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Pointblank
Jan 1, 2004

It is a world transformed, where things are not what they seem.

Directed by: Michael Gondry
Starring: Jim Carrey, Kate Winslet

Although I saw this film at the cinema only days ago, I don't feel qualified to review it. Perhaps it's because I feel this movie is so exquisite that anything less than an analytical thesis by the director himself would do it justice. Perhaps it's because the entire time I was watching it I was telling myself that this was one of the finest things I had ever witnessed. Perhaps it's because I don't watch many movies of this calibre and have little to compare it to. Nevertheless, nobody has done it yet here, so I feel compelled to.

I'll steal the plot outline because I can't write a more concise one - A couple (Jim Carrey and Kate Winslet) undergo a procedure to erase each other from their memories when their relationship turns sour, but it is only through the process of loss that they discover what they had to begin with.

Written by Charlie Kaufman, (Adaptation, Being John Malkovich), the entire cast is perfect; there was a real feeling of humanity and emotion that I seldom experience in other movies. The cinematography (Michael Gondry) is a thing to behold, it conveys the dream/memory theme of the movie impressively. The movie follows a very non-sequential chronological sequence, which may confuse initially, but shouldn't be particularly difficult to follow. I haven't had the pleasure of repeat viewings, though I would expect it would reveal more and clarify some issues.

This is not a vehicle for Jim Carrey to showcase his physical talents and comedic style, but it does have it's humourous moments. This movie isn't for everyone; everybody I know who has seen it has had walk-outs. Their loss, really, but taste is taste: you can't please everyone.

5/5

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celestial teapot
Sep 9, 2003

He asked my religion and I replied "agnostic." He asked how to spell it, and remarked with a sigh: "Well, there are many religions, but I suppose they all worship the same God."

Sitting in the middle of a vast wasteland of remakes and sequels, Kaufman continues to prove that not only is there still good material that is unwritten and unknown, but that tried and tested formula might not even be the best way to do things within conventional storylines. Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind is a supreme feel-good movie, one that reminds us (convincingly) of our capacity to love each other and enjoy life. Viewers will also learn, or at least be reminded of, a profound life-lesson that enables us to make and maintain connections with people we love. Few films can have an impact as poignant as Eternal Sunshine. Highly recommended 5/5

celestial teapot fucked around with this message at May 3, 2004 around 13:17

Mordib
Feb 15, 2004



Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is one of an increasingly rare group of films that can be described as unique. Whilst it certainly is a drama of sorts its also much much more, there is no stereotype within which it comfortably fits.

One thing is for sure, it is a great movie, with a great plot, script, cinematography and acting to boot. As someone that generally doesnt enjoy Jim Carrey movies I was pleasantly suprised at what a solid, believable performance he puts in. It certainly isnt the kind of film he has become famous for, and surpasses even Truman Show as his greatest serious role.

Now many people have described Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind as a feel good movie (or at least the end of it). Maybe i am just overly cynical but I have to diagree. Its seriously depressing from start to finish, touching upon many of the most uncomfortable sides of relationships and life in general. Its overall message does initially appear to be a positive one, but only in comparison to the rest of the film, when applied to real life it lends itself more to pointing out how poo poo life really is and how little happiness we can actually expect to get out of it.

Still, a movie certainly doesnt have to be cheerful to be good and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind certainly is proof of this. 5/5 (4.5 but heh)

Sandy Hook Truther
Dec 5, 2003
I'm all about the swishy.

Kaufman is still one of the only guys out there who can write his own rules for his movies, and totally get away with it.

edit: 4.5/5

Sandy Hook Truther fucked around with this message at May 20, 2004 around 15:46

StrikerObi
Aug 1, 2003
SECharger73 hates sad reminders :[

This movie was brilliant. The story was great, and the cinematography and editing were some of the best I've ever seen. I highly reccomend it. It's just so beautiful.

stomachpancake
Nov 18, 2003

I'm fucking Lady Jaye.

I loved it. I wasn't a big fan of Kaufman's other films, but I found this one just delightful to watch.

