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MyNameIsJeff
Dec 5, 2003

P-P-P-Powerbook.com!

EDIT If you don't want to read 2000 posts, go to http://www.p-p-p-powerbook.com or http://www.bootsix.net
Well, the bandwidth for www.p-p-p-powerbook.com and www.bootsix.net is up.

Mirrors availible:
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http://www.bootsix.net
http://personal.stevens.edu/~achadzyn/powerbook
http://easynetworknyc.com/powerbook/
http://www.hot.ee/ppppowerbook/
www.elitegaming.net/powerbook


PDF ONLY
http://www.gdwebmedia.com/powerbook.pdf
http://chat.carleton.ca/~kfennell/thepowerbook.pdf
http://www.vegaji.com/documents/thepowerbook.pdf

Please help spread the word


I'm selling a Apple G4 PowerBook for my friend on ebay. Here's the main part of the discription:

You are bidding on my 19 day old G4 Powerbook. This was purchased for a project that fell through. When I tried to return it, I was informed of a 10 day limit for returns!

Your new laptop comes with its original box, all of its documentation, all of its original accessories, and the blue tooth mouse.

Laptop Details: (blah blah blah) Free Shipping yadda yadda yadda


The next day I get this:

Hello I am very interested in your unit. I would like to know your best price to buy it now and if you ship international. I am in London UK right now. I would also want to know the condition of the unit. Please let me know I am very interested. Thank you in advance

To view the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayISAPI.dl...item=4125873654



Thank you,
msalamon


Ok. All this poo poo is in the auctions discription. I respond anyways. Basically tell him yes I will ship to London, but he has to pay for it. Paste the auction info again. Buy it now is $2100

The next day, I get this little jewel of an email:

Hello,
I'm very very interested for this item and I'm ready to pay you the best price $2100+ overnight or 2 days shipping charges (UPS DHL FEDEX OR FEDEX OR PARCEL FORCE) if we will use an escrow service to handle this transaction.As for the escrow service , I am already registered with http://www.set-ltd.net and my uzername is the same with my email address.I will pay the express shipping and also , the escrow fee . The escrow service will release you the money as soon as I will let them know that the item passed the inspection and is 100% ok.
The escrow fee is on my charge , don't worry .Please let me know if my offer is good enough for you . If it does , I will initiate the transaction with the escrow service as soon as I will have your confirmation.If is ok please register in order to make the deal and start the payment procedures.Hope that everything will be ok and close the deal in the best conditions.
Kind regards !


I don't even know how to reply! I was thinking of replying with one of the pains or something. Or maybe just gently caress OFF in 72 pt. font.

-I use 40 posts per page-
UPDATE: Ok, I've decided to play along as the helpless new ebayer who is very eager to sell him the laptop.
UPDATE: Response sent. Page 3 (Yes I'm making you read awww)
Update: Response received Not what I was expecting - reply sent- Page 4
Update: He's replied! I am to send laptop to him, and his money willgo to escrow. Page 4
Update: Another email sent including A++++ ebay lingo, strong digital defense, and, Hey! It looks lke I'm selling an Amanda Real Doll on that escrow site! Added- My response from Ebay after I reported him and his fake escrow site.
Added-My reply to ebay
Update: Email saying he sent it express to escrow - few hours later - ESCROW RECEIVED! WELL poo poo! BETTER SEND THAT 'OL LAPTOP ON OVER! (Page 6)
Update: The plan has been set. See page 8 for details.
Update: Pics of his new laptop on page 9
Update: Thanks to all the goons who helped raise the money to send our scammer his new laptop! Tracking Number coming within a few hours.
Update: Ringer has been sent. Tracking - http://www.fedex.com/cgi-bin/tracki...rs=846563452310

You had better start reading from page 1. I personally guarantee you will not be dissapointed. Just check the last few posts of people who spent 2 hours only to be as hooked as we all are.

Update:
Apr 30, 2004 3:19 am
Package status
STANSTED GB
Regulatory Agency Clearance Delay

This could last a few hours, may a few days. We wil await in suspense until then.

:siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren:

I HAVE BAD NEWS.

The ringer was not delivered. I just called FedEx. It was never paid for. Probably because the jack rear end gave me a bunk phone number.

I got transferred to the International Rep but hung up before I got to them. :(


CURRENT STATUS
Waiting for FedEx to SHIP THE GOD drat PACKAGE.

:siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren:

WE HAVE EMAIL RESPONSE!!!!!RFGALEIR%LKTgoieahy53

Update:
He sent me an email saying that he called FedEx and has paid the taxes on his new p-p-p-powerbook. FedEx was told not to allow pick up (By US), so it will be delivered Monday. (So our mark says)

Skip Page 63 - The flames might burn you a little.

