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NikkolasKing posted:What's Sephiroth's DLC outfit gonna be? He's more important and popular than everyone you listed, except maybe Cloud. Hot nude XXX action.
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NikkolasKing posted:What's Sephiroth's DLC outfit gonna be? He's more important and popular than everyone you listed, except maybe Cloud.
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Jun 18, 2015 23:18
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MonsieurChoc posted:It's the same reaction people have whenever a remake is announced, like recently with the Dwayne Johnson Big Trouble in Little China project. We know next to nothing about the project, and people are already screaming blasphemy. Wait, what? I totally missed this. Normally, I think it's a waste of everything involved to remake a classic/old movie (Red Dawn), but every now and then, something comes along that makes me go, "Hmm... yeah... that sounds interesting.". This is one of those things. Hace posted:Orchestras are played out, crazy synth and guitar are rad. The entire soundtrack will be redone in dubstep, by KoЯn.
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Jun 18, 2015 23:25
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MonsieurChoc posted:DLC costumes. OK, what about a movie viewer like in MGS2:Substance where you can view any cinematic and swap any character model for any other? Kind of like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DD2kv1KPNo
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Jun 19, 2015 03:58
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NikkolasKing posted:What's Sephiroth's DLC outfit gonna be? He's more important and popular than everyone you listed, except maybe Cloud. Since Gackt has told Square where to shove it, my next theory would be Tetsuya Nomura himself. vvvv I'm not sure, I'm just going by word-of-mouth from this thread. darealkooky posted:This is actually the one thing that people can say with 100% certainty isn't going to happen KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Jun 19, 2015 |
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Jun 19, 2015 04:12
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Out of curiosity, what happened between Gackt and Square?
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Jun 19, 2015 04:20
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Elentor posted:Out of curiosity, what happened between Gackt and Square? I'd like to know that myself. I honestly haven't heard of this. And I can't find anything using Google on this. Silegna fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Jun 19, 2015 |
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Jun 19, 2015 05:02
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This is the first I've heard of any bad blood between the two as well. Gackt isn't quite the superstar he once was and I figured that was the only reason he hasn't been in anything in the last several years. I like Gackt's music for the most part - in fact way back when this thread started we had a discussion of Malice Mizer. (this thread feels like it's been going as long as MM has been disbanded) But I'm glad he won't be in FFVII. I liked the rock music in Advent Children and Crisis Core but I don't want any rock or metal in FFVII Remake. Is Uematsu still in a rock/metal phase? It all started with FFX of course and then he went on to found The Black Mages but I'm not sure if they're still a thing.
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Jun 19, 2015 06:19
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What I wanna know is who the hell is Gackt, what does he have to do with Final Fantasy (I stopped paying attention to anything after XII) and why is he named after a Nickelodeon toy?
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Jun 19, 2015 06:56
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MR. J posted:What I wanna know is who the hell is Gackt, what does he have to do with Final Fantasy (I stopped paying attention to anything after XII) and why is he named after a Nickelodeon toy? He is/was a super popular Japanese singer. That's mostly it.
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Jun 19, 2015 06:58
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In particular, he's a (formerly) famous J-pop singer that Nomura is a huge fan of. A lot of his designs come from the particular music/fashion scene Gackt was in at any given time.
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Jun 19, 2015 07:24
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NikkolasKing posted:This is the first I've heard of any bad blood between the two as well. Gackt isn't quite the superstar he once was and I figured that was the only reason he hasn't been in anything in the last several years. Uematsu's was always rooted in rock and metal. It long predates most FF games as I remember. As we got to the Playstation generation the technology allowed him to imitate it better, but I'm reluctant to call it a phase
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Jun 19, 2015 07:30
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I don't remember any rock songs in FFVII-IX. Maybe Dark Messenger, kinda? There's absolutely nothing on par with Otherworld which is why Otherworld is kind of a cult hit by this point. It was so unexpected from an FF game.MR. J posted:What I wanna know is who the hell is Gackt, what does he have to do with Final Fantasy (I stopped paying attention to anything after XII) and why is he named after a Nickelodeon toy? He's the singer. He was one of the biggest stars in Japan for about a decade or a little more; from the late 90s through all of the 00's.
