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geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002
Are you seriously saying that you'd consider ditching a relationship so you can spend more time raiding?

:psylon:

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geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

GamingHyena posted:

In an MMO you usually just have the MMO to talk about. MMO relationships tend to ape friendship, but its important to differentiate the two. Think back about how many conversations you've had with your MMO 'friends' about out of game topics as opposed to in game topics.

On a similar topic, my friends who play WoW obsessively now speak only in acronyms. I had to block one because half the time I couldn't understand what he was saying, and he'd get a superiority complex about it if I asked. :(

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

eviljelly posted:

Uh

What would he say to you? I can't even imagine this.

The conversations would go something like,

quote:

Him: Hi.
Me: Oh hey, here's an amusing anecdote about something that happened at work today.
Him: lmbo
Me: I'm going to go home and watch some Lost.
Him: Lost sux, tbqh. Do you watch BSG? It's sodhtinwb.
Me: What? Oh, is that the thing on Sci-Fi? I saw a commercial for it.
Him: Your taste in shows sucks, iyamtbqh. Also, that obviously means "so off da hook that I nearly went blind." Also: commercials? :rolleyes: I can't believe you still watch shows on TV. dlftw.
Me: what
Him: "download for the win!" Jesus!
Me: What?
Him: Jesus, are you living under a rock? By the way, here's some obscure goon squad drama where you know none of the people involved and really don't care, but I'm going to tell you and ask you to provide me with an opinion. It's seriously rtfablammo.
Me: What?
Him: If you played WoW, you'd understand. Are you still playing CoF?
Me: What?
Him: City of Faggots.
Him: Nevermind, this is why we never worked out as a couple. You just don't *get* me.
Me: Yeah, that must be it.
Him: cmqidokamddokfmskoyul!

Only a few of these are the actual acronyms, since I can't remember most of what he was saying. Also, the fact that he actually started using "lol" and "laffo" in response to most everything got to be old.

What I didn't include was the parts of the conversation where I'd tell him I had school, work and a social life and didn't have time for mmorpgs and he'd let me know how ultra-lame going out all the time was and that quite frankly he didn't see the appeal of things like bars and you know, actual social interaction.

geekygrrl fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Mar 16, 2007

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Qwad posted:

Why not get heavily into her?

Does she drop purps?

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

eviljelly posted:

Jesus Christ, that's pathetic.

:eng99: Armchair Psychologist eviljelly says :eng99:

He might have been saying all that poo poo as a passive-aggressive way to not deal with the painful memory of having lost a girlfriend because of his dumb video game addiction.

It wasn't the vidja game. That started after we fell apart. He has met a nice girl he raids with. Last I heard, they started their own guild and both have at least two level 60+ characters. They live in separate states, but still get to see each other from time to time. I haven't seen him in two years, and I'm seriously terrified of what he and this girl look like, considering they play WoW constantly and were unable to find and maintain local relationships in their respective locations. I bet it's pretty :gonk: though.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

ljw1004 posted:

Language! To me what your friends do on AIM isn't "speaking" -- it's typing. He wasn't "saying" the acronyms; he was typing them. You can't "block" someone from speaking to you; you can only block them from AIM. You don't "meet" people online; the online communication is just a prelude to when you actually meet (i.e. in the flesh). Someone isn't a "friend" if your interaction with them is almost entirely online. Maybe I'm just too old-fashioned to read internet forums...

What?

He was a friend in real life, we even lived together for two years. I just couldn't talk to him on AIM anymore for that reason. We live in separate states now, so communication is limited to online stuff.

Sorry if it was confusing, but I can't stand talking... er typing to people on AIM who use dumb internet acronyms. And I do speak to most of my friends (local or otherwise) exclusively through AIM or googletalk because I hate the phone and it's more discreet at work.

Hell, during the workday or when I'm in class even toby and I use googletalk to discuss dinner plans, what time to pick me up. Just because it's electronic it doesn't make it any less of a real conversation.

geekygrrl fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Mar 16, 2007

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Anguissette posted:

First thing, don't stop playing completely. If you ditch your stress reliever/ fun hobby for her you will end up resentful and pissed. I can assure you this will end the relationship, quickly.

