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S1nn3r, I'd like to hear more about the PC version to be sure it's the same as the 360 version. While there are a lot of timed missions, the open nature of the levels, plus the collection aspect of the energon cubes keeps me playing. The only timed missions that have been a problem for me have been the ones that force you to play as Scorponok, who's not only weak but fairly difficult to control. The game does nail the toughest aspect of making a Transformers game, which is that you have to make a game that does walking/shooting, driving, flying, and any other alt-mode hijinks well all at the same time. Works for me, especially since the alt-modes are far more useful in the new game than they ever were in the Armada game.
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g-c posted:How destructible is the city? How much carnage can you bring? Absolutely everything can be destroyed. You can't actually make a building collapse, but you can leave it as a burned out shell with just the framework standing. And you can't run over people, of course. Combat with other Transformers causes one hell of a mess.
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| # ¿ Jun 25, 2007 02:46 |
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g-c posted:It sounds like you don't really like it I like it fine. It's not going to be on my Game of the Year list or anything, but it's a hell of a lot better than S1NN3R makes it out to be. It's basically the DS game without the RPG elements and a lot bigger and louder.
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| # ¿ Jun 25, 2007 03:14 |
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S1nn3r posted:In each mission of the 360 version, there are 100 energon cubes to collect, five hidden faction symbols, and four sub-mission minigames. All of this unlocks bonus content of various sorts. I've found the driving to be about GTA level. Not fantastic, but certainly not bad. The mixerbots are definitely a challenge, but I haven't found them overly difficult to deal with. Sounds to me like the PC version got shafted.
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| # ¿ Jun 25, 2007 03:28 |
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dbaz posted:A new Promo Picture from the new cartoon series. This is absolutely the ugliest piece of Transformers art I have ever seen. Utterly horrid. I can't believe Hasbro is letting someone do this to the brand. Unless the toys miraculously turn out to be amazing, it looks like I'll be checking out of Transformers for a while starting next year.
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| # ¿ Jun 26, 2007 04:24 |
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HooverFan posted:http://well-of-souls.com/orbots/orbots.htm Same. Also: Retarded press release posted:The Hollywood Reporter says the plan is to give the robots "more human qualities" on the series, to allow for kids to better identify with them. Yeah, because when you have a brand that has endured for 24 years in multiple incarnations across three generations, clearly the kids are having problems identifying with the characters. Unbelievable.
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| # ¿ Jun 26, 2007 04:42 |
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Major nostalgia flashback. One of the gallery images you can unlock in the game is the full artwork that was originally used as four glow-in-the-dark posters included with boxed Transformers in the post-movie era. Each poster formed 1/4 of the total picture. One had Springer punching Galvatron into the foreground, one had Ultra Magnus charging at Trypticon and Bruticus. I don't fully remember what the image was when it glowed in the dark, though. Anyway, just a random thing that made me go "Whoa, I remember that!"
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| # ¿ Jun 26, 2007 07:22 |
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Yeah, sounds like you got a lemon, Raar. My Blackout does not resemble those remarks, although mine is not from the two-pack. On the subject of the game, I was so excited to finally play as Prime and...he does that stupid leap every time he transforms to robot mode, and it annoys the gently caress out of me. My favorite character to play in the game remains Starscream, especially with G1 colors activated.
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| # ¿ Jun 27, 2007 06:56 |
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I am down to ONE faction symbol left to get in the game, and I've been looking for it for hours (Hunt for Sam Witwicky). Driving me nuts, it is. At least G1 Optimus is pretty great, even if he doesn't make the old transforming sound.  For those about to see the movie, I salute you. And perhaps to reassure you, I already have tickets to see it a second and third time on Monday and Wednesday. If you're out for giant robots ripping poo poo up, you will not be disappointed.
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| # ¿ Jun 28, 2007 06:30 |
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Raar_Im_A_Dinosaur posted:I'll certainly try, since it will make buying mine easier, but its unsure whether I'm goin or whether they'll let me make off with two. Last year the limit on Nemesis Prime was one per person. You could always wait in line two days in a row, I suppose. It ain't just the production run that makes these suckers valuable, folks.
