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Why is Marvel so obsessed with anime? Are they really popular in Japan?
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Jan 21, 2014 20:21
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ToastyPotato posted:Why is Marvel so obsessed with anime? Are they really popular in Japan? Of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPX-FX0KStE
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Jan 21, 2014 20:35
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It's still worth noting that THIS show is where the 'hero summons giant robot to battle monster-of-the-week' thing comes from. Spider-Man invented the Megazord.
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Jan 21, 2014 21:15
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ToastyPotato posted:Why is Marvel so obsessed with anime? Are they really popular in Japan? I would presume that it's cheaper and more chance of a built in audience.
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Jan 21, 2014 21:21
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Waterhaul posted:I would presume that it's cheaper and more chance of a built in audience. You know, I've always wondered how the japanese see the american superheroes, they like them or think that Super Sentai/Kamen Rider is miles better? I understant than Japan is kind of really close minded to outsider things.
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Jan 21, 2014 21:25
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Pretty sure regular Spider Man is super popular there at least.
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Jan 21, 2014 21:36
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Waterhaul posted:There's a trailer/announcement of Marvel’s Avengers Confidential: Black Widow & Punisher an anime adventure in anime. Wow, I just saw the pre-rendered Iron Man in the preview image and expected it to be garbage, but that actually looks awesome. Pretty out of left field move to make a Black Widow/Punisher film, too. Hope it's good! Marvel could use some more animation hits. Edit:  Jennifer Carpenter as Black Widow. Bet that's going to be something.
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Jan 21, 2014 22:34
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I ended up liking more of the Marvel Anime than I disliked, so I'm pretty positive for this one.
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Jan 21, 2014 23:43
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:You know, I've always wondered how the japanese see the american superheroes, they like them or think that Super Sentai/Kamen Rider is miles better? I understant than Japan is kind of really close minded to outsider things. Of course the Japanese love this poo poo!  CRY FOR THE MOOOOOOOOOON!
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Jan 21, 2014 23:46
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:You know, I've always wondered how the japanese see the american superheroes, they like them or think that Super Sentai/Kamen Rider is miles better? I understant than Japan is kind of really close minded to outsider things. Tiger and Bunny was incredibly popular in Japan, and the show was heavily inspired by Western Superheros.
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Jan 22, 2014 00:11
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Waterhaul posted:There's a trailer/announcement of Marvel’s Avengers Confidential: Black Widow & Punisher an anime adventure in anime. What a strange place for Leviathan to show up again.
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Jan 22, 2014 00:56
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Tiger and Bunny was incredibly popular in Japan, and the show was heavily inspired by Western Superheros. It was also a drat sight better than a lot of Western superhero stuff, as it happened.
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Jan 22, 2014 01:05
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A non-negligible number of mangaka are really into american comics, as well. The Rurouni Kenshin guy straight up lifted a bunch of design elements and power sets from X-men and Spider-man characters, off the top of my head.
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Jan 22, 2014 01:08
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Lurdiak posted:A non-negligible number of mangaka are really into american comics, as well. The Rurouni Kenshin guy straight up lifted a bunch of design elements and power sets from X-men and Spider-man characters, off the top of my head. This sounds interesting. Could you elaborate on this, please? Edit: About Watsuki, I mean.
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Jan 22, 2014 01:35
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Hakkesshu posted:Wow, I just saw the pre-rendered Iron Man in the preview image and expected it to be garbage, but that actually looks awesome. Pretty out of left field move to make a Black Widow/Punisher film, too. Hope it's good! Marvel could use some more animation hits.
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Jan 22, 2014 01:48
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hiddenriverninja posted:This sounds interesting. Could you elaborate on this, please? The Viz release of the manga kept all of the author notes so there was a lot of stuff there about how he created the characters. Off the top of my head, the early villain who had the hypnotic eyes had a costume that was deliberately based on Gambit and near the end of the manga in the Revenge arc one of the guys is straight up just based on Venom.
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Jan 22, 2014 02:04
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Neat, I didn't knew that about Kenshi. So I take than Marvel is what Japan loves and DC isn't relevant?
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Jan 22, 2014 03:35
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Neat, I didn't knew that about Kenshi. So I take than Marvel is what Japan loves and DC isn't relevant? Pretty much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fILWZN1E_sI
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Jan 22, 2014 03:36
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So that JLA Trapped in Time movie that was slipped into Target with absolutely zero marketing and no video footage to be found anywhere? It's probably terrible but I hear Diedrich Bader, Brave and the Bold, is doing Batman's voice, so at least there's that!
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Jan 22, 2014 04:04
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muscles like this? posted:The Viz release of the manga kept all of the author notes so there was a lot of stuff there about how he created the characters. Off the top of my head, the early villain who had the hypnotic eyes had a costume that was deliberately based on Gambit and near the end of the manga in the Revenge arc one of the guys is straight up just based on Venom. He also based the power set and some of the personality traits of one of the ninja characters on Spider-man, and gave a big fat guy an Apocalypse mouth for no reason other than it seemed cool. I think there's more, but it's been a while. The point being that he's a massive fanboy and wears his influences on his sleeve.
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Jan 22, 2014 04:30
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Waterhaul posted:There's a trailer/announcement of Marvel’s Avengers Confidential: Black Widow & Punisher an anime adventure in anime. It's neat that they stuck Danvers in that there Avengers lineup rather than sticking with just the Movie 6. Also is that War Machine or just a mecha'd up Iron Man?
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Jan 22, 2014 07:41
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Iron man is in the same shot right next to him. So I am guessing War Machine.