There are other methods of relieving stress, like sex with a happy girlfriend or internet porn. I can't imagine anything sadder than feeling some pent-up stress and finding an outlet in double clicking on something endlessly.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

faantastic posted:

Sure sometimes there are commitments you have to put in, but thats like any hobby, the more you put in the more you get out.

Can you please explain what, exactly, you get out of WoW?

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002
I played DAoC, and tried WoW for about a month, but I don't understand most of the terms in your post.

When I played DAoC, I was able to get rather high up and was in a successful guild. But that was only because I was home for long periods of time (trapped in a marriage where he traveled alot and I didn't have many friends in the town we'd moved to). Once I started going out and having a life again, I didn't have time for the DAoC. This is something I noticed with my friends who gamed, as well. Once real life intervenes, there's no time to successfully play the mmorpg. I think this has something to do with the playing an mmorpg -or- having a real life trade-off.

I love video games. I think they can be an excellent way to kill time, something to do with friends, etc. But I prefer console games because, gently caress, I HAVE A LIFE. I can pause a console game. I can save, turn it off, and come back to it. Never once have I put off an evening because of gaming. But my friends who play WoW? Man, you'd better not try to get them to a bar on raid night, not even if it's with a friend they haven't seen in a year.

Most of them have fallen by the wayside, and "WoW" is all you have to say in our group to let them know someone has become incommunicado... and probably overweight.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Anguissette posted:

It's not so much that it's the only way to relieve stress. It's something he enjoys doing. The problem comes in later when the poo poo ton of resentment comes as a result of being forced to completely stop doing something you like. Reducing his play on the other hand is much less likely to cause him to be pissed off and/or resentful toward his girl friend while giving them more time to be together.

This isn't a career in football or his dreams of being the first man to reach the South Pole or something. You can always go back to WoW, it's not like your left-clicking skills get rusty.

If a man told me he resented me for forcing him to give up his WoW playing, I'd find someone less pathetic to spend my time with.

Edit: I would also probably laugh at him, and then tell my girlfriends about it, so they could laugh at him too.

geekygrrl fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 19, 2007

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002
I wonder how many /gchats this is going to be discussed in tonight. :sigh:

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Gabe Jenkins posted:

:awesome:

I'm surprised we classify a WoW nerd as the social deviant and not someone with this spiteful mentality.

Is hardcore gaming something that women just miss the first few months they're dating a guy? She finally moves in... two weeks down the line... "You GAME 20 hours a week?! How could this happen to me! I should have known since you owned both an Xbox360 AND a PS2, you bastard."

The inability for someone to find a healthy social balance in their life is a depressing trend, but the response to it has been just as vile to me.

I'm spiteful for being willing to dump a loser who would rather spend time with a pixelated nightelf than a real, actual girl? Or for one who would say something like, "Man, I really hate that I had to give up WoW for you." It's the equivalent of "Man, I really hate that I gave up FFXIV" for you or whatever.

It's JUST a game. If a guy is so sad that he equates it with a social life/friendship/actual accomplishment, then he kind of needs to be dumped in a hurtful manner. Maybe it would force him to wake the gently caress up.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002
I can't believe how long this thread has gotten.

You all need hobbies. :mad:

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Mayor Wilkins posted:

I'm going to take up severely hardcore drinking as a hobby. Once I've totally destroyed my life and the lives of everyone who is close to me, I will post a thread about it. Lots of people will shout at me for being a dirty loving worthless alcoholic rear end in a top hat, but it'll be fun to see how many people will get really defensive on my behalf and say "hey, don't knock the man for having a hobby that he loves." I am curious.

As a friend, I won't let you halfass that poo poo. "Hobby?" More like "Profession."

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Kalista posted:


You're going to need at least five drunks for this you know...

I know a good tank. He can crit five irish car bombs before losing his aura of sober.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

evilweasel posted:

I kinda wish this thread had been around when I was in college because that sounds like an entertaining idea.

Except that eventually some seriously maladjusted nerds would get their hands on it and take it way too seriously and then it would suck to be a casual drinker.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002
We should totally teach WoW raiding in phys. ed.