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| # ¿ Jun 28, 2007 21:44 |
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Remaining BotCon exclusives revealed. http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/BotCon07souvenirs.cfm Alpha Trion is pretty cool.
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| # ¿ Jun 28, 2007 22:40 |
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Nefud posted:I feel really bad for the dumbasses who bought the Takara version. It was always horribly flawed and I have no idea why anyone would pay actual money for a sea foam-colored Starscream. Those of us with a little patience are going to spend less money for something much better. I'm not right very often, it's feels soooo goooooooooood. Don't feel bad for me, I have an awesome figure while you have sour grapes. And I'll buy the Hasbro one, too. 
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That really is a beautiful piece of work on that Nemesis Prime. I wish Hasbro would use that silver on more of their stuff. That's exactly the color Megatron should have been, as opposed to the goofy white and blue we ended up with.
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| # ¿ Jun 29, 2007 20:54 |
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Nefud posted:How do I have sour grapes? I have bought like 5-10 Transformers for over $100, and if I wanted that thing I would've bought it ages ago. Only explanation I can come up with for calling those of us who did buy the Takara version "dumbasses."
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Nefud posted:Oh, come on, don't take that kind of thing personally. I'm not making an actual value judgement about your human worth, I just think easter-egg Starscream is silly looking. I understand that, but let's keep in mind that when we rip on people who bought Transformer X, we're ripping on people in this thread. I think nearly the entire Cybertron line isn't even worth the plastic it's made out of, but I'm certainly not going to call the people who buy them names. Also, "easter-egg"? I don't get it. A lot of the MP Starscream bashing is nonsensical to me. He's not green, he's a very dark blue. He does look green in some photos, but there's very little green to it in person. Even if the G1 colored Starscream had been announced day one alongside the Takara one, I would have bought the Takara one to have the Best Jet Transformer Ever Made in realistic colors. I might have a different viewpoint if mine had arrived broken, as some have reported happened with theirs, but I dodged that bullet. Now let's see Hasbro figure out a way to get Masterpiece Megatron out in the US.
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| # ¿ Jun 30, 2007 01:13 |
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Something about Ultimate Bumblebee just looks...off to me. For that much money, I'd rather have a really detailed, screen-accurate Transformer rather than a chunky RoboSapien ripoff.
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Yeah, I haven't really posted in many threads heavily before these TF ones because the ones I was interested in always devolved into Fark-style flamewars. I used to frequent the Games section, but I got out of the habit when it became nothing but "Let's play _____" threads and never really went back. I think simply floating about in GBS keeps the TF fans safely hidden in plain sight.
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| # ¿ Jun 30, 2007 01:32 |
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Sobek posted:Um, it has gone back because they herded all the Lets play threads in its own subforum. I know, what I wrote meant that after the Let's Play explosion, I never went back to the forum, not that the forum never went back to the way it used to be. Also, there's a ridiculous signal to noise ratio. It's like GameFAQs with punctuation. God, Energon Prime. The concept was so cool, but his regular robot mode looked so much like Homer Simpson that I could never bring myself to buy him.
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| # ¿ Jun 30, 2007 03:15 |
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If you're talking about Alternator Nemesis Prime, he was last year's San Diego Comic Con exclusive. Never sold in stores. Neither are most of the Alternators, from what I can tell. I have never seen an Alternator Optimus anywhere outside of a convention dealer room.
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| # ¿ Jun 30, 2007 19:17 |
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I'm in Los Angeles, so the pickings are generally slim unless you happen to show up right when the cases have been opened and put on the shelves. I've maybe seen a Meister or two, but Alternators are rare. 6" Titaniums even moreso, although I did find four Soundwaves at a TRU in Los Feliz once.
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| # ¿ Jun 30, 2007 21:18 |
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And Bluestreak, although Prowl gets the closeup.
