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Oh gently caress yes. Just saw a TF trailer on TV here advertising July 4th. So I go to the local theatre's website, to find out that they play it this saturday. Reserving my ticket right now. EDIT: Reservations made. The internet is pretty drat useful, and so's having a brand new cinema in your town. Smoke fucked around with this message at Jun 25, 2007 around 15:37 |
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The_Doctor posted:Transformers Toy Thread: loving twisty ties! Twisty-ties are there to keep them from escaping. Although it doesn't really make sense that the Real Gears have barely anything keeping them in while the Legends figures have four each. I tend to get rid of my twisty-ties with a wire cutter though, I tried untying them first(Even unpacked Unicron this way, and he's just covered in the stuff) but eventually it just gets annoying.
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| # ¿ Jun 25, 2007 16:03 |
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DrWorm posted:Target got Robo-vision Prime and a couple of Armada repaints as exclusives. Toys R Us got a different double-pack, that being Blackout and Scorpinok. Energon repaints, not Armada repaints(Note the lack of Minicons) The difference is that Energon figures are actually somewhat poseable. Armada's main flaw as a toyline is the pretty brickness of a lot of the figures, which is kinda a disappointment after BW, BM and RiD(Even though RiD had quite a bit of G1 and G2 stuff in it) Also, my movie reservation is being screwy. Guess it's time to call in tomorrow. At least the reservation appears to have gone through. Anyone want a review from me afterwards?
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| # ¿ Jun 25, 2007 19:51 |
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Looks like the movie toys are moving at a pretty nice rate over here, but I'm also already identifying shelfwarmers. I checked the store I went to last week again, they had a lot of Deluxe Barricade and Voyager Starscream sitting on the shelves. Other figures were gone completely though(Wreckage, Brawl, most of BB and Jazz who had one of each left) The Starscream:Ironhide ratio was 7:1. Also spotted a lonely movie Legends Megatron, while they also had Prime last week.
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| # ¿ Jun 26, 2007 13:26 |
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Revolver Bunker posted:I think it really depends on the store and where its located. The Walmart here in Renton has Brawl, Jazz, Bonecrusher, Ironhide and Ratchet as shelfwarmers; while the Target I sent to yesterday only had Brawl, Blackout and Ironhide left. The Fred Meyers I went to had Swindle, Starscream, Bonecrusher and Brawl left. Either way it seems Brawl is getting the short end of the stick here. Hopefully a Voyager Brawl will help out the little guy. Leader Brawl. Don't underestimate him(He better get some good shoulders though) Anyway, it's pretty consistent with what I've seen at another store so far, where it's also Barricade and Starscream warming up shelves(And no Ratchet or Blackout in sight) In other news: I spotted a few DVDs with G1 episodes on 'em today, mainly season 1 stuff. However, the art used on the box was from Armada. Making sure you have the right line is apparently difficult. There were also BW Season 1 DVDs out, which are pretty much aimed at the movie crowd(Using the same 'Transformers' logo, using the tagline "Their world. A new war." which is stylistically similar to the movie one)
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| # ¿ Jun 26, 2007 17:50 |
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Baxta posted:Woot! My girlfriend got me Optimus. Little tip for his smokestack gun: There's a part inside each half that folds out to beef it up a bit more. It's quite easy to miss, since in typical Hasbro instruction style it's not even mentioned. I'm still excited for the movie on saturday, I have to call in and check my reservation though since the theater's site is screwy as gently caress(And I already got two people to come and watch it)
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| # ¿ Jun 27, 2007 09:57 |
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Rumble just arrived from Hong Kong. Packed in a fairly weird way in a small box with a piece of string around it, the box wasn't even taped shut or anything. I'm used to the classic pieces of styrofoam with green wrapping paper around it. However, he arrived in perfect condition, even the bubble dome isn't in any way damaged. Pictures will follow soon.
