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Weinertron
Jan 17, 2009


GreatGreen posted:

I don't have that option in the CCC. I got the latest drivers and version of the CCC from the official ATI website. Do you think I'd have better luck with an earlier version?

They do seem to have removed that option... that sucks. It has been there before.

If you are unable to get anything else to work, you could remove the pins that transmit EDID information from your DVI-> VGA adapter:


This should be a last-ditch resort, though. Your PC will have no idea what type of monitor is attached and you will be free to set whatever resolution you want. Huge CRTs connecting via VGA are usually why people do this. In case it's not clear, you should ONLY do this to the DVI-VGA adapter, not your GPU's output or your monitor's cable.

Edit: Needle-nose pliers work well. I would google around for ways to force resolution first, but I guarantee this will work.

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Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

Did you try getting a driver for the monitor and installing it in Windows?

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007

THIS IS HOW YOU REMIND ME OF WHAT I REALLY AM

Mark Larson posted:

Did you try getting a driver for the monitor and installing it in Windows?

Yep. I downloaded the latest official Sony FW900 drivers (from something like 2004), but Windows 7 doesn't like them.

korgy
Sep 16, 2006



Weinertron posted:

DX11 is worthless, and the 4890s are a great value. The 5770 is in fact slower than the 4870, let alone the 4890. By the time DX11 starts being used for more than the most superficial of effects, the 5770 would be far to slow to run those games at max details anyway.

DX10 has been here for 3 years, and I haven't seen a single game but Shattered Horizon that really rewarded me for having DX10. Maybe Company of Heroes.

Thanks for the information. I see that the 4890 is a small upgrade over 4870 but it looks worth it. I am looking at newegg and I see there is the Vapor-x model which is more expensive but apparently with a quieter fan? Is that the only advantage? Here are the ones I am looking at.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2-852-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2-848-_-Product

Weinertron
Jan 17, 2009


korgy posted:

Thanks for the information. I see that the 4890 is a small upgrade over 4870 but it looks worth it. I am looking at newegg and I see there is the Vapor-x model which is more expensive but apparently with a quieter fan? Is that the only advantage? Here are the ones I am looking at.

The Vapor-X is a very nice fan design, whether it is worth $10 more is up to you. It will be quieter and able to overclock higher if you turn the fan up. A stock 4890 is plenty of power for 1920x1200 anyway.

Deceptor101
Jul 7, 2007


This really is a hardware question, although not the typical kind I guess. What do I need to ship a computer? Can I just box up the case and package it well and ship it out? I'm not really worried about much, but what about the HD being tossed around and the graphics card? When installed can they take that abuse? I don't really have the option of taking out parts and sending them separately, as the people I'm shipping it to would have no idea how to install them. Thanks!

korgy
Sep 16, 2006



Weinertron posted:

The Vapor-X is a very nice fan design, whether it is worth $10 more is up to you. It will be quieter and able to overclock higher if you turn the fan up. A stock 4890 is plenty of power for 1920x1200 anyway.

Yeah after reading reviews of both I decided on the Vapor-X 4890. The cooling looks a lot better than the stock and its worth the extra money. $194 isn't bad for one of the better cards on the market.

Dolphin Fetus
May 31, 2006

We must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig. Cow after cow. Village after village. Army after army.

Oh boy, more heating questions: I'm aware 45-55c for an E8500 is hot, but during loads it stays at about 55-60c. I haven't seen it shot up higher than that range. I'll probably invest in better cooling later on, I'm not an OCER, but I don't want to kill my cpu. Are those temps way too hot?

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007



Deceptor101 posted:

This really is a hardware question, although not the typical kind I guess. What do I need to ship a computer? Can I just box up the case and package it well and ship it out? I'm not really worried about much, but what about the HD being tossed around and the graphics card? When installed can they take that abuse? I don't really have the option of taking out parts and sending them separately, as the people I'm shipping it to would have no idea how to install them. Thanks!
As long as it's packed well it should be fine.

The components are all solidly attached to the motherboard and case and aren't going to cause any problems. HDDs are much less delicate when they're powered down. About the only thing you'd need to ship separately would be a very large aftermarket heatsink.


Dolphin Fetus posted:

Oh boy, more heating questions: I'm aware 45-55c for an E8500 is hot, but during loads it stays at about 55-60c. I haven't seen it shot up higher than that range. I'll probably invest in better cooling later on, I'm not an OCER, but I don't want to kill my cpu. Are those temps way too hot?
The max is 72C. 60 isn't optimal but it's not a big deal. The CPU will still outlive its usefulness.