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| # ¿ Jul 1, 2007 03:54 |
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I could have sworn a Prowl clone who isn't Prowl gets nailed in a long shot during the shuttle raid. Guess I need to watch it again.
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| # ¿ Jul 1, 2007 04:17 |
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From a BotCon panel on the new animated series: http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9226&sid= Transformers Animated stuff ------------------------------ Going to give us a sneak peak Better timeslot for TV show than with Energon and Cybertron Hasbro thinks that we shouldn't be worrying about things as much as we are. Worked very closely with Cartoon Network. People working on cartoon are big fans ... I got the impression that they are moreso than the folks at Hasbro Wanted to diversify, freshen things up. It's our new Cartoon series for 2008 Production has been brought back to US Writing Style ------------------------ Return to character development and story telling similar to BW. Action driven show - very fluid. Episodic but ties into an overall Seasonal Arc Smaller cast of Bots with signifciant character development for each individual character. Action driven with a dose of Humor. Major fcosu on personality and abilities Rich action sequences Familiar and New characters Human super-villains and Decepticon villains. Artistic Style ---------------------------- Highly stylized and fluid animation More energetic and expressive bots. Major focus on personality and abilities Grow from Mechanical to Emotive designs Familiar and New characters Realistic and Stylized transformations. 1 transformation is tasmanian devil styled. Will not be anime cut transformations. You will really see them transform Summary ---------------------- Set on Earth in the near future in Detroit, the alien Transformers are thrust into a world populated by humans and automatons. As visitors to Earth, the Transformers -- Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Prowl, Bulkhead and Ratchet -- work in the human world interacting with the 'natives' in exciting and humorous ways. Transformers Animated has been created to showcase the heroic Autobots working together to battle the evil Decepticons and save Earth with kid-relatable plot lines filled with humor, distinctive characters persaonalities and dynamic action. AUTOBOTS ---------------------------- Ratchet - season Autobot, legitimate combat, cybertronian version of the military, like the guy from Full Metal Jacket Ironhide will be like the Fantastic Four's Thing. Prowl is like a ninja. Grimlock is a T-REX!!! HUGE ROUND OF APPLAUSE!!! THERE WILL BE TWO OTHER DINOBOTS IN THE SHOW. They are 3 crazy dude. Grimlock looks awesome DECEPTICONS ------------------- Megatron is a gun in his Cybertronian mode. Starscream kind of resembles Cyclonus in jet mode. Has kind of like a Chris Latta voice Voiced by Tom Kenny We will be seeing most of the Transformers in their Cybertronian modes at the beginning of the series. Blitzwing is a triplechanger (tank, jet, robot) - looks f'in awesome!!! Kind of a new spin on his character, fun personality quirk: has a split personality Spinning face gimmick on the toy Lugnut (similar in body style to Bulkhead) If Bulkhead is like the Thing, then Lugnut is like the Incredible Hulk. Lugnut has missiles for hands, Jet of some sort BLACKARACHNIA!!! HUGE ROUND OF APPLAUSE Different origin story for BA than in BW. Starts out as a different character entirely, flashbacks, one of the more complicated Decepticons, you'll care more about her. HUMANS CHARACTERS ------------ Cpt. Fanzone - Police Chief Sari (girl) and her father Isaac Sumdac Sari's interaction with the Autobots is unlike her interaction in the past shows. It works out better. Not the typical human sidekick. Sari is an outcast. Looks to the Autobots for friendship. Human villians - "Angry Archer" (applause), NOT your typical run-of-the-mill Dr. Archeville character. Super villains ... OTHER STUFF ----------------------- The Autobots WILL have their Ark. It looks like a stylized G1 Ark. Crowd: Will there be a toy? No response from Hasbro. The Decepticons WILL have the Nemesis. Nemesis dwarfs the Ark. It's GIGANTIC. The Ark is about the size of one of the spikes on the Nemesis. Nemesis has a purple lighting and black interior. Ark had warm colors, circular, multi-level Showed us some shots of what Detroit looks like. Showed us a shot of the Sumdac Tower's interior. What will the toys look like? Toys developed at the same time as the animation designs. Animation style allows us to show more personality with each character. 