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RGBRIOT
Apr 19, 2009

"Beauty, packaged for a digital world."


MiketheGreat posted:

With so few buildings to work with, and a really horizontal space, I ended up nixing the globe concept (so much for sneaking a secret butt into the art). However, we settled on this layout, and I'm pretty pleased with how it turned out.



Righteous, that turned out pretty drat well.

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MiketheGreat
May 22, 2007

A subsidiary of Haigo Prefectural Manufacturing Industries


Keket posted:

That works allot better, but im finding it hard to see the purple lines clearly, maybe its just my screen/eyes.

For what it's worth, it's actually printing across a magazine-size spread at about 17"x4" and those lines are a lot sharper; I just didn't wanna break the forum table posting a semi-finished piece.

RGBRIOT posted:

Righteous, that turned out pretty drat well.

Thanks! I'll drop the final version with layout here once it hits the press.

RizieN
May 15, 2004

and it was still hot.


I've been getting inspired again lately, and I've kind of been testing the waters for some new ideas I've had. Here's the results so far, I don't know where I'm going to go with any of this, but I have a few loose ideas.





I'd definitely like to hear some responses.

RGBRIOT
Apr 19, 2009

"Beauty, packaged for a digital world."


RizieN posted:

I've been getting inspired again lately, and I've kind of been testing the waters for some new ideas I've had. Here's the results so far, I don't know where I'm going to go with any of this, but I have a few loose ideas.

I like this. The layering is pretty cool. Though the smaller copy underneath seems out of place. Personally I'd go more repetitive if you're going to copy the original. Perhaps something similar to a fractal pattern? The texture seems to detract from the image in my opinion. Looking at it some more I keep thinking that taking this further...less symmetrical would give it some more depth.

quote:


I'd definitely like to hear some responses.

Don't much care for this one. The pattern between the lines crossing over is sweet, but the random cut outs at the top and bottom are very distracting and make no sense. (Perhaps there's a context I'm missing?) The texture is pretty cool though.


Both images boggle my mind. They're not really clear as far as context goes...but of course if they're just practice that doesn't really matter. If its sop pose to be abstract art, I'm not really seeing that either. I guess my gripe is while individual elements of the designs are appealing, the over arching theme/feel/look of these images seem lacking or in conflict.

Just my two cents, don't take my words too negatively. There are some great elements here!

RGBRIOT fucked around with this message at Jul 14, 2012 around 00:31

RizieN
May 15, 2004

and it was still hot.


Definitely some good insight! Thanks! I was thinking about trying more asymmetrical patterns but god if it doesn't gently caress with my weird OCD thing about symmetry.

The cut outs are actually the contour of a woman's stomach, in the one circle/line thing you can barely see the clipping mask of a black and white, posterized image of a woman's stomach, but its not very clear.

I will for sure keep your comments in mind when I start messing around some more tonight. Thanks man, appreciate it.

Yoshi Jjang
Oct 5, 2011

what happen to porkchop?


Still trying to learn how to paint digitally. Ugh...

John Liver
May 4, 2009



I am an idiot.



I was trying to get used to coloring in this style for the first time, but I was so worried about doing a good job with color and detail, I failed to notice that I completely scrambled the pose. Instead of looking like he wants to cut his arm off, the whole thing looks way too relaxed and anemic. It doesn't have nearly the energy I was going for. Can someone offer tips on how to improve overall line-of-action and composition for a pose like this?

RGBRIOT
Apr 19, 2009

"Beauty, packaged for a digital world."


I think this looks pretty good over all!

But since you asked:


The two rectangular spots are where I think you got off track a bit. Notice the way the body hunches over... while that is great to add a dynamic feeling to the image, the chest is suffering for it, making the guy look smaller/skinnier. Looking at the left leg the double hump and very skinny knee to calf/thigh ratios are making his leg look super thin again adding to the anorexic feel. I feel like moving the chest out, or at least giving it a bit more definition and removing the double hump in favor of a single line on the leg will help fill the character out a bit.

