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jaym
Jan 23, 2004

by OMGWTFBBQ
I think people are buying into the hype of this movie a little to much. Is it the best movie based on a comic book ever made? Yes. Is it the best movie ever? No.

I predicted this movie was going to blow. I was very wrong. Go watch it.

4.5/5

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wilco
Jun 30, 2003

russian rokenrol revolution
4.5/5. A really good movie, with plenty of geeky Marvel/Raimi aspects to dote on (like playing "Where's Waldo" with Sam's car, Bruce "Chin" Campbell, Stan Lee, and other Spiderman characters), really, really good acting on the part of Alfred Molina, and great humor scenes that are hardly groan-inducing (aside from Ashy Larry yelling "Hay, he just stole that dude's pizza!"). I knew JJJ looked familiar from somewhere, turns out J.K. Simmons is also Dr. Emil Skoda on L&O, so there's another geeky connection for me. You can see it, too; his sarcastic wit that is in JJJ comes through in Skoda.

There were cons for me as well: the pacing of the movie was jerky, and I think the movie could have been better if some of the scenes were simply re-arranged. For instance, the whole subplot arc with Peter Parker trying to reconcile his issues with being Spiderman and what not was entirely too long, causing me to suddenly have to remember that there was a mad scientist with 4 mechanical tentacles running about when we finally get back to him. The sudden absolution at the end with Doc Oc saying that there was no way to stop a self-sustaining fusion reaction and then deciding "Wait, just pour water on it, that'll work" bugged me as well, and was probably shoehorned into the movie in order to provide a means to absolve Octavius by sacrificing himself. Also, I could have done with about three gallons less of the Christ metaphors and the dopey romantic gush between Tits and Tobey, but this is probably because I am such a jaded bastard.

Hey, since when are movie reviews objective?

Atomo1
Mar 21, 2004

by Fistgrrl
Awesome loving movie that I plan on seeing multiple times. Yes the movie drags in some places and there's one too many closeups of Tobey Maguire looking doe-eyed but the fights are loving awesome and they managed to make Doc Ock 10,000 cooler than he ever was in the comics without x-treming him out.

5/5, trumps the original by leaps and bounds.

seraph82
Apr 25, 2004
The Original Superfreak
5/5 easy



not seeing this movie is like not knowing what sex is like

Xile77
Sep 18, 2003
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/customtitles/title-xile77.jpg" /><br />I love my fellow semen
5/5

I loved the entire movie. The action was great, the dialog was believable and smooth, and the plot kicked rear end. Sam Raimi really did a great job with this movie. It was much easier to suspend belief and get sucked into the world of the movie than the first Spiderman.

Plus all the little things that Raimi threw into the movie, like Bruce Campbell and the other Raimi(I can't remember his name).

liquid.pleasure
Jan 13, 2004
My uncle's beard tickles
cheezy movie, cheezy plot, uncertain rythm, laughable foes,

"we swear we're not gonna tell anyone, spider man" --> HAHAHAHA

Running bride at the end--> HAHAHAHAHHA, ridicoulus..


+ : Good graphics, good 5 minutes of action scenes
- : Everything else (including the loving morals (I wanna have a hero to look up to)

But my little brother realy liked it, there were some explosions.. (wow!, kabooom!)

Weak : 2/5

Quentin Hardcore
Apr 27, 2004
Fundamentalist
I was roped into seeing this film, against my will, and ended up being pleasantly surprised. It's amazing what they can do with computers nowadays, what with their "CGI" and their "whizbangery" and whatnot. There were times during the film when I genuinely believed I was about to fall to my death.

Dr Octopus made for an engaging supervillain. Part of me wanted to see him transform into "Super" Dr Octopus, which I was led to believe would occur due to the fact that he had acquired what scientists refer to as "a shitload of tritium". Sadly it wasn't to be. This was my main gripe with the film. On the upside though, Dr Octopus let out a few evil smirks which just made him seem that much more evil.