It's not for everyone, though. Very strange, but pleasant to watch. And if there's a better character today than Tom Wilkinson, I haven't seen him.

blatch
Feb 17, 2003

by Ozma


This movie is an emotional opus. A perfectly seamless display of what chemistry between actors can phathom.

magjac
May 20, 2001

by Fistgrrl


Kaufman is truly one of the best writers of our time. Gondry perfectly imagines this script on the screen. The acting, cinematography, editing are all brilliant. It may be a perfect film - definitely the best of the year thus far.

toolboi
Jul 24, 2002



Kaufman is a genious. Thats all there is to it. Leaping into the film industry with Being John Malkovich, which was perhaps one of the most intelligent films ever made, then going on to do Human Nature with Gondrey (a rather mediocre flick in truth) and the brilliant "Adapatation".

Again Kaufman teams up with Gondrey for this movie. However this time Gondrey really lets Kaufman handle the set up of the movie, and it shows. Every twist is hinted at very well, every moment a recollection of another, and the themes and ideas ( bringing one memory into another so as to protect it was a great idea). However it did have a few problems. For one, the ending, while good, seems a little forced. Also it doesnt tie up as neatly as his films with Spike Jonez, though that may be a directorial thing rather than script based.

Where this movie does excell, however, is acting. Winslet and Carry are fantastic. Carry is virtually un recognizable, neverslipping back into his normal character (he tends to play a similar character in most movies). Winslet was amazing, unrecognizable, and downright brilliant. I found my self wondering "wow, this actress is really good, I wonder who she is..." only to later find out that she is the same actress from Quills, Fairies, and Titanic.

5

brian
Sep 11, 2001
I obtained this title through beard tax.

I really liked this film, but found it lacked in some areas, it had some forced story lines, an ending which just didn't need to occur and while the cinematography was good, it suffered from the usual dream-sequence thing where you sometimes can't tell what's dream and what's reality. However, it was a great film, in my opinion not as good as Magnolia, but close and a drat good effort. I don't like how Kaufman is now being used as a name for people to say "I KNOW A GOOD FILM WHEN I SEE ONE", as I found Human Nature and Adaptation both quite mediocre (adaptation was significantly better though).

4.5/5

Sexpansion
Mar 22, 2003

Powered by vodka!

I'll start off by saying that I enjoyed this film.

The performances are all excellent; Jim Carrey especially. The is one of the most genuine, low-key yet intense performances I've ever seen Carrey give. By far my favorite work by him so far. Winslet, Ruffalo, and everyone else are also quite good. The direction is often excellent, although at times a bit too busy for my taste. The cinematography is consistently excellent.

My only real problem with this film is the script. I've had a love (Adaptation) / hate (Being John Malkovich) relationship with Kaufman's past scripts. I liked this script but I must admit that I am getting a bit tired of Kaufman's "shtick". Take damaged characters, insert into relatively similar yet slightly crazy parallel reality, and sprinkle on some insight into the human condition. It's not that it's bad, I would merely like to see him take a step outside of the thematic regularity that is beginning to crop up.

Still a good film, and very watchable (especially for the performances.)
4/5

vtlock
Feb 7, 2003



quote:

malathion came out of the closet to say:
Sitting in the middle of a vast wasteland of remakes and sequels, Kaufman continues to prove that not only is there still good material that is unwritten and unknown, but that tried and tested formula might not even be the best way to do things within conventional storylines.

Malathion, that's probably the best and most accurate response to this movie yet. Eternal Sunshine is brilliant on many levels, but the entire premise -- taking the age-old romance falling apart story and deconstructing it -- is incredible on levels I can't even begin to understand. Memories are a core part of the human condition, but by navigating his movie through the continually evolving state of memory, Kaufman makes an incredible statement on both love and loss.

This is one of the most original and most exciting films I've ever seen.

Rated 5.0

Bob Mundon
Dec 1, 2003
Your Friendly Neighborhood Gun Nut

im not giving this a 5 for no reason, it really is one of the best movies i have ever seen, and definitely the best ive seen in a theater in a very long time.

foetus66
Sep 6, 2003

splat happy.

