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Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Thank you x1,000,000 for doing this. Sakura Taisen is one of my favorite series, but ironically enough, I know the least about the actual games.

Also, I vote for Kanna. I vote for Kanna five times.

In response to a much earlier question about whether or not the set ever came crashing down in one of the live shows, the answer is yes, sort of.

During a rehearsal, Sakura bumps into Sumire, who overreacts and knocks over a huge pillar and pretends to have twisted her ankle. :jerkbag: Kanna strides over and sets the (supposedly very heavy) pillar upright again. This is hilarious because in real life, the woman who plays her is all of 4'10". (Although, to watch her on stage, sometimes you wouldn't realize it.)

Later on, Kanna offers to help Sumire up to her room:

Kanna: Just throw your arm around my neck and lean on me.
Sumire: ...is this really all right?
Kanna: Sure! After all, I'm two meters tall! :D

Sumire practically has to duck-walk off the stage in order to "lean" on Kanna. The live shows are full of jokes about the discrepancies between the heights of the characters and the heights of the actors. Not only is "Kanna" the shortest cast member, but "Iris" is one of—if not the—tallest, which is demonstrated to great effect in this clip.

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Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Morgenthau posted:

How I wish it was...

I CAN"T STOP MY HANDS THEY ARE MOVING ON THEIR OWN

...TOWARDS THE BATH HOUSE

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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ManSedan posted:

Lately I've been tempted to change my vote to Koran, but... vast tracts of land. My vote remains Sumire.

Kanna's land tracts are vaster. :colbert:

...unless you weren't making the usual joke and meant the actual real estate owned by the Kanzaki family.

In which case, um...Kanna has a dojo in Okinawa. :colbert:

Notgothic posted:

I'm a big Kanna fan, but I think I'll vote Sumire because I want to see if it's even possible for her to be a nice person.

It isn't.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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wdarkk posted:

THAT would be really something. From reading this game, it might well deliver though.

"The Thunder God is coming to steal my navel!" :cry:

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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The characters are approximately the following ages when the game begins, in April of 1923:
:mmmhmm:
1899/07/31 - Fujieda Ayame (23)
1900/04/14 - Fujii Kasumi (22)
1902/05/20 - Sakakibara Yuri (20)
1903/06/19 - Maria Tachibana (19)
1903/09/07 - Kirishima Kanna (19)
:cop: :pedo:
1905/07/28 - Shinguji Sakura (17)
1906/03/03 - Li Kouran (17)
1907/01/08 - Kanzaki Sumire (16)
1907/12/25 - Takamura Tsubaki (15)
:cthulhu: :pedo:
1913/07/05 - Iris Chateaubriand (9)

And, for the sake of completion:
:geno:
1861/04/01 - Yoneda Ikki (62)
1903/01/03 - Ohgami Ichirou (20)

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Actually, the upcoming Sakura Taisen game for the DS takes place in the 18th year of the "Taisho" era—that's 1929 to us. Assuming the game starts in April, the characters are "currently" the following ages. Let's see who got legal! :pervert:

* Characters from Sakura Taisen 2, 3, 4, and V have been included under spoiler tags.

:iiam:
STV - ????/05/09 - Kujou Subaru (??)

:raise:
ST3 - 1879/10/25 - Isabel "Grand Mère" Lilac (49)

:mmmhmm:
1900/04/14 - Fujii Kasumi (28)
ST2 - 1901/10/21 - Fujieda Kaede (27)
1902/05/20 - Sakakibara Yuri (26)
1903/06/19 - Maria Tachibana (25)
1903/09/07 - Kirishima Kanna (25)
1905/07/28 - Shinguji Sakura (23)
ST3 - 1905/11/13 - Lobelia Carlini (23)
1906/03/03 - Li Kouran (23)
ST3 - 1906/06/01 - Mell Raison (22)
STV - 1906/06/23 - Lachette Altair (22)
STV - 1906/11/24 - Plum Spaniel (22)
STV - 1906/12/06 - Sagitta Weinberg (22)
1907/01/08 - Kanzaki Sumire (22)
ST2 - 1907/07/07 - Soletta Orihime (21)
1907/12/25 - Takamura Tsubaki (21)
ST3 - 1908/05/22 - Kitaooji Hanabi (20)
STV - 1909/01/12 - Diana Caprice (20)
ST3 - 1909/02/04 - Ci Caprice (20)
ST3 - 1909/04/18 - Glycine Bleumer (19)
ST3 - 1909/08/15 - Erica Fontaine (19)
ST2 - 1909/12/24 - Leni Milchstraße (19)

:cop: :pedo:
STV - 1911/04/27 - Anri Yoshino (17)
STV - 1911/06/21 - Gemini Sunrise (17)
1913/07/05 - Iris Chateaubriand (15)
ST3 - 1914/10/10 - Coquelicot (14)

:ese: :gonk:
STV - 1917/04/02 - Rikaritta Aries (11)

:geno:
1861/04/01 - Yoneda Ikki (68)
STV - 1893/10/18 - Michael Sunnyside (35)
ST2 - 1902/11/11 - Kayama Yuuichi (26)
1903/01/03 - Ohgami Ichirou (26)
STV - 1908/04/20 - Taiga Shinjirou (20)

:bigtran:
ST2 - 1888/08/08 - Ohta Yokihiko (40)
ST2 - 1895/12/04 - Seiryuuin Kotone (33)
ST2 - 1906/02/14 - Oka Kikunojou (23)

:neckbeard:

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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LaserShark posted:

...I have to say, morbid curiosity makes me want to see what Iris looks like at 15.

