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freud mayweather
Jan 29, 2009

Trast posted:

So are we looking at Aldo/Edgar II or something like Edgar/McGregor?

hopefully they just say gently caress you to frankie so we can see an interesting fight that didn't already happen. aldo/mcgregor should be such a no-brainer at this point. it will either be a changing of the guard, or it will be aldo's silva/sonnen moment. regardless of the outcome, it will make a lot more people care about featherweight than edgar's tenth title fight.

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Or it will be silva/leites

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
That was the best neck crank since Maia's where he squeezed the blood out of the dude's nose.

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.
on the wmma/low standards note from yesterday, i think last night was another example of that

how in the gently caress was vanzant/curran the fotn?

I can think of at least 3 better fights on that card after having watched it:

Cuddle Bear/Dagestani
Joey B/Ortiz
Frankie/Cub

Bullshit imo

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Yuriy posted:

on the wmma/low standards note from yesterday, i think last night was another example of that

how in the gently caress was vanzant/curran the fotn?

I can think of at least 3 better fights on that card after having watched it:

Cuddle Bear/Dagestani
Joey B/Ortiz
Frankie/Cub

Bullshit imo

Dana might have wanted to give two rookies in a new division a bump for publicity. They liked Van Zant enough to sign her directly just because she couldn't be in the TUF house.

Schenck v. U.S.
Sep 8, 2010

Mr. Nice! posted:

That was the best neck crank since Maia's where he squeezed the blood out of the dude's nose.

Frankie's corner kept telling him between rounds that he needed to finish Swanson, and I think he had that on his mind as the fight wore on. He'd gotten into good positions and tried to finish by gnp and rear naked earlier in the fight but not quite managed it, and then at the very end he took Cub's back and got in another spot where he could finish. Right then he heard the ten second warning and I think he must have just decided to go for broke, grab Cub's head and twist it as hard as he could because there was no time for anything else.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
If I'm not mistaken, Cub now has the honor of being the victim of the earliest and now latest stoppages at featherweight :laugh:

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.

1st AD posted:

If I'm not mistaken, Cub now has the honor of being the victim of the earliest and now latest stoppages at featherweight :laugh:

Nope

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hominick

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
gently caress

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Trast posted:

Dana might have wanted to give two rookies in a new division a bump for publicity. They liked Van Zant enough to sign her directly just because she couldn't be in the TUF house.

The UFC twitter was also making much of the crowd reaction during that fight, which actually seemed pretty energetic considering it was the second bout of the night. There were some boos during the other candidates that people are listing here.

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.
yo, if there were boos during joey b's or frankie's fight, that's on the audience for being retarded

are you sure they weren't just cheering the nip slip (nws obv)

Yuriy fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Nov 23, 2014

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Every one of the 7 second UFC KOs involves a Canadian. (Jimmo, Hague, Hominick, Goulet).

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Yuriy posted:

yo, if there were boos during joey b's or frankie's fight, that's on the audience for being retarded

are you sure they weren't just cheering the nip slip

Hey, I didn't hand out the FOTN bonus. I'm just looking for a pattern in how they did hand it out. It could be that the main criteria is the fight which contributes the most to it being a fun live event.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything

Tezcatlipoca posted:

He beat Chael Sonnen a billion times, knocked out Forest Griffin with a head kick, beat David Loiseau before Rich Franklin broke him and choked out Chuck Liddell. What has Edgar done to surpass that?

This guy gets it

DumbWhiteGuy
Jul 4, 2007

You need haters. Fellas if you got 20 haters, you need 40 of them motherfuckers. If there's any haters in here that don't have nobody to hate on, feel free to hate on me

Yuriy posted:

yo, if there were boos during joey b's or frankie's fight, that's on the audience for being retarded

are you sure they weren't just cheering the nip slip (nws obv)

I guess this was bound to happen eventually

MycroftXXX
May 10, 2006

A Liquor Never Brewed
yet nobody cheered for hallman's balls

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

MycroftXXX posted:

yet nobody cheered for hallman's balls

I did.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything

MycroftXXX posted:

yet nobody cheered for hallman's balls

speak for yourself

Sprecherscrow
Dec 20, 2009

Yuriy posted:

on the wmma/low standards note from yesterday, i think last night was another example of that

how in the gently caress was vanzant/curran the fotn?