The drama was well handled throughout the film. The focal point of this drama was Peter Parker’s schizophrenic conflicts about whether to pursue a life of fighting crime or a life of poontang with Kirsten Dunst. This is a conflict we all must face at some time in our lives. He ended up deciding to do both. Some of the drama scenes here were genuinely affecting. Either that or I’m coming down with something.

One thing that annoyed me was the unmistakable Christ allegory in the train scene. This led me to believe that the makers of Spiderman 2 were jumping on the "Christ-allegory bandwagon" that started with Christ and was next seen in the film Matrix Revolutions. There was only one Christ, my friends, and that was Jesus H Christ!

Apart from that, it was a way-above-average action flick and I give it 4.5/5.

Bionic Scrotum
Jul 27, 2003

ignorant AND apathetic

quote:

Serious Spam came out of the closet to say:
- No sign of Venom as rumors suggested.. which is a shame.. but at the same time they are doing that whole "costume with a mind of its own" thing with the goblin and its going to look stupid to do the same exact thing with venom.. or maybe I dont know what Im talking about.

There was some possible Venom foreshadowing, albeit very sublte:

When Peter dumps the Spidey suit in the trash, you see the mask hanging over the edge, then the scene fades to black, so all you see for several moments are the white eyes on black. Like the black Spidey suit and eventually Venom.

The other scene that was mildly brilliant was When Peter was doing his laundry, and had his Spidey suit in the load and it turned all his regular clothes pink. To me I thought this was a perfect reference on how Peter's life as Spidey was having such a negative effect on his mundane, real world life.

cams
Mar 28, 2003


Despite a few flaws, this movie is an EASY perfect score. I saw this the other day with my friends, and we all had a rockin good time. Laughs to be had, action to be seen, it was worth every penny. But, the flaws:

- Mary Jane running in her wedding dress scene, while funny to me and my friends, just looked akward and poorly shot. Why couldn't she just change into normal clothes nad run to Pete's?
-Some cheesy dialogue, but this made the movie even better just because I was with my friends so we laughed really hard when the dialogue got super cheesy or just odd ("Wanna go get some Chow-Mein?" :lol: "You can't get off if you never got on")
-The kids finding his mask on the train. What the hell, were they riding on top?

But, the positives are EVERYTHING else in the movie.

I lolled at "SPIDER-MAN JUST STOLE THAT GUY'S PIZZA!"

NADZILLA
Dec 16, 2003
iron helps us play
Fine loving entertainment. Molina's Dr. Octopus sure puts the Green Goblin to shame. For a tubby, Elton John lookalike, he's pretty frightning. Raimi directs with the knowledge that yes, this is a comic book movie, and it shows in a lot of individual reaction shots that look like they were pulled directly from the comic pages. I take issue with Peter Parker being such a goddamn crybaby though, and Mary Jane is an incredibly bland character.

Four.

hunted
Jul 28, 2003
Really good movie, the special effects werent the best I've seen, but just for the story this movie is worth it.
There were some great comedy scenes spiderman + elevator or pizza delivery
And the usual spiderman action and Doc Oc is a great villian.

Voted 4.5

Tomcat1944
Mar 31, 2004

Be at peace my friends
This is quite possibly one of the worst hollywood blockbusters ive ever seen. Disgusting script, horrible directing, and somewhat bad acting. The only thing redeaming is the CGI and that has nothing to do with the director. This is boring, gay, lame, however you want to put it. Full of continuity errors (how did he pay for his apartment, and WTF is up with his skelator blond neighbor) this sucks more than me sticking my dick in a reverse leaf blower. At least there wasnt blatent coporate advertising, like spiderman eating at burger king. The bullshit puppylove drama is old, cold, and played out, with no real passion. Under normal circumstances I would rate this a 2/5, but since you numbskulls are obsessed with 5.5/5, I give this a go gently caress yourself 1/5.

And remember "GIVE UP YOUR DREAMS"

GIVE UP YOUR DREAMS!!!!!!!!!!

Shakey
May 12, 2004

by OMGWTFBBQ
I thought it was really good, especially compared to the first film. I really don't have any complaints, but I found it funny that he ended up revealing his identity to about 30 people. Not necessarily a bad thing, but in the comics I thought he was more careful about that.

