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Saki posted:Are you certain? I was sure that there was some system in place for people who had to travel far. I knew someone who signed on by post because he lived too far from the centre. My jobcentre adviser told me I couldn't be reimbursed for my sign on days. For any other appointments I could be.
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So Clifford is guilty of 8/11 counts, with a split on one of the remaining three...
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Apr 28, 2014 14:14
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Max Clifford's been found guilty on 8 counts of the indecent assault. Wonder how long the scum is going to get in prison, as with that many hes got to be getting some jail time.
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Apr 28, 2014 14:15
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bitterandtwisted posted:My jobcentre adviser told me I couldn't be reimbursed for my sign on days. For any other appointments I could be. drat that sucks. I wonder if the policy depends on the centre.
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Apr 28, 2014 14:17
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Is there any way we're going to hear that name that was bleeped out of Starsuckers? Surely we have to compel him to give that evidence or something I dunno.
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Apr 28, 2014 14:19
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bitterandtwisted posted:I don't know if things have changed in recent years, but the jobcentre was the worst place to find a job. All they had were these terminals where you could search jobs and print out the contact details. I could do the exact same search from home and it wouldn't cost me a £5 bus ticket. Plus from home I could search other sites and apply online. The jobcentre's only purpose seemed to be to make you feel worthless in front of other people.
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ukle posted:Max Clifford's been found guilty on 8 counts of the indecent assault. I thought this was coming when the judge kicked two people off and announced a majority verdict because people weren't being reasonable. I'm delighted, he all but confessed to raping people in his defence when he said "no but they never said no so it doesn't count." That was the actual defence of the king of spin. e; wow that sounded snarky, dunno where that came from. Fixed. Tolth posted:There a lot of people who will tell you that every 'sociopath' should be killed or imprisoned by default despite the fact that they'll go blank when you ask them what that word actually means. Honestly if you don't think sociopaths (with the caveat of antisocial behaviour being recorded) should be held somewhere safe until we can figure out what the gently caress will make them not dangerous then I don't really know. Which we do anyway. Although I'd agree we should probably change the testing criteria into something vaguely scientific if we're giving them automatic life sentences upon "diagnosis".
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Apr 28, 2014 14:29
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One of the major "advantages" of making people sign on everyday is it shunts a lot of unemployed people into the grey unemployed area - ie those who don't have a job but aren't signed on as they have some savings / parents / partners who can get them through while looking for jobs. If you make it harder to sign on people will look for other options. Yet another reason why "unemployment" figures are completely BS. The problem is that there is a lot of work that needs doing. We need more doctors, more nurses, more aid workers, more council workers, more infrastructure built. The list goes on. The government can produce a lot of jobs if it wanted to, but austerity and the free market are more efficient (at siphoning profits into a small amount of pockets).
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Apr 28, 2014 14:31
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26744712 posted:Setting out his case for the defence, barrister Richard Horwell QC cast doubt on evidence given so far, saying "details" had "caught out" the prosecution witnesses.
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Apr 28, 2014 14:32
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Max Cliffords penis is 2 inches and people were fairly consistent about that fyi the girl who said it was huge also said shed never seen one before and had a tiny mouth, causing the day to be ended as the jurors started laughing at him.
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Apr 28, 2014 14:34
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Clearly the only way to settle this issue and truly determine his guilt or innocence will be for him to whip it out during sentencing.
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Saki posted:drat that sucks. I wonder if the policy depends on the centre. No, he's totally right, its across the board. They will pay for interview travel if you are not on the WP, and its over an hour journey. If you are, they have approx £100 allocated to get you work clothes and travel, and that goes pretty loving quick if you are even 35 miles from London like I am and a cheapday return is over £20. My appointment was cancelled today, so I can only assume those slimy bastards may be creeping about extolling the virtues of indentured servitude. To the person whose brother's mate died; in the short term you are probably the best one for him to talk to right now. Try to dissuade him from researching depression and the like, it won't help.