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| # ¿ Jun 28, 2007 14:53 |
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Rumble pictures and a slight review for those of you who haven't gotten him yet. Boxed in vehicle mode, just like every other Alt.  Once he's out of the box he looks pretty neat. The material quality's good, there's no swirls going on and there's a relatively low amount of seams. So far he's a pretty standard Alternator.  And just like almost all the others the doors and hood open, and his trunk opens as well. Nice vacuum metallized engine under the hood too. There's a similar but smaller part in the trunk. This is a bit weird but plays a part later on.  Personalized license plate, this one's from Hawaii. Also nice are the small touches like visible speakers in the back.  Robot mode. He's a bit shorter than the others, but the huge shoulders make him kinda stand out. The tape-style chest is a nice G1 reference, and it's pretty detailed overall. His piledrivers use a small spring-loaded button system, so they can pop out and work as advertised(Working piledrivers!) No hands or arms to speak of though. Also, the engine turns into one of the cannons on his back(They clip on), and so does the part that came in the trunk.  And here he is on the Decepticon shelf together with his buddies. You can see the lack of room I'm dealing with here. The Autobot shelf below is laid out pretty much the same, with similar numbers, bit there's a bit more room there because they don't have to deal with Nemesis Prime or Ravage's robot mode(Which both take up quite a bit of room) Mini-review! Most of my comments on everything are included above already, but there's still a few things I haven't commented on. Transformation: Fairly simple, the instructions are clear for a change and don't miss anything. All you basically do is open the doors and hood, fold down the hood to form the legs and flip out the feet, then turn him over and split the rear of the car in half for the arms. Finish by moving the remaining parts into place. Looks: Nice and detailed in both modes, material choice is good and so's the paintjob. There's no obvious construction or quality issues other than some slight paint overspray in spots. The bad parts: Limited arm articulation because of the piledrivers, no arms or hands to speak of. The good parts: He's got everything your average Alt has, including steering, which is a nice change after Ravage being fairly limited to just having doors that open. All the tiny details turn him into a cool addition to the Alt line, and his lower body poses as well as the others. The clip-on guns are a neat addition as well. I'm not the type to give out scores, but I will say that I recommend him to fill out your Decepticon ranks. Rei_ posted:What is a Scout class anyway? I know Deluxe come in blister-packs and Voyagers come in boxes, and then Leaders come in boxes made specifically FOR their size.. But I'm not certain what the hell a Scout is supposed to be. The Scout class is the class that's smaller than Deluxe in size, but above Legends and Minicon. The Real Gear bots are Scout-class figures, and they tend to come in blister packs. Size classes define the MSRP of an item, as well as the size and complexity, and can also influence the amount of paint apps on a figure. Deluxes and below are carded, Voyagers and above are boxed. In some cases they also define what mode a toy is packed in. The size/class guide is kinda like this: Legends > Minicon > Scout > Deluxe > Voyager > Ultra > Leader > Supreme This line doesn't have any Minicons, Ultras or Supremes so far though. http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Size_class More on size classes going back to Beast Wars there, as well as the name schemes used then. These are also normally used to refer to a specific version of a character(Supercon Prime for example refers to the smaller Armada Optimus Prime, who came with Over-Run as minicon, was pretty poseable for his time and was later on recolored quite a bit) Smoke fucked around with this message at Jun 28, 2007 around 17:09 |
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The Rage posted:That Rumble looks awesome. Unless someone can find one for me at their Wal-Mart, I might have to break down and buy him from BBTS. I got mine off eBay for a fairly reasonable price. Might be worth it to look there first as a lot of Hong Kong sellers are almost dumping some products onto the market(Even with their high shipping rates) Blueshift posted:Woolworths has got Real Gear stuff. I got the binoculers and camera, they're really awesome. What are the phone and game console like? The phone's pretty neat, but his head takes a while to get used to. I tend to display him with the face flaps cloned for a better drone look. Poseability is decent, with most of the articulation lying in the arms. Head motion is limited due to the phone's top part being attached to it though. The game console's small in alt mode, but makes for a great robot. He's got a 2-step transformation(literally) due to use of automorph and is quite poseable, even with the huge feet.
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| # ¿ Jun 28, 2007 19:13 |
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Is that Leader Brawl I see there in the Osprey/Evac pic? He looks pretty cool.
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| # ¿ Jun 29, 2007 15:59 |
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arioch posted:There are small differences between the various releases but the essential model is the same: The DVD Prime with the base doesn't have the battle damage, but has a somewhat brighter and more flat paintjob than the MP(Along with the other paintjob changes, which include more yellow too) The changed communicator stickers are also the same as those on MP-04(The one with the trailer) Color variations on the big gun: First release of 20th Anniv Op has the silver gun like the Japanese version, later releases had a black gun. DVD Prime's got a blue, silver and yellow gun. There's a good comparison shot here: http://www.seibertron.com/toys/full...ize=1&image=155 Rest of the gallery has more pics comparing the versions.
