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MoFauxHawk posted:Also, Yale will be almost impossible to get in with your numbers. If you were going to get into Yale with those numbers, it'd be because you accomplished something that already would have made you attractive to the FS. Full ride at T14 will be almost impossible with those numbers too. There is that public service full ride at NYU though; I'm not sure about the exact requirements of that (a goon with a baseball cap--wearing avatar has that), but I'm sure that would be a longshot too. I wish I had a good idea for you. Maybe try to get a full ride with a lower-ranked law school or an unprestigious masters just to meet these minimum requirements you say the FS has. And yeah, there's applying to the Peace Corps or joining the military too. Ultra-late, but the public interest scholarship at NYU is probably not the best bet for him if he wants to work exclusively for the foreign service. (Also because he would be foregoing the possibility of working at a firm unless he wants to pay his tuition back in full) If anyone is interested in hearing more about the scholarship, they can PM me.
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Goddamn it. This was the last thread I thought I'd have to worry about seeing that image. gently caress.
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Seriously, I've managed to not see that poo poo until now and there it is in the goddamn law thread.
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Apr 1, 2013 14:48
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Yeah he got a sweet open compound fracture right there in glorious HD. It was the worst sports injury I've ever seen.
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Is IBR actually a viable thing? After graduating in May, I've been on the standard 10-year repayment plan, but I'm really questioning how long it's sustainable for me. My Payments are $1750/mo. with a little less than $400 of that going to actual principal, and considering what I'm earning, I'm barely breaking even each month. I have a low-level Attorney position practicing in an area of law that I couldn't hate more, but it was literally the only real Attorney position I could find. After 9 months of continuous applications and interviews, I have no reason to believe I'm any closer to getting a position that pays more, or that I hate less. I really like the idea of paying back my loans in ten years, but sooner or later something's gotta give.
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Blakkout posted:My Payments are $1750/mo. with a little less than $400 of that going to actual principal What the gently caress. Is this typical of law grads?
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That's, at a guess, 150k of debt at 6.8%? Sadly that's lower than many people would have if they didn't use IBR for the next 25 years. edit-I got out with debt in the 70k range, didn't find work for a year, and will still have it paid off in about 7-8 total years even if I never break 50k/yr . Live like a miser 
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Blakkout posted:Is IBR actually a viable thing? 10 years is dumb unless your making big law salary. I figure it like this, 30 year repayment when you graduate and increase the payments as your income raises and your career stabilizes. At least that's what I tell myself.
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Hi there law thread. I'm starting law school in the fall. I'm not paying for school and have more than enough GI bill to do one of my schools dual programs. I'm thinking about getting an MS in economics along with my JD. What do you think?
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I've stopped trying to figure out how long it will take to pay my loans back, I just assume I'll have them for life at this point. Every month I basically pay a $600 "don't call me asking where the money is" fee
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Blakkout posted:Is IBR actually a viable thing? If only 23% of your payments are going into the principal, it seems like you should do IBR. Also the discharge is after 25 years rather than 30 now.
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Soothing Vapors posted:I love that #4 is nurse. Eat poo poo with your "do go, lots of jobs, die loved" bullshit, Nursing Megathread This gave me a laugh, I fully expected to see Nurses on that list. We are some unhappy people. The only perk is getting 4 days off a week. On topic, has anyone here worked with nurses on cases? It seems that there is a Legal Nurse Consultant field, and I've been doing a little research into it. As I don't know any nurses who are in the field, I figure this would be my next best place to ask.
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^^ I've filed bankruptcy for a lot of nurses if that counts :P Creditors seem to like garnishing them. Mr. Nice! posted:Hi there law thread. I'm starting law school in the fall. I'm not paying for school and have more than enough GI bill to do one of my schools dual programs. I'm thinking about getting an MS in economics along with my JD. What do you think? Everyone I knew that did dual programs with their JD were all happy at first, then in year 2 were ready to commit suicide. It depends on what you wanna do after you graduate. Will the MS help you? Will the JD help you? For most jobs, one of those degrees will be dead weight. Figure out what job you want, and just get the degree for that.
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MoFauxHawk posted:If only 23% of your payments are going into the principal, it seems like you should do IBR. Also the discharge is after 25 years rather than 30 now. 20 years, if you can qualify for Pay As You Earn. Lower payback rates, too. Not sure whether you'd qualify, or if all of your loans would qualify, but if you graduated just last year with all federal loans, you should look into it.
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Zo posted:What the gently caress. Is this typical of law grads? I doubt it. mastershakeman posted:That's, at a guess, 150k of debt at 6.8%? Sadly that's lower than many people would have if they didn't use IBR for the next 25 years. drat close. About $140K at a combination of 6.8% and 7.8% rates, none of which is from undergrad. Roger_Mudd posted:10 years is dumb unless your making big law salary. I guess that's probably the answer I'm looking for, it's just so demoralizing to give up on paying this off in a reasonable amount of time. My ultimate decision seems to really hinge on whether money saved will accrue value faster than this debt compounds based on the interest rate. I haven't done the math in a few months now, but the difference in 10 years v. 25 years is about double over the life of the loan. MoFauxHawk posted:If only 23% of your payments are going into the principal, it seems like you should do IBR. Also the discharge is after 25 years rather than 30 now. Not that you're wrong, but obviously as more and more interest gets paid down, that percentage will increase. I think in my 6 months or so of repayment, each month has been like an additional $25 toward principal or some poo poo. I'm at the worst of it right now.