I can think of at least 3 better fights on that card after having watched it:

Cuddle Bear/Dagestani
Joey B/Ortiz
Frankie/Cub

Bullshit imo

None of those three were competitive though. I would've given it to Camus/Pickett personally, but I didn't actually see the women's fight.

The main was really entertaining, but it seems wrong to give fotn to a one sided mauling.

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.
you're right in that none of them were competitive but the not frankie fights left me going "wow, that motherfucker is tough" w/ cuddle bear and ortiz

Keven. Just. Keven
May 25, 2010

MY GOD. THE WILL... THE FIGHTING SPIRIT... JUST WHEN YOU THINK IT'S OVER, TSM COMES BACK STRONGER THAN EVER.

MycroftXXX posted:

yet nobody cheered for hallman's balls

Dennis Hallman stands, arms spread wide, his nuts hanging out of his speedo. "Are you not entertained?"

Gregor Samsa
Sep 5, 2007
Nietzsche's Mustache

Keven. Just. Keven posted:

Dennis Hallman stands, arms spread wide, his nuts hanging out of his speedo. "Are you not entertained?"

Hahahaha

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Keven. Just. Keven posted:

Dennis Hallman stands, arms spread wide, his nuts hanging out of his speedo. "Are you not entertained?"

:lol:

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002
i'm glad so many people came around on josh copeland

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(

Bubba Smith posted:

The coolest thing Frankie Edgar did was making sure his name will live on forever cause I don't see anybody ever getting a later finish than him unless they make title fights take more rounds, which I doubt. It's possible that someone pulls off a KO in the very last 3 seconds of the fifth round in a final fury of punches but 90% of the time both fighters are too tired and they just circle around each other cause they know they get to raise their arms up soon. Long live Frankie Edgar in the history books.

I really wish they would make all main card fights 5 rounds and title fights 7

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.

Bundt Cake posted:

I really wish they would make all main card fights 5 rounds and title fights 7

you think that but just wait till the next real stinker of a decision that we all just want to end

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009

Bundt Cake posted:

I really wish they would make all main card fights 5 rounds and title fights 7

Events are long enough already but I do think there should be some mechanism for getting potential title challengers 5 round fights whether they're the main event or not.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Yeah, I think if there's a fighter involved in a bout who's ranked in the top 5 of his division, his/her fight should be 5 rounds. If they can't do 5 against someone else, they're not going to go 5 against the champ.

That said, I wouldn't apply that to HW's because they can barely do 2 as it is.

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(

Tezcatlipoca posted:

Events are long enough already but I do think there should be some mechanism for getting potential title challengers 5 round fights whether they're the main event or not.

Part of what I like about it is that it would push shittier fighters off the main card and maybe have you know 3 decent fights instead of a wall of poo poo

Yuriy posted:

you think that but just wait till the next real stinker of a decision that we all just want to end

Sylvia v Monson didnt make me want 5 round fights to go away

Mean Bean Machine
May 9, 2008

Only when I breathe.
what a loving performance from edgar. really didn't see the fight going that way, you'd think swanson was a can if he hadn't looked so good as of late.

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.

Bundt Cake posted:

Part of what I like about it is that it would push shittier fighters off the main card and maybe have you know 3 decent fights instead of a wall of poo poo


Sylvia v Monson didnt make me want 5 round fights to go away

Part 1: I thought last night's card was pretty dang good on the main card, not "wall to wall" poo poo, but I'll admit that there is a substantial amount of poo poo even on most PPV cards

Part 2: I can handle one bad 25 minute decision on a card, the prospect of multiple ones is terrifying

Grandmaster.flv
Jun 24, 2011
Maybe we would get fighters with actual cardio.

Meowbot
Oct 12, 2005

I havent had a plrecription for my eyes in years so the other day I went and got a new one and it hasnt changed. The doctor was like why havent you seen us in 4 years? I told them im scared of op tomietris when the air shoots into your eyes and dilation. They told me my eyes cold get worse....
Regarding the latest stoppage in history - wasn't Thiago Silva/Machida the latest in terms of SECONDS not rounds? That was literally at the bell. I loved that knock out!

