was pretty hands off after I got it up and running. Also had a hell of a time finding modern computer in a case sized like my HP N54L. Tivac fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Nov 29, 2018 |
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Nov 29, 2018 05:16
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Just get a synology 918+ for now great for Plex
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Nov 29, 2018 05:58
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My synology DS1817+ shows up tomorrow and I can't wait to get migrated over to the new chassis, coming from a DS416j. That 918+ looks like it would have been fuckin ideal in my situation, but when I first set this up either it wasn't out or was way more expensive. 4x 8TB disks in that DS416j which is bursting at the seams, gotta copy it down to the new NAS on the newly shucked 4x 8TB whitelabel easystore reds, then move those disks from the old NAS into the new NAS for 8x 8TB, then the old 4TB i first started with into the OLD NAS where they first were in, and then I think I should be good finally!!! Pain in the dick!! At least the staging of the drives looks like a movie prop 
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Nov 29, 2018 06:21
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Tivac posted:That is an excellent point I'd forgotten to research! Thank you for reminding me! If I were you I would possibly move to unRAID. That is in fact the only thing on my radar and I use DrivePool too. I'd use a Synology over a QNAP personally though I prefer unRAID.
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This is quite a nice looking box https://www.synology.com/en-uk/products/RS1619xs+ Suffers from the usual Synology trait of not having enough RAM in, but that's an easy fix. Kind of feel it's time for them to move beyond strict RAID definitions though and onto more intelligent ways of distributing blocks based on maybe setting different acceptable risk levels for data, to try and make four bay units more viable without having to set them up as RAID10. Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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Nov 30, 2018 00:13
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Pulling the trigger on the Synology 918+, also gonna grab a few drives. Are the WD MyBook 8TB worth shucking, or should I pony up for the WD EasyStore 8TB from BB? They're currently about $50 more expensive but still $50 cheaper than buying an 8TB WD Red directly.
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Nov 30, 2018 08:03
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My Books are WD Blues afaik, 64mb cache, 5400rpm
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Nov 30, 2018 08:07
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Can you please wait a week or two? The EasyStores almost always drop.
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Nov 30, 2018 08:11
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Tivac posted:Pulling the trigger on the Synology 918+, also gonna grab a few drives. Dec 6th, BB is supposed to be doing more deals on hard drives, per their own website. Unknown model and size at this time, but history indicates they'll probably be EasyStore, and probably 8 or 10TB.
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G-Prime posted:Dec 6th, BB is supposed to be doing more deals on hard drives, per their own website. Unknown model and size at this time, but history indicates they'll probably be EasyStore, and probably 8 or 10TB. Oh rad, I'll hang back for a bit then and see what pops!
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Tivac posted:Pulling the trigger on the Synology 918+, also gonna grab a few drives. WD Elements 8TB are even cheaper and are usually HGST DC320s.
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Dec 1, 2018 03:33
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8TB Easystores down to $139 from BestBuy via eBay.
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Thanks for this!
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forbidden dialectics posted:WD Elements 8TB are even cheaper and are usually HGST DC320s.
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Also $139.99 on bestbuy.com
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Just opened a 4TB easystore to expand my pool, and it's got a WD Blue in it. Should I try and swap it? Or is it only the 8 and 10TB easystores that have red/white drives in them?
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Dec 5, 2018 04:38
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borkencode posted:Just opened a 4TB easystore to expand my pool, and it's got a WD Blue in it. Should I try and swap it? Or is it only the 8 and 10TB easystores that have red/white drives in them? Only the 8TB for sure, dunno about the 10. The 4 is whoknowswhat.
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Dec 5, 2018 06:31
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I've done 8 8TBs and all are red/white. My two 4TBs were blue.
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A friend of mine just shucked a 4TB last night and got a red. Guess he was extremely lucky.
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Finally got my old NAS upgraded into the shiny new Synology chassis, pool expanded and volume expanded, with some legroom to breathe! 8x8TB WDs, half reds (EFAX) half white-label reds (EMAZ)  Hurray for no more space anxiety for a while! But there's more! This DS1817+ Synology box has an expansion port - so of course i'm going to put in the front-side SSD cache.  1 TB of Raid 0 SSD Cache? why the gently caress not  Burly.
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I assume you are running 10G ethernet? Otherwise I don't get what those SSDs will give you. I mean I am jealous as hell!