But seriously, the comparison of WoW to a team sport is so ridiculous. The only team sport in history to make your rear end larger.

Unless competitive eating is a sport. Is it?

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Yuppidoo posted:

:raise:



Maybe she plays WoW.

Guys, I'm going to leave for awhile. I have to stretch before Gears of War.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002
I thought it was so popular because it was easy. Isn't that the draw of most MMO's? You can find guides to character building everywhere, you just have to learn the rules (usually from a guildmaster who has spent hours reading/researching online how to do this poo poo). There is no natural skill involved. In fact, I know a guy who sucks at the majority of video games, but has excelled at WoW. It is pointing and clicking. There isn't a magical key combination you have to know. It's like any other MMO, where teamspeak helps coordinate but that alone doesn't indicate skill. Counterstrike takes more hand-eye coordination.

I just can't imagine where the feeling of accomplishment comes from. I played DAoC in a moderately successful guild, and we'd go on PvP raids and it was fun, but I never felt, "man, I'm a badass. I totally killed that guy."

I tried WoW. I got to level 32 (playing with my husband) and we mutually decided to quit because it was just like any other MMO. Grind, grind, grind. It gets boring. Plus, he was so embarrassed about playing it that he wouldn't let me talk about it in front of our friends. After seeing how worked up people get over it, I can understand where he was coming from.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Coldbird posted:

If your hobby is ressurecting week-dead threads only to post a new 'argument' that had already showed up several times, then it apparently has not taught you the useful life skill of being able to read large amounts of material.

My, are you throwing a hissy fit?

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Coldbird posted:

Was I really that unfair? People who post without reading the thread generally don't go over well anywhere else here. And this thread really was probably on like page 20.

You seem to be taking people not liking your choice of video game really drat seriously.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Coldbird posted:

You don't think this question is the least bit loaded? I mean, you bought an account on SA, you clicked on this thread, you (presumably) read it, and you took the time to post in it. Feeling like you've picked up some life lesson or physical prowess from doing all that?

You're really hellbent on comparing these forums to WoW. Has WoW ever:

1. taught you proper stances in weight-lifing?
2. given you recipes so you can cook at home and eat out less?
3. critiqued your resume to help you get a job?
4. helped you choose a college?
5. saved a life?

I looked at your post history, you've used SA to get advice on military matters. Did your guild give you helpful advice, as well?

Maybe this thread hasn't done anything good for the majority of the posters, but being someone who actually has played WoW, this thread gave me a huge ego boost and a sense of superiority because I didn't find it worthwhile enough to defend.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

POPE NIABZELVS IV posted:

Nothing, and human beings should of course strive for that; my issue is that the sanctimony would be well suited to, say, a forum of Ivy League professors and Fortune 500 CEOs... when its coming from everyday internet users (and mostly young ones) it strikes me as more like people scapegoating the easy fish in the bucket despite having flawed lives and wasted efforts themselves.

Portions of the thread are like a grand argument between nihilism and people spouting off about a work ethic to make Calvin blush and its all quite pretentious

Oh, I have plenty of worthless things I enjoy doing. I watch Lost, I play video games, I read an online forum.

But I'm not retarded like some people in this thread, and have not convinced myself that any of those things are worthwhile activities. I would not argue with anyone who said, "Man, think about what else you could do during that hour you spent watching Lost." Because they're right.

Nor do I do any of those things for five hour stretches without accomplishing anything else, save sick days.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Coldbird posted:

Wait, I thought you hadn't convinced yourself that SA was overall a worthwhile activity. How many people join SA to become philosopher-kings, and not just for some laughs?


Did I say that? And, for the record, the people who have compared WoW to a team sport, or fishing, or calling it "social interaction."

I know you fancy yourself some sort of master of logic, but you took two very different posts and tried to make one point out of them.

Also, again based on your post history, you joined SA to post about WoW.

Coldbird posted:

Now you're backpedaling. This isn't the argument you made when you listed all the good stuff that comes out of the forum, unless you want to argue people join SA to become philosopher-kings. You weren't arguing there anything about the factor of time spent.