:siren::siren::siren:
May 10, 2004
6:10 pm
Package status
STANSTED GB
Released for Delivery


6:10 pm
Package status
STANSTED GB
Package available for clearance

(Commence Happy Dance)

:siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren:

May 11, 2004 6:51 am
Arrived at FedEx Destination Location
ENFIELD GB


DELIVERED
I've sent him another email page 74

Now . . . we wait.

Seriously.

MyNameIsJeff fucked around with this message at May 20, 2004 around 16:06

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pipebomb
May 12, 2001

Dear God, what is it like in your funny little brains?
It must be so boring.


Escrow is very common for expensive items.
Suggest using the eBay sanctioned escrow instead.

Morbid Florist
Oct 21, 2002

and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

I remember reading about people scamming on computer auctions by way of escrow or other middlemen, from other countries. Could I tell you any more details? No, but I DO remember reading about poo poo like this not too long ago.

OhPlz
Jul 25, 2001

It's great that we have a minority as President, it's just a shame that he's a communist.


I think I missed the ripping off part..?

Jacob
Jul 14, 2002


I don't think he's trying to rip you off at all. The escrow service holds his money until he recieves your product, then they release the money to you. It brings a third party into it to make sure there isn't payment without shipment or vice versa.

EDIT: Just be sure you research the escrow service if it isn't the eBay one to make sure its legitimate.

EDIT 2: After browsing the site a bit, I'm suspicious. I'd suggest a different escrow service.

Jacob fucked around with this message at Apr 23, 2004 around 15:48

MyNameIsJeff
Dec 5, 2003

P-P-P-Powerbook.com!

quote:

OhPlz came out of the closet to say:
I think I missed the ripping off part..?

He wants to buy it outside of ebay, with some hokey escro company.

Seriously.

Joe
Dec 2, 2002

Sit perfectly still. Only I may dance.

quote:

Morbid Florist came out of the closet to say:
I remember reading about people scamming on computer auctions by way of escrow or other middlemen, from other countries. Could I tell you any more details? No, but I DO remember reading about poo poo like this not too long ago.
Me too, I remember a lot fo hoo-hah about eastern people buying computer goods on ebay and not paying for it.

Personally I would not sell to anyone who sends an e-mail like that.

EDIT: Posted in first page of legendary thread! If youa re reading this post you MUST read the rest of the thread, it's like a good novel unravelling.

Joe fucked around with this message at Apr 30, 2004 around 15:35

fursmbrero
Dec 27, 2002



Just wait for it to go through eBay. If it's important enough for him to buy, he can bid like everybody else.


EDIT1: or not. Holy poo poo $pagecount.
EDIT2: BWAHAHHAHA "IS IT BROKEN?"

fursmbrero fucked around with this message at May 11, 2004 around 15:19

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002


Every soup ladled to the hungry, every blanket draped over the cold signifies, in the final sense, a theft from my gigantic paycheck.

Anyone suggesting their own, non-standard escrow service is probably riping you off.

EDIT: Definitly a fake, look at the address for the 'verisign' link.

Grom
Apr 26, 2002


Hmmm that escrow service doesn't look very legit - check the verisign secureid link, it's just a javascript pop-up which pretends to be going to verisign's site. The actual page it displays is just http://www.set-ltd.net/VeriSign.php - or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

It looks hopelessly unprofessional and doesn't seem right anyway - ask him if he will use a different escrow service. That one is either fraudulent or just plain poo poo.

logical fallacy
Mar 16, 2001

Dynamic Symmetry

Based on this man's English, I find it hard to believe he's from the UK. At the very least, English is not his first language.

I'd tell him to use the ebay sanctioned escrow or paypal, and nothing else. Or tell him any other method he wants to use has to result with cash in your hand before you ship the laptop.

fuzzi
Oct 14, 2002


when you click to verify the site is verisigned... it leads you to a page that is hosted on their site

quote:

To ensure that this is a legitimate VeriSign Secure Site, make sure that:

The original URL of the site you are visiting comes from http://www.set-ltd.net.
The URL of this page is https://digitalid.verisign.com.
The status of the Server ID is Valid.

obviously this is a bunk site and you definately shouldn't do any business through it.

edit: drat beaten.

MyNameIsJeff
Dec 5, 2003

P-P-P-Powerbook.com!

quote:

evilweasel came out of the closet to say:
Anyone suggesting their own, non-standard escrow service is probably riping you off.

That's what I'm thinking.

Should I just be civil, and say no way, or be a jerk and send him something funny?

Seriously.

Kaiju
Mar 19, 2003

HEINEKEN!?! FUCK THAT SHIT! PABST BLUE RIBBON!!

Heh... he's interested in your "unit".

FunkyBunny
Apr 8, 2003
If I don't stop the whole jerk act, I will be banned. Please report me for being a jerk if I am acting like one.