As for the action pose, I think it looks great, but if you're looking for intensity, think of this pose in real life. There are two things 'wrong' (in my opinion) with the right arm. 1. People who are about to cut off their own arm don't point their pinky out like they're holding a glass of chardonnay wine. 2. By rotating the elbow up higher you can increase the intensity of the sword draw. Right now you've got an elegant pull going on, when in fact the character is going to cut his own arm off. Beef it up with a more dynamic position for the drawing arm and I think you'll like the feel more.

Sorry for the lovely photoshop, I'm on break and wanted to make this real quick before I'm done with my smoke.

Seriously though, it's pretty rad. The structure's not bad, the face is pretty good (though a bit more worry/anger lines could help convey intensity) and the coloring is great!

John Liver
May 4, 2009




Thanks for the tips. I'll take another crack at it.

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

Call today for your
free art test!



Learning to oil paint out in the big ol' world. Yesterday's painting was an unmitigated disaster - I didn't lay out enough colors, I used only OMS and no medium, I chose a really cramped composition.

Today I used a split primary palette plus Payne's Gray, and made up some medium of half OMS and half refined linseed oil. The paint flowed much better and it was so much easier to keep things under control.

edit* later that day:

neonnoodle fucked around with this message at Jul 15, 2012 around 23:26

Just a Fish
Mar 22, 2012


Here's a one small bird-house.

was thinking about adding a hook to the roof and couple to the bottom and turn it in to a keyholder

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

Kiss Me, I'm Hateful!

Rebo posted:

Never posted here but I read the threads a lot for inspiration.
I have been doing a lot of water color, a medium I never really touched before, Im not too good at it so its mostly just fooling around. Then scanning in the results and using Illustrator to mask it into various shapes while combining it with other paintings and coming up with results like this:



I really like that, especially the top part. It has a real atmospheric feel to it and really captures the idea of "silhouette of a tower at night." The clouds are what makes it, I think.

I'm not too keen on the bottom parts of it. They're not really BAD, it just doesn't strike me as GOOD either, you know what I'm saying?

Fine work, either way.

Mein Eyes!
Apr 15, 2002

arf bark woof



aw

The Arcade Baron
Jun 13, 2012



John Liver posted:

I am an idiot.



I was trying to get used to coloring in this style for the first time, but I was so worried about doing a good job with color and detail, I failed to notice that I completely scrambled the pose. Instead of looking like he wants to cut his arm off, the whole thing looks way too relaxed and anemic. It doesn't have nearly the energy I was going for. Can someone offer tips on how to improve overall line-of-action and composition for a pose like this?

I did a quick redline of your pose, trying to make it a bit more dynamic. It could probably be pushed further but I didn't want to deviate too much from what you already had.



To be honest, the color could use some work too. Your shading is very....stringy and patchy, which doesn't work well with the sort of cartoony style you're working in. Don't be afraid to make big, BOLD sections of shadow. It can be intimidating, but the results will be much better in the long run. I can see that you're probably using a relatively small brush and using a lot of strokes to fill in the areas of shadow - instead, try using a larger brush and blocking in the shadows as a more solid mass. Use the biggest brush possible and, at first, don't worry about the details because you can go back and clean up the lines later.

On the other hand, I'm really liking the evil shadow thing on his arm, it's really well done and you should push the rest of the color in the image more toward that simple, graphic style, I think.

...And speaking of color, time to undermine my own advice with a thing I've been working on (As they say, "those who can, do; those who can't, teach"):



I'm working on one of those 30 day challenges that float around the net and wanted to try to get away from being so constrained by my linework, so I just started with a sorta gesture drawing and went from there.

The problem is, once I get to about this stage I can never seem to firm up the details in a picture. It's very frustrating because I feel like I'm fumbling around blindly with no clear idea of what I'm doing or what to aim for.

I'm working in SAI, incidentally, if that matters for any advice given.

hello clarice
Jun 8, 2010

For Your Health!


I am so glad that this thread exists!! I recently got back into doing art for the first time in the last.. 3-4 years. I did a bunch of naked lady sketches to get a feeling for what I was doing, and came up with this:

http://i.imgur.com/kdEiQ.jpg

I posted it in on my FB and the pretty much overwhelming opinion from friends was to NOT ink it and NOT color the hair as I'd initially intended. It feels wrong to have a white background though, so I was thinking of something in gray marker that would maybe turn out something like this:

http://i.imgur.com/oK9t6.jpg

What do you think? Is it not enough?