Do you know what backpedaling means? How were those two arguments contradictory at all?

POPE NIABZELVS IV posted:

Who has held WoW playing up to rehearsing for Don Giovanni or serving the homeless at a soup kitchen, exactly?

I meant things like doing the laundry, reading more cases for homework, going for a walk outside, cleaning my office, etc. Things that would be more worthwhile for me.

geekygrrl fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Mar 31, 2007

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002
There's a lot of pots calling kettles sanctimonious in here.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Junior G-man posted:

Could you please elaborate on why this is 'fake post'? Seems like a perfectly reasonable statement to make with regards to the attitudes some people have towards games in this thread.

I think the "epic poem" part tripped my fakepost alarm. He can't be serious.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002
I bet you wear those button up shirts with dragons or blue flames or katanas or some poo poo on them, don't you?

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002
My goodness, this thread. :psylon:

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Zwabu posted:

I think a lot of activities that people do could be found to be "meaningless" by others in that they don't generate revenue or whatever. A lot of it depends on society's current level of acceptance of the activity in question.

I hang out primarily with gamers (mostly console), and WoW is pretty much viewed as the cosplay of gaming. When we briefly played, my husband wouldn't let me tell any of his friends.

Gaming in general is fine, but the South Park type portrayal of high-level WoW players exists for a reason.

Besides, we've moved on. This is now about Epic Capcom poetry.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Danhenge posted:

It looks like it's slow degenerating towards a poo poo rating as well. It is pretty mind boggling.

I'm going to :awesomelon: to counteract the negativity of your post and bring the rating up so the madness may continue.

I changed my vote for the poetry alone.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

MaxxBot posted:

And if one of those people hits the button .2 seconds late all 40 die, no problem right?

So how do you train these skills? Do you stay up all night checking your clicking relex?

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

POPE NIABZELVS IV posted:

To be fair winning a football game doesn't take much skill either. They are won by football players after all. It takes a lot of dedication and repetition of lifting weights and running and teamwork, but the strategy isn't much more complex than anything a 12 year old learns playing Madden games on the Playstation.

This isn't praising WoW I'm just saying praising the "skill" necessary for any game short of something like Go or Chess is absurd.


That must be why all of us are able to become professional football players.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

MaxxBot posted:

Only a very small percent of the population has the genetics required to get a body like that of a pro football player, even with all of the years of training.

And once you have that, you have to combine it with years of training, discipline and practice. You can't possibly compare it to a "skill" you hone while eating Cheeto's, watching BSG on t.v., and using trillian.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

WhaleFarmerJohn posted:

This can't be a serious post.

I just realized he's Lurkky. He's probably trolling.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

You spent four hours playing the guitar??
Oh yeah, it takes a lot of talent to study the Civil War :rolleyes:.
You wasted an hour cooking dinner when I just microwaved mine, lol.

Hey, two of those skills at least get you pussy.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

WhaleFarmerJohn posted:

Playing guitar and owning a microwave :confused:

No, you idiot. Playing the guitar and knowing more about the Civil War than the average guy.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

WhaleFarmerJohn posted:

I was just wondering. You see, I own this microwave.

Tell me more. ;-*

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

MaxxBot posted:

I was replying to someone who quoted my post...

He wasn't replying to you, I think he was using your post as a springboard for his.

geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Mayor Wilkins posted:


Seriously, I play City of Heroes sometimes. I'm good with my blaster, I can walk into any mission with any team and come out alive. I'm great with my mastermind in City of Villains, I can unleash my zombies into a huge mob and keep them alive with minimal effort. But you know what? That's not a measure of the person that I am, and I don't consider it to be. I can't take it seriously, and I can't imagine becoming obsessed with how efficiently I can use CEO Jesus to take down a red elite boss, and I don't expect anyone to honestly be excited if I do it.


Goon Squid has seriously ruined any other online gaming experience. It's much more fun playing with people who don't take anything about the game very seriously.

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geekygrrl
Apr 16, 2002

Mayor Wilkins posted:


P.S. SQUAD BRIDGET SQUAD sheesh

I was in Goon Squid, dude.