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Anubis
Oct 9, 2003

It's hard to keep sand out of ears this big.
Fun Shoe
Directed by: Stanley Kubrick
Starring: Malcolm McDowell, Patrick Magee

IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/
Based on a novel by Anthony Burgess, director Stanley Kubrick takes us to a world filled with drug laced milk, sex, and more then enough of that old ultra-violence. Its been a number of years since I have last seen this movie but certain parts are, I fear, forever with me. The sordid tale of crime and punishment in a world where prison crowding is forcing England into alternative methods for dealing with violent criminals, is disturbing to say the least. If you can stomach the violence, the movie does offer a great musical score and excellent acting by all. I am giving this a 3/5 mainly because I can not stomach such things.

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Squall91
Nov 19, 2002

DONG LARGO DEL BURRO DEL DONG
My favorite movie ever.

5/5

BubmanSucks
Jan 14, 2004
oh yes
Great film.

5/5

lenin
Sep 11, 2001

dear leader
It would have been nicer if there was some subtlety added to the film's message- at times, it felt like the film was just turning to the audience to say, "Oh, look, he was dehumanized!"

Still, nicely shot, original, acted, etc.

entity119
May 13, 2003
Memory can change the shape of a room; it can change the color of a car. And memories can be distorted. They're just an interpretation, they're not a record, and they're irrelevant if you have the facts.

quote:

lenin came out of the closet to say:
It would have been nicer if there was some subtlety added to the film's message- at times, it felt like the film was just turning to the audience to say, "Oh, look, he was dehumanized!"

Still, nicely shot, original, acted, etc.

I agree, it was rather heavy handed at times, but I guess it worked in portraying it's message :)

Walter Carlos' score is excellent, and the scene with "Singing' in the rain" is chilling.

Manic Shampoo
Feb 9, 2004

Arriba! Arriba! Andale! Andale!
I am the only person in the world that hates this movie.

vivisectvnv
Aug 5, 2003

quote:

Manic Shampoo came out of the closet to say:
I am the only person in the world that hates this movie.

No you're not...don't feel so god drat special about it.

edit:I love the movie.

The Dog-Broccoli Gambit
Jan 19, 2004

4/5 for me, wasn't the best IMO, but very well done.

albear
Jun 7, 2001

the doctor will see you now..
I've been meaning to see this movie for awhile, after quite the amount of recommendations from friends and the "OMG YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT?!>?!?!" ordeal. So I watched it with my friends and man, was this a great movie. I really loved it, enough that it has become one of my favorites. I'd highly recommend this film to anyone who hasn't seen it.

celestial teapot
Sep 9, 2003

He asked my religion and I replied "agnostic." He asked how to spell it, and remarked with a sigh: "Well, there are many religions, but I suppose they all worship the same God."
5/5 because 6/5 isn't possible.

etatoby
Feb 12, 2003

China makes me cry

quote:

Manic Shampoo came out of the closet to say:
I am the only person in the world that hates this movie.
No you're not.

This movie is unfunny, very uneasy to watch, has no educational value at all and has nothing to it beside silly gratuitous violence and lame-rear end social/psychological experiments. There's also no hidden meanings (that I could find.) Albeit a few important philosophical issues are touched throughout the movie, any high-school Philosophy textbook lays them down way better.

The acting might be great, as you say (I don't know) but the movie itself is crap.

Musical score? Yeah, Beethoven was a genius, we all know.

Voted 1, will not watch again.

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre
I think it was good for it's time. The fact that this movie became almost a cliche in modern film making does it credit.

Ebjan
Feb 20, 2004

This films shows Stanley Kubrick in his ok mode.

2/5

Baron von Fat
May 6, 2003

Time gentlemen, please.

quote:

TobiX came out of the closet to say:
no educational value

I never though about judging movies by educational value. Did you fail the post-film pop quiz or something?

This is film is in my top 5 favorites. 5/5

Kynetx
Jan 8, 2003


Full of ignorant tribalism. Kinda sad.
Snore. I forced myself to watch this so I could get the pop-culture references it spawned, but it was a snooze-fest. A lot of over-indulgent camera shots and scenes a la 2001 or Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

insideoutsider
Aug 31, 2003

You want a van? I get you a van.
I myself didn't enjoy the movie at all my first time watching it, however after multiple (forced) viewings, I found a new appreciation for the film. I think it was because the first time I saw it I was a sophomore in high school and wasn't ready to get into a film as intense as this one. I feel that this is a film that requires a lot of discussion, if not just to get some of the plot elements out of the way

insideoutsider fucked around with this message at 06:00 on May 4, 2004

de_sadesky
Mar 17, 2002
See, the real joy about A Clockwork Orange for me is how Kubrick and McDowell manage to make this contemptable little bastard so completely likeable. Sure, the dehumanization 'message' is somewhat obvious (though I feel it sits perfectly with the tone of the picture), but I don't think that's all Kubrick was trying to present. The film is not a simple morality tale, I guess what it aims to provoke is debate around the fact that though we'd love to utterly indulge our every whim, but this will never be acceptable within a society. Everyone has there own point where they draw the line beyond which they feel their actions are 'immoral'. To some the actions of the Minister and his cronies are more immoral that that of Alex and the Droogs. It's also perhaps interesting to consider that as a hooligan, Alex is as much a result of conditioning as he is post-Ludovico technique. It's seldom clear just who the director is mocking in this film (unsurprising, given his famed disillusionment with the human race at large).

