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The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Random Stranger posted:

I think that's how you get Freemen on the Land.

That is probably one of the best descriptions of the Freeman on the Land movement.
Sure it leaves out the sections of fraudsters and the desperate people who want to believe in it because they are in trouble, but otherwise it's a fantastically accurate description.

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The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

On the other hand, he made it a point with Durkon in an early strip (it's where Durkon and the Loki priestess "hug it out") that Dwarves are so big on duty and honour that if it means being stuck in a loveless marriage because that's what you are expected to do, then you stick out that shame marriage. It's not the biggest leap of logic to apply that way of thinking to who you can and can't date.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Captain Oblivious posted:

Look at Belkar's face. He isn't going to bite it here. He looks "mildly irate" at best, not "about to plummet to his inevitable doom".

His face reminds me of Willie Coyote in a Tex Avirary cartoon.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Classtoise posted:

That's why you have Warp Wood :smugbert:

Isn't that a spell from the book of Nyphmology?

Oh no, that's Store Wood. Never mind.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

The last character I played in Pathfinder was a Barbarian, who went down the Superstitious/Witch Hunter route. They are basically like Conan that when you come up against a spell caster you can freak out and just chop their heads off.
Huge bonuses to save against spells/super high Touch AC and the ability to Dispel Magic as attacks means that you can do a good job of messing up a Wizard's day.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

This is just the classic example of that literary trope where Satan explains to the heroes why they are the real bad guys.

Of course it's a bollocks argument there and it's a bollocks argument here.
The creature saying it is a lying liar who lies. By definition he's either going to put the worst spin on things or take them out of context. You don't try and debate such a creature, you dismiss it (possibly by casting Dismissal on it) and move on.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Who What Now posted:

After 9th there are only Epic/10th level slots, anything that would be high because of Metamagic is still 10th level.

With Empowered Spell and a feat from Races of Stone (Earthen Spell) you can cast spells at ninth level but they count as 10th level. (It's a part of an Illusionist build where you cast a first level spell and then turn it into any 9th level Evocation spell that you want.)

But that's not important right now. With the right feats you can easily reduce the metamagic spell level cost to almost all spells.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

It says no Living creatures can go through. What about Mechanical creatures?

Time to call the Modron Tech Support!

"An anti - life shell is causing you difficulties. Have you tries turning the undead cleric on and off?"

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Harime Nui posted:

You've not lived til your players have killed a session melting random silverware they found in a dungeon over their weapons to make the blades good against "werewolves and vampires and poo poo"

I hope you then threw a bunch of Loupgarou at them. And also some Garou's named Lou for good measure.

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Jun 8, 2013

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jsoh posted:

do familiars get acces to any kind of spells. for some reason im imagining the bird doing a thing and then the vampire dispelling it and accidentally dispelling the polymorph on bloodfeast the exterminator and destroying the airship

There's at least one Feat that let's you share some of your spells with your familiar. But I think the maximum level you can ever give them are like Level 3 spells.

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Jun 8, 2013

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ikanreed posted:

Yeah, but that didn't resolve anything in an interesting way. It was the "Oh boy there's an important person with a destiny" prophecy, played a little different than normal. For being the awful crutchy cliche use of something, you just don't see it much.

I disagree, I thought that the Force prophecy in Star Wars was an example of it well done.
It was a vague statement (The Chosen One shall bring balance of the Force.) That the Jedi council chose to interpret as a Good thing but Palapatine chose to completely ignore and focus on his ambition.
And by the end of the third movie all but two Jedi and two Sith are dead so balance has been brought to the Force. Of course Obi Wan and Yoda are left lamenting that they put so much stock in the prophecy and we're screwed over by it.
Then you have Return where Palapatine is a victim of the Prophecy. He puts all his faith in the undying loyalty of Darth Vader and that he will be able to corrupt Luke. He doesn't and is betrayed.
By doing so and killing himself, Vader has killed all the old Jedi and wiped out the ascendent Dark Side.
Luke (and Leia) are left as the only Force users and are free to rebuild the Force as a new balanced entity.

I think Prophecies as literary devices work best where there is interpretation or wiggle room or they are things that make you slap your head and say "now I see" like a riddle.

They are bad when they are essentially a spoiler like summary of how the story is going to be resolved.
"Xylkon will lose the title after getting hit by three Super kicks. "

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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jng2058 posted:

No that's color spray. Prismatic spray means she's trying to set them on fire, melt them with acid, fry them with electricity, poison them, turn them to stone, drive them insane, or banish them to another plane.