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Spangly A posted:Max Cliffords penis is 2 inches and people were fairly consistent about that fyi
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Jack the Lad posted:Oh, yeah, I'm in no way attempting to cast doubt on the verdict. I just found it weird that when I googled for info that was what I came up with. I want everyone to be absolutely clear that Max Clifford is literally a rapist with a two inch penis.
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KKKlean Energy posted:I already bagsied it Hang on, shouldn't that get its own tread as per the mid-terms in the USA? You're hogging of the OP for such a niche debate in these important days is wrong. It is right that we discuss only those issues affecting the UK and not kowtow to the oppressive EU superstate!
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Saki posted:Are you certain? I was sure that there was some system in place for people who had to travel far. I knew someone who signed on by post because he lived too far from the centre. They only have to pay if you have to travel beyond a certain distance, something like 10 miles, and even then it's only for their assessments, not for regular signing on - you used to be able to opt to sign on via post if you lived that far away, but I think the tories nixed that too.
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SybilVimes posted:They only have to pay if you have to travel beyond a certain distance, something like 10 miles, and even then it's only for their assessments, not for regular signing on - you used to be able to opt to sign on via post if you lived that far away, but I think the tories nixed that too. lol so basically if you have to take one bus to the centre, assuming no travelcards and it being every weekday you need to sign on, thats ~£15 a week if on an oyster or £25 a week if you're on cash. So if you get like £70 a week, to even get it you're reduced by a £15 tax essentially. And thats assuming its just one bus. What if you had to take the tube to your nearest centre? And to those saying you should walk, what if there are no reasonable routes?
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notaspy posted:Hang on, shouldn't that get its own tread as per the mid-terms in the USA? Everyone should get involved in Junior G-mans European Elections thread!
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Pilchenstein posted:Do the Samaritans deal with that sort of thing? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Zephro fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 15:01
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Lord Twisted posted:lol so basically if you have to take one bus to the centre, assuming no travelcards and it being every weekday you need to sign on, thats ~£15 a week if on an oyster or £25 a week if you're on cash. Well, you see, then gently caress YOU
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notaspy posted:Hang on, shouldn't that get its own tread as per the mid-terms in the USA? 75% of our OPs come from europe
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I'm pretty sure that Martin Clarke just spends his days hunkered down in the corner of his office slowly wanking himself to death. Also courtesy link to Buff the Banana with Paul Dacre
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Phoon posted:75% of our OPs come from europe There are also billions of Bulgarian OPs coming over as we speak and the politically correct UKMT is not willing to deal with this terrible OP immigration problem.
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StoneOfShame posted:There are also billions of Bulgarian OPs coming over as we speak and the politically correct UKMT is not willing to deal with this terrible OP immigration problem. Well, we also know plenty of OPs have hosed off to France and Spain to retire, and languish in the sun whilst still getting winter fuel payments and coming back here to get their hip operations.
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Apr 28, 2014 15:33
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Rename Brussels Sprouts Churchill Sprouts
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Well poo poo... 61yo Teacher stabbed to death in Leeds Catholic School
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Spangly A posted:Honestly if you don't think sociopaths (with the caveat of antisocial behaviour being recorded) should be held somewhere safe until we can figure out what the gently caress will make them not dangerous then I don't really know. Which we do anyway. That caveat is huge though - you can't define a sociopath by the presence of antisocial behavior, that's why the term 'sociopath' is avoided in modern psychiatry in favor of 'antisocial personality disorder' in cases where people have shown unequivocally antisocial behavior. I'm a high-functioning sociopath - I have almost no emotional responses whatsoever and absolutely no inherent empathy at all, and my psychology is distinctly different to that of a neurotypical person. However, I'm not stupid or 'evil' - I'm smart enough to realize that antisocial behavior is ultimately a dumb-short term strategy that will only gently caress me over in the long run, despite the fact that I feel no inherent guilt whatsoever. I've never been abusive towards any of my partners, have no criminal record, and my only illegal activity has been personal hallucinogenic drug and weed use - which for the record, is a large part of the reason why I'm capable of spotting my own narcissistic traits and avoiding falling into that particular brand of insanity. I'm even particularly left-wing because I understand that right-wing economic and social policy are, again, stupid short-term mindsets that have repeatedly hosed over our society and made it an increasingly awful place to live for everyone - including me. Who are you to say that people should be imprisoned by default purely because they are different to you? Have you considered that applying the 'we should hold these people somewhere safe just in case they commit a crime' is repulsively lacking in any sort of empathy or respect for human rights whatsoever? Have you thought about previous situations in which human societies have applied that sort of logic and the results? I appreciate that a large portion of the sociopathic population are dangerously unstable retards - but creating a situation in which the condition is so intensely stigmatized that it's impossible to speak out about it in almost any public sphere only worsens that situation and makes it even more difficult to stop/fix/help low-functioning sociopaths, who certainly are a complete social tumor.
