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Hello Pity posted:I think you're selling yourself fine with it. That's a very gooing point, I'll tidy up the education bit tonight for future mail outs. I want to keep the name of my school in as the Head Master recently got a Knighthood and the school is a beacon school for IT, sciecen and is genenrally cone of the bests states going. quote:
Yep I agree and will fix all those. quote:I'm not sold on the "personal qualities" section. Most of it in there seems to be irrelevant or things that should be a given based on your work history. I might remove that personal qualities bit. I put it in during 2005 
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I would just like to say that, after updating my resume based on what I read on this thread and posting it on Monster.com, I had a company email me asking me to fill out an application and send them an official copy of my resume, which of course I promptly did and am now staring anxiously at the phone waiting for it to ring. It's taking every ounce of willpower I have not to call them NOW RIGHT NOW to see if they're interested. It's only been like half a day so I doubt they've had a chance to fully go over it, so I'm going to wait until tomorrow.  Wish me luck!
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Hello Pity posted:That's a really good graduate resume. Nice and solid, enough genuine stuff in there to really fill the page with little or no padding. Thanks for the input! I went to the career center about a hundred times, and my sister is in HR, so I lucked out there. I suppose I AM trying to give away too much information in the cover letter. I hate the idea of not saying enough, though. Other than quantitaive figures and "Oh by the way, I taught myself this" I don't know what else to put in the cover letter. Obviously everyone thinks they're qualified for the position, so it's a moot point to just rehash the job description. And you're right, I definitely want to spin the CS/English thing as hard as I can. SmokerKat posted:I would just like to say that, after updating my resume based on what I read on this thread and posting it on Monster.com, I had a company email me asking me to fill out an application and send them an official copy of my resume, which of course I promptly did and am now staring anxiously at the phone waiting for it to ring. It's taking every ounce of willpower I have not to call them NOW RIGHT NOW to see if they're interested. It's only been like half a day so I doubt they've had a chance to fully go over it, so I'm going to wait until tomorrow. Congrats buddy. But don't forget that an expression of interest != immediate job/interview prospect. To take your mind off of OH GOD WHY WON'T THEY CALL, I suggest doing what I do: go back and keep looking for more jobs. Until the moment you show up on day one, you must keep searching! Sabacc fucked around with this message at Aug 15, 2006 around 17:50 |
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Hand Row posted:How does one handle salary negotiations? I am finishing up school and in my field there's a lot of local government jobs that like to undercut if possible. Most places either want me to send in my resume with salary expectations or I get asked on a response from them. I have just been responding with "depends on exactly I would be doing" in fancier words. How should I respond and then when and how should I handle the real negotiations if it gets serious? The best way to gain advantage in any negotiation is to be able to walk away from it. Put yourself in that mindset, and have other options. Ask for what you want and think is fair, be honest but don't tell them everything, don't demand what you want, if they simply can't do it then indicate you're flexible if they are. Someone else gave me some decent advice, if I can find it later I'll post.
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Thanks for the advice. I am also wondering what exactly the ettiquete is for this. Do I wait for them to bring up the salary discussion? Is it like bargaining for something and I want to say something higher and then bargain to the middle ground or should I just say exactly the salary I want.
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Hey guys, great thread so far. It's already been a great help.
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Alright...this is still in .txt format as it's easier to just keep it like that and THEN format/save as whatever is preferred and stuff. http://www.box.net/public/zok704scjq Because i really only have 1 job under my belt i kind of padded it but can't really tell if it's overboard. Some of the points also sound wrong to me but i can't for the life of me figure out how they could be better. If nobody corrects ones i'm not comfortable with i'll just call myself a psycho and consider them good. BTW as i said...i'm submitting this to a friend who is passing it on to his boss. Friend has been told to tell boss i'm not particular about what position (of like 10 openings) i'd just like to branch into web programming and/or network administration where i can put my brain to use and theres no jobs available at my current place for that type of thing.
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Hand Row posted:Thanks for the advice. I am also wondering what exactly the ettiquete is for this. Do I wait for them to bring up the salary discussion? Is it like bargaining for something and I want to say something higher and then bargain to the middle ground or should I just say exactly the salary I want. Unless they specifically ask what you're looking for, let the other side bring up salary (and even when they ask what you want you're letting them bring it up). If you have a good idea what other people are getting you can aim for the high end of that. However, ultimately all salary negotiations are based on a) skill set and b) supply and demand for those skills. Here's what someone posted in response to me a while back: rhyme posted:Salary negotiation is an art but you had better have a leg to stand on. I cant stand people with 1 year of experience at an internet startup expecting 4 weeks vacation, paid 401k, and a $90,000 base with a $20,000 signing bonus. Get over man, those days are over.