90% animation/toy accuracy. Takara has really helped out with these designs. New sculpting style. No more full line gimmicks!!! WOO HOO! Big round of applause ... Transformation is the feature. Signature weapons and poses - attitude and stance. Range of motion is great! Allows for the characterization to stand out more. There are some things they won't be able to do because of joints and stuff. Accessories will transform? Convey a greater range of style with these characters. Wow ... just showed us what deluxe and Voyager Optimus Primes. Look awesome. The stylistic sculpting is there ... match up extremely well with the animated versions. Wow. Just wow! I wish you guys could see this. Deluxe Bumblebee and Voyager class Bulkhead - really staying faithful to animated look. Archer: can't thank Takara enough for their help with this line. Really paid off by working daily with Takara and Cartoon Network. Deluxe Prowl and Deluxe Ratchet All figures have great articulation. Artist rendition (3-D model) of Voyager Grimlock. Voyager Megatron and Starscream: Megatron is a vertical take off Cybertronian vehicle in this image. I'm confused with the gun mode drawing of him from earlier. Maybe the gun mode Megatron is his earth mode. Deluxe Blackarachnia looks great! Lugnut and Blitzwing pics ... The future ------------------------- Working on season 2 already. More familiar and new characters. Possibility of season 3 and 4. Desire to create brand new characters ... with cameos by G1 favorites. Toys will have a "matte" finish like Batman Animated. Marty Isenberg is on clip they show us. AllSpark looks like a Matrix/ Optimus has an axe. Megatron has a sword. The animation is really slick looking. Everyone is going to love this. Optimus Prime doese have a mouth and a face shield. The transforrmation of Optimus Prime looked really cool. My opinion has officially changed Optimus says: "transform and roll out." Opening audio is very cool: hip hop, rock type style. No transformation audio yet. The Optimus Prime axe is awesome. Showed us a space scene. Optimus pole-vaulted with an extended version of his axe. HUGE ROUND OF APPLAUSE. I must say, it makes me feel a lot better about the series, but it's going to be harder for me to get past this art style than the movie's designs. Good to know only one of the characters does the Tazmanian Devil transformation. And from a David Kaye panel discussion: http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9171&sid= David Kaye is a very busyman here at Botcon! I was able to listen in to his panel discussion this afternoon. This was only his 3rd of four for the entire weekend (not to mention autographs). He was extremely likable and funny. He did an off the cuff improvised 'Golf Outing' between BW Megatron, and the new Animated Optimus Prime. It was hilarious! "Autobots suck at golf, yes..." --BW Megatron "Megatron, where's my 5-iron?" --Animated Prime "I left it hidden back on the ship, dolt." --BW Megatron He also laid down the 'Rubber Ducky' Song for us in BW Megatron's voice. Now to the really interesting stuff about the animated cartoon that he shared: -This cartoon they are recording the voices together in the same room. -Appearing characters that he mentioned: Prowl (Jeff Dennis) Prime (David Kaye) Bumblebee (Bumper Robinson--'Chris Rock' like) Ultra Magnus (Jeff Dennis-- very Robert Stack-y) Arcee (Susan Blu reprisal?) Black Arachnia (Cree Summer) Grimlock (David Kaye --did a SNL Phil Hartman Frankenstien-y voice as an example) Lugnut (David Kaye) Starscream (Tom Kenney) Ratchet (Corey Burton) Shockwave (Corey Burton) Megatron (Corey Burton) Jazz (Phil LaMarr, of MadTV fame) Blurr (Reprised by John Moshita) Bulkhead (Bill Fagerbacky-- Patrick from Spongebob) -He said (without giving away story...although it sounds like at ComicCon all will be revealed), that there would be G1 things surfacing, and that the comedy would be back. -This series is scheduled to start in January 2008. He said they already wrapped up two seasons, 29 total episodes, I believe he said, and the special (if my notes are correct). Also, he did note that recording star music spoofer Weird Al Yankovic will be a guest on an episode, as a garbage truck TF (he thought he remembered that as the form).
