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So is Tron expected to move off VQ before then, or run both? That would force guests to pick which to get at 7am I guess.
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Aphrodite posted:I've only done it once because it's Fallon, but yeah mechanically the ride seems to be very good. Yeah, I'm honestly shocked they haven't at least changed out the "Sara" (no H!) parts. I can't think of anything racist though, in the ride at least. Fallon, as a ride, will probably stick around a while as it can easily be rethemed to something else.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:The ancient videos that tell you WE'RE GRINDING LEAVES DOWN TO USE AS FERTILIZER! Give us new info. And also just let me ride it for like three solid hours and take a good, quiet nap. They actually re-did the video pretty recently. There just isn't a lot of new info, for the pavilion anyway. The techniques they're using are now tried and true and not experimental.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:They actually re-did the video pretty recently. There just isn't a lot of new info, for the pavilion anyway. The techniques they're using are now tried and true and not experimental. well it's a start, at least. I don't want them to change the ending light wall at all. Those billion year old pictures are cherished in my cold, dark heart. Aphrodite posted:So is Tron expected to move off VQ before then, or run both? That would force guests to pick which to get at 7am I guess. I'm not sure I fully get what you're saying: are you thinking Tiana's is going to go VQ? Because I was under the impression it wasn't.
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Hmm. I thought that was confirmed, but it seems it's all still just been speculation.
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I think it would be silly for Tiana's to be VQ, Splash already had an extensive queue that handled itself fine. Yeah, there will be a spike in popularity initially but I assume it will wane off in a few weeks
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Presumably Snow White will move off ILL and they'll put Tiana on, though.
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Anticipate Tiana using Virtual Line. It's not really about queue space, it's that they don't want 3+ hour lines. It does make sense for the first few months of operation. My problem is that they keep it in use way too long. Guardians absolutely does not need it anymore, it's reliable and high capacity and its been two years. But I still can't just stroll in in the evening and get in line for it.
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May 13, 2024 19:38
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When Guardians removes it I will just spend half a day getting back on.
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My strategy for riding all the major draw "new" rides that are not virtual line only is to just get in line right before park close. This has always resulted in a short and manageable wait regardless of what is posted. 7 Dwarfs Mine Train, Flight of Passage, Rise, Frozen, etc. Not being able to do this two years into operation for Guardians is very frustrating.
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Aphrodite posted:When Guardians removes it I will just spend half a day getting back on. Ride until I vomit or I hear the full soundtrack
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:My strategy for riding all the major draw "new" rides that are not virtual line only is to just get in line right before park close. This has always resulted in a short and manageable wait regardless of what is posted. 7 Dwarfs Mine Train, Flight of Passage, Rise, Frozen, etc. Not being able to do this two years into operation for Guardians is very frustrating. since you do this, maybe you can clear this up for me: Park closes at 8 pm. It is 7:45. I go to Flight of Passage. No cast members visible at front of line (or anywhere). No chain up. Go in or go away? Because this is what I keep running into when I try to use this hack.
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Head in. If you're not supposed to be there then you'll find someone to tell you.
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I've never heard of them not having at least one cast member at the entrance, but the standard procedure for Disney and Universal is that unless the ride is down, you can enter the line for any ride up to the minute before the park closes and you will get to ride, unless the ride does go down while you're in line. A good indicator - if the wait time sign lists a wait time, the ride is open. If not, it will be blank or say closed or something. e: also, while some employees may complain about this, never feel bad about getting in line right before close. I promise you it is one of the smartest things you can do as a guest, unless you want to see the closing fireworks show. The cast members are already scheduled to compensate for people queuing up to the last minute. At most, you getting in line last minute adds a few minutes tops to when they can power down the ride and does not delay them from leaving work sooner. SweetMercifulCrap! fucked around with this message at 23:20 on May 13, 2024 |
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https://twitter.com/ghostsofgideons/status/1789417941802352731?s=61&t=p3q_Jh3l7EiiLtw3f9k_8Q Paying the people who work at Gideons 8.95 an hour should be criminal even without all the safety violations and awful vibes, I hope these employees get what they’re asking for
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DC Murderverse posted:Paying the people who work at Gideons 8.95 an hour should be criminal even without all the safety violations
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DC Murderverse posted:https://twitter.com/ghostsofgideons/status/1789417941802352731?s=61&t=p3q_Jh3l7EiiLtw3f9k_8Q this is blowing up, hope they see some real backlash for this bullshit their cookies are $6 btw, so their employees time is worth 1.5 cookies an hour to them.