Or, you know, blow a 7th level spell slot in celebration. Could be that too. :rolleyes:

Now now. They could have gone with Prismatic Mist, which is only 3rd level.
Or Rainbow Blast or Rainbow Ray from Eberon, which are 2nd/3rd level.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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Taerkar posted:

I never realized before how silly the drowning rules are.

Fine for potentially dozens of turns, then three turns of 0, -1, dead.

This came up last week in our D&D game where one member decided to just go swimming in the sea and got horribly mauled and dragged away by giant crabs.

Like were it not for teleportation magic, he was super "get the diamond dust out" dead. Because CPR is not a thing in D&D.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Poison Mushroom posted:

If anything, it's strange that there's no magic solution. Magic can cure being poisoned, turned to stone, eviscerated, turned to jelly, and turned into a frog, but not having water in your lungs?

But that's just a thing about D&D (and Pathfinder.) There are a lot of situations where magic can completely trump a situation and some baffling ones where they can't.
Like you need to do a forced march through a deadly jungle with no food or water?
Yeah there are low level spells that make it a cake walk.
But (as an example.) we had a campaign where the bad guys were operating in a hidden Giant city at the top of the tallest mountain.
And we prepare to go climb the mountain and wreck them (since the place was warded against teleportation) and we run into a problem.
The air is too thin at the top of the mountain. If we try and climb it, we will just die.

And we spent a good hour and a half looking for spells or magic items to let us get through. And we could find all manner of stuff to let you survive underwater or even swimming through lava or stone.
But going to a place with very little air?
Only one spell in one source book could fix that problem.

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Jun 8, 2013

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IMJack posted:

I found your problem. It's this concept of "if it's in a sourcebook it's allowed" and its inversion "if it's not in a sourcebook it's not possible". It's that the players and GM don't have the imagination to adapt something appropriate into the rules of their imagination game.

Well thanks for saying that I have no imagination.

In answer to your question D&D as a game has it's flaws and shoddy rules. But if you start wholesale ignoring them or just creating new rules or new spells for specific situations you can end up with even more unbalanced things.

Anyway the Spell that fixed everything was Life Bubble. For when you need to walk around on the Moon.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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It's funny how Half-Orcs tend to be the better choice then pure Orc.

Warcraft had an RPG which I imagine did a decent job on Orcs. But by all accounts the Warcraft RPG was terribad.

Also fair play to Rich Berlew on how he deals with online fans. The only way I can stay sane on the Internet is to adopt a policy where I automatically assume anyone posting on the Internet who I don't know in real life is a bot and I can completely discount what they say.

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Jun 8, 2013

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wiegieman posted:

A lot of the problems people have with Shadowrun boil down to them not wanting to play Shadowrun.

Shadowrun is a game about being a violent professional criminal, and you should make characters that are good at being violent professional criminals. There are lots of ways to do this, but everybody should have a way to kill a security guard who decides its time to arrest a PC by shooting them a lot.

There is some rule clunk, but not as much as people think, and you don't have to follow every printed character like it's gospel.

There's also the difficulty of if you are a player who decides to go into Hacking. That's no problem. They have books and books of Hacking rules.

But if you want to use them, it basically means the Hacker and the GM go off and play a different game while the other PC's just twiddle their thumbs.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Shugojin posted:

Yeah he learned the wrong lesson

Also Xykon probably would have shitstomped Eugene anyway because beating epic wizards is the very thing he does best

But that's also because Eugene was a dumbass about getting revenge. Xyklon kills Eugene's master, and Eugene figures that he will just succeed where his master failed.
He didn't even bother specialising or training on specific anti caster based magic. You could very easily build a Wizard who could deal with Xyklon's brand of spell blasting.
(For example, a Wizard with a ton of items with Silence cast on them who can apply Silent Spells to their own casting.)

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Jun 8, 2013

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The best part about Eugene's spiel is....He still has learned nothing.