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Yay for more Classics. Boo for no more Alternators/Binaltech. Three Ultra class Classics, eh? Wonder what those will end up being. Unbelievably kick-rear end Omega Supreme? Combiner teams with accurate vehicle modes? The Aerialbots are due for an upgrade, IMO. I just hope they don't waste the Ultras on more Prime and Megatron.
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| # ¿ Jul 1, 2007 22:00 |
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Brick Hardmeat posted:Classics Devastator. A LEGIT Classics Devastator. All 6 of them, realistic alt modes. Come on! That would probably be my first choice, but I just wonder if they'd do that after already putting out the crappy repaint version.
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| # ¿ Jul 1, 2007 22:43 |
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JohnThermos posted:I hope they release a new version. The Energon repaints were nice but I wouldn't mind an Ironhide more in line with the Classics style. I think they pretty much have to in order not to DEVALUE ANYONE'S PRECIOUS BOTCON EXCLUSIVES! I expect the Classics Ironhide/Ratchet will blow the BotCon version out of the water, so the Con folks can keep their exclusives on that front. As for the Seekers, it really is a shame that such prominent characters will be out of the vast majority of TF fans' grasp. Nothing to really be done about it now, though. I guess a lot of people will just have to take a crash course in repaints.
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| # ¿ Jul 2, 2007 00:23 |
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I would have liked to have seen Alternators/Binaltech branch out into classic cars or something like that. I think Ravage and Rumble show that there was still room for creativity in that line.
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| # ¿ Jul 2, 2007 00:33 |
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McSpanky posted:Since it looks like you didn't get the Classics Seekers for yourself, did you offer to buy a set for anyone else? GrimGypsy posted:The box set of exclusives, the clear Mirage exclusive, and the Huffer/Springer exclusive pack. All of which are great.
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| # ¿ Jul 2, 2007 01:45 |
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Pharaoh Dust posted:
Yup. That's my girl.
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| # ¿ Jul 2, 2007 05:12 |
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That's pretty awesome right there. With any luck, I'll have my own group shot to post soon.
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| # ¿ Jul 2, 2007 05:32 |
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On the subject of Blackout and his eccentric features, how exactly do you remove his rotors for use as swords? They don't seem to want to pop out, and I keep worrying I'll just snap one off.
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| # ¿ Jul 2, 2007 21:18 |
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A co-worker who just returned from BotCon reports that the scalping was fast and brutal. All the box sets were sold to pre-reg people, naturally, and many of them ended up on the dealer room floor the next day for $500+. He tried to buy Alpha Trion + Weirdwolf from a dealer and the guy was selling them for $500 EACH. When he offered a guy $200 for Huffer alone, he was simply laughed at. Springer was nowhere to be seen. Looks like this year's exclusives will be some of the most sought after Transformers of all time.
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| # ¿ Jul 2, 2007 23:52 |
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Granted, Transformers have always been a pretty high-value brand on the collecting market, but it's a shame to see the blatant scalping hit even BotCon. I can understand if a couple people sell off their exclusives to dealers and then those are resold, but my co-worker seemed to indicate that a lot of them simply registered and bought the exclusives with the intent of flipping them on the dealer floor the next day. I'm sure part of this is due to what the exclusives were this year, as last year a friend of mine was able to just walk up and pick up the boxed set for me, but even so, BotCon should probably institute the policies seen at ComiCon and other such conventions that prohibits dealers from selling that Con's exclusives on the floor.