Awesome though.

5/5

Auckum
Dec 20, 2003

Navels?!?
This is easily the best "summer blockbuster" of the year. I doubt anything will come along this summer that will be better. The Spiderman franchise seems like one (at least through the first two movies) that is actually going to deliver in an era when Hollywood is spitting out lovely sequels and lovely movies. The acting was good (it wasn't great but you can't seriously expect Oscar winning acting in a summer movie), it had a good story, and great directing and special effects. The only posible way that you wouldn't like this movie is if you don't like the genre or you went into the theatre not giving it a chance.

5/5

MakaVillian
Aug 16, 2003

Well, in Whoville they say - that his tiny hands grew three sizes that day.

I just came back from the movie and it has easily been the best movie i've seen in a year, at least. The CGI was way, way better than the first one with the Spiderman swinging sequences actually looking real and Ock's tentacles were absolutely spectacular, When Octopus is taking MJ away from the coffe shop I honestly couldn't tell if Molina and/or MJ were CGI or real. Molina was great as both Octavius and Octopus. I was surprised at how likable Octavius was I thought that he would be a miserable bastard right from the get go but he wasn't.

But what really made the movie for me was MaGuire's Peter Parker. He was just so perfect as the guy who's a introverted, hard luck nerd whos life seems to be crashing down around him and he cannot do anything about it. I think the scene where Harry slaps him at the science ball typifies Peter's pathetic life, he tries so hard to be a hard working, good guy but in the end he almost always fails at everything because of his obligation to be Spiderman.

However the middle of the movie was slow as gently caress, and Kirsten Dunst was not the best choice for Mary Jane Watson. I also think that the movie, like many superhero stories, paints Peter's choices as too black and white. For example [spoiler]when the guy was getting beat up in the alley as Peter walked by, he still could've done something to help the guy, you don't have to be a superhero to be a hero. Same thing with the fire, yes he didn't save the guy upstairs but at least he made an attempt and did save a little girl's life. What guarantee is there that he would've saved the guys life even if he was Spiderman[spoiler]. I think he certainly had to make the choice to be Spiderman, but you don't have to do nothing if your not Spiderman.


Overall though this was an awesome movie with a large chunk of slowness in the middle and some akward dialogue but it was more than made up for buy the acting of Maguire as a struggling Peter and the great CGI and action scenes (ie. Train scene).

Edit:I loved Stan Lee's cameo, I wasn't sure it was him at first but the voice gave him away.

4.5/5

MakaVillian fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Jul 3, 2004

Horseface
Jun 29, 2003

Please put your hands together for Homosexuals the Gorilla!
I have a confession to make: I didn't like the first Spider-Man. For each thing they got right they hosed up something else. The dialogue was atrocious (Star Wars prequel-bad in parts), the action was boring, the acting was wooden, and worst of all there were extended scenes of stuntmen in inarticulate costumes pantomiming at each other like an episode of Power Rangers. In short it was CHEESY, and not the good-natured, aw-golly-gee-shucks cheese that added so much charm to the first Superman movie. It was cringe-inducing cheese.

Spider-Man 2 takes everything I hated about the first movie and fixes it. Then it takes everything I liked about the first one and makes it twice as good. There have been a lot of super hero movies, and a lot of them captured a certain element of the genre - Superman had the mythological underpinnings, Burton's Batman had the style, Hellboy had the humor. X2 was almost the complete package but it overexerted itself, cramming in a surplus of plot and not enough character.

Spider-Man 2 is the full package. The real deal. The superhero movie to end all superhero movies. It's an exhaustive analyzation of the hero's dilemma that never gets bogged down in wordiness, never gets boring, and always remembers to include an action sequence every few pages...er, scenes. It is the pinnacle of its genre, and we'll be lucky to see its equal any time soon.

I don't want to get too bogged down in details (not to mention spoilers) so I'll just toss out a few random notes:

- Awesome opening credits

- In-jokes galore! Betty Brant, the cover of #50, "tiger", Dr. Strange, Tobey's back pains, and Stan Lee saves a litle girl AGAIN.