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I sent my resume and cover letter to a company this morning on Careerbuilder, and after a couple of hours I received a call from them. Letting me know, that they sent an e-mail (which had more information about the company and position), and basically the hiring manager said I should call him back soon if I was really interested. I am going to call back tomorrow morning to let him know that I am interested. But the hiring manager works at the company's headquarters in another state, either a) He is going to interview over the telephone b) Refer me to another hiring manager closer to where I live Or c) Give me the job, no questions asked (doubtful but still a possibility  )What is the difference between a face-to-face interview and a telephone interview (besides the medium in which we communicate); do the questions vary a lot? What else should I mention when I call the hiring manager? Should I say the same poo poo I said on my resume/cover letter or something new? I don’t want this to happen  Me: I am interested XYZ position Him: That’s nice to hear Me: ……  ......... Him: …..Me:  Tips for recent graduates entering sales?
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GD posted:What is the difference between a face-to-face interview and a telephone interview (besides the medium in which we communicate); do the questions vary a lot? Phone interviews are, in my opinion, the worst. Some basic stuff: if you're going to be on a cell phone, make sure the battery is charged and you get a kickass reception. They typically run from 20 - 40 minutes. And, obviously, talk somewhere where there is NO OTHER NOISE. If you're doing the cell phone thing, I suggest in the car, with the windows up. The questions, otherwise are, I think, quite different from a face-to-face. The only thing they have in common is "so tell me about --" at which point you shouldn't repeat your resume, because s/he's going to have it right in front of her/him. If the interviewer says "tell me about your work at X" you fill in the details like "It was an unpaid internship, where I managed this and that." Now, where the questions differ occurs if you're going for a more technical interview (this is for other people, I guess). Being asked to solve technical / coding problems over the phone is not unheard of. A friend of mine who applied to Amazon, for example, had to give code to reverse a linked list -- over the phone. That is, of course, an extreme case. But, as with all interview questions, it's more how you answer than what you answer. I've been asked simple stuff before, like operators in STL, or differences between classes and objects. I don't know if it's recommended, but I like keeping the person talking on the other end, too. I've found people divulge a lot more information about their attitude toward the company (and, perhaps, you) because of the anonymity. That's just my observation, though.
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Quite a lot of jobs I apply for want application forms only and state they don't want a CV. Should I still send a cover letter? Also, some positions want completed forms emailed back to them, rather than via post. Occasionally there is the post option, but it's about 50/50. If I'm just emailing returned forms, should I attach my CV / write a cover email - or just always take the posted form route if possible? (If they specifically say not to send a CV though, I'm not going to do so!) I'm basically worried about actually standing out when all they ask for is an emailed application form that will look identical to however many others they're getting. I think it's easier to impress someone with a tangible document than a Word document - yes, no? 
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Fallon posted:Quite a lot of jobs I apply for want application forms only and state they don't want a CV. Should I still send a cover letter? You think standing out because you ignored the rules is a good thing? Call it a hunch but i would bet if they say "Do it like THIS" and you do it another way it gets trashed the second they see it. What kind of jobs are you applying for that only want a form and no CV? If it's some retail job or restaurant job then no cover letter. Basically the closer it is to a nice typical office job the less weird it would be to submit a cover letter. This is the same for the email situation.
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No, quite the opposite, hence my question - how do I stand out without doing the opposite of what they ask? I can't figure out a way it's possible to stand out in a good way when you're just emailing a standard form back to them. They're typically government / local authority or educational institution positions I'm applying for that request things this way, so yes they're somewhat typical office jobs. Instead of a CV they usually have a page on their form where you can detail your relevant skills etc., but it all goes onto one form that everyone else will have the same copy of.