His advice to Roy was let the Gods destroy the world because that will surely kill the Skelly-bad mam and get Eugene out of his debt.
But it fails to take account that Zyklon could survive the world ending. (We know that he has an extra-planar fortress. So one Plane Shift and he can watch the End of the World and chuckle)
Then who will Eugene get to fulfil that oath.
Or even more hilariously the Lawful Good Gods may say "No the belt doesn't change hands on a DQ. You didn't end this guy, the clock did. You get nothing Eugene! "

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Jun 8, 2013

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Taciturn Tactician posted:

It's in the Murphy thread somewhere but if you stack enough modifiers on that shadow illusion nonsense you can actually end up doing more damage if they save.

Yeah basically the person goes "Wait a second. That spell caster is an Illusionist. So that fireball he is throwing at me will safely pass through me."

Then they get hit in the face by an illusionary fireball with part shadow magic and it hurts even more because you weren't prepped for it.

Illusion is such a great magic school.

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Jun 8, 2013

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NGDBSS posted:

So far as I recall it got even worse with:
  • Metamagic shenanigans with Heighten Spell such that you got an effectively free spell level or two.
  • Shadowcraft Mage (only five levels long) also has the capstone feature of Powerful Shadow Magic, which gives +20% to the "realness" of such shadow-typed effects.
  • Shadowcrafter (ten levels long, from Underdark) gives +10% -> +20% to shadow conjurations and evocations, which Shadow Illusion explicitly mimics.
The goofy result was that any targets would potentially be affected more greatly if they succeeded on a saving throw than if they failed, to the tune of perhaps 150% realness at maximum.

Yeah that is where most of the stuff is from. (I am currently playing a Gnome Illusionist who has gotten to Shadowcraft Mage 3 so the fun has begun.)
Dragon Magazine also had another feat that raises the effectiveness of Shadow spells by 20% but many GMS say no to it.

It's also not nearly as cheesy as it sounds. Because to be a good caster the save DC will be fairly high and most bad guys are just going to fail the save. So investing in ways to bump the damage on a failed save isn't going to come up that often.

Plus for the class to be really good, you need to invest 3 feats (Heighten Spell, Earth Sense and Earth Spell) so you can cast 5th level evocation/conjuration spells as 5th level spells not 6th level spells. And for Earth Spell to work you have to be touching the ground or other stone so it won't work if you are flying.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Johnny Aztec posted:

There is no way X knows. At this point, he would straight up just blast redcloak and make a new RedCloak.

I disagree, I firmly believe that X knows.

Sure Red Cloak cast all kinds of magic to fool Scrying and made an exact replica and everything....

But at the end of the day it's X's Phylactry. It's his soul hidey place. His soul is inside it.
He should instantly feel if his soul is inside it or not.
I can see this being the type of thing that Red Cloak gets owned by simply because he has no way of knowing this or never considered that X would care at all about this.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Nenonen posted:

I don't see Xykon as the kind of villain who would keep his knowledge of a betrayal by his right hand guy a secret. He would zap Redcloak without any delay or concern to who would replace Red because that's how X rolls.

Well I went back and checked the archive (it was from 2012 around strip 800.)
The time when X and Red get back the Pylactry is when X sent that Necromancer to steal the Divine half of the ritual to control the Snarl.
When he found out she died (and Red knows that X sent the Necromancer.)
Clearly X realised he was down a Divine spell caster and if he killed Red Cloak there and then he'd have no Divine Caster. And he likely would have to look for where the Divine half of the ritual was hidden. (Not realising that it's not written down.)

In short now wasn't the right time to kill Red, even if he knew that he was being betrayed.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Tenebrais posted:

I think if that were the case Xykon would have had a much easier time finding his phylactery. He cannot feel it or detect it by any other means; he had to look for it by hand.
The only way he can find out Redcloak betrayed him is if he dies and finds himself reviving in the wrong place. Or someone gives the game away to him, obviously.

I'm not saying that he has a Phylactry sense that allows him to detect it for miles and miles.
I'm just saying that as soon as he looks at the exact duplicate of the Holy Symbol he would know it's a duplicate. He'd recognise instantly what is and isn't his Phylactry.

It's not a standard magic item that you could duplicate or even create an illusionary double of. It's his soul. It's litterally a piece of him. The most important piece.

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Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

I'd say that it's all part of a larger game. If you look back at the strips with the fake Phylactry, he sends the Necromancer out to decipher the Arcane Ritual because X doesn't understand it. And he doesn't have the Divine ritual. It all adds up to X knowing that Red Cloak has things he wants.
And sometimes the best play is to not let your foe not know that you know some of their tricks.