- The Green Goblin was an awesome villain in the comics and a really lovely villain in the movie, mainly because the comics took time to build up his threat. Doc Ock is awesome from the get-go, and you can sympathize with him. Everybody knows that best villains are the ones you understand.

- I couldn't even tell the first one was by Sam Raimi, but his style is all over this one. Maybe it was just my imagination but I could swear there was an Evil Dead reference (chainsaw)

- Action sequences are incredible, and make it a shoo-in for the SFX oscar. I think I forgot to breathe during the train sequence.

- Loved the ending, partly because it genuinely took me by surprise. But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not go with the loving Green Goblin again. Please. Just make Harry Venom or the Sandman and I'll be happy

5.5

Komissar Steve
Jun 18, 2004

by Fragmaster

quote:

Tomcat1944 came out of the closet to say:
This is quite possibly one of the worst hollywood blockbusters ive ever seen. Disgusting script, horrible directing, and somewhat bad acting. The only thing redeaming is the CGI and that has nothing to do with the director. This is boring, gay, lame, however you want to put it. Full of continuity errors (how did he pay for his apartment, and WTF is up with his skelator blond neighbor) this sucks more than me sticking my dick in a reverse leaf blower. At least there wasnt blatent coporate advertising, like spiderman eating at burger king. The bullshit puppylove drama is old, cold, and played out, with no real passion. Under normal circumstances I would rate this a 2/5, but since you numbskulls are obsessed with 5.5/5, I give this a go gently caress yourself 1/5.

And remember "GIVE UP YOUR DREAMS"

GIVE UP YOUR DREAMS!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like someone had a few preconceived notions about this film that tainted his views.

Beans
May 12, 2001

I WILL ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO PROPERLY DISCERN BANDWAGON FANS FROM TRUE FANS.
4.5
Some very funny, humorous moments (i.e. elevator)
Great action sequences and incredible buildup for Spider-Man 3
Overall great acting by everyone not named Kirsten Dunst
Bad parts:
I had incredibly high expectations going into this movie, but I walked out of it feeling incomplete. I can't tell if it was because I thought that the movie would be more (although it reached my expectations), or if I just really, really wanted for the story to continue and watch more
Over the top stupidity in some parts (i.e. end of train scene, after the final fight with Doc Oc among others)
Overly corny/dramatic in places

Overall, a very good and solid movie, but while it fulfilled my expectations, I don't think that it exceeded them, and I felt slightly disappointed in that regard. But I'm going to see it a second time and not try to be too involved with what I want and just the enjoy the movie for it is. And try not to think about how ugly Dunst is.

Also, this is probably a pretty good date movie.

Mr. Sleep
Aug 2, 2003

I went in with extraordinarily high expectations for this film. To my astonishment it did not disappoint me. The highlights of the film included the astonishing fight sequences, top-notch acting from Alfred Molina, and some genuinely touching emotional moments. This is indeed one of (if not THE) best superhero films I have ever seen, and by far the best movie of the summer.

5/5

NaughtyPenguin
Jun 11, 2002
I wish my movie theater had been playing the same movie everyone else seems to have seen.

Pro:
- The action scenes. It's been said before, and it's true - these are definately among the best action scenes I've ever seen. The only real detraction here is that both Spiderman and Dr. Octopus seem a little too indestructable. There's no indication that any part of Doc Ock other than his tentacle-arms is stronger than the average person. Spiderman must've been bitten by a radioactive Superman, because he takes some massive punishment. In the first film, he seemed about 80%-batman in the physical invulnerablity department. Here, he's more like a quarter-Hulk.

-Alfred Molina. Never heard of him before this, but he does a superb job as Octavius and Dr. Octopus. His delivery as both characters is perfect, and the plot should have utilized his talent more. He's the star here. He could have done a better Spiderman than Maguire. Maybe a better Mary Jane, though his tits are kinda a weird shape.

