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In MA, restaurants now how to post a vague warning to "ask your server" about potential allergens. The Health Inspector was breaking our balls over it: since it's not on the printed menus, she demanded that TWO signs (of at least letter sized paper) be posted inside.
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Jul 6, 2017 14:46
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Squashy Nipples posted:In MA, restaurants now how to post a vague warning to "ask your server" about potential allergens. Does that mean they believe there are people with actual diagnosed allergies out there who won't ask if the food they are buying has the potential to kill them unless they read a warning about it?
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Jul 6, 2017 20:13
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DekeThornton posted:Does that mean they believe there are people with actual diagnosed allergies out there who won't ask if the food they are buying has the potential to kill them unless they read a warning about it? Remember this doesn't work on the scale of "what's reasonable for an individual person", it works on the basis of "what minimizes damage on the scale of hundreds of millions of people, even if the individuals affected are the stupidest one in ten million".
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Jul 7, 2017 05:36
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Waci posted:Remember this doesn't work on the scale of "what's reasonable for an individual person", it works on the basis of "what minimizes damage on the scale of hundreds of millions of people, even if the individuals affected are the stupidest one in ten million".
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Jul 7, 2017 08:01
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DekeThornton posted:Does that mean they believe there are people with actual diagnosed allergies out there who won't ask if the food they are buying has the potential to kill them unless they read a warning about it? there are definitely people out there who might not realize peanut oil is a thing, etc
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Jul 7, 2017 16:47
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In all my time serving, I've been asked about allergens twice, both right when I first interacted with the customers. Both actually had to do with the deep fryers: one was allergic to shellfish, so was wondering how we cooked ours (deep fried), and the other was "what oil do you use in the fryers?" (because of a peanut oil allergy). I've had a few people go "oh, I can't eat your bread, so I won't order any" (because gluten, for whatever reason), so at least they aren't asking us "DO YOU HAVE GLUTEN FREE BREAD?  "
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Jul 7, 2017 16:53
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Here is the official MA rule:quote:All restaurants, including those with menus and menu boards, are required to include the following statement on all menus. Details: http://www.themassrest.org/allergens.html
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Jul 7, 2017 17:09
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iospace posted:In all my time serving, I've been asked about allergens twice, both right when I first interacted with the customers. Both actually had to do with the deep fryers: one was allergic to shellfish, so was wondering how we cooked ours (deep fried), and the other was "what oil do you use in the fryers?" (because of a peanut oil allergy). I've had a few people go "oh, I can't eat your bread, so I won't order any" (because gluten, for whatever reason), so at least they aren't asking us "DO YOU HAVE GLUTEN FREE BREAD? yeah, in my experience, anyone who has a legit allergy is smart enough to state it up front and ask those types of questions. They have a decent idea of things they can and cannot eat at restaurants, know that fryers can be dangerous, etc. the dumb ones were almost always no gluten types. A few weeks ago, I was out, and this table couldn't wrap their head around why the restaurant couldn't magically make prepped food gluten free.
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Jul 7, 2017 17:45
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There is a non-trivial amount of will it takes me to not ask the gluten free crowd "Did you actually get diagnosed or did you read something online and went 'THAT'S ME!'" or went to 5 doctors to finally get the diagnosis they wanted, either or.
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Jul 7, 2017 17:51
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my parents got a genetic test to confirm they should be gluten free  Ordering at a restaurant was so absurd with all their bullshit dietary restrictions that they were ultimately flexible with that I will not go out with them again unless they already know the item they'll order.
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Jul 7, 2017 17:53
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We sell a fair amount of gluten free pizza, but a lot of customers have a hard time understanding that not all of the toppings are GF. Like the pesto sauce, and the tortilla strips (that go on the taco pizza). Often times, an electronic order will come in, and we will have to call and explain that the toppings that they want aren't gluten free... and most of the time, they say "no problem, that's what I want". After paying an extra 4 bucks for a 12-inch gluten-free pizza crust. 
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Jul 7, 2017 17:56
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Half the problem is people are convinced that gluten = bad in a way similar to fat, for whatever reason, and that ok, some is fine. When in reality it's entirely fine, unless you have celiac disease. What I'm saying is Doctor Oz needs to be taken off the air yesterday.
