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Never read Pratchett before but I was idly browsing some books at lunch and picked up Colour of Magic.
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 13:40 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 17:09 |
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Drunken Baker posted:Never read Pratchett before but I was idly browsing some books at lunch and picked up Colour of Magic. Word of warning: it's a bit zany.
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 13:44 |
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Drunken Baker posted:Never read Pratchett before but I was idly browsing some books at lunch and picked up Colour of Magic. I enjoy Colour of Magic but it's not the best book in the series. If you even remotely enjoy parts of it make sure to give his other works a chance.
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 13:47 |
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It was good that on this very page there were some recommendations about where to start off. I don't mind zany because I'll be juggling it with Dune and IT which I imagine will leave me a bit dry.
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 14:24 |
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Drunken Baker posted:It was good that on this very page there were some recommendations about where to start off. I don't mind zany because I'll be juggling it with Dune and IT which I imagine will leave me a bit dry. The weird thing is it manages to be funny despite being zany. That's a rare thing.
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 14:26 |
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I know nothing of Pratchett's work besides Death talks in a unique font so I'm eager to get stuck in. I'm half tempted to smuggle it the bogs in work for a quick half hour.
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 14:37 |
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I like the first few books because it's clear that the image of the Discworld as it would be is forming but it's not quite there yet. They're very charming in their own way but not hugely representative of what follows which got better as it got more focused.
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 21:02 |
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Speaking of Death's ALL CAPS, which voices do people like best for Death? I find that most of the people doing Death tend to overdo the exaggerated bass in a way that makes it hard to emote and comes out stiff. I really liked whoever it was that did Death in the full-cast recording of Thief of Time, who was just very, very calm and measured. (Although, that one had plenty of other problems, most notably that the person reading Susan's sections did a bad Lobsang and the person doing Lobsang's sections did a bad Susan. Then again, Stephen Briggs does everybody from the monastery with a bad Chinese accent, so we have to count our blessings.)
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 21:22 |
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Rand Brittain posted:Speaking of Death's ALL CAPS, which voices do people like best for Death? I find that most of the people doing Death tend to overdo the exaggerated bass in a way that makes it hard to emote and comes out stiff. Death doesn't emote much.
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 21:25 |
I kind of liked how he was done in Discworld Noir.
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 21:38 |
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Rand Brittain posted:Speaking of Death's ALL CAPS, which voices do people like best for Death? I find that most of the people doing Death tend to overdo the exaggerated bass in a way that makes it hard to emote and comes out stiff. Just like I thought that Fear & Loathing was impossible to film, I think that Deaths VOICE is impossible to film. I hope I'm just as wrong.
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 21:49 |
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Rand Brittain posted:Speaking of Death's ALL CAPS, which voices do people like best for Death? I find that most of the people doing Death tend to overdo the exaggerated bass in a way that makes it hard to emote and comes out stiff. I liked Christopher Lee.
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 00:02 |
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MonsieurChoc posted:I liked Christopher Lee. Christopher Lee was very good, but I don't know if Ian Richardson wasn't better.
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 01:49 |
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Matt Berry as Christopher Lee as Death https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vGkgC_5Ppo Could work
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 11:20 |
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Jerry Cotton posted:The weird thing is it manages to be funny despite being zany. That's a rare thing. I just noticed last night that Pratchett's foreword for Equal Rites says the book is neither wacky nor zany. Which is true. That book isn't.
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 12:30 |
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Would Night Watch be considered a noir Discworld novel?
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 00:26 |
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I don't think Vimes really fits the noir protagonist archetype all that well, but I guess if you stretched the label a bit you could kinda sorta make it fit to Night Watch. I've always just thought of it as a riff on Les Mis. Certainly, noir tends towards melodrama; Night Watch's events are quite momentous by comparison.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 11:32 |
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Vimes started out as a hard-boiled dick pastiche, not noir. Then again none of the books are hard-boiled..