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Fallon posted:Quite a lot of jobs I apply for want application forms only and state they don't want a CV. Should I still send a cover letter? You can. However all the information they want will be on the form so it will most likely just be binned. Fallon posted:I'm basically worried about actually standing out when all they ask for is an emailed application form that will look identical to however many others they're getting. The thing is, for the most part, all CVs look pretty much identical as well. The same rules apply for forms. If you fill it out neatly, follow the instructions and check spelling and grammar you will already stand out. That's about as much standing out as you can do on a CV, it's no different on a form. Organisations like these (with large dedicated HR departments) use the forms for a few reasons. One of them is that they tend to get a lot of applications and it weeds out people who don't want the job enough to be bothered filling out a form (which obviously takes more time and effort than printing off another copy of your CV). There's no harm in making your CV look as nice as possible (and nice in this context tends to mean readable), but beyond getting above a certain standard (and the bar is set pretty low here) having a CV that stands out isn't going to help get you a job or interview in most situations. Once it's of a certain level it's only the content that matters. Beyond that it's only the content that I'm specifically interested in for the position that matters. I hate filling out the forms, but if you're serious about a job I tend to think they work in your favour because you're only going up against the other people who are serious about the job. You're not competing with all the people who would have applied just for the hell of it on a CV based position, one or more of whom might have taken your interview position!
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GD posted:Tips for recent graduates entering sales? Professional sales can be extremely rewarded but it can also make you lose all faith in humanity. As far as getting in the door, they want to see confidence, fearlessness and aggression. Of course you tailor that to whatever you're selling. If it's a job with a lot of prospecting, they want to know you'll talk to anyone at anytime and would stand up and address Congress without a second thought. If it's a consultative sell, they want to know that you're a quick learner and not afraid to give presentations. The most important thing about a sales oriented resumes is numbers. Quantify everything. How many calls you made, how many customers you saw, how much cash you took in everyday, etc. The key to a sales interview is close them. If you walk out without asking for something they're gonna think "what is this guy going to do when he's in front of customers?" One of my questions is always "what is the next step in the process" then my close is "I really like everything I have heard so far and I'm ready to speak to the VP of sales (or whatever the next step is). What else do you need to know from me in order for me to do that?" or something that to that effect. It sounds obnoxious and too forward but hey, that's sales.
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paperchaseguy posted:Here's what someone posted in response to me a while back: So the salary.com thing is worth it then? What all do they actually contain? Edit: I've got an interview in about an hour...I'll let you guys know how it goes. Plinkey fucked around with this message at Aug 16, 2006 around 16:55 |
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Tear my resume to shreds, pretty please? http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu...uder-Resume.pdf I'm primarily using this to apply to internships and research fellowships, even though it doesn't specifically say so in my Objective. I'd really love to expand on the "Honors and Awards" and "Organizations and Activities" sections, but I also really love my nice single page of resume compactness. Suggestions? Also, what's the general consensus about sending unsolicited resumes, as in, not in response to a particular job offer? Thanks!
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psychicattack posted:Professional sales can be extremely rewarded but it can also make you lose all faith in humanity. Pretty much. A recent graduate friend of a friend wanted to go into sales because she "liked people". That didn't make any sense to me, because 95% of the salespeople I know hate people. Plinkey posted:So the salary.com thing is worth it then? What all do they actually contain? The free info on salary.com is probably enough. NakedRush posted:Tear my resume to shreds, pretty please? Remove the "references" line. I would put a carriage return between sections, and use all black fonts. Be consistent, put the months that you worked instead of "summer". Expand your skills section a little, still keeping them to one line each if you can. Some people say to remove the objective, though I still have one on my resume. You don't have anough for two pages, and your Clubs and Organizations section is probably the least important thing. So don't go beyond a page if you can at all help it. Unsolicited resumes can't hurt, though you'll certainly get less response than solicited ones.
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paperchaseguy posted:Pretty much. A recent graduate friend of a friend wanted to go into sales because she "liked people". That didn't make any sense to me, because 95% of the salespeople I know hate people. If you want to stay in sales you have to get rid of that mentality. Oh trust me there are days when I want to blow up the world and everyone in it but on the whole I'm pretty easy going and like talking to a bunch of differentp people. Now that I do recruiting it's like a combination of babysitting and sales. I've never had to bite my lip so much in my life.
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paperchaseguy posted:You don't have anough for two pages, and your Clubs and Organizations section is probably the least important thing. So don't go beyond a page if you can at all help it. I would be able to flesh out the applicable skills section a lot more, as well as the honors and awards section. That, plus spacing things out a little, could probably give me two solid pages. Would that be worth abandoning the single-page mantra?
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NakedRush posted:I would be able to flesh out the applicable skills section a lot more, as well as the honors and awards section. That, plus spacing things out a little, could probably give me two solid pages. Would that be worth abandoning the single-page mantra? The single page thing makes me crazy. I see people cram 9pt font without decent spacing for a one page resume. Throw that notion out the window right now because honestly since 90% of resumes are being read electronically who really cares? I wouldn't beef it up just to make two pages but if it's a page and a quarter it's not a big deal.