If you've had it a while, give the HSF a clean.

mobn
May 23, 2005

by Ozmaugh


I have an 8800gt and like all modern video cards it has two DVI outputs and one multipurpose output. I have this third output running component video to my HDTV. Currently I have to go into the nVidia control panel to switch between 2 monitors and one monitor and a HDTV. This is because, of course, nVidia doesn't officially support 3 displays from one card.

What I'm wondering is if there's any kind of hack or workaround so that I can have all three connected at once. Even just being able to have the HDTV mirror my primary display would be fine, as I just use it to watch movies.

Dolphin Fetus
May 31, 2006

We must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig. Cow after cow. Village after village. Army after army.

This is more software related I guess, but its relevant to my recent posts: I installed my new 4890 no problem, found the appropriate drivers and booted up Dragon Age (this happens with WoW too). I play for a few minutes and
my comp freezes and goes into a BSOD. Prior to installing my new card I made sure to uninstall my nvidia drivers from the old 9800 but my motherboard is a P5N-D so that means I have onboard graphics probably interfering with my
radeon card right? Anyways, I've tried uninstalling my radeon card's driver so I could get my computer to pick up the onboard graphics adaptor but no luck. I'm using Windows 7 too if that's relevant. The card itself is in pretty well and I don't think there are any problems with my installation. I googled the problem and found a topic on another forum that's identical to my issues except its sound card related..so I'm pretty sure its linked to my graphics card.

Any advice or help?

Edit- Apparently my p5n-d doesn't have onboard graphics, weird. Anyone, I just installed the card and I get the BSODs after playing games for several minutes.

Dolphin Fetus fucked around with this message at Dec 15, 2009 around 22:36

Srebrenica Surprise
Aug 23, 2008

"L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce."


^^^ driver cleaner, reinstall ATI drivers, if you still get BSODs post what they say ^^^

mobn posted:

I have an 8800gt and like all modern video cards it has two DVI outputs and one multipurpose output. I have this third output running component video to my HDTV. Currently I have to go into the nVidia control panel to switch between 2 monitors and one monitor and a HDTV. This is because, of course, nVidia doesn't officially support 3 displays from one card.

What I'm wondering is if there's any kind of hack or workaround so that I can have all three connected at once. Even just being able to have the HDTV mirror my primary display would be fine, as I just use it to watch movies.

This is not an nVidia thing it is a fundamental limitation of the chipset and is the case on every card right now except the 5xxx with a DP monitor.

wnatw
Jan 28, 2008


In either this or the old building/upgrading/parts thread, someone had recommended that someone else remove their noisy fans and lube up the motor brushings... my VGA cooler is starting to go north of silent, can whoever mentioned this please elaborate? Substance to use, other tips, etc...

korgy
Sep 16, 2006



I got my Sapphire Vapor-X 4890 in yesterday and it is amazing! Thanks for the suggestions! Everything runs cool and fast.

Dasho
Aug 22, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I have a question about networking actually. Is there a way I could get multiple wireless routers to talk to each other as in, having 1 router hooked up with a cable modem and just a wireless daisy chain from there.

The model would be a SMC Barricade N. I've tried googling it but, I can't find much about the subject. Even a nudge in the right direction would be great for me. Thanks!

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance

Has anyone with a eVGA 55nm GTX260 and a Antec Sonata III case tried to put one of those Scythe slim(12mm thick) 120mm case fans between the video card and the hard drive chassis and had it fit? I measured it and looks like it would fit but I'm not sure.

This is the fan I'm referring too; this is the 1600RPM model:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16835185138

spasticColon fucked around with this message at Dec 18, 2009 around 01:46

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

Mah spoon is too big!


Quick question from somone who knows jack about computer fans and how they work.

My case is dusty. If I blast the insides with a leaf blower, will the air forcing the fans to spin backwards at an alarming rate damage my cooling fans/graphics card?

I figured I'd ask before I tried.

Dasho
Aug 22, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Breetai posted:

Quick question from somone who knows jack about computer fans and how they work.

My case is dusty. If I blast the insides with a leaf blower, will the air forcing the fans to spin backwards at an alarming rate damage my cooling fans/graphics card?

I figured I'd ask before I tried.

I haven't personally used a leaf blower but, I have used a dyson vacuum with no issues if it's any consolation.

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance

Breetai posted:

Quick question from somone who knows jack about computer fans and how they work.

My case is dusty. If I blast the insides with a leaf blower, will the air forcing the fans to spin backwards at an alarming rate damage my cooling fans/graphics card?

I figured I'd ask before I tried.