-Pizza delivery, even though the broom closet joke went on three times too long. Black-guy-who-Wayne-Brady-shot-on-the-Chappelle-show had probably the funniest line in the movie (should have added "Oh, snap!"), and it was a great intro to the Peter/Spiderman dichotomy.

-Black dude at the Bugle holding Spiderman's mask. I don't know why, but this seemed like the saddest part of the whole movie to me.

-Opening credits. Very original. Also, Kirsten Dunst's nipples. Also very likely original.



Cons

- Good to evil in Doc Ock. Norman Osborne became the Green Goblin in one scene; this was easy to believe, because Norm came off as a nasty son-of-a-bitch to begin with. Willem Dafoe looking like a serial killer helped, too.

The first time we meet Dr. Otto Octavius, however, he is a likeable guy - focused on his research, but nice enough to take Peter to meet his wife, have some tea, talk about love and poetry. Next thing we know, it's fusion machine showtime. Wife gets killed. Otto goes to the hospital, where the evil arms defend themselves by murdering about a dozen people. This is one of two transitory scenes, where we go from Octavius to Octopus. In about three minutes of screen time not counting the period while Otto is still unconcious, we go from poetry and tea, to bank-robbery and rampant murder, including throwing old ladies off buildings.

I really think a few of the pointless scenes (Peter's neighbor likes him, etc. - unless her name is Gwen Stacyopolis, I couldn't care less if she collects his toenail clippings from the garbage) could have been cut to make room for an extra scene or two showing the evolution from Octavius to Octopuss. His wife's death and the arms should've set him on the path to evil, not booted his rear end instantly there. I think it would've played a lot better if he'd done at least one thing only moderately evil at first... Say, robbing an armored car, while taking care not to hurt innocents; Spiderman and the cops could've stopped him, setting up the scene where's he's all for throwing bank doors around and using human shields.

- Jameson Jr., 0 to fiancee in sixty seconds. Maybe I passed out in a diabetic coma during a dialog scene, but it seems like the relationship came mostly out of nowhere. One mention of him, a short kissing scene, then they come down the stairs and become engaged. Could've used a short 'MJ meets Jameson Jr.' scene near the beginning. He gets very little screen time (and no post-wedding scene), so I seriously doubt we'll see him as a major player in the next movie. Maybe he'll bring the symbiot back from space. If they do go with that angle, I expect him to only be mentioned in passing, and the proto-Venom-whatever to make it's first appearance inside a high-tech lab, like all other origins so far.

- Believability in general. There's a given wiggle room for this in superhero movies, since the audience has to accept that these heroes have powers to begin with, but that doesn't give free license to spout something with little to no rationale. See:

-The mask and the train. Been said before.

-The train aftermath. Spiderman's a hero. Real people have a spark of heroism, some more so than others. But most people aren't saints. Someone was gonna take a picture, someone was gonna go see a police sketchperson, no matter what happened 20 seconds ago.

-The doctor scene. The entire time, I was expecting "...so, wanna go get a drink, sexy? I could help you with that little confidence problem."

-The eeeevill arms. Ok - so they have some AI that assists the user, and makes it possible to control the arms without having to spend years adapting to tentacle-like appendages. They come out of nowhere - that's ok, the audience was expecting them sooner, rather than later. I can accept that they are controlled via direct neural link. The metal spine looks nice and sinister as it attaches.

There! Right then! Did you catch it? That little blue thing at apex of the spine, that's the point where the believability starts getting thin. At this point, we can still say "Ok, the inhibitor keeps his higher brain functions from being affected by the arms' artificial intelligence. Hell, if that weren't there, he might have trouble speaking or using creative problem solving, since the feedback from a mind-machine interface could be disruptive otherwise.

That's not what the inhibitor does, however. In fact, the arms are INHERENTLY EVIL. That's correct. Remember that movie, Idle Hands? Me neither. Think Army of Darkness, then (I think. It might be Evil Dead II. Been a while). Bruce Cambell's hand turns evil. It wants to kill him, and cause mayhem in general. His hand becomes inherently evil, and he cuts it off with a chainsaw. This is ok. Hell, it's even funny, beacuse once Bruce grafts the chainsaw onto the stump, he's got a chainsaw for a hand. And that's quality.