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The Work Programme place I worked for refunded anything above 2 miles, but JCP was zilch. Our biggest gripe was with drivers, since we paid petrol on the shortest route and no parking. Also, Seaside Loafer posted:I was breifly on a work programme thing after being out of work for 6 months and they made me go in there and use their poo poo computers once a week even after I explained to my 'advisor' (who was a complete oval office yes i used that word, its the only one that does the bastard justice) a zillion times how much more effective i could be looking for work with my own machince and my links etc. I found work shortly after on my own exactly how ive always done it with no help from that lot except misery. Actually wrote my MP a complaint letter and got a personal response. Gotta love that Caroline Lucas. I'm sorry a man you called a oval office to his face didn't take your word that your interview technique and Letter/CV writing skills were flawless and your internet links only existed on your own machine.
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Elfface posted:I'm sorry a man you called a oval office to his face didn't take your word that your interview technique and Letter/CV writing skills were flawless and your internet links only existed on your own machine. I don't think he called the guy a oval office to his face. Loafer's just noting that he used that word in his post with no regrets.
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Phoon posted:Rename Brussels Sprouts Churchill Sprouts
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Gonzo McFee posted:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ukip-common-sense-tour-bus-collides-with-railway-station-roof-in-portsmouth-9298280.html But were the trains OK? 
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Hahaha gently caress.
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Just got my first UKIP leaflet. I live in a pretty solidly Labour white working class area so it's a bit of a concern that the leaflet looks really flashy and well done, much better than the low-quality stuff from the other parties around here. Nigel Farage seems to think being in the EU damages "our patriotism". Also, "The idea that 3m jobs would be risked by leaving the EU is just a big lie" apparently, such an insightful statement that they repeated the same line twice.
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The REAL Racists: UKIP is the Only Party That Doesn't Discriminate Against Non-Whites oh man, the comments.
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Clapham Omnibus posted:Just got my first UKIP leaflet. I live in a pretty solidly Labour white working class area so it's a bit of a concern that the leaflet looks really flashy and well done, much better than the low-quality stuff from the other parties around here. They've set up a freepost address so you can return it at their expense: UKIP FREEPOST RLSU-HZBG-UBBG Lexdrum House Heathfield Devon TQ12 6UT Sometimes the leaflets don't fit neatly into an envelope, and if this is the case for you I'd advise against folding it. Instead, simply cut it into twenty or thirty pieces, and send each in its own envelope.
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Toot toot, British manufacturing would die unironically if we left the eu since it'd no longer be competative with German manufacturing firms because of border controls and the like. But no, it's all the eu's fault because reasons. What I'm saying is smoke weed and hail satan because Britain is hosed anyway.
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twoot posted:The REAL Racists: UKIP is the Only Party That Doesn't Discriminate Against Non-Whites A reminder that the phrase 'Anti-racist is code for anti-white' is part of a campaign by stormfront neo-nazis to try and enter the phrase in societial discourse. Thus you can assume anyone that uses that phrase is a neo-nazi.
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Party Boat posted:They've set up a freepost address so you can return it at their expense: How is this going to help a single human being? This is just purely malicious, the fact that they're scumbags doesn't mean you can just declare them Nonhumans and begin a harassment campaign.
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