Nate Breakman
Oct 16, 2003

~*~dOiN' It~*~

I've started watercoloring on my lunch break with a little portable hard watercolor kit and a moleskine book. It's the first time I've had any real practice with watercolors. Most of these are about 20 to 50 minutes or so:











I'm worried that a lot of my stuff doesn't pass the squint test, that I don't have much contrast. Any tips on how to get a better wrangle with watercolors, especially working on a small scale like this?

Nunez
Feb 21, 2011


hello clarice posted:

I am so glad that this thread exists!! I recently got back into doing art for the first time in the last.. 3-4 years. I did a bunch of naked lady sketches to get a feeling for what I was doing, and came up with this:

http://i.imgur.com/kdEiQ.jpg

I posted it in on my FB and the pretty much overwhelming opinion from friends was to NOT ink it and NOT color the hair as I'd initially intended. It feels wrong to have a white background though, so I was thinking of something in gray marker that would maybe turn out something like this:

http://i.imgur.com/oK9t6.jpg

What do you think? Is it not enough?

It feels unfinished to me. Pencil outlining always screams THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS to me, so I'd say ink it.

Leaving the hair blank also makes it feel unfinished. Maybe adding just one flat color for the hair will make it look more dramatic? Like a heavily saturated, bright blue with a magenta background?

Nunez fucked around with this message at Jul 21, 2012 around 05:32

unixbeard
Dec 28, 2004



http://vimeo.com/46149488

RGBRIOT
Apr 19, 2009

"Beauty, packaged for a digital world."



Love these. Your Generative Sphere was amazing.

unixbeard
Dec 28, 2004



Thanks!

Pineapple Salad
Apr 4, 2012

Quantum of Solus


Here's a reduction woodcut I finished recently, and I'm hoping I can get some honest critique on it, as I drew the sketch directly on the woodblock on a whim and got pretty sloppy with the cutting.



I was wondering whether I should leave it as is, or whether I should touch up some areas with pen and ink (particularly the lips and eyes)? There's not too much I can do since it's a print, but any tips for future projects or improvements I could make would be very much appreciated.

RGBRIOT
Apr 19, 2009

"Beauty, packaged for a digital world."


I love the look of the snakes. The skin of face however, not so much. I think it's because the snakes follow the contour of the bodies, where as the face is cross hatched to hell and back and excepting the chin/eyes the hatching doesn't follow the natural contour of the face.

All in all though an excellent depiction. I wish I could woodcut half as well!

Toriori
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed

I'm putting together a show based on the Seven Sacred Grandfather Teachings and more European style. So essentially the colours of Woodland to reflect my Aboriginal ancestry and the line work to represent my European ancestry. Anyway, my first piece is a wolf, looked like this last night.


All day I kept thinking the head looked too small but I decided to sleep on it then put in more today. Starting to come along nicely:



I got home form work and went for a long run so I didn't feel like pulling paints out but I just had to widen the line work on the head or I was going to go crazy.

I was going to do some sculpture with a wasp nest as well, my grandma's friend called me and told me she had one if I wanted to use it. I got really stoked and picked it up from her house, then brought it home and wanted to get started right away. First of all, she had kept it in a clear plastic garbage bag in her shed for God knows how long because the wasp paper was very moist, so I think 'whatever, I'll dump it on the grass to dry out'. I dump it, and out of the nest comes about a dozen black, slimy, rotten wasp carcasses. There was still a live larvae inside one of the little combs and a huge dead queen wasp. I was such a mixture of freaked out, disgusted and disappointed that I just threw the whole thing out. Oh well.

Pineapple Salad
Apr 4, 2012

Quantum of Solus


RGBRIOT posted:

I love the look of the snakes. The skin of face however, not so much. I think it's because the snakes follow the contour of the bodies, where as the face is cross hatched to hell and back and excepting the chin/eyes the hatching doesn't follow the natural contour of the face.

All in all though an excellent depiction. I wish I could woodcut half as well!

Thank you! I totally agree about the hatching. I was hoping that after adding different layers of color, the hatching wouldn't look so wild, but it didn't quite work out that way. Definitely will keep your advice in mind for the next one.