Sadly, this doesn't translate quite as well to a serious action movie. The arms defend themselves from being cut off. This is still believable, I think; Otto's subconcious could have been controlling the arms - the dark part of him that surfaced as a result of killing his wife could have wanted to strike out, and a programmed AI protocol to restrict damage to the arms could have acted on that...and set up a wonderful little start to Otto's descent into villany. Instead, in the next scene, Otto hears a voice in his head, while the snakelike arms click and hiss like his very own personal Serpent. The AI, for some reason, wants to be that little devil on his shoulder, with massive cybernetic implants.

Maybe it would work if you believed that the influence of the arms was entirely his subconcious - sinister serpentine movement and all. But the concept of the inhibitor chip contradicts that, as does his very swift descent to evil. Maybe I'm just too nitpicky, but hey - I like my villains human.


- Huge lulls in the action. Or at least they feel huge, what with the often-sappy dialouge. The Notebook was playing on the next screen over, so some osmosis obviously occoured. For the most part, I sort of felt like the dialouge scenes were just filler because making the excellent CGI for action sequences was too expensive.

-The setup for the next movie. Harry has a hallucination, just like the ones his father had, Goblin laughter, evil mirror Norm, and all. It's cool (sort of) that Harry takes up the green, but this part felt SO contrived to me. No reason whatsoever for the similarity in hallucinations. Did Normon Osborne bite his son while he was sleeping? I just can't understand how out of all the ways to present the setup, this was the one the director chose.


All in all, this was still probably the best film so far in 2004 (Shrek 2 might contest that, depending on taste for pop culture comedy). I'm sorry this turned into an essay, but I was really expecting more action, better dialouge, and a plot that was crisp, without gimmicky shortcuts so that another repetitive Peter-is-sad scene could be crammed in. And Peter's neighbor should have been hotter.

3.5/5 Great action sequences. If you've seen it once, fast forward through the parts without action or Dr. Octopuss. Oh yeah, and the big web at the end was maybe the worst designed shot in the movie. And I feel really sad every time I think how great "I will not die a monster" would have been if Dr. Octopuss had been developed better. Grr, that's the worst part. How good it could have been if it was as much about the villain's struggle against his own demons as it was about Spiderman's self-image problems.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Awesome movie, CGI for the most part is great. Better than almost all of the comic book movies, however I still think X2 has the edge.

5/5.5

lstorm
Jul 3, 2004

SO DREAMY
It was pretty good. Hilarious because a lot of it was ridiculous. Bruce Campbell is also a huge plus too.

4/5

illumn8d
Jul 24, 2002

If you've ever had someone grab your nutsack in a tussle then yank on it, you'll know why I greased the boys up.
Loved the movie overall. I love the comic, and my favorite parts were always how Peter Parker struggles with hero role, which this movie really delves into. Only complaint; some CGI not as good as I hoped, but much better than the first one.

4.5

Capn Jobe
Jan 18, 2003

That's right. Here it is. But it's like you always have compared the sword, the making of the sword, with the making of the character. Cuz the stronger, the stronger it will get, right, the stronger the steel will get, with all that, and the same as with the character.
Soiled Meat
As seemingly the only person who didn't really like X-2 much (I thought the plot was really really lame), this definitely tops my list as best comic book movie I've seen, by a hefty margin.

Doc Ock was superbly executed on nearly every level. I do agree it was kinda wierd how fast the arms corrupted him. The way I see it is that a human brain does not have the capacity to control 4 more appendages (especially ones that complex) so it needs help. The AI in the arms takes his basic brain commands and works with them. The interaction with his own brain functions is pretty hefty, so he needs help keeping it under control (inhibitor chip). When it's destroyed, the sort of feral instincts of the arms (accomplish tasks without concern for collateral damage, protect existence) come through into his personality.

It's a bit weak, but I think it works.

Physically, Doc Ock was essentially perfect. I loved how he'd sometimes pantomime the arm movements with his own arms. Totally pointless, but really created an animated character.