Visually the film is extraordinary; there are few people who capture more iconic images than Kubrick. You can pause almost any of his films at any point, and the result will be a stunningly composed photograph. Malcolm McDowell plays the role of his life: when thinking of of characters who no other actor could have bettered, you would be hard put to find a better example; somewhat ironic considering the actor has never come near this level of craftmanship since.

I first saw this film about 14 years ago, and I still find new things to like about it on each viewing. Unsurprisingly, a 5 from me :)

Frank Zappa
Feb 6, 2004

Electric Aunt Jemima - Goddess of Love

quote:

TobiX came out of the closet to say:
No you're not.

This movie is unfunny, very uneasy to watch, has no educational value at all and has nothing to it beside silly gratuitous violence and lame-rear end social/psychological experiments. There's also no hidden meanings (that I could find.) Albeit a few important philosophical issues are touched throughout the movie, any high-school Philosophy textbook lays them down way better.

The acting might be great, as you say (I don't know) but the movie itself is crap.

Musical score? Yeah, Beethoven was a genius, we all know.

Voted 1, will not watch again.

Well put. I don't usually like Kubric's stuff a whole lot. I did enjoy Full Metal Jacket, Dr. Strangelove or How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb, and The Shining.

This one really blew donkey balls.

.5/5, becuse it's the closest I can get to a zero.

blatch
Feb 17, 2003

by Ozma
He is god. I loved every moment.

MysteryMeat
May 1, 2003

Say hello to my leetul friend!
A lot of people fail to notice Kubrik's usage of color in this film. Next time you watch it, don't get caught up so much in the ultra-violence, look for the colors Kubrick uses and what he's trying to represent.

EPS
Mar 19, 2003

READY... FIGHT!
One of the few "arty" movies that I find actually makes a worthwhile statement about human life. One of the most memorable films I've seen, brilliantly acted, directed and written.

MillDaKill
Aug 19, 2003

How could you Carl?
I really enjoyed this movie but had a questions when I was done. Is the movie making a message or is it giving us something to think about that really doesnt have an answer?
it seeme like the movie is an examination of a terriable social situation where Alex (the main character) is beyond conventional rehabilitation and really must go through some other type. I feel it is sad that he lost what little humanity he had but did society ever have a choise to do anything else? in the end he is turned back in to what he started as and is sent free and it is portrayed as a less than perfect resolution but does the movie make a statement of wether what happened to him was good or bad, wrong or right?


5/5

ubiquitous rex
Oct 28, 2003

Mullet power!
I find it interesting that Kubrick hated this movie enough to try to get it banned in the U.K. This is by far one of the most disturbing, bleak, violent, misogynistic and misanthropic films I have ever seen, and you can easily see how Kubrick must have watched this as a whole for the first time and felt like a now-remorseful mad scientist staring at a mushroom cloud. Imagine knowing that you'd created this gleefully hate-filled monster of a movie!

That being said, it's one of my favourites. If you've read the novel you can fill in 'the message' during the parts where Kubrick's stunning visuals and fetishism gloss over the satirical nature of the story, which I think improves your viewing immensely. The sugar-disco cum Beethoven score is on my list of Top 5 OST's of all time and the acting is really superb. I guess you could say that Clockwork is the blackest comedy ever made, as it is downright hilarious at certain parts...but for all the wrong reasons, which I suppose is the entire point of the film.

As a man who can almost never justify buying DVD's, I direly wish I owned this one. 4.5 out of 5.

Azzy
May 10, 2003

Innit.
poo poo post

Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Jun 6, 2004

Kath
May 16, 2004

In his house at Rlyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreami- oh wait, he is up.
As much as I loved this movie (and I do, very, very much), it's hard to compare to the book. The feel of each is pretty different. Both are sinister while remaining playful, but the movie is like a circus compared to the book. I wish they had left in some of the more disturbing parts of the prison period in the movie, but all in all I say they are both amazing, despite being rather different.
4.5/5

Edit: The singing in the rain scene is amazing.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe

quote:

insideoutsider came out of the closet to say:
I feel that this is a film that requires a lot of discussion, if not just to get some of the plot elements out of the way
It's kind of like Fight Club in that violence is used as a metaph...
oops.

