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Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
For the past month or so I have driven away all my internet friends with my life-consuming obsession with this show. It is by far the most aware, thought-provoking anime I have ever seen, and I mean that sincerely, as if we were ignoring every other time that has been said on the internet. Legend of the Galactic Heroes perfectly balances realism, characters, and its message on the human condition and the fact that it was ever made is absolutely shocking.



:wal: + :911: = Bucock:negative:

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Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Most of the men have girlfriends too. The show is based around military people, the small proportion of women could simply be called realism.

Also Jessica, Hilda, Karin, and Frederica are all strong people. The fact that some of them act subserviently to certain people is relevant, but hell Frederica is far far less subservient to Yang than Kircheis was to Reinhard, so calling it a gender thing may be unfair to the show.


And do you really not see the point behind Katerose? Hint: who else is she important to plot-wise besides Julian? That's probably got something to do with her subplot!

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
I came here to kill you... but goddamn you're the prettiest man I have ever seen in my life.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Definitely watch the first Gaiden imo. Reinhard and Kircheis get to play around with a tank and it has the best production values I've seen so far (I'm up to Gaiden 4).

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
They could have always resorted to artificial reproduction.:science:

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Takes No Damage posted:

Oh sure, I didn't expect it to be legitimate flavor text, but why not use random Japanese? I can't think of any signs or anything but does the official language of the Empire use the Latin alphabet?

The Empire uses German and the FPA English, so yes?

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Takes No Damage posted:

The rest of the show is just as good as Overture, yes. Unless you're talking about Conquest, in which case, the rest of the show is just as good as Conquest as well. I can't think of any other show that has this many episodes and manages to be kickass the entire way through. Nothing like 'oh the second half of season 3 sucks but then it gets good again' stuff here, just consistent political/military badassery for all 55 hours. Also I'm really hoping SamusX meant to type 'weeks' and not 'days' otherwise :stare:

It's less than 40 hours, what are ya, a wussy? Wussy boy gonna cry for his momma, ask her if he can have 3 days to watch the best show?:clint:

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
In a way it would be pretty awful if it got licensed just because the translation would almost certainly be worse than Central Anime's, I mean they got that dialogue spot on. Also it wouldn't be free anymore and it's super long.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Nephilm posted:

Rationalizing it over a context that really make no sense. I'll take Crest of the Stars any day.

Wow, Star Trek and Star Wars must be like, unwatchable to you.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Nephilm posted:

Extremely tough armor that axes and crossbows go right throw? ...okay.

I guess if that was the epitome of body armor then I can understand why they never saw the need to develop needlers.

It's built to reflect concentrated light off, not crossbow bolts. Also some plate mail was perfectly capable of stopping bullets and archers still wiped them out.

As for axes being less believable than feudal space elves, that's inscrutable double standards.

Nephilm posted:

Ships flying through pseudo-2D hyperspace in bubbles of realspace that merge into each other at close range. Works for me. The fact that they still have manned fighter-craft is kind of silly but at least they make a point of only genetically engineered posthumans being able to withstand the Gs.

This is so much more convoluted and harder to believe than the "let's see you try to coordinate 50 million people" thing going on in LoGH I can't believe you're actually bringing it up.

Rakugoon fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Feb 18, 2012

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
With Yang and Kircheis' necklace attacks it's at least implied that they both used holes that any decent commander would have been guarding anyway. Like they basically win by having knowledge of the other side having left themselves wide open.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
To be fair, even the genetically engineered superhuman genius Khan Noonien Singh hadn't figured that trick out.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Well in real life Napoleon was once facing down an entire army as a firing squad and the guy closest to him just plain fainted, the idea of being forever known as the guy that killed a historic figure isn't pleasant if your last name isn't Oswald.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffeOvwBYkf4

This actually happened.

Rakugoon fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Mar 1, 2012

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Well with the terraists it's obvious that they're just broken people anyway. And with Schenkopp the freakout had nothing to do with what the killer himself had just done so much as the poo poo he saw out of his victim.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Chas McGill posted:

Mm. Of course a great deal of fiction is escapist, but I'm still having trouble imagining why a grown up would fantasise or relate to lollipop-headed, shrieking five year olds running around and shooting magic out of their bloated eyes.

There is no pretty answer to this. (hint: :pedo: + :anime:)

Anime viewer demographics are really weird and (in my opinion) damning. In cases about little girls like Madoka or generic fanservice shows, it'll be at least half creepy 30-something dudes. Mech shows most people would assume are targeting teenage boys or younger are mostly watched by women (presumably because they're not about 14 year old girls).