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Jan 22, 2014 08:08
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:You know, I've always wondered how the japanese see the american superheroes, they like them or think that Super Sentai/Kamen Rider is miles better? I understant than Japan is kind of really close minded to outsider things. As far as American superheroes are concerned, they seem to love them. In 2012, Avengers and The Amazing Spider-Man were #1 at the Japanese box office. And in classic Japanese style, the Japanese are creating an anime where the Avengers have been turned into Pokémon.
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Jan 22, 2014 14:35
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I find it hilarious that Brian Bloom has gone from voicing Captain America to voicing Punisher when he had a Punisher alt in MvC3.Baron Bifford posted:Well, speaking in the broad context of history, Japanese are fascinated by Western things but insist on absorbing those things on their own terms. They will take it, toy with it, praise it, then make their own version of it. It still baffles me every time I see this that they didn't just make the Avengers into teenagers and have them go fight adventures, Pokemon seems a bit too 90s for a current anime.
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Jan 22, 2014 15:45
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I dunno, I'm pretty sure Pokémon is still a thing. At least, it was among the kids at my college last year. Like, they didn't still play Pokémon but they talked about having played it "as kids" (read: a couple of years prior).
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Jan 22, 2014 15:56
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Pokemon is very much still a thing. Maybe not the zeitgeist it was in the 90's, but still a thing.
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Jan 22, 2014 16:27
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Mr. Maltose posted:I ended up liking more of the Marvel Anime than I disliked, so I'm pretty positive for this one. Even though I still say Adrian Pasdar is an inferior Tony Stark to Eric Loomis.
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Jan 22, 2014 16:31
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hiddenriverninja posted:This sounds interesting. Could you elaborate on this, please? Some examples:      Also, he references Marvel in some of his messages to the readers, I think.
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Jan 22, 2014 17:50
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Suleman posted:Some examples: Of course, I keep forgetting that Omega Red is inexplicably Big in Japan. As evidenced by the above "Cry For the Moon" video where he gets more screen time than Magneto.
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Jan 22, 2014 18:18
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The Question IRL posted:Of course, I keep forgetting that Omega Red is inexplicably Big in Japan. As evidenced by the above "Cry For the Moon" video where he gets more screen time than Magneto. Shuma Gorath is also popular for some reason. They actually had to put him back into to Marvel 3 as a DLC character due to popular demand, IIRC. I am actually shocked Omega Red didn't make it in either.
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Jan 22, 2014 18:21
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Tentacles inexplicably popular in Japan. 
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Jan 22, 2014 18:26
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And yet, Doc Ock sits unloved.
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Jan 22, 2014 18:31
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ToastyPotato posted:Shuma Gorath is also popular for some reason. They actually had to put him back into to Marvel 3 as a DLC character due to popular demand, IIRC. I am actually shocked Omega Red didn't make it in either. So omega red and shuma gorath are both popular for some reason and they were both mvc characters? Could those be related.
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Jan 22, 2014 18:33
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Rita Repulsa posted:So omega red and shuma gorath are both popular for some reason and they were both mvc characters? I think the X-Men anime intro featuring Omega predates MVC, BUT it might not predate Children of the Atom, now that I think about it...
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Jan 22, 2014 18:41
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It seems than JL:War is the start of the N52 movieverse going by the post credits scene It shows Ocean Master declaring war to the surface, a 'Throne of Atlantis' movie seems a lock
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Jan 22, 2014 18:58
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Lurdiak posted:He also based the power set and some of the personality traits of one of the ninja characters on Spider-man, and gave a big fat guy an Apocalypse mouth for no reason other than it seemed cool. I think there's more, but it's been a while. The point being that he's a massive fanboy and wears his influences on his sleeve. I remember his notes mentioned that the cape Kenshin's teacher wore was based on Spawn's.
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Jan 22, 2014 19:01
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ToastyPotato posted:I think the X-Men anime intro featuring Omega predates MVC, BUT it might not predate Children of the Atom, now that I think about it... Pretty sure that X-Men opening is based more on the studio having nothing but a chunk of Jim Lee era books for reference than anything.
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Jan 22, 2014 20:31
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I just finished watching Justice League: War. It was okay. A lot of the voice acting, especially Batman and Wonder Woman was pretty bad, although the dialogue may be a partial cause. It didn't read the original story, but I doubt the dialogue was that great and what works on the printed page doesn't always translate to film. The action was pretty intense, and I liked how they quickly introduced all the players and got on with the story. The only thing that really bothered me was Billy Batson being able to say "Shazam" and not turn back. Is this how it is in the comics now? I know they're officially calling him Shazam instead of Captain Marvel, but being able to say the name without changing is really dumb. 2/4 Darkseid Eye Balls.
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Jan 22, 2014 20:58
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404GoonNotFound posted:Even though I still say Adrian Pasdar is an inferior Tony Stark to Eric Loomis. I could not get past the first episode of Avengers Assemble because of this. Unlike the other replacement voice actors I just could not stand Tony's new voice.
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Jan 22, 2014 20:59
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sleepingbuddha posted:The only thing that really bothered me was Billy Batson being able to say "Shazam" and not turn back. Is this how it is in the comics now? I know they're officially calling him Shazam instead of Captain Marvel, but being able to say the name without changing is really dumb. Indeed this bugs me a lot. Apparently the magic lightning only comes down when he says the word and wants it to happen. If they wanted to get rid of the Captain Marvel name they could just call him Captain Thunder or something so they could keep his only weakness.
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Jan 22, 2014 21:02
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