The story with Pete was quite good, I thought. As everyone knows, Spider-Man was created to be a superhero that is just a regular person on the other side of the mask (and not a particularly fortunate one either). This movie tried very hard to play off that, and I think it succeeded. There were times when they tried to do too much, though cake scene seemed kinda forced. Those were small pitfalls though, overall it was very well presented.

Some other scenes felt kind of awkward the giant web was like eh, but again, small pitfalls.

And I was very pleased to see a lot more Sam Raimi trademarks in this movie, made it that much more enjoyable.

I recently stopped taking an anti-depressant medication, as and I'm still adjusting, things affect me a lot more emotionally. Normally subtle tear jerker movies like Big Fish get the water works running, and hero movies like this one keep me thinking about it for days. Man, all I could think of at work (the day after I saw this movie) was "I'd better call my other friends, I gotta see that movie again!" Probably just the lack of medication, but very few movies affect me like this one did.

5.5 all the way on this one.

Capn Jobe fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jul 3, 2004

mA
Jul 10, 2001
I am the ugly lover.
Great Movie. Best superhero flick of all time? Hardly.

4.5/5

ChickenMedium
Sep 2, 2001
Forum Veteran And Professor Emeritus of Condiment Studies
This movie is excellent. Everything else I wanted to say has been said already, so I'll keep this short: Alfred Molina stole the whole goddamned show. I highly recommend to anyone renting anything else he has ever been in. He is always superb.

Fun fact that I never knew until just recently: Molina was the double-crossing guide ("throw me the idol, I throw you the whip") from Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Life is Eat and Die
Apr 15, 2001

quote:

Horseface came out of the closet to say:

- I couldn't even tell the first one was by Sam Raimi, but his style is all over this one. Maybe it was just my imagination but I could swear there was an Evil Dead reference (chainsaw)

Oh, it was definitely there. The Doc Ock/Hospital scene stunk of Evil Dead, especially with the great absurd slapstick violence.

Great movie. A little uneven, pacing could have been better, but still very very good. J. Jonah Jameson was a riot.

4.5/5

bernie killed rosa
Feb 23, 2003
I really liked Spiderman 2, except for a few discrepancies:

Too many scenes were predictable, and there were too many conveniently placed events that turned Peter Parker in the right direction, such as Aunt May's cheesy speech on heroes. The science was kind of cheesy as well. ("I'LL DROWN THE FUSION REACTION IN A RIVER!")

Other than that, I really enjoyed the movie. A little more dramatic than the first, but I liked it for that. I half expected Peter to go :ssj: when he busted through the rocks near the end of the movie, which I found sort of humorous.

4/5

bernie killed rosa fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jul 4, 2004

waffle iron
Jan 16, 2004
An excellent superhero movie that captured the Spider-Man comic in a way the first didn't. Spider-Man was wise-cracking and Peter got to be light hearted in the wonderful "Rain Drops Keep Falling on My Head" montage. And with Doc Ock, they got back to the core of all the Spidey villians; that science in the wrong hands and used for the wrong reasons can do bad things.

4.5/5.0 for improving on a solid first movie and setting up the possibility of a couple more sequels.

Calenth
Jul 11, 2001



Found this thread through a search after seeing the film.

I cried like a baby for most of this movie and I'm man enough to admit it. Movies this good rekindle my faith in humanity. We can't be all bad if any of us can make something that good.

What more can I say? A world where the director of Evil Dead grows up into the director of this film, well, that's a good world.

elister
Dec 29, 2001

by Mayor Wilkins
Good movie.

5

SlipDizzy
May 12, 2004

I AM A SAD GAY TRANSVESTITE CLOWN. ALSO, I ENJOY SEX WITH FAT CHICKS THAT RESEMBLE SHREK. I AM HOM
Great film. I gave it a 5.0.

I think Spiderman 2 was actually better then the first. Doc Oct was played perfectly, I couldn't imagine anyone else being able to do such a good job. The action was top notch, as well as the suspense/drama scenes.