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There seems to be a wild swing of grievances there which Twitter is having a great time mocking them over, but having worked in lovely places I know that something trivial is often the last straw that makes you take action. It's also pretty funny to see Twitter not getting which demands are put in there to be walked back from just so management can convince themselves that they won.
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definitely hate it when one's employer is out there building a toxic empire of lies
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Yeah a lot of people were making fun of the iced coffee thing because it seems relatively minor but it’s a great example of their larger point which is that management does poo poo that they think seems “cool” or “flashy” without an understanding of how it’s actually gonna work because they have no concept of what their employees do on a granular level (because they are bad managers) I hate to be that guy but I never thought it was worth the wait in line so I’ve never actually had them, especially when Amorette’s is also in the Springs and has bougie pastries for pretentious hipsters like myself and is built not on a toxic web of lies, but a strong cake base covered in fondant
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I intended to at least look in the door when I was there last, but just sort of completely forgot to. The decor seems like it's very me, but I also don't care about cookies all that much 
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I thought Gideons was one of the most overrated things I've ever had
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The secret at Disney is to make your terrible snacks shaped like Mickey.
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The peanut butter cold brew is great. The cookies are meh.
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Braksgirl posted:The peanut butter cold brew is great. The cookies are meh. But is the cold brew better when it’s shaken like a bartender exactly 10 times
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That iced coffee was life changing for me but I haven’t been there in ages since DS is the last place on my mind when I’m down there. Hate that they are paid so low for busting their butts and I hope things straighten out for them.
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CapnAndy posted:Presumably Snow White will move off ILL and they'll put Tiana on, though. Absolutely not. They'll just add a third ILL (including Tron). It's time to take Tron off VQ. The 1pm was open pretty much endlessly when I was on property (even on Saturday). The ILL's aren't selling out either. Meanwhile, Cosmic Rewind still fills instantly and sells out its ILL allocation by like, 10am. I think they should take CW off virtual queue, but I think they're terrified of that standby line going all the way outside and into the pavilion. The queue really feels like it was designed to be on VQ forever.
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https://twitter.com/AshleyLCarter1/status/1790355987485909364 VQ and Regular G+ Im shocked they aren't doing ILL
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Akileese posted:Absolutely not. They'll just add a third ILL (including Tron). It's time to take Tron off VQ. The 1pm was open pretty much endlessly when I was on property (even on Saturday). The ILL's aren't selling out either. Meanwhile, Cosmic Rewind still fills instantly and sells out its ILL allocation by like, 10am. I think they should take CW off virtual queue, but I think they're terrified of that standby line going all the way outside and into the pavilion. The queue really feels like it was designed to be on VQ forever. Is that since reservations went away for Guardians? It used to never fill up last year.