Basically the industry has a good deal of self examination to do.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

linall posted:

Well yeah, but he just finished the series. Most people tend towards hyperbole immediately after watching a show even if you don't. There isn't really a whole lot of call for the smug condescension.

Especially since it really is one of the best shows ever made.:colbert:

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Chas McGill posted:


Crest of the Stars just didn't look good to me, so I stopped watching it.

Despite Nephilm apparently liking it, Crest and Banner are quite good and get consistently better as they go, both content and art wise. GIS Banner III if you want to see how drastically the art style changes.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
The good thing about the prequels is that even though they're Reinhard centric, Kircheis does all the footwork. Also Schenkopp is basically the main character in at least one of them.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Furthermore everyone does notice the elephant in the room, CONSTANTLY. Oberstein notices it, Reinhard notices it, Yang notices it, Mittermeyer notices it, they all do. And when are the massive deaths treated as trivial? The failed Alliance invasion less than a quarter of the way into the show alone is treated as goddamned catastrophic. Sure sometimes commanders/politicians act like nobody dies under them, but that is sort of truth in television/the nature of warfare.

Did you only watch the fights or something? Because the goddamned nature of war/society/history, all that, is only what EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE SHOW.


Jesus.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Holy poo poo and a massive diss on the regular men and women that died in WWI out of nowhere. You are aware that most of the poor fucks that died in the trenches are just as intelligent as you or me, right? They had dreams and aspirations too. And yes massive casualties take a toll on the system, that's what industrial warfare is! Stalingrad wasn't a walk in the park either, and the Soviet army didn't fall apart. This idea that the scale of the deaths in LoGH makes it less reaslistic somehow is really bizarre, especially since previous deaths are a huge driving factor of the story.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

DamnGlitch posted:

You are a piece of human excrement. Go read "All Is Quiet On The Western Front" and try not to be such an ignorant monster.

gently caress this go join the army and never post again

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
"Was" brutal. Industrial warfare sure was awful, good thing large scale wars never happen anymore. Thank God.

Soldiers in World War II did all sorts of training. Wars have always been unsustainable and inefficient-- senseless bloodbaths that cost huge amounts of time and money are just exactly what they are. And guess what? The last hundred years of history have more people dying in wars than the rest of history combined so YES I CAN TOTALLY SEE IT HAPPENING. IT HAPPENS. IT'S AWFUL. And it's not just the two world wars either, poo poo has happened all the time in the 20th and 21st century and it's been getting progressively worse, not better.

Rakugoon fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Apr 23, 2012

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Well first the idea that casualties "shifted" to non-combatants is blatantly wrong, situations where two armies are relatively equally matched are just less common.

Second, if you don't want to triviliaze people from less developed (and I hate using even that term) societies, don't call them pissants. That is literally a term that means someone is worthless.

Third, modern warfare can be extremely messy on the battlefield. Look at the Ethiopian-Eritrean War. That wasn't a bunch of savages armed with machetes, it was human beings in nations that spend the majority of their money on modern weapons.

Fourth, modern societies are just as warlike as they've ever been. The United States alone has been constantly fighting since WWII, with Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and more killing soldiers and destroying the economy--and I don't recall our democracy ever teetering over the brink. Hell if we had some menacing foreign power like the Sovie--I mean, the Empire-- to justify our bloodshed I suspect keeping the populace under control would be even easier.

Basically your implication that modern societies are any more peaceful than they ever were before is just completely and utterly wrong, to the point of being offensive.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

linall posted:

Pretty sure it's not an esoteric question, just a everyone should be used up by now thing. Actually, I kind of felt this throughout the series as well. The Alliance lost so much at Amlitzer(?) that every time they scraped together a fleet to throw against the newest Reinhard offensive (Or themselves) it kind of bugged me.

Imagine if D-Day had failed. Now remember that most of the Allies' troops weren't near there.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
HAHA WHY YES I AM THAT MUCH OF A DOUCHEBAG.

Everyone else being satisfied with something is just such a heavy cross for you to bear.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Judging by the history episode focused on Kaisers Past I kind of think there was no end of scandal to be exploiting the monarchy by, if you could get away with it.

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
First they elect an unmarried socialist and now this. Why must America suffer while the French enter a Golden Age.:negative:

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
So is it subs-only or does it have that badass French dub I've seen on the youtubes?

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

duck monster posted:

The later answer would only be an unbearable taunt. :smith:

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Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Now that is going to be amazing. I expect like 5 times as much music, and like 20 times the amount of fabulous costumes.

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