Just sell it on ebay, I'm sure you'll find a buyer.

A Rabid Llama
Aug 19, 2003

Donkey PUNCH

Yep, back when I was trying to buy my iBook, I got an amazing offer for a powerbook. I was skeptical, but traded emails up to the point where the guy asked to use an escrow service. I said that it was an AWESOME idea, but how about we use the sanctioned ebay one. I even offered to pay the price difference between the eBay one and the one he'd suggested.
I never got another email from the guy.

Moral of the story: gently caress the fucker, he's trying to steal your money.

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

I think the most important thing is a head, not only for a footballer but for any person.


quote:

evilweasel came out of the closet to say:
Anyone suggesting their own, non-standard escrow service is probably riping you off.

EDIT: Definitly a fake, look at the address for the 'verisign' link.
Correct, and beaten me with the verisign link

EDIT: The company is not registered with companies house and is therefore not a private limited company

Starbucks fucked around with this message at Apr 23, 2004 around 15:53

OhPlz
Jul 25, 2001

It's great that we have a minority as President, it's just a shame that he's a communist.


Ahh, clever Verisign fake out.. I didn't even catch it.

I think I'll report them now.

fondue
Jul 14, 2002

Oh well, what the hey? Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


quote:

logical fallacy came out of the closet to say:
I'd tell him to use the ebay sanctioned escrow or paypal, and nothing else. Or tell him any other method he wants to use has to result with cash in your hand before you ship the laptop.

quote:

To ensure that this is a legitimate VeriSign Secure Site, make sure that:

  • The original URL of the site you are visiting comes from www.set-ltd.net.
  • The URL of this page is https://digitalid.verisign.com. :lol:
  • The status of the Server ID is Valid.

Guild Wars 2 rocks!

fondue fucked around with this message at Apr 23, 2004 around 15:52

Vorpal Bunny X
Nov 11, 2003


quote:

FunkyBunny came out of the closet to say:
Just sell it on ebay, I'm sure you'll find a buyer.
Uhhhhhhhhh

Jacob
Jul 14, 2002


A Google search for '"set-ltd" escrow' turns up only one hit, which is not relevant. I think that's pretty odd if they're a legitimate business.

MyNameIsJeff
Dec 5, 2003

P-P-P-Powerbook.com!

I've reported him to ebay already. I looks like his ebay name is ****

Seriously.

MyNameIsJeff
Dec 5, 2003

P-P-P-Powerbook.com!

quote:

FunkyBunny came out of the closet to say:
Just sell it on ebay, I'm sure you'll find a buyer.

Fantastic Idea! I think I'll go list it now! Oh wai

Seriously.

Nimrod "Felcher" Soames
Jul 7, 2002


quote:

Kaiju came out of the closet to say:
Heh... he's interested in your "unit".

Uhuhuhuuhuhuhuuhh....Huhuhuhuhuh.

Anyway, why not smoke him out - try getting him to do it with the proper eBay Escrow, and see if he accepts. If he does, you've just made a not inconsiderable amount of money, and must live with the fact that you slightly doubted this noble fellow, and if not, then you've just avoided a potential scammer and that's when you break out the pain/wtftit/tubgirl/trite cliche images and report him to the INTERWEB POLICE!!!

But I vote "Scammer"

I refuse to support the barbaric act of adding lines to signatures. If you agree, add these lines to oh shi

Atmus
Mar 8, 2002


well if he is trying to rip you off, why not rip him off back? take pictures of the power book, and form them into a carboard prop of one you see in furniture stores.

i guess that doesnt really rip him off at all though :(

Kiel
May 26, 2003



The source of the VeriSign popup:
code:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<!-- saved from url=(0159)[url]https://digitalid.verisign.com/cgi-bin/Xquery.exe?Template=authCertByIssuer&form_file=../fdf/authCertByIssuer.fdf&issuerSerial=540c10f42acd819325e81f840e06f164[/url] -->
If you follow the link there, you get:

quote:

WWW.JWCINC.NET is a
VeriSign Secure Site


Security remains the primary concern of on-line consumers. The VeriSign Secure Site Program allows you to learn more about web sites you visit before you submit any confidential information. Please verify that the information below is consistent with the site you are visiting.


Name http://www.jwcinc.net
Status Expired
Validity Period 02-JUL-02 - 02-JUL-03
Server ID
Information Country = US
State = Ohio
Locality = Uniontown
Organization = J White Computers Inc
Organizational Unit = Web Services
Organizational Unit = Terms of use at http://www.verisign.com/rpa (c)00
Common Name = http://www.jwcinc.net

Ohio, UK...same thing, right?

Right?

Avoid this guy, obviously.

jon3k
Feb 16, 2004

by Lowtax


Broken english from his messages matches the broken english from this escrow service he wants to use. Neither of which are (uk) english.