I gave this a 5 and hope that kaufman will continue what I see as besting his previous works with each effort. There is definitely a certain feel to the way he prescribes the sensations and motives of his films, but I see this as a good thing.

quote:

Sexpansion came out of the closet to say:
My only real problem with this film is the script. I've had a love (Adaptation) / hate (Being John Malkovich) relationship with Kaufman's past scripts. I liked this script but I must admit that I am getting a bit tired of Kaufman's "shtick". Take damaged characters, insert into relatively similar yet slightly crazy parallel reality, and sprinkle on some insight into the human condition. It's not that it's bad, I would merely like to see him take a step outside of the thematic regularity that is beginning to crop up.
Personally, I like finding that familiarity now -- I mean, I wouldn't say that Picasso's works were too Picassoey. A crappy/cheesy analogy I know, but i just cant think of a better one at the moment. I guess what I'm saying is that I think having a unique style and an original formula that works is pretty much the poo poo..

Knotty Naughty
Jul 11, 2003


It was a good movie, but I thought that a lot of it was artsy just for being artsy's sake. For instance, all the blurred, semi-druggy shots near the beginning, the weirdness when Joel is at the doctor's office, all sort of struck me as a red herring and took away from the film experience for me. It also seemed to lose track of its own plot for a while in the third quarter of the film, and for some reason, the end left me with an empty feeling about the movie. 3.5/5

JAKeCOdED
Sep 9, 2003


quote:

appz came out of the closet to say:
It all the blurred, semi-druggy shots near the beginning, the weirdness when Joel is at the doctor's office, all sort of struck me as a red herring and took away from the film experience for me.

A semi-drugged feeling was indeed implemented during the beginning but why? Joel was drugged the night before and that is what he was feeling. That is the way the director wanted us to feel through his character, jarred and somewhat uncomfortable. Weirdness? The cinematic aesthetics of memory erasing were quite profound. It was a reification of the process that was taking place metaphysically inside Joel’s mind. I think the director’s vision was profound. The film experience as a whole was nothing less than incredible for me. 5.0

Ajaarg
Jul 25, 2000
Probation
Can't post for 3103 days!


quote:

foetus66 came out of the closet to say:
Personally, I like finding that familiarity now -- I mean, I wouldn't say that Picasso's works were too Picassoey. A crappy/cheesy analogy I know, but i just cant think of a better one at the moment. I guess what I'm saying is that I think having a unique style and an original formula that works is pretty much the poo poo..

There's a difference between "style" and "formula." Tom Clancy is formula. Chuck Palahniuk is starting to edge into formula. Vonnegut is style.

I'd definitely have to say Kaufman is style. He does things in similar ways but not carbon-copied ways. Plus, he seems to explore different ideas in each film- you saw a bit of the memory/subconscious thing in Being John Malkovich, but the whole movie is this way here.

loving amazing. I would give it a 5, but I'm hesitant to do that right now. Yet I feel 4.5 might be underrating it a bit. I will have to wait for a second viewing.

Bonk
Aug 4, 2002

Douche Baggins

Really, really cool movie. Not only does it constantly keep you trying to figure out what's going on until it reveals itself, but it really makes you feel for the characters to the point where you really want them to work things out. I've been a fan of Kate Winslet as an actress for awhile, but who knew Jim Carrey could pull off such an absolutely compelling serious role without a single goofy face? I haven't seen all of the Truman Show so I don't know how that compares, but I would not be surprised at all if Carrey is up for Best Actor next year. I also really liked Elijah Wood's supporting role, I never would have thought that only a few months after seeing innocent, heroic Frodo, that I'd be seeing an unlikeable jerk like his character was in this. One thing that I think is the mark of a great actor is when you can see them in a role and not think of their previous roles...When Elijah Wood was on screen, I didn't think "Hey, it's Frodo" a single time, nor did I think of Carrey as Ace Ventura or any of his other roles.

What I like about Kaufman's films is that he seems to have a completely alternate way of presenting a situation. As unrealistic as 'memory erasing' procedures are, the characters and situations they get into are very real, and not everything in life turns out the way we intend them to. I think I definitely want to see this again just because some parts were a little confusing at first (until I figured out what was going on), but I really enjoyed it. It was sweet, funny, and sad all at once.

