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I like how in Roy's ultimate victory fantasy he still needs a Vaarsuvius ex machina to succeed. I guess yesterday it would also have included Durkon, though... 
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There's also a slide of V and Durkon casting the ritual on a rift. I don't think anyone present knows about the whole thing needing a divine and arcane caster. I'm guessing O'chul told the Order basically everything that happened with Team Evil during his stay off-screen.
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May 13, 2013 09:37
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Look closer. Durkon is certainly emoting. In the very smallest frame that has anything visible (after O-chul and the MitD and Élan with a giant lollipop), it looks like V is talking to someone with a Draketooth colors scheme (orange hair, red and purple clothes). Could be the runes are also affecting V.
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May 13, 2013 09:56
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NihilCredo posted:there's Inkyrius, which only V knows. We already know that this is also V's Happy Ending. In panel #19 we can clearly see V reconciling with a member of the Draketooth clan after they were all resurrected, and none of the other party members know about V's little genocide mishap. 
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May 17, 2013 14:58
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JohnnyCanuck posted:V's expression is curiously neutral in every panel where we can see her face. Dunno what this means, but it's probably something? You could say this for basically any strip that isn't centered on V.
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May 17, 2013 20:57
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W.T. Fits posted:I've been sitting here thinking about the Belkar's impending doom and wondering if there isn't a loophole that would allow him to get brought back without violating the letter of the prophecy that doesn't involve him becoming undead. From a narrative perspective, it won't work. "Belkar will draw his last breath" can pretty much only be satisfactorily resolved with his death or subverted by his becoming a non-breathing creature. "...Because he's going to change his name to Steve," "...Because he'll gain a point of wisdom on his next levelup and change alignment to chaotic neutral and become a totally different person" or "...Because even though he'll live for another 60 years, he's going to end up travelling back in time and dying in the pyramid as an old man" are all possible subversions of the prophecy, too, but none of them are going to happen because they'd all be really disappointing.
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May 17, 2013 21:42
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ChaosSamusX posted:Are you sure about that? I recognise V in that panel, but even zoomed in, it's hard to gather what the other entity is. Obviously I'm exaggerating, but it's someone with orange hair and blue and purple clothes. I don't think we've met any other characters with that color scheme.
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May 18, 2013 23:50
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Eh, I don't think gendered insults are the worst thing, but they're still not the best thing to use when we're supposed to agree with the character speaking. D&D is supposed to be a completely gender-neutral setting, at least as far as player races are concerned. OotS has a much bigger issue with representation, anyway. Haley, Sabine and Lien are the only active female players in the story, and Julia, Celia, Hilda and the Empress are still alive but inactive. Everyone else is either dead, gone or a dude. EDIT: Shoot, I was totally gonna put something clever about V in there. V is certainly none of those. Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 13:58 on May 28, 2013 |
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May 28, 2013 11:33
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:It's hard to have a reasonable debate when one is starting from a position of unreasonability (that would be you). Maybe you should calm down and not be so mad about people discussing things on the internet. Stabbey_the_Clown posted:You can either read the comic and enjoy it despite its flaws, or decide that the flaws are too much and stop reading the comic. If you read the lines, that's what he's doing. I wasn't aware that discussing the flaws of something meant that you aren't allowed to enjoy that thing.
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May 29, 2013 15:09
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This is gonna be Roy's first time seeing Durkula.
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Jun 10, 2013 09:14
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Uranium Phoenix posted:The real gate *is* probably in this pyramid and not another, but if the only way to get to it was by getting hit by a trap and ending up in an network of hard-to-navigate-underground tunnels (or just in a buried chamber, because it's not like they need to use it), well, that would be a lot harder to find. The trap wasn't actually connected to those tunnels, though. Assuming that the actual way to access the gate is passing through a wall somewhere, the "entrance" ought to be either past all the deadliest traps or near the Draketooth living quarters.
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Jun 18, 2013 10:44
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Superstring posted:I honestly don't understand why he keeps that thing around. What tangible benefit could it possibly bring? Ad revenue and maybe donations, is my guess. If Andrew Hussie and the Hetalia writers can survive their audience, it should be easy enough for people like Rich to make a bit on the side.