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 12:03 |
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The Ankh-Morpork books are kind of like the seminal computer video game Timesplitters: Future Perfect.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 12:06 |
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Rand Brittain posted:Speaking of Death's ALL CAPS, which voices do people like best for Death? I find that most of the people doing Death tend to overdo the exaggerated bass in a way that makes it hard to emote and comes out stiff. Nigel Planer did the best Death, I think, by overplaying the implied gravitas of Death's unique voice. Death doesn't really emote -- emotions need glands, and Death's fresh out of those -- so he would use the same "tolling of the iron bells of impending entropy" tone of impending doom whether the subject at hand was the end of the world or his favorite brand of biscuit. I gotta cut Briggs some slack with Sweeper's voice, though. A bad Chinese accent with hints of lower-class British suits his character perfectly. "Is it not written, 'there's a lot going on we don't know about?'" And Briggs's take on the Auditors was hilarious -- a flat, generic, almost American accent really worked with the characterization. I wish we could have heard more from the Auditors, and I wish even more that Unity LeJean didn't commit suicide at the end.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 07:30 |
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So who would people cast as various characters for tv/film adaptions? The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that Miranda Hart would be an excellent Sybil.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 10:11 |
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I recently had the idea of Rowan Atkinson as Vetinari and the more I thought about it, the more convinced I became I was on to something.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 10:26 |
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Matt Damon as Gaspode.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 11:04 |
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Peter Falk as Vimes, quite obviously.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 12:34 |
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precision posted:Peter Falk as Vimes, quite obviously. Yeah, I see it.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 12:49 |
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Ddraig posted:So who would people cast as various characters for tv/film adaptions? I think Joanna Scanlan for Sybil actually. I really like Charles Dance as Vetinari, but I could see Mark Heap in the role. Peter Serafinowicz as Brian Butterfield as Fred Colon. I liked Brigg's Sweeper, he sounded like he came from a London Chinese community which seems to suit him well.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 13:41 |
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Fred Colon is surely Nick Frost.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 13:49 |
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So I might shelve "Colour of Magic" for now as it's not quite clicking for me. The only other Pratchett book the local shop has is MORT so I might get that tomorrow.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 15:53 |
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My Lovely Horse posted:Fred Colon is surely Nick Frost. More like A Touch of Frost. Except he's way too old and possibly dead already.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 17:06 |
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I repeat my call for Tony Stamp and Reg Hollis off the Bill for Colon and Nobby.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 20:39 |
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Drunken Baker posted:So I might shelve "Colour of Magic" for now as it's not quite clicking for me. The only other Pratchett book the local shop has is MORT so I might get that tomorrow. IMO, Mort is a much better introduction to the series than Colour of Magic.
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# ? Sep 29, 2016 04:42 |
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subx posted:IMO, Mort is a much better introduction to the series than Colour of Magic. I think Guards! Guards! is also an excellent place to start. Oh, I didn't see the post you were replying to. Yes, Mort is a much better place to start than Colour of Magic. If Colour of Magic was the first book in the series I read, I probably never would have stuck with it. Hate Fibration fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Sep 29, 2016 |
# ? Sep 29, 2016 04:59 |
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I got through Color of Magic, then picked Thief of Time for my second book. Yep. Susan, the monks, auditors, Soak... It was the best. I think Thief of Time is the best spoiler filled book to start with.
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# ? Sep 29, 2016 05:46 |
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SystemLogoff posted:I got through Color of Magic, then picked Thief of Time for my second book. My first Discworld was "Pyramids". A decent starting place, I think. Standalone, good enough to not be a turnoff, but not so good as to make the next book disappointing, and late in enough that Ankh Morpork was starting to feel proper. The next one was Men at Arms, followed by Night Watch. The time gap between the two was a BIT disorienting, but Night Watch made up for it by being so very good. Still my pick for top Pratchett.
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# ? Sep 29, 2016 07:22 |
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Khizan posted:I wish he'd done more with Carrot and Vimes. My favorite Carrot moment is in The Fifth Elephant where Vimes was thinking about the way that Carrot's destiny warps the world around him, and wondering how he'd stand up to it if he had to. I wish that he had had to. That would be a hell of a thing. Carrot, convinced the city needs a King for it's own good (say because Vetinari finally decided he was officially Too Old For This poo poo and took off to Uberwald to retire as a vampire), and Vimes ready willing and able to go nose to nose in favor of populism.
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# ? Sep 29, 2016 09:16 |
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Jo Brand is obviously Nanny Ogg though, right?
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# ? Sep 29, 2016 12:15 |
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How tall is Willem DaFoe? I'm thinking Nobby Nobbs here.
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# ? Sep 29, 2016 12:25 |
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Bobcat Goldthwaite for bursar.
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# ? Sep 29, 2016 12:26 |
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My Lovely Horse posted:Fred Colon is surely Nick Frost. Simon Pegg with makeup on for Nobby and deal.
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# ? Sep 29, 2016 22:05 |
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I can't help but think of anyone but Tony Robinson as Nobby because it's so obvious Nobby is a Baldrick style foil. Doesn't help that Terry and Tony were good mates.
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# ? Sep 30, 2016 00:34 |