I'll be going to see it again, definetly.

LonelyKing
Feb 2, 2003

Fun Shoe
I thought the original movie was pretty dull and had terrible dialogue... but this one really surprised me. The action was great, the plot was pretty well done, and the comedy was perfect, as well. There was still a lot of really campy dialogue ("I've always been in your doorway" is the new "I hate sand, it's rough"), but it didn't really detract from the movie at all. I also though the whole you lose your power because you're unsure of yourself thing was kind of retarded, too, but eh. The CG in this movie was much, much better than before, too. In the first one, there was far too much of a difference between real stuff and CG stuff, but this time, they look a lot closer. Awesome.

5/5 would see again.

adorai
Nov 2, 2002

10/27/04 Never forget
Grimey Drawer
as far as the arms being inherently evil, i took it as they were created with one purpose, and they knew it since doc knew it, and they wanted to fulfill it.

then harry having the hallucination that were magically transmitted to him from the dead, perhaps he knew his father was the green goblin subconsiously and it all sort of clicked once he found out his best friend was spiderman, why else would his best friend kill his father, especially since they got along great.

Talyn Golic
Apr 1, 2004
A decent enough movie, better than the first(which I didn't care much for) but not the 'omg best movie ever!!!!!' that it's being made out to be.

3.5/5

schmitty9800
Feb 10, 2003

It was done pretty much perfectly. The scene in the hospital struck me as Evil Dead-like, with all the quick cuts. The CG overall was great, the only thing that struck me were the helicopters in the last scene in the movie.

I had the advantage of going with my sister, who lives in the Columbia area. She actually saw the phone booth scene being filmed :cool:. If you notice in the background, there are a lot of people just looking at the action being filmed. The sets were mostly open to spectators, who were shuffled to the background. Even more, she works at the planetarium. For your information: the banquet hall was a set.

Great movie, 4.5/5 easy. After seeing Bruce Campbell, I knew this wouldn't disappoint.

JadeFrog
Apr 17, 2001

by Lowtax
I really liked it. It has a very gritty comic style.

Only dislike was the Aunt's dialog. She is in the movie way too much and the scenes she is in seemed to take forever to complete.

4.5/5

MolluskGoneBad
Feb 25, 2002
I'll join the chorus of positive reviews here. I thought it was excellent start to finish. I thought the "slow" center to the film was hilarious, with a lot of subtle humor and comic book references. Doc Ock's approach to the coffee shop was also very Evil Dead, I think there were sprinkled references in a lot of places. I liked that Raimi let his trademarks fly loose a little more often in this than in the first one.

The perfect comic book movie. It brilliantly encapsulated the weird mix of melodrama, action, camp and "larger than life" modern mythology you get in superhero comics. The opening titles were also great, a nice bone to throw fans but a nice encapsulation that worked well in context.

I also liked that Molina's character just seemed weak-willed and easily swayed by the sigle-minded arms, and that caused him to do evil things incidentally. I was also impressed that during the train sequence he tossed random passengers off, and I liked the bit where he just kind of shoved aside the people who he had to "go through" to get to Spiderman after the train sequence. Just tools and nuisances in the way of his objectives

fizix
Jul 4, 2004
Run from me! I'm an '04!
For a movie that is 127 minutes long, they spent like 40 minutes recapping what happened in the last movie. gently caress them. I saw what happened in the last motherfucking movie. Oh, and Harry doesn't shut up about wanting to kill spiderman.

Besides that, the movie is overall pretty good but way to predictable.

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Adar
Jul 27, 2001
I'm shocked that I actually liked this film as much as I did, but it was great. Okay, parts of it were cliched as hell, but even the cliches still made me emotional for some reason.

The only reason I can't give this a 5: The ending blew. After leaving the theater, I turned to my friend and told him "This would've been a much, much better ending if, as Mary Jane walked up to the altar, Spidey broke through the window of the church, webbed her up and whisked her out as Jameson yelled at him. Oh well, can't have everything." That would've been cliched, too, but it would've been funny; this wasn't. Oh well, can't have everything.

4.5

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