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prefect posted:You think the problem with Hetalia is the audience? Well, someone on the internet told me that the authors know exactly how awful their product is and that they're only doing it for the money. I am not defending the show itself in the least, just saying that there are people who nourish way worse communities than the GitP forums for money.
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Jul 8, 2013 12:59
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Yeah, the most charismatic character in the story isn't exactly a friend-maker, himself.
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Jul 28, 2013 04:16
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The rule is that becoming a vampire traps the soul, so Durkon's soul is still in his body, and is still Lawful Good and will go to the LG afterlife if the body is killed, but Durkula the entity is Lawful Evil. Remember, Malack said that if he were resurrected, he would become his pre-vampire self. I think his soul is destroyed because he was killed by sunlight, though.
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Jul 30, 2013 18:08
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They're like everybody else's, except one of them is in the process of being knocked out of their mouth. Which indicates that Durkon is indeed hitting like a truck.
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MikeJF posted:That was before he decided on continuity. It would've reset next strip. The fact he decided not to have one-off gags is why he dropped it. In the linked post, Rich explained that he had decided that Durkon would eventually become a vampire, though. Malack was created to turn Durkon into a vampire and then die so he wouldn't crowd Durkon's turf.
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Aug 3, 2013 09:28
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I had a bad hunch that "pay's good" would be Z's last words. I was hoping we'd get to see their character fleshed out a bit more, but I guess someone has to die unceremoniously at Durkon's hands to establish him as evil. Godspeed, noble drow. You were the most competent and likable member of the linear guild. 
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Aug 6, 2013 08:52
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And his deity situation is prescribed in the vampire rulebook. He's technically an atheist cleric right now, which as a vampire gives him access to a couple of domains including evil and destruction, but not death. Assuming that he is indeed getting the death domain, he will eventually worship Nergal or Hel.
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Oh yeah, Durkon now has access to Hasten Undeath. Over/under on when Durkon will create an army of NPC thralls?
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Aug 8, 2013 10:57
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Someone did post on the GitP forums to ask if Malack was really dead or that was just his gaseous form, and Rich responded "Nope, Malack is dead and gone forever." So whether the rules allow for his ressurection, the plot does not.
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I'm mostly excited we finally got to see Tarquin show some character outside of the perfectly pragmatic overlord. He really wants his kids to like him, even if it doesn't lead to the best narrative or tactical actions. Judging by the current trend of this book, I'd give Tarquin 20 more strips before he dies at most. Also I doubt we'll see Nale return as a fiend. It's not really a common D&D trend, and for good reason.
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Trapezium Dave posted:I could only really see Tarquin being defeated by either Elan or Xykon, and I don't think either of them would do so until the next book. I wasn't expecting Durkon, Malack, Z or Nale to die when they did, either!
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Aug 21, 2013 13:10
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FMguru posted:We never did get much of an idea why Nale hated Malack so much, did we? I always assumed it was because Dad left Nale early to go adventuring/empire-building with Malack - essentially choosing Malack over Nale - and that really stuck in Nale's craw, but that's still just supposition. Nale grew up with Tarquin and his gang as surrogate parents. Malack was also implied to be his tutor. I'm pretty sure he had a pretty lovely childhood and Malack was likely the worst element.
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sebmojo posted:Why the Order of the Scribble split up There was always tension between Soon and Girard because they were both alignment dicks, and then Kraagor died when he didn't have to and Girard blamed Soon for it. Lirian and Dorukan never actually split up. Serini's fate hasn't been touched on at all, but she might still be alive and would probably have been in touch with the others. Which reminds me of a crazy theory I have: since Kraagor's Gate is Kraagor, he ends up being unpetrified when the gate is eventually undone, and ends up replacing Belkar on the last leg of the story. They both serve similar combat roles, they're both short non-humans and Kraagor is the least developed Order of the Scribble character.
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Oh, yeah, I never even considered that, but it's quite possible. There goes that theory  Kraagor's death splitting the Order is alluded to in this strip, though.