Its a scam, I'm 99% sure of it.

Tell him you don't use escrow, and you expect full payment before you'll ship anything.

----------------
This thread brought to you by a tremendous dickhead!

filo
Jan 27, 2004

run run run run run

Common Scam These Days

I suggest you play his game and then in the end say something like "We have contacted the apropriate authorties and have alerted them to your activities. Have a good day."

I suck at writing, but something along those lines to gently caress with them.

MyNameIsJeff
Dec 5, 2003

P-P-P-Powerbook.com!

Maybe I can just paste 1000 "yams" for a reply.

Seriously.

P-niiice
May 20, 2001

I have you now.


quote:

How it works
After ysour auction or other form of transaction has reached the paying stage (for example, the auction has completed or you have answered an ad in the classifieds), both the buyer and seller need to agree that they will use Set-LTD.net service. The buyer sends the money for purchasing the item to Set-LTD.net (see availiable options here). Upon receipt of the money, Set-LTD.net contacts and notifies the seller to send the product to us. Once we receive the merchandise, Set-LTD.net will forward the item to the buyer. Then wait for the Buyer to receive and inspect the item. We send the payment on to the seller.

Poor and/or "unprofessional" grammar. A litte more evidence why you shouldn't bother with this site. It sounds like it was written by a 15-year old.

i do this out of total for you lololl

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

I think the most important thing is a head, not only for a footballer but for any person.


Domain Name.......... set-ltd.net
Creation Date........ 2004-04-16
Registration Date.... 2004-04-16
Expiry Date.......... 2005-04-16
Organisation Name.... Saral Surakul
Organisation Address. 851 Foxcrest Court # A
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Terre Haute
Organisation Address. 47803
Organisation Address. IN
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

"Set-LTD.net is an independent escrow company based in London, UK."

O rly?

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

I think the most important thing is a head, not only for a footballer but for any person.


http://www.set-ltd.net/register.php

If it is a UK Company why has the register.php got US States on it, shouldn't it have UK Counties??

Sputnik
Jul 21, 2003

I felt like a ninja, and my kung-fu was strong.


Though it's been shown a few times above, I just checked the VeriSign directory and that site's not signed up (obviously). Who would you report that to? VeriSign directly? Or could they not do anything?

P-niiice
May 20, 2001

I have you now.


Could it be this Saral Surakul?


http://www.indstate.edu/fcs/facprof_surakul.html

Indiana State university is in Terra Haute.

i do this out of total for you lololl

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

This is how Davos feels.
This is how Davos feels all the time.



quote:

Sputnik came out of the closet to say:
Though it's been shown a few times above, I just checked the VeriSign directory and that site's not signed up (obviously). Who would you report that to? VeriSign directly? Or could they not do anything?
They don't want scammers sullying their good name. The entire VeriSign business is based on the simple assertion that "if the page has our logo on it, you can trust it". Report the site to VeriSign, and the seller to eBay.

As for what you should reply to him... if you can spoof emails, send him a nasty warning letter from cybercrime@fbi.gov or something

Kwyjibo
Apr 1, 2003


Another common feature of fake escrow is that they copy all their material from escrow.com

Example:

http://www.set-ltd.net/solutions.php
https://www.escrow.com/solutions/escrow/index.asp

Text is identical. Also, the fact that nothing I'm looking at is secure on set-ltd is funny.

acslater
Feb 8, 2003

acid is groovy, kill the pigs

If anyone wants to poke around I registered a fake user account:
code:
user: kilroy
password: kilroy
edit: Is anyone buying my Internet?

http://www.set-ltd.net/trans.php?user=kilroy&sign=3687904042&tid=7517547441

acslater fucked around with this message at Apr 23, 2004 around 16:11

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!



quote:

Sputnik came out of the closet to say:
Though it's been shown a few times above, I just checked the VeriSign directory and that site's not signed up (obviously). Who would you report that to? VeriSign directly? Or could they not do anything?
I reported it to Verisign through their handy form.

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CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

This is how Davos feels.
This is how Davos feels all the time.



quote:

P-niiice came out of the closet to say:
Could it be this Saral Surakul?


http://www.indstate.edu/fcs/facprof_surakul.html

Indiana State university is in Terra Haute.
It's him. After checking mapquest and the ISU webpage, I found out that the given address for the web page (851 Foxcrest Court # A) is about 4 1/2 miles away from Indiana University (probably less, I was measuring to the visitor's parking lot). Maybe somebody should let ISU know what one of their professors is doing?

Oh, and is anyone else having lsass flashbacks? 3/17 NEVAR FORGET!!!

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Oy Gevalt!
Apr 15, 2003

Find one in every car.

It looks like he's using Yahoo for his webhost. Might want to let them know too.

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