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Jun 19, 2015 12:59
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KataraniSword posted:In particular, he's a (formerly) famous J-pop singer that Nomura is a huge fan of. A lot of his designs come from the particular music/fashion scene Gackt was in at any given time. You're telling me actual humans wore something like Tidus's outfit, before FFX was a thing?
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Jun 19, 2015 13:33
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Hace posted:Orchestras are played out, crazy synth and guitar are rad. It will be all dubstep, with Skrillex credited for Wubby Chocobo
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Jun 19, 2015 13:40
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Senior Woodchuck posted:You're telling me actual humans wore something like Tidus's outfit, before FFX was a thing? Squall's outfit is basically exactly the same thing Gackt wore at one point. GIS Gackt + Squall.
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Jun 19, 2015 13:58
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Senior Woodchuck posted:You're telling me actual humans wore something like Tidus's outfit, before FFX was a thing? As a costume for a concert, not as everyday wear for all climates and situations.
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Jun 19, 2015 14:39
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Ostensibly, anyway.
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Jun 19, 2015 14:45
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I can't even think Tidus' clothes look weird anymore after seeing poo poo like Nooj. The kid looks downright sensible.
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Jun 19, 2015 14:47
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Tidus just has an extremely warm chest and extremely cold right knee.
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Jun 19, 2015 15:26
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NikkolasKing posted:I don't remember any rock songs in FFVII-IX. Maybe Dark Messenger, kinda? There's absolutely nothing on par with Otherworld which is why Otherworld is kind of a cult hit by this point. It was so unexpected from an FF game. The VII boss battle music is very rock, in so far as MIDI allows for rock. The Black Mages version of it is remarkable in that it only sounds slightly different than the game version. dupersaurus fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Jun 19, 2015 |
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Jun 19, 2015 15:45
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I know poo poo about technology and the like but the PS1 version used MIDI? I thought MIDI was what the PC version used. It was a horribly inferior version of the soundtrack that sounded a lot more...uh, simplistic I guess you could call it.
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Jun 19, 2015 15:57
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NikkolasKing posted:I know poo poo about technology and the like but the PS1 version used MIDI? I thought MIDI was what the PC version used. It was a horribly inferior version of the soundtrack that sounded a lot more...uh, simplistic I guess you could call it. Technically MIDI is just a script. Quality depends on the thing reading the MIDI.
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(I am not a MIDI expert—feel free to correct me/take with a grain of salt) Tons of games, old and new, have MIDIs, with samples on piano rolls/music sheet-type things. If you listen to a few PSX games with music done by the same composer released relatively close to each other, they even use the same samples for every game, even though the songs are different. It's kind of like when you search Youtube for "remastered" versions of game songs, and it's all people using the same overused sample pack in FruityLoops. MIDI isn't limited to just old PC games. The reason FF7 PC's MIDIs sound crappy compared to the PSX version is because the PSX version's MIDIs were made with better samples. Your sound card isn't going to have the same synthetic instruments the composer used for the PSX version, though different sound cards and soundfonts will all make the PC version sound different. As I know it, anything that wasn't made to be played MIDI-style with a custom soundfont was a CD track made without the restrictions of MIDI. Some PSX games, like Silhouette Mirage, had their entire soundtrack that way. You could pop the game into any CD player (including the PSX itself) and enjoy the music anytime. Most GBA and DS game music (just for two examples) can be dumped to MIDI format, with a soundfont file that goes with it. Play the MIDI file in your media player of choice with the corresponding soundfont, and the result is a MIDI that sounds exactly like the source. This also allows you to listen to GBA music without the static. MIDI isn't inherently bad; it's all about the soundfonts. Though, General MIDI and the FM synth from lower-end, 1990s sound cards have nostalgia value these days.