Toriori posted:

Wasp nest



That's pretty disgusting. What were you planning on doing with the nest, were it not filled with dead insects?

Also, I really like the painting you've started. I'm not sure how I feel about the green combined with the pink, but the drawing itself and the brushstrokes are very nice, and I'm assuming once you get the background in there it'll tie everything together. Adding the fur to the sides of the head was definitely a good improvement. You've got a really nice start going, so keep up the good work!

Jabrosky
Aug 11, 2012

by elpintogrande


Toriori posted:

I'm putting together a show based on the Seven Sacred Grandfather Teachings and more European style. So essentially the colours of Woodland to reflect my Aboriginal ancestry and the line work to represent my European ancestry. Anyway, my first piece is a wolf, looked like this last night.


All day I kept thinking the head looked too small but I decided to sleep on it then put in more today. Starting to come along nicely:


I don't know enough about proper art skills to give you a long, in-depth critique, but I will say that I like the surreal lighting effect created by your use of purple paint. The wolf's anatomy looks sound as far as I can tell.

I have a lot of drawings on my DeviantArt page, but I'll only post my most recent upload for now:



She's supposed to be a dinosaur-hunting jungle girl in the tradition of Shanna the She-Devil. The lines were inked with a Sharpie marker and the coloring down with Prismacolor pencils. I'd like any critiques to focus on the character's anatomy and the coloring (for some reason I always end up dissatisfied with how my coloring with colored pencils turn out).

OtherCubed
Nov 12, 2008



I think it would look more natural if she was leaning on her other leg, so that her left thigh was the one coming out more. The positioning of the feet make it look like it would be pretty painful to stand like that.

Also, her right leg (the one sticking out) doesn't really seem to be sticking out. It just kind of has a giant thigh. Other things I quickly noticed are that her arms are way too short and her face is too short/wide. it needs a bit more chin, there isn't any room for any lower teeth on her at the moment. I'm not exactly an expert anatomist, just things that I saw quickly.

Toriori
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed

Pineapple Salad posted:



That's pretty disgusting. What were you planning on doing with the nest, were it not filled with dead insects?

Also, I really like the painting you've started. I'm not sure how I feel about the green combined with the pink, but the drawing itself and the brushstrokes are very nice, and I'm assuming once you get the background in there it'll tie everything together. Adding the fur to the sides of the head was definitely a good improvement. You've got a really nice start going, so keep up the good work!

I was planning on doing a whole bunch of stuff, actually! I was going to make a mask out of some of the wasp 'paper', lacquer and chain one of the combs for a necklace and probably do some misc. casting with the more of the paper.

And thanks, the purple is darker than it looks in the photo and is just a base, I'd really like to go over it with blue afterwards. I think the next in the series will be an Eagle.

Jabrosky, don't be afraid to put your coloured pencils through their paces. Are you just working on 8.5"x11" plain paper? Something with more of a tooth to it always works better for me when using coloured pencils, even something smooth like matte board works quite well. I don't have a better image because the actual piece is at my parents but this is one of my coloured pencil drawings on matte board. I debossed the areas that I wanted to keep really white:



Give those suckers a work out, coloured pencils were made to be worn down so go to town with it. With your skin tone, look into the different colours that make skin more alive. before you lay down your brown skin tone, think about how dark skin tones have a lot of rich reds and yellows and other colours that make them much more vibrant. Just grab a piece of paper and practice colour mixing, and pressure for tone.

Toriori fucked around with this message at Aug 12, 2012 around 00:25

vorhese
Feb 16, 2002

brains for breakfast brains for brunch

Lot of good stuff posted. Jealous of some of the skills.

Here's a couple things I've done between diaper changes.





me not draw womens good


partagas150
Jan 25, 2008

mmm papa moai moai


vorhese posted:

Lot of good stuff posted. Jealous of some of the skills.

Here's a couple things I've done between diaper changes.





me not draw womens good




These are nice. Especially for someone still in diapers.

Toriori
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed

Now all I'm thinking is more line emphasis and we're on our way to the next piece!




PS Vorhese those are p. sweet!