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| # ¿ Jun 29, 2007 23:02 |
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Brick Hardmeat posted:Once every page this is mentioned. I think it's just a really poorly made toy, and noone's posted a fix (that I've seen) yet. It's a manufacturing flaw that causes it, and a fixed version is already in circulation. It's just the first batch that has the problem. There's a way to avoid the issue from popping up though, if you follow the instructions and push down the button to release the hood, it should stay functional. Mine's got the flaw, but transforms like it should and stays in place in vehicle mode. Also, Armada Prime is only cool when you don't try to do anything with him in Super mode beyond posing his arms. He suffers from being a pretty brick too much, and I really wonder who designed him like that. Then again, Armada was done by a then new and fresh design team that was still learning how Transformers worked.
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| # ¿ Jun 30, 2007 15:22 |
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I've got my Armada Prime standing around with Energon Ultra Magnus(Armada Overload repaint) on him, as well as the three Minicon weapons, and his regular guns attached to UM. I'm considering getting a Jetfire just for the WTFness though, but I'm also afraid I'd get size issues(Right now the combination just barely fits on my shelf) And in my Bumblebee picture I used Prime's superpants with UM attached to them(This works somehow, he can clip onto there) as well as some other weapons. The only advantage the superpants offer is that they're stable as a rock. RiD Omega Prime tends to be a bit unstable when you try to pose him. Also, in 2 hours I'm gonna go see the movie 
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| # ¿ Jun 30, 2007 17:26 |
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Captain Rufus posted:Yeah, Jazz is one of the best Alts. Not too much actually. I've got a European Prime and a Japanese God Magnus, and the sound stuff for the combination is all from Magnus because his button's the only accessible one. There's a soundclip where the combination announces its name, and a line for all three weapon combos with sound effects. Prime himself just says "Optimus Prime, Maximize!", "Autobots, transform!" and siren sounds, while the lights flash. Magnus just says "God Magnus, transform!" and has a clip for each of the weapon combinations. Also, I saw the movie a few hours ago and it loving kicks rear end. Great effects, the plot is limited but it works, and there's quite a bit of humor in it too(The Autobots hiding in the backyard, Bumblebee's lubricant, Sam's comments to Mikaela, Ratchet's pheromone comment) I'll buy it the moment it comes out on DVD. And even the Dutch subtitles include the "Devastator" error but his name is only mentioned once anyway. I did notice that Decepticons die a bit too easy, and the faction names could have been explained a bit better(Autonomous robots = Autobots, Decepticons = ???) The only sucky thing I saw is that the Dutch subs are pure white, with no outlines. Which makes them half-unreadable in some scenes because of the white backgrounds. Smoke fucked around with this message at Jul 1, 2007 around 02:54 |
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Some more Botcon 2007 news: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139268 Also contains news on the toylines. The non-show toyline will be renamed to Transformers Universe. Classics WILL return with new molds in Deluxe(4-8) and Ultra(3) size classes. Prowl as a police car, then Silverstreak and Smokescreen maybe, Ironhide, probably Ratchet eventually. Remaining Titaniums might move over to Classics(This means Cosmos, poor guy keeps switching lines) Classics is also going to focus on realistic vehicles rather than all sorts of things, which means there won't be more Dinobots. Unfortunately, there appears to be some confusion in that thread since it mixes Classics and the new showline. And even more unfortunately: Tooling dollars in Alts and metal parts on Tits weren't getting the return, so they decided to focus on Classics for collectors. No more Alternators, Ravage and Rumble are the final ones  .Unless Japan decides to continue with Kiss Players, but I pretty much doubt it since Alts primarily came from Hasbro.
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| # ¿ Jul 1, 2007 21:02 |
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Rhyno posted:Here's hoping more classics means mass-market seekers. Sadly, it doesn't. The Botcon set stays an exclusive, apparently because releasing any of it at retail would "devalue what people have paid for the set", and because they didn't know Classics would return when the set was greenlit.
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| # ¿ Jul 1, 2007 23:27 |
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I wish I could get a cheap Soundwave here in Europe . I never even owned the original one.