I laughed pretty hard at the comment about all of the 7 second knock outs being Canadians. Wonder why that is?

I'm glad the Vanzant fight got fight of the night because as an entertainment point of view it was the most exciting back and forth all night. The other girl also took like 20 knees to the face so there is that too.

Good night of fights. Can't wait to see what develops in the featherweight division from this. I hope Siver beats McGregor but that doesn't even seem like an option at this point. I bet when that fight happens he will be like a 5 to 1 underdog because of the hype train and the fact that McGregor is well kinda good.

Lord Waffle Beard
Dec 7, 2013

Meowbot posted:

Regarding the latest stoppage in history - wasn't Thiago Silva/Machida the latest in terms of SECONDS not rounds? That was literally at the bell. I loved that knock out!

I laughed pretty hard at the comment about all of the 7 second knock outs being Canadians. Wonder why that is?

I'm glad the Vanzant fight got fight of the night because as an entertainment point of view it was the most exciting back and forth all night. The other girl also took like 20 knees to the face so there is that too.

Good night of fights. Can't wait to see what develops in the featherweight division from this. I hope Siver beats McGregor but that doesn't even seem like an option at this point. I bet when that fight happens he will be like a 5 to 1 underdog because of the hype train and the fact that McGregor is well kinda good.

Siver is +600 atm

Ein
Feb 27, 2002
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Meowbot posted:

Regarding the latest stoppage in history - wasn't Thiago Silva/Machida the latest in terms of SECONDS not rounds? That was literally at the bell. I loved that knock out!


Just going by memory so I might be wrong, but Penn/Sherk was stopped on/after the bell. BJ even decided to call it a TKO himself.

Meowbot
Oct 12, 2005

I havent had a plrecription for my eyes in years so the other day I went and got a new one and it hasnt changed. The doctor was like why havent you seen us in 4 years? I told them im scared of op tomietris when the air shoots into your eyes and dilation. They told me my eyes cold get worse....

Lord Waffle Beard posted:

Siver is +600 atm

Thanks, I just checked and McGregor is -1050 and Siver is +600

Even though I live in Las Vegas I've never bet on MMA (going to keep that as a rule), and don't fully understand how betting lines work. Does this mean that if you bet 100 bucks and Siver wins you get 600 bucks and if you bet $1050 and McGregor wins you get $100?

Lord Waffle Beard
Dec 7, 2013

Meowbot posted:

Thanks, I just checked and McGregor is -1050 and Siver is +600

Even though I live in Las Vegas I've never bet on MMA (going to keep that as a rule), and don't fully understand how betting lines work. Does this mean that if you bet 100 bucks and Siver wins you get 600 bucks and if you bet $1050 and McGregor wins you get $100?

Yeah minus how much the casino takes

Xyretire
May 22, 2003
Lickin' the Gun.

Meowbot posted:

Thanks, I just checked and McGregor is -1050 and Siver is +600

Even though I live in Las Vegas I've never bet on MMA (going to keep that as a rule), and don't fully understand how betting lines work. Does this mean that if you bet 100 bucks and Siver wins you get 600 bucks and if you bet $1050 and McGregor wins you get $100?

Pretty sure that's how it works, yes.

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009

Meowbot posted:

Thanks, I just checked and McGregor is -1050 and Siver is +600

Even though I live in Las Vegas I've never bet on MMA (going to keep that as a rule), and don't fully understand how betting lines work. Does this mean that if you bet 100 bucks and Siver wins you get 600 bucks and if you bet $1050 and McGregor wins you get $100?

Yes

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2 fat 4 my lambo
Oct 9, 2003

WEED POOP

Meowbot posted:

Regarding the latest stoppage in history - wasn't Thiago Silva/Machida the latest in terms of SECONDS not rounds? That was literally at the bell. I loved that knock out!

Thiago and Sherk were technically stopped after the bell when they couldn't get to their corners.

GSP tapped against Hughes with 1 second left in the round

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