Spirit Armor posted:

Well, according to one or two screenshots that I've seen, she looks pretty much, oh, you know, EXACTLY THE loving SAME thanks to recycled character sprites. :cry:

SPOILER: Iris at 15. :effort:

And her profile, from the website:
Birthdate: July 5, 1913
Height: 121 cm [3'11½"]
Weight: 26 kg [57 lbs]
Blood Type: AB
Sign: Cancer
Birthplace: Champagne, France

Her real name is Iris [pronounced "ee-rees"] Chateaubriand. She is the daughter of a wealthy French family. Because her spiritual power level is so high, she had a sheltered upbringing. Naive and gentle, she is never seen without her stuffed bear Jean-Paul.


So, since the first game, she's grown a whopping two inches.

...sweet merciful Christ, is she using her spiritual power to stay nine years old forever? :cry:

Although, in one of the games, we see what she'll eventually look like as an adult, at age 20.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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TapamN posted:

I thing worth mentioning is that I skipped a... easter egg deadly land mine in one of the minigames. It's in Iris' minigame. I hope I don't need to elaborate. You should all be thanking me for not subjecting you to it.

Ah, I think I see it. The bunnygirl costume, right?

I'm 85% sure someone linked to this site already, but there's a similar, fan-made flash game with Maria.

The costumes take a turn for the :nws: later in the game.



However, they take a turn for the :nms: from the get-go.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Spirit Armor posted:

... wait, there's a third choice:



...

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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TapamN posted:

If only that was it. The thing I was talking about is far, far worse.

Keep in mind the phrase, "Curiosity killed the cat."

Great, now I have to know what it is.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Still voting Kanna, because a vote for Kanna is a vote for Ohgami getting punched in the balls.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Cha posted:

No amount of shark-kicking is worth people looking at your girlfriend and doing a double-take because they think she's a man

At any rate, they'll never mistake you for a man.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Revenant Threshold posted:

Ayame dies?

Long story short, yes. In the second game, Fujieda Kaede, Ayame's younger sister, assumes the role of Vice-Commander. Both characters are played by Orikasa Ai.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Furikku posted:

Sumire's are bigger proportionally, AND she shows them off more. Clearly, Sumire is the superior boobs-vote.

Also, Sumire is cute when she blushes.

...has Kanna even blushed, ever?

Hiridion posted:

:swoon:



:swoon: :swoon: :swoon:

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Adahn1986 posted:

I bet the only reason they look bigger than Sumire's is because she's got enormous pectoral muscles behind them. A vote for Kanna is a vote for a thin layer of delicious squishiness padding her enormous man-muscles.

You lie.



:colbert:

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Spirit Armor posted:

Just try not to think about that last choice.

I want to know what happens if you ask whether Kanna will be wearing a swimsuit. :swoon:

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Spirit Armor posted:

I'm assuming that at the time, the writers of the game couldn't have guessed that their one-shot game would become a long-running series that would drag the gameverse out for a number of years.

Heck, that's probably what they'd INTENDED Iris to look like when she grew up, at least until they realized that the Flower Division would lack a loli character if that happened. :gonk:

Either that or she is going to have one hell of a growth spurt in the next five years. I think Iris is supposed to be 20 years old in her dream sequence, since 20 is the coming-of-age year in Japan.

Iris, age 15.


Iris, age 20(?).


I wish they'd updated the character designs just a little bit for the DS game. Not to mention that everyone's been wearing the same clothes for the past five years.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Schadenfraulein fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Mar 16, 2008

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Spirit Armor posted:

Given how drat meta the whole live-action thing is (which I've mentioned time and time again)... yeah, I don't know, either.

It's still bizarre to hear these very same voices-- voices which we're used to hearing from animated characters-- coming out of the mouths of the actors on stage. Even more so when they're accompanied by the props from their in-game final attacks. :gonk:

Sounds like a request to me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owiqecxgprw

Turn-based stage combat? You're welcome. :iamafag:

(Incidentally, this clip features two new characters from the sequel. Beware spoilers.) :ssh:

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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CannonFodder posted:

So is Ogami the name for a manly flower, like dandilion or snapdragon?

No, Ogami (大神) literally means "great god" or "great spirit." It can also be the name of a place, such as Omiwa Shrine (大神神社) or Oga Station (大神駅). Ogami also sounds like ookami (狼) or "wolf," and I think some of Ogami's attacks make reference to this.

Ogami's given name, Ichiro (一郎), is a name given to first-born sons, as that is exactly what it means.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Dash Magnum posted:

EDIT: (If I remember right, Maria was Tripitaka. I think Sumire is supposed to be a Moth-Demon that they have to fight or something. And if memory serves they ended up casting Sakura and Iris as Pigsy and Sandy respectively...Hooray for Journey to the West!)