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| # ¿ Jul 3, 2007 02:13 |
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Waryn posted:I was very tempted to wear my Optimus voice changer for shits and giggles, but the guy I cought a ride with said he'd kick me out the car if I brought it. And lacking a functioning car at the moment/dying to see a movie I've waiting forever for, it was a worthy sacrifice. But I still wore my autbot shirt! Take that! Saw it for the second time tonight, this time at the Arclight in Hollywood. Wore the Decepticon shirt above, and just about everyone asked where I got it. I expect ThinkGeek will be receiving some orders tonight. One guy asked why I had the Decepticon shirt on. I replied I liked the Decepticons better, and he seemed really confused by that.  Four of the Autobots were parked outside the theatre, surrounded by velvet rope. Bumblebee '08, Ironhide, Prime, and Ratchet. I was hoping Barricade would be there, but no dice. I'm going back to see it again Wednesday morning. I'll bring my camera and get some shots of them if they're still there. That GMC Topkick is gigantic. Everyone in my group liked it a lot, even the people who had no idea what a Decepticon was. It was universally agreed upon that the humans were overall pretty cringe-worthy, with the exception of Shia Lebouf, and the Transformers themselves were incredible. I think Dreamworks have themselves a hit.
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| # ¿ Jul 3, 2007 06:35 |
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Joe Fisto posted:Now, do I wait for this or do I buy the one out now? Yes. 
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| # ¿ Jul 4, 2007 03:41 |
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ShimSham posted:Mistransformation aside, I think Brawl just looks flatout awesome. I really wish he was Voyager class. If they were going to do a scale-accurate movie toy line, it would have to go: Supreme Blackout Starscream Leader Prime Megatron Brawl Bonecrusher Voyager Ratchet Ironhide Deluxe Scorponok Barricade Bumblebee Jazz Megatron could arguably be a Supreme, too, but he was actually a bit smaller than Starscream, judging by his height compared to Prime, then comparing Prime to Ironhide and Ratchet, who barely even come up to Starscream's upper arm in the fight at the end.
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| # ¿ Jul 4, 2007 04:04 |
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GrimGypsy posted:Something odd I noticed at Botcon: Probably a bit of both. I've noticed that once exclusive TF stuff gets phased out of whatever store it's exclusive to, secondary market prices jump like a mofo. For instance, I saw the War Within Megatron/Prime Titanium two-pack (TRU exclusive) at an anime store the other day, priced at $80. There's no possible way that's worth that much, but the perceived "OMG GONE FOREVER!" element can be a powerful motivator that can push someone to pay those prices. Most sought-after Transformers (except BotCon stuff) has a predictable pattern of secondary market value. It starts high, drops sharply as the product's availability becomes more widespread, spikes again after production ends, drops gradually for the next year or so, then rises slowly as the item's age and rarity increases. Most TFs will plateau fairly quickly after that (within a year), while some select pieces (the Takara book-style reissues, certain Alternators, the Leader classes) continue to escalate. I predict Soundwave will be one of the latter types, so effort taken to get hold of one for retail price (or lower, via TRU's website) will be well worth it. And if you really want to watch the life cycle of a TF rarity in action, keep tabs on the going prices for those Nike shoeformers for the next few years.
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| # ¿ Jul 4, 2007 08:51 |
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The stocking of any individual TRU seems to be almost random. I have literally never seen a Titanium TF in the nearest TRU. In fact, I didn't even know that two-pack existed until I saw it at that anime store the other day. I have never seen an Alternator at this TRU, either. They're relatively well-stocked on movie toys, but they never really even had the full Classics line. I'd love to know why Titaniums seemed to be so rare. Shipping weight? Box shape? Price? The last couple waves seem to have been near-mythical. I got all mine from BBTS, but I've never seen some of them in stores. Another collectibles store nearby has War Within Starscream for $40, and will pay that much for a Sunstorm or G1 Ultra Magnus.
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| # ¿ Jul 4, 2007 08:56 |
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Captain Invictus posted:Scuse me for being ignorant, but what does an average "summer blockbuster" make on the first opening nights? It's doing exceptionally well. Broke the previous Tuesday opening record (Pirates 2) by a large margin, and the holiday today and the weekend will probably push it over the top of profitability. I'd guess we'll be seeing at least two more Transformers films.
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I think Hasbro wins in that argument.
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