4.5/5 - though once I see it again I might change that.

Weeatherhead
Sep 25, 2003
poop

Absolutely brilliant, I can't put into words how this movie makes me feel, just amazing.

Andrigaar
Dec 12, 2003
Saint of Killers


This is still one of my top movies for the year, but on it's own that's unfair to say since all the major Oscar nominees and tear-jerkers won't hit until around October-December for final entires into Oscar season (eg: "Chicago" (2002) won best picture, and hit limited in December, wide around January 1st).

The directing was solid, the acting was all spot-on smooth. Jim Carrey not only avoiding his usual and now tiring (for me) antics almost the entire movie, but he was good in it as the lead! The way the ending built up and was executed so smoothly was phenomenal. I'd love to comment about anything, but I'll refrain potential spoilers since not everyone seems to catch a few details I accidentally did.

This haphazard dramedy is a must see of 2004.

Davenport
Sep 8, 2003

Good morning from here.


Though I really despise Jim Carrey, he completely cleaned his slate with me in this movie showing a range of emotions seldom seen in even the best dramatic actors. He deserves all the accolates that have been heaped on him for this role, and I think it would be a travesty if he doesn't at least get nominated for the Oscar.

Captain Fwiffo
Jan 23, 2004

Resident of Pluto

The acting in this is very toned down and quiet when it needs to be, which was surprising, considering the cast. The cinematography is appropriately claustrophobic, and the script is a delightful mix of off-beat humor and cheesy, nostalgic yearning.
Excellent film.

Lloyddy
Sep 27, 2000



I loved Being John Malkovich and Adaptation, but I hated this. Jim Carrey's performance reminded me of Tom Hank's in "Road To Perdition": awkward, charmless and boring. The rest of the cast was fine, but it wasn't the most challening film acting wise. Tom Wilkinsons accent was loving terrible though.

The main problem I had with this film was that it bored the hell out of me. Its attempts at being charming and quirky and surreal fell completely flat. It failed at all three genres it could be placed in: it was bad comedy, bad drama and also bad science fiction. The plot "twist" involving Kirsten Dunst and Tom Wilskinson was so awful and predictable that I couldn't believe I was watching a Kaufman movie.

Techinically there was no problems, the direction was fine and the production design wasn't bad at all (probably the only thing that kept me watching). But two dullards plodding through a bad sci-fi story isn't my idea of a good time. The group sitting in front of us walked out 30 minutes in: after initially berating them for not giving the film a chance I realised by the end they had done the right thing.

Maybe it is Spike Jonze who has all the talent after all.

imwithstupid
May 17, 2004

"Hey, son. How was school?"

I found this movie to be amazing. Truthfully, I saw a preview somewhere and wanted nothing to do with it, just not at all turned on by the preview. Then I happened to hear that it was written by Kaufman, so I decided to try it out. I managed to goad a friend into going, and we got to the theater, and look around, and it was pretty much empty. There were 10 other people, every single one some lovey dovey couple. I felt like a total tool, thinking we'd chosen some lame romance or something and I was wrong to want to see this. Suddenly, I had this negative attitude.

I have no idea when it happened, but it was within 5 minutes, I was completely drawn in, forgot I was in a theater feeling like a tool, just completely absorbed. Carey was outstanding, I really forgot it was Jim Carey and totally thought it was Joel. Only thought I had about Kate Winslett as Kate Winslett was when did she get so hot. I completely didn't think about any of her other performances or Leo and all that Titanic garbage. The movie was just so amazinly compelling, I was actually gripping the arms of the chair, hoping they found some way to come out on top.