SleeplessInEngland
May 30, 2011


Jabrosky posted:

She's supposed to be a dinosaur-hunting jungle girl in the tradition of Shanna the She-Devil. The lines were inked with a Sharpie marker and the coloring down with Prismacolor pencils. I'd like any critiques to focus on the character's anatomy and the coloring (for some reason I always end up dissatisfied with how my coloring with colored pencils turn out).

With the colouring, you really need to start thinking of the different colours & shades that make up an overall colour. With your drawing, it seems very much like you've thought 'This part will be green' and just plonked some green on. Next time you colour, really think of what shades make up that colour, what colour to use for the midtone & what colour to use for the shadows & highlights.

Also, if you're using prismas, you really have no excuse not to blend those pencils! Right now you seem to just be putting a layer of whatever colour down and leaving it at that. Prismas are great for building up layers because you can really blend the colours together and build up layers without it looking messy. Don't just do one layer of colour, add one layer & then use some tissue to smooth it out, then add another layer, add more tones and smooth it out again. Keep going until you've got a nice even, smooth colour. It takes a long time but it is so worth it.

John Liver
May 4, 2009



Okay, coming back to this a month late, but:

The Arcade Baron posted:



To be honest, the color could use some work too...
On the other hand, I'm really liking the evil shadow thing on his arm, it's really well done and you should push the rest of the color in the image more toward that simple, graphic style, I think.

Shading seems to be one of those things I have consistent trouble with. I tried it out on a simpler drawing. Can I get your opinion on the shadows in this image?




You're right, the big strokes in dark areas really do work much better.

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

Call today for your
free art test!


John Liver posted:

Okay, coming back to this a month late, but:


Shading seems to be one of those things I have consistent trouble with. I tried it out on a simpler drawing. Can I get your opinion on the shadows in this image?




You're right, the big strokes in dark areas really do work much better.

I did a paintover of this:

- You should mirror or horizontally flip your work often. It looks like you're going for a dynamic pose but it's still too slanted. I did a free transform to make it a little bit straighter, sorry if it seems too static.
- you can push your shadows much much darker than your home value.
- your shadows should be cooler (bluer) than your local color because the surrounding background is blue and would throw blue reflected light into the shadow areas. Thus the darker yellow is green, the darker orange is a cooler brown that's closer to purple.
- The main shadow design has the light coming primarily from the character's front left. The viewer is looking at the character from the front. Specular highlights are always facing the viewer. (http://www.huevaluechroma.com/021.php)

John Liver
May 4, 2009



neonnoodle posted:

- You should mirror or horizontally flip your work often. It looks like you're going for a dynamic pose but it's still too slanted. I did a free transform to make it a little bit straighter, sorry if it seems too static.
- you can push your shadows much much darker than your home value.
- your shadows should be cooler (bluer) than your local color because the surrounding background is blue and would throw blue reflected light into the shadow areas. Thus the darker yellow is green, the darker orange is a cooler brown that's closer to purple.
Yeah, I was going for a weird angle there and it didn't work out. Shadow color was a stupid mistake though, the background was originally reddish to match, but I didn't change it.

neonnoodle posted:

- The main shadow design has the light coming primarily from the character's front left. The viewer is looking at the character from the front. Specular highlights are always facing the viewer. (http://www.huevaluechroma.com/021.php)
Now this, I actually did not realize, which scares me a bit. Thanks for the info.

OtherCubed
Nov 12, 2008



I know I'm probably doing something dumb here, but I've tried like 3 different times and I cannot paint snow for poo poo on photoshop



You can see I got kind of fed up and gave up, but that's about the best result I've managed to get so far. Is there a decent way to do it?

HelloWinter
May 27, 2012

"Hey, Nagito, what'cha
thinkin' about?"

"Oh, y'know. Murder stuff."


OtherCubed posted:

I know I'm probably doing something dumb here, but I've tried like 3 different times and I cannot paint snow for poo poo on photoshop



You can see I got kind of fed up and gave up, but that's about the best result I've managed to get so far. Is there a decent way to do it?
I'll give this a shot! Please take this with a grain of salt.

I've looked up Google for an image that matches with your snow's texture (snow has lots of varieties of texture and density), and also the time of day/weather. I'm guessing that you're trying for a stark, mid-afternoon lighting with a bit of a cloudy weather?