5/5

spamhead80
Apr 15, 2003

It's a Zen thing, like how many babies fit in a tire.

quote:

Manic Shampoo came out of the closet to say:
I am the only person in the world that hates this movie.

Not by a longshot. I generally don't like Kubrick, but I really hated this particular movie. The direction is overly stylized and just generally annoying, particularly after reading the book. Malcolm McDowell is the only saving grace in this whole disaster, and even his performance couldn't redeem it for me.

.5 out of 5

Kath
May 16, 2004

In his house at Rlyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreami- oh wait, he is up.
What a lovely post!

Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Jun 6, 2004

ShogunDingo
Apr 24, 2003
Take it to the limit!
My favorite book/movie. Gratuitous blood and nudity. The Nazi portion of the film still gives me chills.

5/5

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

quote:

ubiquitous rex came out of the closet to say:
I find it interesting that Kubrick hated this movie enough to try to get it banned in the U.K.
To clarify, by what I've read into it, it's not banned. Kubrick never wanted to see it again after youth decided to show what idiots they were and imitate the opening crime spree.

I also don't like this movie. To me, the main character in his "natural" state has all the depth of a Batman villain and then later I'm supposed to be sad because YOU BASTARDS YOU TOOK HIS HUMANITY.

Voted 1.5 only because knowing that one scene hosed up McDowell's eyeballs for life legitimately creeps me out, and that's gotta count for something.

Robot M
Apr 19, 2003

Forty-nine acres of nothing but scenery and statues
Clockwork Orange isn't as much about dehumanisation as it is youth and expression -- the reasoning behind the Ninth is that Alex is an athletic, intelligent, artistic young man, and he truly appreciates the Ninth in all its glory. Alex's violent acts are so violent, and he is so good at what he does because like Mozart, Alex is a prodigy: violence is simply his way of expressing himself. One of the reasons he breaks away from the Droogs is that he operates on a different level to Dim and the others, simply loving and beating for the fun of it. Burgess argues that violence is simply a natural part of life for many young people in society, and how the disastrous effects of a society that represses individuals and those who think against the status quo.

Film is awesome, 4/5

Debbie Metallica
Jun 7, 2001

Compared to some of his other movies, it's only OK in my opinion. While it's certainly better than most other movies, it's one that is unfortunately misinterpreted by way too many people. Can't really fault the book or the filmmaker for that, though.

4/5

Hot Dog Day #74
May 3, 2004
So a policeman, a rabbi, and a scientist walk into a room...

YOUR ALL WRONG, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

10/5

Squiggles
May 28, 2004
Couldn't have been a worse flick than this drivel. Not a likeable sot in the whole flick.

E: Must have been droll for you yanks though.

0/5

Squiggles fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Jun 27, 2004

Scissors
Mar 22, 2004


1/5. my suggestion... watch it with someone of the opposite sex, so when you get bored, you can fool around for 1.5 hours

crunchrape supreme
Jul 27, 2002

DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO
BLOoDSHED
COME 'N GET IT 'N THE YARBLES THAT IS IF YA GOT ANY YARBLES

Eighteen Rabbit
Nov 28, 2003
ANOREXIA IS AWESOME!
"Well to be perfectly honest, madam, I'm taking part in an international students contest! To see who can get the most points for selling magazines!"

I've only seen this movie once. I loved it mainly for the setting and style.

4.5

Pipski
Apr 18, 2004

quote:

Craptacular! came out of the closet to say:
To clarify, by what I've read into it, it's not banned. Kubrick never wanted to see it again after youth decided to show what idiots they were and imitate the opening crime spree.

Anticlimactically, the actual reason that SK banned the film was because his mother got so upset over the press reaction. True story. The tabloids (or at least the Mail, I imagine the rest followed suit) latched onto the film and said vile things about Kubrick. This upset SK's mother, so he effectively banned it.

Being banned has accorded this film several reputations that it doesn't deserve. I find the acting sub-par throughout, overstylised and undercharacterised. I like the photography a lot, but there are elements of the direction that I also dislike (the Keystone Kops-style speeded up sex scene in particular).

Burgess hated this film too, mainly because it eschewed the final chapter of the novel : Get it here: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/chabrieres/texts/clockwork_orange.html

It's actually quite good, from a film-making point of view, but it is over rated. I would love to see Cronenburg try his hand at ACO. I suspect he could top Kubricks.

Voted 3.5

Pipski fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Jun 29, 2004

The Great Catsby_
Jan 25, 2004
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-captain1million-3.gif" /><br />Oh shit, I think we just hit a breast flap.
Great film, with a truly great message.
PAIN IN ME GULLIVER
5.5/5

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Tardis
Jun 24, 2004
The film was OK, it had its moments. Though I think personally Kubrick could have done better seing some of his other work. The only reason I was able to sit through the entire movie was cause I viddied the novel first.

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