That said, I loved it to death, but do not get the upbeat thing. I thought the entire thing was increadibley depressing, and it seems to me the best that can be hoped for is for them to repeat their mistakes all over again. Though I guess the lesson there is that those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it. I know they know their mistakes from the tapes, but they just seemed to so easily slip into their old habits of argueing and not listening.

imwithstupid fucked around with this message at May 18, 2004 around 08:07

York_M_Chan
Sep 11, 2003



I don't want to be picky but everyone is kind of sucking Kaufman off, when "Eternal Sunshine" was actually conceived and the treatment written by Gondry.

aventari
Mar 20, 2001

I SWIFTLY PENETRATED YOUR MOMS MEAT TACO WHILE AGGRESSIVELY FONDLING THE UNDERSIDE OF YOUR DADS HAIRY BALLSACK, THEN RIPPED HIS SAUSAGE OFF AND RAMMED IT INTO YOUR MOMS TAILPIPE. I JIZZED FURIOUSLY, DEEP IN YOUR MOMS MEATY BURGER WHILE THRUSTING A ANSA MUFFLER UP MY GREASY TAILHOLE

I went in to the theatre having no idea what the movie was about excep that Jim Carey was in it. My girlfriend and I absolutely loved it. It's the best 'new' movie I've seen in a long long long time.

The baby scene bugged me a little bit.

4.5/5

Bun Bun
Apr 7, 2002

Fear The Bunny

Yeah i sort of had that same experience where all i knew was that starsky and hutch was sold out and jim carrey was in this movie. I came out quite amazed with this movie and with jim carrey. I thought he was awesome in the Truman Show and showed his potential to be a good actor, here he really showed it and seriously think its oscar time for him.
This was a beautiful movie, with some amazing story telling, and turly a work of art. The only complaint i have is the ending. I wont give it away, but i think that if the movie had ended five minutes earlier than it did, i wouldn't have left such a bad taste in my mouth after i left the theater. It really leaves you with a since that nothing was resolved. Watch it for yourself and judge.

ReActor
Jun 1, 2000

MEANIE

I can understand why this film is getting so much praise, particularly for the amazing quality of the direction, but it just left me cold. The main characters seemed like such sterotypical archetypes (the vivacious but rather hosed up woman, the quiet, inarticulate guy in the corner), they didn't seem to have any charm at all.

The action got highly repetitive after about the first half, with Jim Carrey's character just running from memory to memory. I know that it was meant to be confusing at first but gradually more and more coherent, and I guess it was, but watching it was not a very pleasing sensation. There were storylines apart from the main one which were more interesting to me, like what was going on with the doctor and receptionist, and Elijah Wood's character... more interesting than the main story by virtue of the slightly less clichéd characters.

It's surprising that anyone could find it uplifting - two doomed misfits stuck with an irresitable love which turns into such a cold dislike that they cynically erase each other... I just don't see it. Overall an incredibly well crafted film, but just really difficult to like or derive any sense of fun from.

3/5 for technical merit.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 2003




This is an excellent movie. Beautiful cinematography, beautiful soundtrack, and a rather beautiful story too. The script is another "clever" piece of work by Charlie Kaufman, but although his typical tricks are at work here, the film does not rely on them, which is what makes them work.

5

BORING IDIOT
Jan 28, 2004


A very emotional movie, it got me thinking as to a few things, but didn't affect me as much as I would have liked, mainly because I don't see how someone can be so irresponsible with someone else's head . Very well made, though.

aos
Mar 4, 2004


This is one of those movies that I was genuinely glad I paid for, and would pay more for it if asked by anyone associated with it. Those movies are far and few between.

That being said, I thought everything, quite literally, about this movie fit into a nice package that worked so well that it was easily my favorite movie in recent memory. To me, it plays out like the popular Eel's LP, Electro-Shock Blues. Its subject matter is rather depressing, but it ultimately has the most beautiful life-affirming message of all. The directing was spot-on, capturing tension, happiness and anger at all the right times. The acting was as well. Some of the scenes, and especially the lighting (the spotlight of memory) was among the best in any movie. The premise was original enough to strike that vein, but realistic enough to be at the very least somewhat grounded to earth. Even the stories apart from the primary were excellently executed and told.

I sat on the roof of a parking garage after this movie, and felt like a kid just discovering the joys and beauty of life afterwords.

scohoe
Oct 31, 2003

always on the fence...