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BlueBayou posted:https://twitter.com/AshleyLCarter1/status/1790355987485909364 ah that sounds like they just don't wanna have to deal with the first couple of weeks of surge getting tangled in btmrr's line. that's smart
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Aphrodite posted:Is that since reservations went away for Guardians? It used to never fill up last year. Guardians is still VQ and ILL. I don't know what has happened there, but the ILLs and VQ started going significantly quicker sometime late last year. I noticed it when I took my wife down for Hanson at Epcot. It became much harder to get an early boarding group for Guardians and the upshot of that is the ILLs started getting snapped up earlier. I can discount a lot about what I saw Saturday because it was Saturday, and also Simple Plan was playing Epcot and that brought in a lot of people, but it was like that in February too. I'll be honest, I think this is less a "Guardians is popular thing" and more of a "more and more people are growing up loving the poo poo out of roller coasters" thing. Velocicoaster times have gone up significantly (even after express was added). Less people seem scared to get on them, which honestly, I'm all for. Akileese fucked around with this message at 17:31 on May 14, 2024 |
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Akileese posted:Absolutely not. They'll just add a third ILL (including Tron). It's time to take Tron off VQ. The 1pm was open pretty much endlessly when I was on property (even on Saturday). The ILL's aren't selling out either. Meanwhile, Cosmic Rewind still fills instantly and sells out its ILL allocation by like, 10am. I think they should take CW off virtual queue, but I think they're terrified of that standby line going all the way outside and into the pavilion. The queue really feels like it was designed to be on VQ forever. Tron’s queue seems like it was badly planned and a complete miss by the imagineers. You have the outside portion with sweltering heat and nothing to look at, then a “pre-show” where you’re digitized that lasts maybe all of thirty seconds, then the worst portion of all: the switchback room with the creepy blue-eyed computer lady giving the ride instructions. And you’re stuck in that room for so long you hear the complete speech at least five or six times. I’ve done Tron three times now and I can probably recite the entire thing. The last room after the lockers is probably the most interesting, with the Jumbotron showing the stats of opponent players, but it moves pretty quickly. It’s just such a bizarrely paced line, especially since the ride itself is so short. At least other new big budget rides like Rise and Guardians and Flight of Passage, and even some older ones like Soarin and Big Thunder, have lots of stuff to look at in line and the pre-show instruction spiel is fairly brief and leads straight into the ride so you don’t feel like you’ve wasted your time.
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I'd be honestly okay with it if they VQ'd every single ride in every park. Time spent on lines is wasted time for both the guests and the company.
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CapnAndy posted:I'd be honestly okay with it if they VQ'd every single ride in every park. Time spent on lines is wasted time for both the guests and the company. Do you like crowds, because that's how you get crowds.
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Except if nobody is waiting in a line, then the shops/walkways/restaurants would be so overcrowded it would be a mess. ETA: what he said
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The parks are designed to have a certain number of people in line. Having no lines would violate fire codes etc. I was at DCA once when there was an earth quake and they had to dump every single ride and line in order to do safety checks. Nobody in line meant everybody was in the walkways etc. It was absolute bedlam. I suppose they could do it if they significantly reduced park capacity. But they'd never do that
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Yeah that. It also means you'll wait longer for everything because it's a lot easier to just tap a button and virtually wait in a long line, whereas standing in, say, a 75 minute line requires some dedication. So every major draw attraction would have a longer virtual queue than the actual queues already are. When they removed VQ from Rise, the wait time went from having to wait multiple hours for your virtual queue time (unless you were one of the first) to averaging around a little over an hour. And then what happens when every major ride's virtual queues are all distributed? Now you have to shell out money to ride every major ride. This is probably the sole reason they don't want to get rid of Virtual Queue for Guardians - they want that ILL money since your only options are to luck out with a VQ or pay up. It also removes all spontaneity which is bad when there's already so little left in a WDW vacation.
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BlueBayou posted:The parks are designed to have a certain number of people in line. Having no lines would violate fire codes etc. I dont think that's the case. The outside areas can hold well over the set park capacity even in MK. It would not be pleasant but I don't think it would be in violation of anything. I can see it being a lot tighter in California though (and they probably have stricter regulations to boot). couldcareless posted:Do you like crowds, because that's how you get crowds. as opposed to what we have now? An all VQ system for rides could and would be great, but it would require some major redesign of park systems and likely a lowered capacity at most parks. They would have to do a lot more in park entertainment and shows too. It would probably require people being ok with being given strict all day itineraries which wouldn't fly for most though, even if it meant more people would get to do more stuff. Also, the point of Lightning/G+ is not the availability of virtual queues, it's a monetized fast pass and nothing more. Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 19:34 on May 14, 2024 |
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