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Man, I hope churning out all these strips so fast isn't too hard on the ol' thumb. 
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Slashrat posted:Really, unless you had very particular reasons to believe that there was someone with plans for you that you'd rather stay dead than allow to be carried out, why wouldn't you accept a rez regardless of the cleric's alignment? The main idea is that if an evil priest resurrects you, and you don't have any evil priest friends, they probably want to torture you or capture your soul. I'm not sure why you'd refuse resurrection by a good priest unless you're a paranoid idiot or you're happy with your afterlife.
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Sabine looks like she's Lawful Evil; at least her superior is the Lawful Evil fiend and she worked with the LE imp and dated an LE guy.
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nimby posted:In D&D, do past atrocities matter when it is being decided what afterlife you go to? I think the rule is that you could put good in the character sheet as soon as your dude becomes honestly devoted to helping others, but if he dies before he can commit enough good deeds to outweigh his past, he's not getting into the good afterlife.
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Aug 27, 2013 17:09
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Well, it's ultimately up to the DM. I think a heroic sacrifice can outweigh quite a lot of evil.
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Slashrat posted:I thought they just distilled it down to lawful good, good, neutral, evil and chaotic evil as a single linear track? Yeah, they only got rid of the fun alignments. And Chaotic Neutral.
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Aug 27, 2013 23:17
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Xykon could seize the gate and cast the ritual, find out it doesn't do what he wants, and then have a badass throwdown with Redcloak. Regardless of outcome, the Dark One finds out it doesn't do what he wants, either. Obviously the narrative issue here is that it'd take a lot of tension out of the story, but there's plenty of room for a new thread, such as a race to re-seal the rifts because poo poo gets unstable.
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Aug 29, 2013 14:32
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Tarquin couldn't have planned for that, though. He didn't know that the gate was going to be destroyed or that Elan would refuse to be It's more likely that he's being straight about the petty revenge, and/or feels exactly the same way about Haley and Elan's relationship that Ian does and is trying to split them.
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Strudel Man posted:Yeah, I don't feel like it really makes a lot of sense for Tarquin to do this. The lowly stock thing doesn't work for someone who isn't actually of noble extraction - he wasn't born into his position, he clawed his way up to it, so it's bizarre for him suddenly to be thinking like a blueblood. It's not "your dad is a commoner," it's "your dad is a dick." Rich likes to show off similarities between people of conflicting alignments and goals, and Tarquin distrusts Haley for exactly the same reason Ian distrusts Elan. A.o.D. posted:I hope that a Xykon/Redcloak throwdown starts with the following line: It's been implied that Xykon likes to pop off for the occasional solo adventure, and that's how he keeps up.
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I think Tarquin is due for a hard fall really soon. The only narrative way he could get away with everything he is doing would be if he was replacing Xykon as the main villain of the story, which I'm sure he thinks he's doing, but it's going to come back to bite him.
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my dad posted:I think Rich mentioned that V had a gender originally, but after a few strips he figured that having them be ambiguous would be funnier. In one of the early strips, Roy refers to V as "V-man". Rich has mentioned that it was because most readers thought V was female and he wanted a more evenly split opinion. So it's been ambiguous since that strip at least.
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MikeJF posted:Someone mentioned that Spelljammer monster: google gave me someone posting this: Doesn't really fit with the whole "Oh god, it's hideous! *vomits*," "You are one ugly sumbitch, aren't you?" bits in SoD, either.
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Johnny Aztec posted:Didn't durkon still have a Thor's might? How would his domineering gaze work if he used it? Could he take over a large chunk of the army? I don't think Durkon has access to his domain spells from Thor right now. Tarquin is gonna bite it within three strips. I'm calling it.
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Oh, now I get why Roy wants to keep Belkar around. Durkon can cast restoration on anyone whose blood he's been drinking. It sure would suck if the OotS were stuck somewhere without any evil humanoids or other acceptable sources of blood, wouldn't it? Why, he'd have to snack on a party member, and letting a vampire bite Roy, Elan, Haley of V would just be wrong. 
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