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| # ¿ Jul 3, 2007 15:51 |
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Pharaoh Dust posted:Smoke: IF I able to find any, do you want one? It'll be a little pricier since you're in Europe, but if you want me to look for you, I can. Sure! My only payment method is Paypal with a creditcard though, so I hope that's okay on your side. I'm used to stuff being a little pricier over here, and it's not as bad as it could be considering the value of the Euro at the moment.
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| # ¿ Jul 3, 2007 16:33 |
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Pharaoh Dust posted:Well.... gently caress. So it turns out I have even less money than I thought. i.e, none. I didn't find this out until now, I am so very sorry to Smoke and Sigma for giving you a glimmer of hope. As it turns out, I can't even go look for a Soundwave for me. Ah, don't worry about it. I'd still like to obtain a Soundwave though, big-chested or not. Prices on eBay over here suffer from serious scalping or unrealistically high shipping costs(And not just for Soundwave) If anyone's willing to send one over, let me know! Also, that Leader Brawl looks pretty cool, even if he is mistransformed. Vintersorg posted:Whats the difference? A metal body? Not just that. Binaltechs also come with display stands and trading cards with specs, the boxes are smaller and easier to open, and they tend to be painted entirely as opposed to molded in that color with extra paint apps for detail, resulting in better color consistency and an overall nicer look. Not to mention the often superior paint quality(Meister and Laserwave/Shockblast are the best examples of this) and extra detailing(Grimlock and Wheeljack have vacuum metallized engines rather than silver plastic, side mirrors are usually reflective) The use of diecast is limited to select parts, but it does add quite a bit of weight that feels nice to hold. It also affects poseability a bit due to weight distribution, and joints can wear a bit faster because of extra stress though.
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| # ¿ Jul 4, 2007 08:49 |
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Keldroc posted:The stocking of any individual TRU seems to be almost random. I have literally never seen a Titanium TF in the nearest TRU. In fact, I didn't even know that two-pack existed until I saw it at that anime store the other day. I have never seen an Alternator at this TRU, either. They're relatively well-stocked on movie toys, but they never really even had the full Classics line. Lack of sales resulting in stores not willing to pay to have them in stock. It didn't help that the first few Tits were pretty asstastic in quality(And design, such as the 3" amazing pooping robots) from what I've heard. And it's also the reason the line's now over.
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| # ¿ Jul 4, 2007 09:23 |
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I picked up three of the Cybertron Mini-con two-packs today, as well as three more Movie Legends figures. The Mini-con sets are repaints from the Energon Saber Team and Emergency Team. Overall pretty neat, but in a few cases they suffered a bit from mold degradation. As for the Legends figures, I got Optimus Prime, Megatron and Barricade. As usual they're just tiny Transformers with simplistic transformations, but overall pretty nice. Megatron's head is on a balljoint and he's got a cool paintjob, his robot mode is pretty much just him lying on his back with his legs spread and his arms up in the air(And a nosecone that's normally on his back) His arms and head are made of a softer rubbery plastic for some reason. Paint apps are black, silver and gold fairly evenly distributed over the body along with red eyes, and the molding's quite detailed(You can almost see the teeth) Prime's vehicle mode is quite similar to his Leader form, only with less detail(Of course), but he gets to keep the flames. His robot mode slightly suffers at the arms since those form the cab and sleeper section of the truck, while the bottom half forms the legs. He gains a slight monkey look from it, the hands are turned in. His paint apps are limited to blue and gold flames on the truck sides, silver grille, silver on the truck roof, red and silver on his chest, and silver on his faceplate. Barricade is the coolest of the batch. His police car mode has no compromises at all(Unlike Jazz with the grill-chest that ends up on the roof, or Ratchet whose rear end is open), he's got a limited but fancy paintjob(White doors with Police in silver on them, Police is also in silver on his spoiler, his hood has a silver Decepticon symbol on it, and the lights on the roof, as well as the car lights, are painted) and his robot mode is very similar to the fullsize one. The main difference is that his knees are formed by the rear of the car. In robot mode his hands are also painted in a metallic light blue, his face has silver coloring on it and red eyes. The way he stands is also quite similar to his Deluxe version. He even has an undocumented feature: The front grill folds down similar to the Deluxe version. Overall, the Legends toys are quite neat for their size, even given the limited movement ranges they have.