Usually for bright, non-cloudy days, the shadow's color of the snow will match more with the sky's hue.


Anyway, first step is to make a very simple overlay of the shadow's shape. Only use 2-3 tones of grey, don't worry about color and texture just yet or else you'll overwhelm yourself. The most crucial step is to make something believable by mending the shape and form correctly firsthand. Shadows tend to have softer edges the more elongated it is.


I've also altered the shading of the machine a bit. I wasn't so sure, it just didn't make sense to me.


Now you can safely add colors that reflect on the white snow such as the sky, the machine, and all other elements that can influence its color.


Finally, texture it. Don't spread the texture too evenly, it'll only flatten the image. Blur out the parts that aren't important, sharpen the ones that are. This can also work vice-versa.

And voila! Three simple steps. I've painted the textures manually with the default Photoshop brushes since I don't have a good collection of texture brushes. This is the first time I've tried to simulate snow, I'm sorry for it looking wonky... Now I have something new to practice, too! I can only hope that this has helped you try a different direction.


Here's something that I've been working on for fun. I'm happy with it so far considering that I haven't been able to draw in months... I've cropped it horizontally because it's meant to be a desktop wallpaper, but I haven't done a solid sketch of the background yet. It's only illegible squigglies right now.

There are so many things in this picture that I'll edit and fix eventually like anatomy, but comments and critiques are always vastly appreciated.

HelloWinter fucked around with this message at Aug 21, 2012 around 02:10

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

In a couple of days I am supposed to make a mural 8x8 feet and I have to be finished in only 3 days.

The theme is "Fertility".

Here is a random photoshop mockup:



Here a rough pencil thumbnail:



Two swingers with rabbit heads standing around an egg with an ankh, sprouting a tree . . .hmmm.

Alternatively, I thought about a pregnant woman in a lotus position with six arms. Each arm would juggle a house wive's chores. She could have the moon behind her.

Alternatively my friend suggest a giant tampon made of tampons . . . but I digress. This theme is killing me.

Birds and bees, rabbits and flowers?

What imagery comes to mind with fertility? I have to start on Thursday night. :/

I crossposted this in the DED thread because it is kind of a rush. Never have I had to paint such a large space in such a short time.

cofaigh
Dec 30, 2006
Ha ha... dangly parts

sigma 6 posted:

Alternatively, I thought about a pregnant woman in a lotus position with six arms. Each arm would juggle a house wive's chores. She could have the moon behind her.

I like this thought, though perhaps replacing the handheld housewives chores with fertility symbols and aids; the previously mentioned ankh, certain animal bones, herbs, figures of deities etc.

The moon is a nice touch too.

Kell_Dragon
Oct 25, 2007


It's been a while since I've had anything going on worth talking about on here. Some jackoff stole my car and a bunch of my equipment was in there (not even sure what was in there until I need something and can't find it) No molds or anything really valuable, thankfully. Nothing that couldn't be replaced except a letter opener that was hand forged by my uncle. So whatever, this is the first piece I've had time to tinker with in a while for whatever reason. Buddy of mine is doing a Warhammer costume thing for Halloween and I'm helping out, this is the general idea

So I'm making him a new head. It's still big-time in progress so a lot of things are subject to change. Wires and hamburgers and cigars and stuff get shoved in the mouth. You know, whatever can go in a mouth goes in the mouth part. It's not a perfect representation of the source material but I guess anyone familiar with Warhammer 40k knows you just make poo poo up, nobody cares, it doesn't matter. More wires = better.








I apologize if this falls more in the realm of like a cosplay thing, but if there's a thread for those guys I don't want to be there. You guys are much cooler dudes.

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effzedsix
Mar 7, 2006


Hey folks, anyone wanna lend a hand?

I've made a few illustrations that I kinda like, but i'm never satisfied with my poses. In general I'm going for these 2d side shots, but I'm working on a colouring book with a couple friends and my poses don't get much better than this. Any tips or resources for ways to draw better poses?







as a side request: does anybody know of any scanning tools? I can't seem to get my blue pencil to show up right when scanning on my crappy HP printer/scanner combo

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