I use a compressed air gun to blow out the dust in my case so I cannot see why it would be a problem. If you are blowing air directly at a fan you might want to hold the fan in place somehow with something to keep it from spinning (I use a straight piece of a coat-hanger) or with certain video card fans hold onto the center of the fan so it doesn't spin up. Also be sure to do it outside unless you want a dust cloud all over the room.

Sir Nigel
Jun 29, 2006



You won't hurt the fans by allowing them to spin. The bearing (or sleeve or whatever type of fan it is) won't be damaged by any spin RPM you can make it get to with a leafblower/canned air/vacuum etc... You'd have to get it up to like 10k RPM before it would possibly hurt the fan/housing. The fans on video cards like the 4890 for instance can power themselves up to ~3k-5k RPMs when in use so you're fine.

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

Mah spoon is too big!


sweet. thanks!

Modern Pragmatist
Aug 20, 2008


Dasho posted:

I have a question about networking actually. Is there a way I could get multiple wireless routers to talk to each other as in, having 1 router hooked up with a cable modem and just a wireless daisy chain from there.

The model would be a SMC Barricade N. I've tried googling it but, I can't find much about the subject. Even a nudge in the right direction would be great for me. Thanks!

Yeah you can do this.

Your best bet would be to flash new firmware to the device (DD-WRT or Tomato) which gives you a lot more control. You can then set the router (the one not hooked to the cable modem) to function as a repeater which makes it so that it can connect to the initial router as a wireless client and then rebroadcast. As far as the initial modem is concerned, you are just connecting another computer.

Alternatively you could set it up as a bridge or repeater bridge allowing all computers to be on the same subnet.

Things to google: repeater, bridge, dd-wrt, tomato firmware

Also, you could try posting in this thread for more details.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

I dunno if air wouldn't make them spin faster than normal - I dust out my fans form time to time and if you don't stop them from spinning then they can ramp up to levels that make a humourous 'whizzing' noise. Since you don't normally hear a noise like that even at 100% I'd guess they were being overdriven?

Anyway, getting dust off the blades themselves only works if you hold the fan still so better to do that, in my opinion.

Weinertron
Jan 17, 2009


On a very old DFI motherboard, the small fan on the northbridge has died. Do I need to get some airflow onto that tiny heatsink before something fails? Or should the fact that this poor abused system has already gone without this fan spinning for a year show that the fan wasn't needed anyway?

This is a friend's system that I just found out has been without an exhaust fan at all for god knows how long. He was asking me why the CPU fan was so loud. The poor CPU fan was the only fan in the entire case. No airflow at all.

fallenturtle
Feb 28, 2003
paintedblue.net

fallenturtle posted:

My dumb question: I want to be able to capture and save over-the-air HD broadcasts on to my PC. My goal is to be able to watch them in 720p with 5.1 audio...

Is there a better thread for my question?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003




fallenturtle posted:

Is there a better thread for my question?
Probably the HTPC megathread in The A/V Arena.

Vork!Vork!Vork!
Apr 1, 2008

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I am thinking of grabbing a Asus VH198T monitor from newegg to replace a 17'' CRT. Here is a link to it:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16824236072
Is this a solid monitor? I will be surfing the web, watching some movies, and maybe a little of BF2 with it.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any.


My relatively new WD Blue 640gb drive just shat itself for no evident reason.

I feel it spin, but it's not existing in the BIOS. I've tried a few different cables and sata ports.

Since I've got nothing else to try, should I just pop off the board and check for broken solder welds, or just suck up the data loss and get a refund?

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


Do mice count as hardware? Because my MX518 died ( ) and I'm looking for a replacement through Newegg and they're sold out of them right now. Any comparable mice in the $40-50 range?

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006
CRYBABY FUCK


Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Do mice count as hardware? Because my MX518 died ( ) and I'm looking for a replacement through Newegg and they're sold out of them right now. Any comparable mice in the $40-50 range?
Is it still under warranty? Logitech's got a great reputation for warranty service, and although I think they've discontinued the "oh, it's broken? We'll take your word for it, new mouse is on the way, just toss the old one" program thanks to jackasses exploiting it, they're still one of the best companies in the business to deal with for RMA stuff.

If you do want to buy a new mouse, there's the "should I buy an expensive mouse" thread that's got some decent mousechat going on. Ultimately, though, the only way to figure out whether something fits your hand well is to hold it for a while. You might want to stop by a local consumer electronics store.

Bagarthach
Oct 1, 2004

Apathy beat my creativity at this point, I really just wanted the pretty picture.

SuperSlant6 posted:

I am thinking of grabbing a Asus VH198T monitor from newegg to replace a 17'' CRT. Here is a link to it:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16824236072
Is this a solid monitor? I will be surfing the web, watching some movies, and maybe a little of BF2 with it.