I recently got the michel gondry director label DVD. After watching it i went out to see this movie purely on the basis that i wanted to see what he could do with a full movie. Now i had no real idea what the movie was about as there was no advertisements i can remeber seeing, but i was thourghly impressed by this movie. Being a huge jim carrey fan, i love seeing him in new roles, and showing people he's not just a funny rubberface, he's a good actor as well. Gondry is fast-becoming one of my favorite directors, his vision and ideas are so amazing that i find myself thinking about them long after i've seen a work of his and wondering just how in the hell did he do that.

oh and this probally isnt worth saying anymore, but Charlie Kaufman is genius too


in closing, everyone should see this movie, infact, you should see it time and time again.

edit: <-new avatar

5.5

scohoe fucked around with this message at Jan 26, 2005 around 23:18

MadSketcher
Aug 7, 2002

A plague of faggotry upon thee!

Very well done... amazing cinematography. I was expecting another Being John Malkovich so I was kind of disappointed. I'd watch it again, though. It wasn't as engaging as I thought it was going to be.

Kirsten Dunst was pretty lame and annoying.

3/5

Eighteen Rabbit
Nov 28, 2003
ANOREXIA IS AWESOME!

Upon the first viewing I would probably have rated this a 4.5.

After I saw it again, however, it lost much of it's appeal, and seemed much more transparent.

4

Frank Zappa
Feb 6, 2004

Electric Aunt Jemima - Goddess of Love

Another interesting non-comedy movie from Carrey.

Very good. 4/5.

IndieRockLance
Jan 29, 2003

The devourer of worlds demands a Moon Pie to satiate his hunger!

(Oops, I didn't see the thread when I looked for it in the list)

Oh, Charlie Kaufman, you've brought us into the head of John Malkovich, the secret life of Chuck Barris and even your own exaggerated life. For your next trick, you turn Jim Carrey into a serious actor. David Blain be damned, you're the real magician here.

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is a love story between Joel (Jim Carrey) and Clementine (Kate Winslet). Their relationship begins to disintigrate and Clementine undergoes a process to have her memory erased. Joel finds out and, as a retaliation, he undergoes the same process. Enter memory erasing specialists Stan (Mark Ruffalo), Patrick (Elijah Wood) and Dr. Howard (Tom Wilkinson). The secretary/Stan's woman, Mary (Kirsten Dunst) also plays a crucial role in the plot. As they perform the memory erasing, Joel realizes how much he really loved Clementine and attempts to abort the operation by going off track, hiding with her memory in hidden memories (including a couple weird ones like when he was an infant and when his mom walked in on him whacking off). At the same time, he tries to futilly alert her that Patrick is trying to woo her by stealing his identity from the things he brought in that reminded him of her. Eventually, the process is finished and they meet again, but do they hook up again? I'll spoil that at the end of the review.

The movie itself, although very odd and out there, is easy to connect with on a personal level. All of you have wanted to have people erased from your memory and many can identify with the awkwardness of Jim Carrey's character around the impulsive blue-haired lunatic. It's hard to not get wrapped up in the movie, unlike many romantic dramedys (ie every single movie with Julia Roberts in it) it seems very real as long as you can give them enough slack to cover the whole memory erasing thing. Each actor gives a hell of a performance, initially I was afraid that Jim Carrey's over the top bullshit would get the best of him, but this is his best completely serious role to date, with the possible exception of The Truman Show.

Unfortunately the story's plot twist is very easy to figure out, that the movie starts when Joel and Clementine meet for the second time, after they have the procedure done. Also, while I love David Cross, his part in the movie seems superfluous. He gives Joel the card, but I couldn't understand why he had it in the first place or really what his purpose was in the movie. It's not Charlie Kaufman's strongest script, but it's much better than Being John Malkovich.

Ending Spoiler: By the end of the movie, Mary finds out that she had a messy affair with Dr. Howard and had he memory erased of him. She runs off in tears, then goes through all of Howard's files and finds a tape to prove that it actually happened. She then goes through all of the files and mails everyone their tapes. Clementine finds hers, when she goes to get her things so she can spend the day with her new friend (Joel). They put in the tape, they hear all the nasty things she said about him, he kicks her out. Cut to Joel's apartment, he's listening to his own tape and Clementine overhears it. They question trying the relationship and end up saying "Who cares if we end up hating each other?" End movie.