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| # ¿ Jul 4, 2007 15:17 |
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Some more Barricade stuff: His remains are visible in the scene where they're disposing of the other Decepticons. I'm guessing the scene where Prime kills him was cut for time, and hopefully the DVD release will contain it and other possibly deleted scenes.
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| # ¿ Jul 4, 2007 19:39 |
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Keldroc posted:I would recommend the Japanese Masterpiece Convoy (the Japanese name for Optimus) over the American releases, simply due to the more accurate smokestacks and superior paint job. The US releases have a brighter cartoonier red and cheesy "battle damage" scorch marks that I really dislike. Battle damage is only on the 20th Anniv Prime release, which has the same color choices as the Japanese MP-01. DVD Prime(The later release in a Classics-style box) has the brighter color scheme and added yellow, as well as a lack of chrome, painted feet rather than transparent parts, and a silver/blue/yellow abomination of a gun. And while we're recommending Primes, I can actually recommend the Classics Deluxe Optimus Prime(2-pack with Deluxe tank-form Megatron) purely for his robot mode. His truck mode is oddly proportioned, but his robot mode is more G1 than Voyager Prime and he's got no doors on his arms. Also, tank Megatron is quite cool in tank mode, once you fix the feet. Have a list of all the G1 Primes ever: http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys
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| # ¿ Jul 5, 2007 09:25 |
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Revolver Bunker posted:My one gripe about that figure is that in alt mode you can see his head lowered into the truck. It's something that's been affecting pretty much all the recent Primes(And even some older ones, like RiD Prime's Super Robot Mode head hanging out on his rear end). Including a small lid like even the G1 Prime has is too difficult I guess.
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| # ¿ Jul 5, 2007 17:12 |
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Revolver Bunker posted:So is he safe to get then, even with his defective automorph? Provided you're careful and follow the instructions, as well as press the button, there's no risk.
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| # ¿ Jul 5, 2007 19:20 |
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Dies Irae posted:
If Sigma-X wants it, I'll wait for the next opportunity. Otherwise, you'll have to go and find out how much shipping is to The Netherlands, and accept Paypal from a creditcard as payment(Mentioning this because I've had people on eBay bitch at me for the extra cost involving accepting creditcards) I don't have a set limit on how much I'm willing to pay(because it'll inevitably be cheaper than getting one off eBay)
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| # ¿ Jul 5, 2007 21:54 |
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Speaking of Barricade, not only is the Deluxe version totally worth getting, the Legends version isn't too shabby either. Even though he's tiny, he's only $5 and similar to the Deluxe version in transformation, pose and looks. I know I've mentioned him before, but the awesomeness of tiny Transformers is worth mentioning again. I'll post a few pics when I'm home of all the Legends guys I have so far.
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| # ¿ Jul 6, 2007 08:33 |
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JohnThermos posted:Strangely enough, the legends are the guys I am having the most trouble finding. They seem to have gotten cleaned out pretty quick. Going to have to wait for a restock. I guess that's just because they're cheap and still pretty cool, a lot of parents must be buying them for their kids in bunches as opposed to getting the bigger and more expensive figures. Over here they also move at a pretty decent speed, but since there's not too much interest in TFs in my area I'm still able to find everything quite easily(Except for Voyager Ratchet and Blackout and Deluxe Bonecrusher, I want my heliscorpocopter of doom and my neon green Hummer damnit)
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| # ¿ Jul 6, 2007 10:31 |
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Legends picture time! First we've got the Autobots in vehicle mode, front and back:   And then they transform into robot mode.  Note that Jazz actually has hands this time around, while Prime's colorscheme is a weird inversion of his G1 style. Next up are the Decepticons, in vehicle mode, front and back:   And in robot mode:  They have tiny evil stares  You should be able to figure out how they transform from these pics too, and the instruction set is included on the card back. EDIT: Bonus size comparison picture:  Hot Prime on Prime action. As far as scale goes, Tinymus Prime is actually the smallest of all the Legends figures so far. Still, he's got quite a bit of sculpted detail matching his big brother as you can see. Smoke fucked around with this message at Jul 6, 2007 around 13:35 |
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Rhyno posted:That would be pretty drat easy. They could just remold Primus slightly and slap a new head on there. Or just do a headswap with the SWTF Death Star, and a bit of paint.