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Jul 7, 2017 18:02
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Squashy Nipples posted:We sell a fair amount of gluten free pizza, but a lot of customers have a hard time understanding that not all of the toppings are GF. Like the pesto sauce, and the tortilla strips (that go on the taco pizza). Often times, an electronic order will come in, and we will have to call and explain that the toppings that they want aren't gluten free... and most of the time, they say "no problem, that's what I want". My son is coeliac and I'd never order him a GF pizza because there is so much flour around from regular pizzas that's there's no way it wouldn't be significantly contaminated. We buy ready-made GF pizza bases and make them at home instead.
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Jul 7, 2017 18:10
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iospace posted:bad in a way similar to fat even fat isn't really bad tho
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Jul 7, 2017 18:11
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Squashy Nipples posted:We sell a fair amount of gluten free pizza, but a lot of customers have a hard time understanding that not all of the toppings are GF. Like the pesto sauce Did you just add wheat for fun?
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Jul 7, 2017 18:15
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I have some trinidad scorps I want to make into a hot sauce. I already have a big batch of Kung Pao (thai bird type cultivar) / habanero general purpose sauce that has a bit of garlic. any suggestions for what to do with scorps? maybe a jerk style thing?
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Jul 7, 2017 18:38
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Simmer them in neutral oil and make scorpion oil. I'm not sure what you'd use scorpion oil for, but it sounds cool. Scorpion oil.
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Jul 7, 2017 18:40
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ulmont posted:Did you just add wheat for fun? I always thought that cheap sauces used wheat as a light thickener, or something to keep it shelf stable.
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Jul 7, 2017 18:45
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therattle posted:My son is coeliac and I'd never order him a GF pizza because there is so much flour around from regular pizzas that's there's no way it wouldn't be significantly contaminated. We buy ready-made GF pizza bases and make them at home instead. I remember when people got excited that Hungry Howie's had gluten-free crust 
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Jul 7, 2017 19:18
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I love gluten and will gladly take all the gluten that other people don't want. Give me all the gluten. If I ever developed a sensitivity to it or was diagnosed with Crohn's disease, I'm not saying I'd put a gun in my mouth, but it would cross my mind.
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Jul 7, 2017 19:24
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ulmont posted:Did you just add wheat for fun? It's a pizza shop, nothing is actually cooked on premises (except for the burgers). So the premade sauce has a gluten warning on the label, I never thought that much about it. Jyrraeth posted:I always thought that cheap sauces used wheat as a light thickener, or something to keep it shelf stable. Yeah, probably something like this. therattle posted:My son is coeliac and I'd never order him a GF pizza because there is so much flour around from regular pizzas that's there's no way it wouldn't be significantly contaminated. We buy ready-made GF pizza bases and make them at home instead. He'd probably be OK with the Unchained Pizza Gluten-Free pizza. The crusts come frozen, with each on in their own aluminum baking tin, so they don't touch the inside of the oven. And then the boss has strict rules: GF pizzas are prepared away from the pizza tossing area, and you can only use unopened containers of sauce and cheese. Finally, there is a separate pizza wheel that is only used on GF pizza (white handle, not black). The boss man is really strict about this. Still... I've suggested that this might not be enough for someone who actually has coeliac, and he got angry with me. So now, when someone asks, we explain all the measures we go through, but reiterate that we make no guarantees. Thankfully, no one has complained.
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Jul 7, 2017 19:26
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Bob Morales posted:I remember when people got excited that Hungry Howie's had gluten-free crust Hungry Howie's is the best lovely pizza. They are legit as hell about their flavored sauce bread. Yeah it's fluffy tinny face-shoving food, eat it fatty. Hell yes we will put ranch dressing on the crust if you pay us. I wish them and 5 Guys served beer, then I would be junk food happy forever. Suspect Bucket fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jul 7, 2017 |
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Jul 7, 2017 19:26
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5 Guys sucks tho
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Jul 7, 2017 19:31
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Mr. Wiggles posted:5 Guys sucks tho true facts
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Jul 7, 2017 20:33
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkaIoH6Um60
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Jul 7, 2017 20:38
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iospace posted:Half the problem is people are convinced that gluten = bad in a way similar to fat, for whatever reason, and that ok, some is fine. When in reality it's entirely fine, unless you have celiac disease. Every now and then I search for health and weight loss tips. Oh, so I can eat as much as I want as long as it's meat, eh? And if I drink pomegranate juice with it I can prevent cancer? Then I look at the URL and gently caress me it's Dr Mercola.
