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I wish I didn't live in America.  EDIT: Ugh new page, now this looks hopelessly out of place instead of an amusing joke regarding the current conversation.
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podcat posted:I think this is one of those culture clashes. I'v never understood the american "the customer is always right" mentality. If someone is abusive I think you have every right to be abusive back. As long as you listen and communicate people should man the gently caress up and not act like the world is coming to an end just because someone used the word "gently caress" to emphasise the emotional impact of the statement. Of course its better to just ignore it, but sometimes it feels good to let off some steam. The forum is a place of discussion, it isnt an official press release. It's not about reciprocity; it's about taking the high ground. This is a maneuver aimed at giving you more power in disputes, not less. You make your opposition look like children and paint them into corners. When you give up that high ground, you strengthen the relative position of critics.
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Dibujante posted:It's not about reciprocity; it's about taking the high ground. This is a maneuver aimed at giving you more power in disputes, not less. You make your opposition look like children and paint them into corners. Oh sure, just saying that rising above is not always worth the satisfaction of a good bar brawl.
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Jul 16, 2014 21:58
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If you want a brawl you just say that 15 year truces were enough for the Swedish Empire so they are good enough for the rest of the world. Then say that you are thinking about changing one of Sweden's national ideas to Truce Time -5 years. Step away and let the sparks fly.
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Jul 16, 2014 22:01
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Never stop Johan from gettin mad because its funny.
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Jul 16, 2014 22:07
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Be rude as hell to the Paradox forums because they ain't gonna stop buying the games
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Jul 16, 2014 22:10
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SeaTard posted:The amount of poo poo developers put up with is insane. Even here there will be massive arguments about all kinds of dumb things, and this place is tame compared to the official ones. As a small time indie developer, dealing with your playerbase is absolutely the worst thing about making games. A chunk of them will utterly hate you to the point of stalking and harassing you online for very menial stuff. Every minor update, every tiniest bug, every deviation from what they imagine the game should be like might as well be a personal insult to them. I can keep my cool but I completely understand Johan flipping out occasionally.
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Jul 16, 2014 22:12
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:As a small time indie developer, dealing with your playerbase is absolutely the worst thing about making games. A chunk of them will utterly hate you to the point of stalking and harassing you online for very menial stuff. Every minor update, every tiniest bug, every deviation from what they imagine the game should be like might as well be a personal insult to them. I can keep my cool but I completely understand Johan flipping out occasionally. Theres a user-post combo joke in here somewhere but I cant find it.
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Jul 16, 2014 22:14
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DStecks posted:EU4 is still effectively a multiplayer game even if you're playing it alone. What does this even mean? Is an FPS a multiplayer game if you're shooting AI-controlled dudes?
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Jul 16, 2014 22:15
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Agean90 posted:Theres a user-post combo joke in here somewhere but I cant find it. If I could nerve staple a good chunk of my players, boy howdy.
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Jul 16, 2014 22:16
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Agean90 posted:Theres a user-post combo joke in here somewhere but I cant find it. "Learn to overcome the crass demands of grognards and crybabies, for they warp the matrix through which developers perceive the playerbase..." If he had a CEO Morgan avatar it could be: "Some hardcore gamers got in among the feedback forums, and became so hysterical I felt compelled to have them nerve-stapled..."
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Jul 16, 2014 22:17
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GrossMurpel posted:What does this even mean? Is an FPS a multiplayer game if you're shooting AI-controlled dudes? To use your FPS analogy, it would be like battlefield 1942 where the single player mode is just the multiplayer maps, but with AI dudes. Same health, same weapons, same mechanics, just dumber opponents. Same thing with EU4, the single player game is just a multiplayer one, but all the dudes are AIs.
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Jul 16, 2014 22:20
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Agean90 posted:Theres a user-post combo joke in here somewhere but I cant find it. quote:We hold customers to be sacred, but we also know the foundation of fanbases consists in a stream of insults not so different from the successive rants of a mental patient. Why then cannot we cut one fan here, and start another there? Is PR so fragile that it can withstand no tampering? Does the sacred brook no improvement? 
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Jul 16, 2014 22:20
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Pornographic Memory posted:AI can be a DLC World in Flames shipped without multiplayer or AI, Paradox should just ship the HoI4 tutorial and call it a day.
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Jul 16, 2014 22:23
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:As a small time indie developer, dealing with your playerbase is absolutely the worst thing about making games. A chunk of them will utterly hate you to the point of stalking and harassing you online for very menial stuff. Every minor update, every tiniest bug, every deviation from what they imagine the game should be like might as well be a personal insult to them. I can keep my cool but I completely understand Johan flipping out occasionally. That said its also one of the best bits. its like all people. Some are chill to hang out with and some you hop over to another subway car to avoid.
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Jul 16, 2014 22:29
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Agean90 posted:To use your FPS analogy, it would be like battlefield 1942 where the single player mode is just the multiplayer maps, but with AI dudes. Same health, same weapons, same mechanics, just dumber opponents. Same thing with EU4, the single player game is just a multiplayer one, but all the dudes are AIs. I was just about to make this exact analogy.
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Jul 16, 2014 22:30
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Agean90 posted:To use your FPS analogy, it would be like battlefield 1942 where the single player mode is just the multiplayer maps, but with AI dudes. Same health, same weapons, same mechanics, just dumber opponents. I'm not entirely sure about that one.
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Jul 16, 2014 22:40
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When an AI opponent can send me hatemail where one in three words are incomprehensible slurs, ill consider it good. 