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NakedRush posted:I would be able to flesh out the applicable skills section a lot more, as well as the honors and awards section. That, plus spacing things out a little, could probably give me two solid pages. Would that be worth abandoning the single-page mantra? Well, I disagree with psychicattack somewhat, though she sees a lot more resumes than I do. I just feel that if you're close to a page, keep it a page. If by adding some carriage returns and expanding on what you have gets you to 1.5+ pages, then ok. also: fully justify, some of your right hand margins look weird.
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paperchaseguy posted:Well, I disagree with psychicattack somewhat, though she sees a lot more resumes than I do. I just feel that if you're close to a page, keep it a page. If by adding some carriage returns and expanding on what you have gets you to 1.5+ pages, then ok. Well no, I agree. There is no sense making it two pages when it would look perfectly fine being one page. There is no advantage in making it two pages and if you just have a couple of lines on page two, that last page gets lost when it's printed out. I know this because I have lost countless second pages when it looks finished by the end of page one.
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psychicattack posted:Well no, I agree. There is no sense making it two pages when it would look perfectly fine being one page. There is no advantage in making it two pages and if you just have a couple of lines on page two, that last page gets lost when it's printed out. I know this because I have lost countless second pages when it looks finished by the end of page one. Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I'm saying is that I definitely have enough content to make it two full pages long - I wouldn't just be doing it for the sake of having a longer resume. There are more points that I'd like to be able to sell myself on, and keeping my resume at one page is preventing me from doing that. And thanks for the other advice so far, guys.
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So can somebody look at this? I'd rather know if the "meat" is good before trying to make it all purdy in word. http://www.box.net/public/zok704scjq
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whoredog posted:So can somebody look at this? I'd rather know if the "meat" is good before trying to make it all purdy in word. Don't use "I" if you can help it. And give some more info on what you do daily. It seems everything you list was ancillary to your duties. Give some numbers, what volume of items do you check every day, how much of the day, etc. Economize a bit, say "met" instead of "Was required to meet". Unless you didn't actually meet the requirements.
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paperchaseguy posted:Don't use "I" if you can help it. And give some more info on what you do daily. It seems everything you list was ancillary to your duties. Give some numbers, what volume of items do you check every day, how much of the day, etc. Economize a bit, say "met" instead of "Was required to meet". I figured i'd do a brief description sort of like a one page mini cover letter above the actual job bullets hence the "I"s there since i'm not providing a cover letter. Still think it's bad?
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I have to say that I've found this thread very interesting and informative at times - I'm very impressed with the willingness of everybody to offer help to others! Makes the $10 well worth it. I'm going to be submitting my own résumé to firms in the near future, so here's another résumé for you guys to tear apart - if you have any comments or criticisms, do feel free to make them. I have not yet written up an accompanying cover letter; I will speak to my tutors before I do that. For background, a "BA in Jurisprudence" is what my university dubs its law degree; don't ask why, as we do many strange things around here. Any advice and criticisms would be appreciated! http://users.ox.ac.uk/~kebl2846/altresume.pdf
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Thank's for the advice on phone interviewing, and the sales industry. I called the hiring manager but he was unavailable, so I left a message. If he doesnt call I will try again on Friday.angelicism posted:Anyway, could someone look over my resume and see if there's anything I should fix? Under Education, - I would remove the years you attended college; it’s just taking up space - Be consistent with the format you use for dates. Substitute “May 17th, 2006” with “May 2006” - Change “Coursework includes” to “Relevant Coursework.” Instead of listing random courses taken in College, select the class that apply specifically to the job position - Remove all the High School information. With a college degree it’s assumed you graduated from High School. Skills, - Rephrase “basic French, basic conversational Korean” (it doesn’t really say much, what do you mean by ‘basic’?) to something like “Reading Knowledge of French, Fluent in spoken Korean” Work Experience, - Again be consistent with date format. Change all the “(summer 200X)” to “(June 200X- September 200X)” - You can cut some of the wording down, and make it easier to read EX. 1) “Responsible for maintaining Unix/Linux systems …” to “Maintained Unix/Linux systems …” 2) “Responsible for writing programs …” to “Wrote (list what kind of program) programs …” 3) “Responsible for writing and editing …” to “Wrote and edit …” Important: Try listing more accomplishments instead of job duties. By listing real accomplishments it will appear that you are more driven, and won’t just do the minimum to get by. When you were at Freelancer and you set up their website, what was end result? What did it increase and by how much? OPTIONAL: You could either remove the “English Tutor, Seoul, Korea” and “Violin