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It's one or the other - 10g NIC or SSD Cache board. It natively has 4x 1G teamed nics for I/O, which is also far more than sufficient for my use case but poo poo like time capsule gets rapidly improved with the front-end read cache, regardless of interconnect pipe size. Thanks, cheap storage? I mean the pair of 512gb Crucial M.2 Sata SSDs that do the cache were $75 each and the addin card was $150, so for $300 having small file transactions instantaneous? Why the hell not! Sniep fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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Dec 5, 2018 22:12
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Even though I like synology, the one big drawback is its hardware age. QNAP and even ASUS have 10G units shipped without an added cost.
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At least you get to pick and choose what's more important to you - the option of either Ridiculously Fast Line Rates, orrrrr Ridiculously Fast Small File IOPS For my use case the latter made more sense since it's just my home server, but if you wanna slop raw HD video clips around all day with a team, then sure go 10gbit vs. the built in 4gbit It does kinda suck though that they wont just put the 10g port on the box itself tho - I wonder what it'd add to the cost of the unit if they did?
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FWIW, I just shucked two of these and both were white label drives (WD80EMAZ). I'll see if I can get them to work in my old DS215j, sounds like worst case scenario is I have to tape over the 3.3v pins for it to play nice. E: Works swimmingly without any messing with the pins. The 215j is still not exactly an awesome NAS, but it can sit next to the router and store stuff which is about all I need. Xerophyte fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Dec 6, 2018 |
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poo poo, I popped into this thread to ask if it would be worth it to put the 2x2tb HDDs in my old, slow, and loud DNS-321 with a diskless Synology DS218j that is on sale for $135 at Amazon but lol just gonna do this instead. thanks, goons.
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Xerophyte posted:FWIW, I just shucked two of these and both were white label drives (WD80EMAZ). I'll see if I can get them to work in my old DS215j, sounds like worst case scenario is I have to tape over the 3.3v pins for it to play nice. Same, both were WD80EMAZ and worked easily in my DS918+!
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Xerophyte posted:FWIW, I just shucked two of these and both were white label drives (WD80EMAZ). I'll see if I can get them to work in my old DS215j, sounds like worst case scenario is I have to tape over the 3.3v pins for it to play nice. You only have to do the tape mod if the power supply has a 3.3 V line in the first place. This is generally only an issue when installing the drive into a PC; external enclosures or NAS boxes probably won't provide 3.3 V.
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10tb easystore for $180 are today's doorbuster over at Best Buy: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-easystore-10tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-with-32gb-easystore-usb-flash-drive-black/6290669.p?skuId=6290669
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Hello I would like to ask a question about safe data backups. My computer has full disk encryption, and I would like to backup my files securely. Are there any cloud backup services that can automatically my data using PGP and only give me access to the private key? If not, what else can I do to store my data securely, I do not want a third party have access to a private key.
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I virtualize FreeNAS with an LSI card passed through for my storage. Right now I have 2 mirrored stripes composed of 2x 4TB drives each for a total of 8TB of usable space. On the same system I virtualize Windows Server 2016 which runs most of my services. FreeNAS is only used for storage and ZFS. I take periodic snapshots of data but have never had to use them. I need to expand the size of my pool. I had been thinking about abandoning FreeNAS, buying Stablebit Drivepool and then moving all my files over to the WS2016 install. Doing it that way I can use my 4x 4TB drives alongside the 2x 8TB drives I want to buy. Whereas in FreeNAS I would have to add another stripe to get that space, which decreases the fault tolerance of the whole thing, I think. Any thoughts? bobfather fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Dec 6, 2018 |
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Is there any modern analogue to the HP Proliant N54L that won't break the bank? I just need something in a compact chassis that will hold 4/5 drives and supports ECC RAM. Internal USB slot for me to throw the OS on is a plus but alternatively a 5th drive slot for an SSD or NVMe drive or whatever would work too but not essential. I love the N54L but the processor and RAM limitations are a tremendous bottleneck nowadays and the newer Proliants all have wonky issues that I don't want to deal with.
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Sheep posted:Is there any modern analogue to the HP Proliant N54L that won't break the bank? I just need something in a compact chassis that will hold 4/5 drives and supports ECC RAM. Internal USB slot for me to throw the OS on is a plus but alternatively a 5th drive slot for an SSD or NVMe drive or whatever would work too but not essential. I haven't seen anything like it that's not homebrewed in a mini-itx case. I'm just gonna use my N40L until it craps out then switch to the N36L on the back shelf. After that it's a 45 disk rackmount chassis with deafening fans because gently caress it.
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