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Jul 7, 2017 20:48
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Squashy Nipples posted:It's a pizza shop, nothing is actually cooked on premises (except for the burgers). So the premade sauce has a gluten warning on the label, I never thought that much about it. Your boss takes it seriously. I'd probably get pizza from there. The only risk is human; people just not being careful enough. It can happen so easily, without any malice. People with coeliac disease can react to as little as 20ppm gluten.
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Jul 7, 2017 22:35
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Mr. Wiggles posted:5 Guys sucks tho Better than In and Out
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Jul 7, 2017 22:53
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That Works posted:Better than In and Out lol lookit how wrong this guy is
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Jul 7, 2017 22:54
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I like In N Out too, but we don't have them on this coast. So Five Guys and it's free peanuts reigns burger supreme when I'm wanting a burger that's not a Bubba off my own grill or my own smashburger when I feel like dealing with that. Bubba Burgers are good tho when you don't want to make your own. Hot and fast!
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Jul 7, 2017 23:04
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GrAviTy84 posted:lol lookit how wrong this guy is In and Out is Wendys with a longer line.
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Jul 7, 2017 23:57
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Wendy's is quite variable. I still remember one Wendy's burger I got in the sticks that was very good. I suppose you just need to find a town where it's the main restaurant.
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Jul 8, 2017 00:18
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:Wendy's is quite variable. I still remember one Wendy's burger I got in the sticks that was very good. I suppose you just need to find a town where it's the main restaurant. Yeah I like Wendys. I liked In and Out too but neither justifies any sort of hype. In and Out was probably the biggest hype:letdown ratio I've had in a long time. I thought Five guys was better than either. But it's all still not Whataburger.
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Jul 8, 2017 00:20
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That Works posted:Yeah I like Wendys. I liked In and Out too but neither justifies any sort of hype. In and Out was probably the biggest hype:letdown ratio I've had in a long time. I thought Five guys was better than either. But it's all still not Whataburger. Whataburger def better than 5 guys. Srynotsry It's all fast food though. Getting hyped about fast food is kind of silly imo As far as fast food burgers goes, shake shack wins, followed by smash, then in n out, whataburg, five guys
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Jul 8, 2017 02:05
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GrAviTy84 posted:Whataburger def better than 5 guys. Srynotsry I'm just glad that others can recognize Whataburger supremacy.
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Jul 8, 2017 02:06
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Whataburger > 5 Guys > Cookout > Wendys In 'n Out is a west coast myth that probably sucks.
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Jul 8, 2017 17:59
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Comparing In 'n' Out to Five Guys is kind of pointless. In 'n' Out is the McDonald's/Burger King burger perfected: good ingredients cooked well for not much money. Five Guys has a totally different business model and totally different burgers. If I had to pick a favorite, it'd be In 'n' Out, but I just don't like Five Guys very much. I don't like their buns, they smash a finished burger and then put it in the bottom of the bag so it steams, and even if you're eating there they won't just let it be - they have some sort of rule about wrapping foil tightly around the burger and putting it in the bag before serving it.
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Jul 8, 2017 19:01
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That Works posted:I'm just glad that others can recognize Whataburger supremacy. Whataburger is the coward burger chain - no presence in CA recently despite having twice the total amount of stores In-n-Out has, in Texas alone. This is probably because Whataburger tried to have a presence in CA before but shut down their locations down due to having terrible burgers.
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Jul 8, 2017 20:31
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In-n-Out is trash between buns. Whataburger isn't as good as your standard mom-and-pop hole in the wall burg joint, but it's good if you're drunk/pulling an all nighter studying and it's 4AM. Also, anecdote that baffled me that I would like to share since we're discussing it. My friend from my hometown up north visited Texas for the first time. She only went to two places to eat, In-N-Out and Texas Roadhouse.
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Jul 8, 2017 21:09
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Spaced God posted:Also, anecdote that baffled me that I would like to share since we're discussing it. My friend from my hometown up north visited Texas for the first time. She only went to two places to eat, In-N-Out and Texas Roadhouse. People are fuckin strange. I was standing in line at a CVS buying toiletries and two people behind me asked for a food recommendation, and then proceeded to ignore my recommendation to go two streets north into Philly's Chinatown favor of walking twice as far and paying twice as much for a lovely Mexican-for-white-people place nearby. I asked what they were doing in town: they had flown to Philadelphia from Chicago to visit QVC. The shopping channel. They wanted to visit the studio for a channel that sells stupid poo poo and see where the magic was made. Can't make that kind of stuff up.
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