Teacher, Bedford, NY” information or move it under a new title heading like OTHER EXPERIENCE. Being English Tutor/Violin teacher isn’t significant for programming. Extra-Curriculars & Interest, “Go/Baduk/Wei-Qi, Poker, Music, Webdesign” POKER as in Gambling? This is something you definitely do NOT add on a resume you’re trying to make a positive impression. Delete the entire last line, and rename EXTRA-CURRICULARS & INTEREST to just EXTRA-CURRICULARS. In all honesty, the hiring manager will not care that you play baduk or that you like music. Who doesn’t like music? Sorry if I sound like jerk. angelicism posted:edit: I never know what to put as an objective. I mean, realistically, I want a job. That sounds awful, working at job you hate for the rest of your life, and it only gets harder to change careers the longer you wait. Is there any job that you would enjoy? You could create a Functional resume that will focus more on your transferable skills. Lord Denning MR posted:
When I saw your resume the first thing that came to my mind was psychicattack posted:The single page thing makes me crazy. I see people cram 9pt font without decent spacing for a one page resume. Throw that notion out the window right now because honestly since 90% of resumes are being read electronically who really cares? Don’t know that much about resumes for law students. Since, this a resume I suggest you get rid off “Previous Education.” It is not necessary to least every school you attended as a kid. Other than that, it looks good GD fucked around with this message at Aug 17, 2006 around 09:13 |
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whoredog posted:I figured i'd do a brief description sort of like a one page mini cover letter above the actual job bullets hence the "I"s there since i'm not providing a cover letter. Still think it's bad? Better to go with a cover letter. Lord Denning MR posted:http://users.ox.ac.uk/~kebl2846/altresume.pdf You've done lots of things that make this hard to read. The fonts are too small, the margins too small, you have a dividing line right above a font that is underlined (do just the line or the underline, or neither). The way you've spread out "Name Date Location" is weird and makes it confusing to the eye. Consolidate them. I would also not use italics as the way you've done so seems inconsistent. I would leave out the "previous education" section, any scholarships you declined, and any high school scholarships. And remove the "other information" section except for maybe French and the computer skills. angelicism posted:my resume. I don't like the two levels of bullets. Remove the first level bullets except for in the skill section. Put the dates and graduation dates on the same line as the school/job. Say "bachelor's in Computer Science, minor...", it makes it clear you are a graduate. A lot of your experience basically reads "received assignment. completed assignment." Yeah, but what exactly did you do? Be more specific about your work dates, and leave out the extra curriculars. You can probably get this down to one page.
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GD posted:notes Thanks I'll look into all this. GD posted:That sounds awful, working at job you hate for the rest of your life, and it only gets harder to change careers the longer you wait. Is there any job that you would enjoy? You could create a Functional resume that will focus more on your transferable skills. In a nutshell, I'm considering law school, just not right now. paperchaseguy posted:I don't like the two levels of bullets. Remove the first level bullets except for in the skill section. Put the dates and graduation dates on the same line as the school/job. Say "bachelor's in Computer Science, minor...", it makes it clear you are a graduate. A lot of your experience basically reads "received assignment. completed assignment." Yeah, but what exactly did you do? Be more specific about your work dates, and leave out the extra curriculars. You can probably get this down to one page. Can you elaborate? I thought I did put down what I did, and I'm not sure how to clarify. And how much more specific can I be about work dates -- actual dates? I don't remember those.
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angelicism posted:Can you elaborate? I thought I did put down what I did, and I'm not sure how to clarify. And how much more specific can I be about work dates -- actual dates? I don't remember those. It just says "wrote script in XXX according to specifications". What exactly did the script do, what were the specifications, etc.? You can just put down what month, approximate if you have to.
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I'm another person who's sending out unsolicited resumes. There isn't a huge industry for my skills, so I'm inquiring at every place in my city that could possibly hire me. I don't really expect any of these places to call me back, so in the closing of my cover letters I've stated that I would be making a follow-up phone call this week. I'm trying to be aggressive without being a butt and I've been very confident of my actions so far, but I'm rather uncomfortable with how I should be making this next step. I expect that some will likely tell me up front that they have no openings and are not interested in hiring right now. With others, I expect that I might have more room to bargain and sell myself. What would be a good way to handle an employer who is not interested in hiring, but would hopefully remember me as available and enthusiastic? Keep in mind that there isn't a huge talent pool for people with my skills in this city so if something comes up, I would hope that they remember me. For ones who might have positions, would it be too forward to ask to meet them in person to discuss their company and my skills(either at their office or offer to buy lunch or something)? What are some good ways to frame this kind of conversation when you're calling out of the blue?