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Jun 8, 2013

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I don't want to drag out the Kickstarter discussion much more but from talking to my brother (who backs so many things on Kickstarter he really needs a Kickstopper) that it's great for board games.
Like Greater than Games made so many Sentinels of the Multiverse products from Kickstarter.

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Jun 8, 2013

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RandallODim posted:

A roving party of bards, who spend their time travelling to places at least one of them has never been before. New visitors think real hard while the rest play songs to cheer them on.

A party of bards should be done like a glam rock band. Or Spinal Tap.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Johnny Aztec posted:

Well yeah, you lose a level which dead, and even if he did get RP XP (also XP for that evil adventuring party), he is still gonna be behind the rest, as they had waaaay more going on during this time.

D&D had this mechanic where if you were a lower level than the party, you got bonus xp to help you catch up.
It meant some classes (Wizards) would spend xp casting wish/making items to keep them below party members, then do encounters and get bonus xp to catch right back up.

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Jun 8, 2013

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World Famous W posted:

There are priests that can show everyone the wonders and horrors of the gods and demons and devils can physically show up from the hells. I don't think not believing there is a plane where souls go is what keeps them from wanting to die. It is dying sucks and in a world where demons and devils can physically show up it is likely to be violent and painful to.

The thing about D&D, you can be a perfectly pious person who is a prime candidate for the Afterlife.

But oh no, a hideous undead monster comes along, kill you and is mow keeping your soul inside it's back. Or you fight a greater shadow. Now you are also a greater shadow.

That poo poo ain't fair.

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Jun 8, 2013

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nothing to seehere posted:

The bigger loss is the cast of forcecage: It's a great spell to isolate tricky enemies in their own personal time-out box.

One trick was to make Forcecages with small holes to shoot out of. Make it into your own spell bunker. Which would be extremely handy here.

But I doubt that is what happened.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Are newly raised vampires smart enough to switch to gaseous forms? Like when Durkan became a vampire he didn't know that he had to drink blood or that sunlight was bad.
They may not have the tactical ability to do much aside from retreat.

As for suffocating in D&D, I recall the drowning rules were ludicrous. You went from being fine in water to unconscious to dead, regardless of hitpoints in like two or so rounds. So I wouldn't be sure if D&D had separate drowning AND suffocation rules.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Thaddius the Large posted:

Too bad you can't actually shape the cage like a sphere, doing that around a character with charge would be pretty amazing, a rolling hamster ball of death.


. . . actually I don't know much about the rules, could you do that?

There was a sphere spell which was mostly cast on characters who would stand in front of on coming trains/wagons to destroy them.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/resilientSphere.htm

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Jun 8, 2013

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DoctorTristan posted:

Seems like Roy saying "Cast your second mind blank spell on me" was code for something else.

It probably is. I think V talked about preparing A Mind Blank earlier. He might have prepared a different other 8th level spell and Roy was telling him to cast that.

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Jun 8, 2013

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ultrafilter posted:

How long do dwarf pregnancies last anyway?

It's time to consult the Book of Erotic Fantasy.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Johnny Aztec posted:

Easy. Lawful Evil.

While Trump is the rarely talked about but numerous alignment of Chaotic Stupid.

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Jun 8, 2013

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e X posted:

Has alignment ever been used for something other than justifying mass murder in the game?

All the time. Mostly it comes up when the GM casts spells like Word of Chaos or Blasphemy and wants to know which party members get wrecked the hardest.

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Jun 8, 2013

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This current derail reminds me of Mightygodking.com.

He made the best alignment charts.

The Question IRL fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Apr 23, 2018

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Jun 8, 2013

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Raenir Salazar posted:

There are builds where you can both sneak attack at range AND sneak attack undead; the idea being you're striking at their meridians that carry negative energy that provides locomotion; like acupuncture.

Not being allowed sneak attack Undead was always super dumb to me. Like I viewed it as one of the worst parts of D&D, and more of a problem then anything alignment related.

Like the idea was Undead don't have functioning anatomy or weak points for you to exploit.
So you can't shoot a zombie in the head or stab a vampire in the Heart.

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Jun 8, 2013

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PMush Perfect posted:

At least no one can ever sneak attack John Cena.

But can Randy Orton sneak attack John Cena?

How does "You Can't See Me" stack up against "RKO out of Nowhere."

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Jun 8, 2013

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Colonial Air Force posted:

So, the Nazis on the Eastern Front?

So Hobgoblin's, with tanks.

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