You remembered correctly! In the original staging of Saiyuki, Kanna plays Son Gokuu, Sumire plays the villainous Madame Youki, Maria plays Sanzou-houshi, Sakura plays Cho Hakkai, Iris plays Sa Gojou, and Kouran plays Kinkaku-daioh.

There was also a Shin Saiyuki drama CD in which everyone tired of Kanna and Sumire ruining everything with their constant bickering, and decided to recast the show by drawing straws. This resulted in the casting of Kouran as Son Goku and Iris as Sanzou-houshi. Both Kanna and Sumire wound up with minor roles, which pleased neither of them, and so they ruined everything with their constant bickering. :downsrim:

But by the time Saiyuki was adapted for one of the live-action musicals, Orihime and Leni had joined the Hanagumi and Sumire had retired, so some roles were recast and others were created. The new stage featured Kanna as Son Gokuu, Maria as Gyuumaoh, Orihime as Sanzou-houshi, Sakura as Cho Hakkai, Iris as Sa Gojou, Kouran as Kinkaku-daioh, and Leni as Ginkaku-daioh.

:pseudo: :neckbeard:

Schadenfraulein fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Mar 18, 2008

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Kanna is cute. :colbert:

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Kanna's sad face is more adorable.



Kanna is cute. :colbert:

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Here's a full-length image of Kanna in her Son Goku costume.



Still cute. :colbert:

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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LightWarden posted:

To the person who told me that Kanna's VA also does the voice of Monkey D. Luffy... Thanks a lot, I cannot unhear it.

She also does the voice of Krillin.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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LightWarden posted:

Spirit, any possibility of translating what they were saying in some of these? I'm wondering what Kohran's was all about.
"Always...Together..."
Ohgami: Sakura-san!
Sakura: Ensign!
Both: We'll always...be together...

"South Wind! Big Wave!!"
Kanna: Captai~n!
Kanna: Captain, here I come!
Ohgami: Kanna!
Both: South Wind! Big Wave!!

"Iris in Wonderland"
Ohgami: I'm late! I'm late!
Iris: Oniichan, wait for—!
Iris: Kyaaaaa!
Iris: Huh!?
Ohgami: Good morning, Iris.
Iris: I love you, Oniichan...
Both: Iris au Pays de Merveilles... (Iris in Wonderland...)

"Teigeki Beam...Fire!!"
Ohgami: Kouran, are you prepared?
Kouran: S'long as yer here, Ohgami-han, it'll turn out right!
Ohgami: OK! Alignment set!
Kouran: Energy loadin' at 500%!
Both: Teigeki Beam...Fire!!

"The 'Virgin Road' to Eternity"
Ohgami: Sumire-kun, here!
Sumire: Yes, ensign!
Both: It's the "virgin road" to eternity.
* In Japanese, the words "virgin road" refer to a bride walking down the aisle. :gonk:

"A Toast"
Ohgami: Maria...
Maria: Captain...
Both: За ваше... (To yours...)

Schadenfraulein fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Apr 20, 2008

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Reallycoolname posted:

Kanna can probably uppercut immaterial spirits at this point, she'll be fine.

Nah, not until the second OAV series.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Voting for Kanna.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Shyrka posted:

Voting Sumire because she's Sailor Mars.

Terashell posted:

... Explain yourself :colbert:

Sumire's seiyuu is Tomizawa Michie, who played Sailormars.



So remember, a vote for Sumire is a vote for Kotobuki C-ko.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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I much prefer the poison-sucking scene in the manga.

Kanna's the one sucking the poison out of Sumire's hand. And Sumire reacts the same as in the game. :blush:

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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I love the use of the manga panels and hope to see more of them.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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The mystery Koubu...are they Eisenkleids from the first, failed European Hoshigumi? But there are five, not four, of them...

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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LittleSunshine posted:

Holy crap, I just got all the way through this thread and I'm still in time to vote!

Of course I still have to decide between Kanna and Kohran....

Shark-kicking.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Haz posted:

More like choosing between exploding cake and A MAN! :)

More like choosing between death by explosion and DEATH BY SNOO-SNOO :black101:

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Dash Magnum posted:

What the...is she eating a goddamn habanero? :supaburn: drat!

No, it's a persimmon.

Of the Hachiya variety, I believe. :eng101:

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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LittleSunshine posted:

Ah, I figured it was a peach, given that she plays Son Goku. Even though she's not in costume in that bromide....

The cross-shaped leaves are distinctively persimmony; also, the autumn landscape.

Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Morgenthau posted:

Probably they've run out of Victorian-era countries to historically rape now.

What's next? Communist Russia? Kaiser Germany?

Actually, during the Sakura Taisen V anime, Ratchet is scouting out Berlin.

It's 1929.

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Schadenfraulein
Dec 23, 2006
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Morgenthau posted:

The Berlin whatever-gumi could go fight off the unholy hordes of the National Socialists and face off a semi-demonic Hitler himself.

Requesting Sakura Taisen/Bionic Commando mashup, stat.

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