The ending is kind of weak and anticlimatic, but overall it was a very well written and produced movie. The actors fit their characters perfectly and despite some editing that needed to be done, it's one of the most perfect romantic drama/comedys I've ever seen.

RATING: 5.0

PROS: Interesting original story, easy to connect with, likable characters, sweet and enjoyable
CONS: Drags at parts, very obvious plot twists, seemingly useless characters

IndieRockLance fucked around with this message at Jul 14, 2004 around 01:52

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

"You got to be one of the good guys, cause there's way too many of the bad."


I've just watched this and I have to say that personally, I can safely place this among my favourite dramas.

While I can understand and see why many wouldn't and don't enjoy this movie on any number of technical or personal levels, I do think that how you saw the film unfold really effects your final judgement.
I realised half-way through the 'procedure' that it isn't a movie, but rather a book. The mental and psychological (in the case of this film they can be two separate things) themes that were rampant throughout the movie as well as the (in my opinion) masterful cinematography made me think of exactly how my brain works when reading a story. Jumping from one memory in the story to another, discovering new ties, imagining new locations I've never been which are incomplete and only the characters in question and their immediate surroundings are there, etc. [/jumble of ideas]


I did think that the side story with kirsten dunst and tom wilkinson wasn't done as well as it could have been. The final feeling about Kirsten and Tom's characters are more confusion and uncaring in a "What the hell was that all about? Oh well." type of sense. While necessary for the final action to unfold (Jim and Kate discovering what they did) it was forced into the story simply to give a reason for the final action TO unfold.
I think that there are two ways it could have gone; 1) Elaborate and delve more into their story so as to give the viewers more reason to justify and empathise with Kirsten's character. That, however, would then take much away from the audience's focus on the real thread in the story as well as being partly useless as Kirsten's character parallels strongly with Kate's character. 2) Not put any focus on the side story at all and just have Jim and Kate receive the files in the mail. This is just as bad a decision, unfortunately, because now there is NO reason for the final event and the audience now asks why that happened instead of focusing on the two main characters.
Neither are really better than what we were offered and as such I remain satisfied with how it was written out.

I really appreciate the main theme for this film - that of memories and to cherish what you DID have. While they can be a burden on you sometimes, there's no way to learn from them and to grow stronger and become a better person without remembering them. Definately impossible to realise when you don't have those memories anymore, but receiving their files most certainly helped Joel and Clementine realise this and their error.


I would give this a 4.5 if not for how much I realise just how many problems could have arisen in the story and just how difficult it must have been to write this screenplay so it gets a 4.5 from me with +.5 for effort.

warptail
Jul 14, 2004

LOAD “*”,8,1

I can't really come up with anything to add to what everyone else has said. This is easily one of the best damned films I've ever seen. My wife, on the other hand, thought it rather boring and that it dragged on for too long. Why I have not divorced her, I do not know.

¶1|z
Jun 3, 2002



I just watched this thanks to btb before it comes out in theatres here, but I'll probably watch it again in theater....


I enjoyed it a lot, one of the best 2004 movies so far I think and it makes you think about your own love life, I recognize some parts in this movie to well from my relationship with my girlfriend and now I'm even more confused

anyways: a fat 5

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J-Pak
Jan 26, 2004

I'm from the phone company...

I just watched this movie at home and was pretty stunned at how good it was. I thought this was going to be feel good movie of the year, but it turned out it was the complete opposite of what I had expected. This movie portrays 2 characters that are very vulnerable in their own ways and they both have qualities that everyone can relate to.

I had to stop the movie a few times just to tear my hair out and contemplate where some of the movie was and what was happening in that particular time, as the order that its showed in can get really confusing, and you're always asking yourself which part of their relationship they are in. This was a good thing for this type of movie as it forced me to stay focused the whole time and made me pick up on the finer details of the movie.

My only complaint is that I didn't care too much about the side plot with the dr, Kirsten Dunst and Elijah, but I guess in its own right this may have been a good thing so as not to detract from the main part of the film.

Easily earned 5

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