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Jul 16, 2014 22:44
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I'm not entirely sure about that one. "I can totally plane, watch me do a pass on the enemy carri--" Total Idiot has committed suicide and took a perfectly good fighter plane with him
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Jul 16, 2014 22:44
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podcat posted:Yeah very few jobs are like that. Imagine you made a car and some guy buys it and keeps driving by your house every day throwing poo poo at the wall and screaming that the car is terrible and that you should be fired, but still, he drives that car by every day rather than getting another one. We have a relevant smiley over here podcat,  So, what strategies seem the most viable with the new stuff? Tried a game of Poland and France, but got very aggressively contained by coalitions. Probably best to play a slower tempo and take advantage of the truce timings to extract lots of concessions from countries other than your primary targets, instead of just vassalising everybody in every war.
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Jul 16, 2014 23:54
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gradenko_2000 posted:Oh so that's what was that was all about? I suppose my reasoning doesn't really apply in that case, thanks for clearing it up. Yeah, the rage literally boils down to "This change will cause a small number of scenarios to be harder to expand in, namely when you have very few neighbours, and when all of your neighbours are in the same coalition. This is because Johan is literally Hitler and singleplayers are the new Jews."
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Jul 17, 2014 00:06
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Dibujante posted:Yeah, the rage literally boils down to "This change will cause a small number of scenarios to be harder to expand in, namely when you have very few neighbours, and when all of your neighbours are in the same coalition. This is because Johan is literally Hitler and singleplayers are the new Jews." This is obvious misrepresentation of the Paradox forums, no one there would speak ill of Hitler.
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Jul 17, 2014 00:17
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EUV will be an MMO, mark my words.
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Jul 17, 2014 00:20
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Pakled posted:EUV will be an MMO, mark my words. New Mission: Collect 15 cassus belli The first raid is declaring war on France.
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Jul 17, 2014 00:22
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Pakled posted:EUV will be an MMO, mark my words. Um, that is Crusader Kings 2, duh. Wait, that stands for Massively Multiplayer? Then poo poo, IV already is an MMO.
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Jul 17, 2014 00:23
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Megadyptes posted:you guys should probably tell johan to not act like a kid on the forums, swearing at the people who buy your games and calling them idiots on the official forum is amateur as gently caress especially now you're a lot bigger company than you were in the early 00's. even if half the fanbase is full of retards, they're paying retards. You are 100% wrong and Johan should continue getting angry at Paradox forum goers.
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Jul 17, 2014 01:05
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BBJoey posted:You are 100% wrong and Johan should continue getting angry at Paradox forum goers. imagine all of his angry posts in an over the top swedish accent for maximum enjoyment
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Jul 17, 2014 02:01
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Agean90 posted:imagine all of his angry posts in an over the top swedish accent for maximum enjoyment "Bork bork gently caress ai bork bork bork multiplayer borka bork meatball!"
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Jul 17, 2014 02:12
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skitstövel!
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Jul 17, 2014 02:16
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I'd play a CK2 MMO. "Okay guys we've got a comet sighted! instance. Once it goes aggro I'm going to need our Lustful Steward to give our Marshal a good tumble for the buff."
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Jul 17, 2014 02:16
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Paradox really needs to address the balance in this game. Every time I PVP with my gavelkind against a primogeniture, I get my rear end handed to me. Paradox, please nerf primogeniture.
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Jul 17, 2014 02:25
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Mantis42 posted:I'd play a CK2 MMO. Now I'm just imagining how a hypothetical game of CKII where all landed characters are human-controlled would be loving incredible.
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Jul 17, 2014 02:35
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Too many crusaders... yet not enough boats. Welp let's count how many times we can reenact the Fourth Crusade.
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bdurso posted:Paradox Grand Strategy: Man the gently caress Up Paradox Grand Strategy: Johan's about to make you his bitch. Suck it down.
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bdurso posted:Paradox Grand Strategy: Man the gently caress Up Pornographic Memory posted:Paradox Grand Strategy: Johan's about to make you his bitch. Suck it down.  [EDIT: The level of betrayal I felt when Johan told me the AI isn't a primary concern in one specific aspect of his game took something from me that I'll never be able to recover. They tore away my ability to respect anything, and they tore away my ability to feel human. Also, that is the absolute angriest photo of Johan I can find on the internet.] Epinephrine fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jul 17, 2014 |
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MinistryofLard posted:I'm having some trouble getting Wiz's AzeriMod to work on my install of Victoria II. Asking this again, because it got lost in the AIchat and the MPchat and whatever else happened. I tried deleting everything to do with AzeriV2 and unzipping it again (the AzeriV2 folder in the normal VictoriaII folder didn't appear until after I tried booting up AzeriV2), before wiping the map cache from Victoria2 and going into V2's folder in SteamApps and emptying the map cache there. Still, it just takes me to the vanilla 1836 country choices screen. I've kind of hit the end of my mod-related knowledge so any help would be appreciated, thanks again in advance. I just want to enslave America with the Cherokee
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I used to be a zealot for better, stronger, more intelligent AI. The number of times I've been dicked over by opportunistic bastards in CK2, cunning spy work that undoes all my plans at a stroke, and just general fuckery, has put paid to that.
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MinistryofLard posted:Asking this again, because it got lost in the AIchat and the MPchat and whatever else happened. This is what your file structure should look like, if this helps:   
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Kersch posted:This is what your file structure should look like, if this helps: Ah, I unzipped the mod over the install in docs rather than the one in the Steam directory.  I'm not even sure why there is an install in docs as well as one in steam. Thanks, that was really helpful. It looks like it works now 
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MinistryofLard posted:I'm not even sure why there is an install in docs as well as one in steam. The mod folder in Documents is where it keeps the settings and save files of the mod.
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