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I too am looking for help with my resume. Please give me any tips Resume I'd be happy to answer any questions. Thank you in advance.
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Can I ask questions about interviews here? I just had a phone interview and I did what I typically do on the phone: freeze up. I'm terrible at conversations on the phone, and I've tried to improve but I seem to be getting nowhere (this is phone conversations in general, not just interviews). I made sure I had no distractions, had a notepad in front of me, etc. but for some reason I blank when I'm asked questions. Actually part of this is problems with interviews in general.  For some reason I'll know I know the answer to a question, but absolutely cannot think of what the answer is because I'm so nervous. Is there anything I can do to work on this? Or is this a problem I just need to plow through? I'm a really personable person (yeah, that sounded dumb) once I'm comfortable, and I want to play that as one of my strengths (being a CS person at all), but interviews make me spectacularly nervous.
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angelicism posted:Actually part of this is problems with interviews in general. No real answer other than self confidence. You'll see the same thing in the Meet Women! thread. Fake it until it's real. The only option is to just keep trying and perfect your impersonation of a confident person who is sure they are the best for the job.
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Tried searching the thread and didn't get any results so here goes, anyone got any tips for sending out CVs cold? I'm including cover letters but I'm not sure how to word the first line, any ideas as to what I should say?
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PhoenixSeraph posted:
Overall Criticisms 1)Your resume is visually unappealing – There’s personal pronouns everywhere, nothing is concise or indented, used 3 different fonts (New Roman, Franklin Gothic, & Arial) on the resume (pick one) 2)It’s THREE pages long – A recruiter who reviews hundreds of resumes won’t even bother to read it 3)You’re Objective is full of fluff, and doesn’t tell me what position you’re interested in. I am supposed to read a 3 page long resume, and decide for you? Education Go with what paperchaseguy mentioned before, make it clear where and when you graduate Ex. Name of College, City, State Bachelor of (X) degree, Expected in (Month) (Year) Major: Management Relevant Coursework There is a reason why it’s called RELEVANT coursework. Find out what your Objective is and list the applicable classes. Skills Use bulleted points, and be concise and to the point. BAD: - “Knowledge of all Microsoft Business programs including MS Word, MS Publisher, MS Excel, MS Access, MS Outlook Express, MS Navision,” GOOD: Something similar to - “Proficient in Microsoft Suite” Or “MS Word, MS Publisher, MS Excel, MS Access, MS Outlook Express, MS Navision” Work Experience Bold your job title to make it stand out, include the city and state where these companies are located in. Again be consistent, you went from “April 2005 to Present, Amron International, Pricing Coordinator” to “June 2002 to August 2003, Rock Wall Assistant, Rock Rental.” Volunteer Work See Work Experience LANGUAGES - Get rid of this section and add the information under SKILLS heading. Something like “Bilingual- fluent in Spanish” Computer Skills A lot of this is monotonous, is it really necessary to list all the versions of WordPerfect you used? angelicism posted:Can I ask questions about interviews here? The same thing happened to me, when I left my message yesterday for a sales job. I froze and said something like “Hello Mr. blank, my name is GD. I’m calling to uhh…. letting you know I am interested in this job … and um what’s the next step? Call me at 111-1111.  It was horrible; I forgot that I need to sell myself. Naturally, he hasn’t called back, but I’m not giving up so easily. I going call again but this time I wrote down my strong points on a notebook. So next time my message won’t sound so  You could use your notepad to write general answers to common interviewing questions to refresh your memory. So, when they as ask “what’s you greatest strength?” You can check your notepad and it will mentioned something like “Greatest strength= personable person.” Of course this won’t work on a face-to-face interview, and don’t write the whole answer because it will sound phony.
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I hate seeing job positions for companies I had interviews with three+ weeks ago. It's like going on a date with a girl but getting dumped at the end. I really want to send an e-mail to the HR person: "I couldn't help but notice your posting over at Dice. GUESS YOU SHOULD'VE TAKEN ME, HUH, SUCKA???"
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