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| # ¿ Jul 6, 2007 19:20 |
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The problem I've got with Barricade is that his punching gimmick doesn't work like it should. Seems like the assembly used to trigger it is either sculpted wrong or assembled wrong, because it barely ever works unless I kinda force it. No problems with the chest detaching from the waist either, I guess it depends on how much force you use to push it in. And in vehicle mode his rear parts don't aling up perfectly unless you fiddle a lot with the legs. He's still awesome though, both in Deluxe and Legends form. Maybe because he's an evil cop car and I'm too used to the good guys getting cop cars.
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| # ¿ Jul 7, 2007 21:39 |
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Dies Irae posted:Ah! Sorry, didn't see the PM since I never visit the forum main page, and I never got a pop-up notice about the PM. Messaged you back. Dibs called on my one extra, no more Soundwaves. Ah, okay. Anyone else willing to find me a Soundwave at a reasonable price?
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| # ¿ Jul 8, 2007 02:52 |
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MissileWaster posted:I actually liked Armada. I hadn't realised that they continued the series into Cybertron/Energon (whichever one was after Armada) until about half-way through a season, so I just didn't bother watching those two. They sound like they sucked anyway. Armada took some time to actually get moving though, the slow speed at the beginning bugged me a lot(When it was all "Hey this is today's Minicon we must find him! Oh no Decepticons! Oh yay we won!") It was quite decent overall, but I'd have liked to see a scene introducing Overload, as well as much less translation issues. I've gotten started on Energon, which also looks decent so far. Never seen Cybertron, but I do plan to watch it as well just for completionist reasons. Then all I'll need will be good rips of RiD. I saw most of the series on TV a few years ago, and a few random episodes more recently.
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| # ¿ Jul 8, 2007 12:22 |
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That metal dude: Are you planning to keep both Soundwaves? I'm still looking here(And still in The Netherlands)
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| # ¿ Jul 8, 2007 22:43 |
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catch22 posted:Classics Cliffjumper is a straight repaint of Bumblebee. Sunstreaker and Sideswipe will have different heads, like you said, and I've heard that Sunstreaker will transform differently so he has a different chest than Sideswipe. Apparently it'll be a chest that can transform in two distinctive ways, which opens up a bit of fun for fan-repaints. I'd actually like to see a bit more of this in TFs, especially if the multiple paths are both referenced in the instructions.
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| # ¿ Jul 9, 2007 07:52 |
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Now this is an interesting read: http://pingmag.jp/2007/06/29/transformers/ One of the Classics designers comments on his work, and why certain figures look the way they do(Bumblebee's a kid with sneakers and a hoodie, Mirage wears bell bottoms)
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| # ¿ Jul 9, 2007 11:48 |
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Hagetaka posted:So.......... I'd be happy with just one Soundwave. gently caress Dutch eBay prices right up the rear end.
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| # ¿ Jul 9, 2007 15:22 |
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Blueshift posted:But yeah, I agree. People moan when toys are G1-esque (hello Armada Overload), they moan when they are not G1 like enough. They moan when they dont' have diecast, they moan when they DO have diecast (hello Titaniums!) Don't forget whining about color choice or overall figure style. Everything that's not black and grey uses cheap neon colors, everything that's even slightly SD is cutesy and kiddified. I have to refer to David Willis(Walky) here for doing a pretty awesome comic regarding G1 Predaking. Neon and SD, but still seen as the most awesome TF combiner group ever by a large amount of fans, usually the same ones that complain about new figures. Fanboys tend to be loving hilarious.
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| # ¿ Jul 10, 2007 00:01 |
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The_Doctor posted:Ah, how it should have been. Something that basically amounts to a shellformer with no way of having a real interior in car mode, a stuttering transformation and quite possibly no good way to move fluently? The movie designs might be considered ugly, but at least they can move realistically.
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The Rage posted:So I don't get it, if the hype about Rodimus from this years SDCC is any indicator about how much people like the Alternators, why are they stopping the line? Apparently they're going to release him for general sale in Malaysia as another avenue for people to get ahold of them. It's a line that's popular among collectors, not as much among the general public. The costs are also comparably high, with the license and somewhat more intricate design than your average TF. Besides, maybe Takara will continue Kiss Players.
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