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Just to clarify, what the various consoles use is not "MIDI" per se -- that refers to a very specific PC file format. They each do their own proprietary MIDI-like equivalent.
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Jun 19, 2015 18:06
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This entire video looks like it came straight out of the homebrew Beatmania scene.
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NikkolasKing posted:
I can forgive SE's infatuation with Gackt because that same strange impulse is also what has them continuing to let Yoko Taro make games. I'd be  if they made a DLC costume pack from Drakengard/Nier.EDIT: Cloud->Caim Barret->(father) Nier Tifa->Eris Aeris->Manah lol Red XIII->Mikhail Cait Sith->P-33 & Young Shade Cid->Urick Vincent->Leonard Yuffie->Khaine Sephiroth->Zero 
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Jun 19, 2015 19:30
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Kalenn Istarion posted:It will be all dubstep, with Skrillex credited for Wubby Chocobo If this remake legit puts in an alternate Chocodubstep theme, mission accomplished.
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Jun 19, 2015 19:46
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MIDI is an encoding and communications protocol for telling electronic instruments how to play nice among each other. Note pitch, duration, vibrato, etc. the sound quality comes from the synthesizer or sampler playing it back. It's like a piece of sheet music for an (and just about any at this point) electronic, microprocessor-controlled instrument. Like a cello solo written by Bach and then played by me vs. Yo-Yo Ma.
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Jun 19, 2015 20:10
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FinalGamer posted:Yanno we haven't had a Chocobo de Wub song yet, I mean we've had every other genre so it's only a matter of time. Here's one for you.
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Jun 19, 2015 20:49
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SirPhoebos posted:a good idea Oh good Lord, it didn't hit me that this is actually possible.
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Jun 19, 2015 20:50
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So the remake is being done now before everyone gets too old.quote:“To put it simply, one of main reasons is the timing for the staff members that are developing the game, and how it worked out in our favor,” Nomura elaborates. “Also, as we’ve seen, Square Enix now has more PlayStation 4 titles, so we felt that we could increase the console’s popularity, and make an announcement before those games release. And there’s one more thing—we’re hitting that age.” http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/19/why-square-enix-decided-to-finally-make-the-final-fantasy-vii-remake/
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SirPhoebos posted:I can forgive SE's infatuation with Gackt because that same strange impulse is also what has them continuing to let Yoko Taro make games. Yes, this would get my money.
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Jun 20, 2015 06:58
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FillInTheBlank posted:So the remake is being done now before everyone gets too old.
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Okay no that's pretty rad I enjoyed that thanks.  FillInTheBlank posted:So the remake is being done now before everyone gets too old. holy poo poo Nomura is 45 I thought he was like mid-30s. 
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FinalGamer posted:holy poo poo Nomura is 45 I thought he was like mid-30s. Then he would have been making these games in high school. VII came out in what, 1997? That's almost twenty years ago.
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Nidoking posted:Then he would have been making these games in high school. VII came out in what, 1997? That's almost twenty years ago. Well he was making 'em just after high school, iirc he was a monster spriter for FF4.
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The White Dragon posted:Well he was making 'em just after high school, iirc he was a monster spriter for FF4. Sure, and he'd have been in elementary school then, or junior high at the latest, if he were 35 today. I doubt the available tools for 3D modeling in Playstation games would have been very accessible to high schoolers. I don't doubt they're better today, but they were pretty new at the time, weren't they?
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Jun 20, 2015 19:53
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I wonder why they never did anything with that PS3 FF7 tech demo? Everyone knew it would be basically printing money and yet nothing ever became of it.
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Ak Gara posted:I wonder why they never did anything with that PS3 FF7 tech demo? Everyone knew it would be basically printing money and yet nothing ever became of it. All it takes is to read any thread about FF7 or its remake to figure out why they'd be hesitant to actually release anything until they're good and ready.
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