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woozle wuzzle posted:^^ I've filed bankruptcy for a lot of nurses if that counts :P Creditors seem to like garnishing them. I've got a few different options available for me when I'm done. I'm on disability amongst other things so money isn't a huge issue to me. I've already got a BS in economics. I figure that I'd have more options opened up with the dual degree but I really don't know.
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Oh sweet jesus. I'm too tired to yell at you properly, dude. But you're loving nuts. JD does not "open doors" or whatever unless you're an actual lawyer. Same with banking & MS in economics. Unless you're gunning for a specific niche position that requires both (which you aren't), then instead you're just a watered down person that's less employable in either field than a person with a single degree. Somebody else yell at him please, I'm going to bed.
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woozle wuzzle posted:Oh sweet jesus. I know I'm being a bit nebulous at this point. Really a big part of it is using up all of my GI benefits that I won't with just a JD or an MS alone. It's not something I'm going to do if I can't find a way to make it really work, though. Hence my asking.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Hi there law thread. I'm starting law school in the fall. I'm not paying for school and have more than enough GI bill to do one of my schools dual programs. I'm thinking about getting an MS in economics along with my JD. What do you think? I have an MA in economics and I'm in my 2nd year of law school. As far as I can tell, the MA in economics is absolutely useless to me career-wise. I mean, I know a bunch of poo poo about statistics now, but so far I haven't seen any practical application for my masters in a) law school, or b) my summer job. I like to think that it helped me get a scholarship and land a continuing summer job (which will hopefully lead to an articling position), but deep down I know that the econ degree is going to be completely useless to basically anything I do as a lawyer. Pick one or the other, and stick with it. Whichever one you think is more likely to get you a job. I don't know how the market is for econ grads in the US, so I can't really talk about it, but you know how the market is for law grads down there. bub spank fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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burf posted:I have an MA in economics and I'm in my 2nd year of law school. Thanks. That's something tangible. I appreciate your input.
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Blakkout posted:My Payments are $1750/mo. with a little less than $400 of that going to actual principal gently caress me. I thought I had it rough on my $850/month with about $600 of that going to principal. Is this kind of repayment plan typical in the US?
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:gently caress me. Yep. My 30 year repayments are around 1500 (IBR would be around 1850 and a 10 year plan around 2500). I have no idea how much goes to principal, because knowing that would be loving depressing.
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Kalman posted:I have no idea how much goes to principal, because knowing that would be loving depressing.
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10-8 posted:My loan balance goes up every month by a small amount, which means my IBR payments aren't even covering the interest that accrues each month. You and I are just sweetening to pot for when our loan forgiveness hits.
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10-8 posted:My loan balance goes up every month by a small amount, which means my IBR payments aren't even covering the interest that accrues each month. And we're just holding our breath waiting for the day when some cunty senator notices all of this and says "something must be wrong with these lazy graduates, let's find a way to gently caress them out of more money" instead of the more logical "something must be wrong with the way we make people pay for school, let's fix that"
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HolySwissCheese posted:You and I are just sweetening to pot for when our loan forgiveness hits. Yup, I pay $0 on whatever the interest is, every month. I'm just waiting on something changing. I especially love that even though 90% of my business is public defender work, I don't qualify for the public service forgiveness.
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I am desperate enough for work that I've submitted an application to be a career services guy at a law school. If I get the job, I think I will decorate my office with whiskey bottles, sleeping pills, pistols, and nooses.
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That'd be sweet. You could setup internships with comapnies like Target and Home Depot. Not in legal. But like cashier and truck unloader jobs. "Come to State Law! We have the nation's highest employment rate* after graduation!" * including retail
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echopapa posted:I am desperate enough for work that I've submitted an application to be a career services guy at a law school. If you get the job, make sure somebody in your office tells the students (particularly rising 2Ls) about the annual Equal Justice Works job fair before or at the start of their ~two week window for applications. We have a person at Northwestern whose sole responsibility is supposed to be public interest career help, and she still didn't tell 2Ls about the EJW conference until there were about three or four days left in that window, no mention of the conference to our class before then at any point. I had to scramble to write a lot of cover letters last fall. That's easily the biggest public interest job-related event of the year for law students and you'd think if there's one single thing her job as public interest career advisor entails, it should be telling student about that conference. She could do nothing else and only that one thing and she'd still be a better public interest advisor than she is now. We'd be much, much better off using her presumably pretty nice salary to fund 15-20 summer public interest fellowships for students.
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Picky question that has generated some dispute--should it be "attorneys' fees" or "attorney's fees" or "attorney fees"?
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Picky question that has generated some dispute--should it be "attorneys' fees" or "attorney's fees" or "attorney fees"? It's "attorneys' fees," since it can apply to multiple lawyers and whatnot. A couple of links: quote:the Civil Rights Attorneys' Fees Awards Act of 1976. quote:Attorneys' fees as costs in damage actions of ten thousand dollars or less — Allowed to prevailing party. ulmont fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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ulmont posted:It's "attorneys' fees," since it can apply to multiple lawyers and whatnot. "Attorney fee" is simply wrong.
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ulmont posted:It's "attorneys' fees," since it can apply to multiple lawyers and whatnot. That was my opinion, but unfortunately it's not shared by everyone, apparently.
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Picky question that has generated some dispute--should it be "attorneys' fees" or "attorney's fees" or "attorney fees"?
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As a non-law anything following this thread I find it hilarious that a question of grammar just got settled by case law.
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awkward_turtle posted:As a non-law anything following this thread I find it hilarious that a question of grammar just got settled by case law. Federal statute actually, even better
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awkward_turtle posted:As a non-law anything following this thread I find it hilarious that a question of grammar just got settled by case law. Please, we can cite to precedent to support that tomatoes are vegetables, this is nothing.
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