For more you can get to 23" with this.

I haven't seen the Asus so I can't compare, but since it's at Best Buy you can go see it first-hand yourself.

Edit: here's the Acer on Newegg (discontinued, but you can compare specs and ratings.)

Bagarthach fucked around with this message at Dec 21, 2009 around 15:45

krushgroove
Oct 22, 2007

WOO! Yeah!
We ROCK!


Is it at all common for DSL modem/routers to need to be rebooted every 1-2 weeks? I have to do this whenever my desktop can't connect. It's annoying but I know what to do when it does happen. If it matters/helps, I'm in the UK, it's a Be Broadband modem. The service/speed/price is fantastic, this is the only glitch.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Hiding in my
Internet Happy Box

krushgroove posted:

Is it at all common for DSL modem/routers to need to be rebooted every 1-2 weeks? I have to do this whenever my desktop can't connect. It's annoying but I know what to do when it does happen. If it matters/helps, I'm in the UK, it's a Be Broadband modem. The service/speed/price is fantastic, this is the only glitch.

Yes, very common as your provider pushes software updates, however it should be rebooting itself rather than depending on you to do it. My cable modem reboots every Sunday morning at 3am. You should be able to run the onboard diagnostics software to determine whether the issue is related to the updates.

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008



Can an overheated CPU cause problems with RAM?

I got some new RAM and keep getting crashes even though memtest checks out. I noticed that my core temps get quite high; prime95 testing caused cpu to rise to 80+ degrees so my PC shut off. My new RAM requires a higher voltage so could that be the cause of the crash? I'm going to get a better heatsink/fan and some thermal paste anyway, but I'm hoping it'll solve the RAM issue.

Srebrenica Surprise
Aug 23, 2008

"L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce."


No, unless your CPU overclock has a ridiculously high FSB. The voltage difference is probably part of it but I think you should reseat your heatsink.

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008



I'm not overclocking, so FSB won't be affecting it. Definitely going to get a new heatsink anyway, even after cleaning out the inside of my PC it's still pretty hot at full load.

I am wondering if I have some RAM compatibility issue though, I've heard the Asus P5N32-E SLIs don't like certain sticks, although mine are OCZ so would be surprising.

Anyway going off on a tangent, thanks for the info.

Plan B
Oct 5, 2002

KITTEN!

Is there a keyboard that meets the following requirements?

-Wireless
-Rechargeable
-Low-profile keys
-Suitable for gaming, meaning no lag and supporting multiple keypresses

I'm a fan of Logitech, but the K340 has the multiple keypress issue, and the diNovo Edge has a keypress delay. Are there any other options?

krushgroove
Oct 22, 2007

WOO! Yeah!
We ROCK!


Goober Peas posted:

Yes, very common as your provider pushes software updates, however it should be rebooting itself rather than depending on you to do it. My cable modem reboots every Sunday morning at 3am. You should be able to run the onboard diagnostics software to determine whether the issue is related to the updates.

Thanks, I think I'll have to call tech support and see when they do this, while I was playing L4D2 offline last night I lost the online connection again, so that's 2 disconnects/reboots in 2 days, which is pretty much unacceptable.

CrackAttack
Feb 15, 2007
Crack Kills.

I need a recommendation on a cooler for my evga GeForce 9800GT.

Running newer games maxed out is giving me temps of 85c(MW2) - 100c(borderlands) and that is a little hotter then im happy with, even though most people say the card runs hot.

Anything $50 or less would be fine, noise level isn't to much of an issue. I'm more concerned about bringing the temps down as much as possible, actively or passively.

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Sir Nigel
Jun 29, 2006



CrackAttack posted:

I need a recommendation on a cooler for my evga GeForce 9800GT.

Running newer games maxed out is giving me temps of 85c(MW2) - 100c(borderlands) and that is a little hotter then im happy with, even though most people say the card runs hot.

Anything $50 or less would be fine, noise level isn't to much of an issue. I'm more concerned about bringing the temps down as much as possible, actively or passively.

Are any other temps in your system hot? Has it ever shut down on you? Have you removed the card and use a thing of Canned Air to clear out the dust in the heatsink?






Krush, if you have DSL (especially if you're in the Eastern US where we just had 2ft of snow), it could just be water messing up your connection. I know when we used to have DSL that when it would rain really heavy/a lot of snow the modem would have to be reset once or twice a day. I'm assuming from the water getting to where the runs are in the ground and causing noise/interference in the signal.

Sir Nigel fucked around with this message at Dec 22, 2009 around 17:36

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