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Jan
Feb 26, 2008



I couldn't help noticing that very little comments were made on A Silver Mt. Zion's 2008 release 13 Blues for Thirteen Moons. I've just now gotten it, even though I know I'll regret it considering I've hated ASMZ more and more with each new release increasing Efrim's screeching.

Having given it a solid listen, I'd say the first 12 tracks are the best. Which is a shame, because the instrumental work on the 4 "real" tracks is flawless.

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Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Finallyyyyy!

MONO has released the teaser site for Hymn to the Immortal Wind (their 5th album, for those who haven't been keeping tabs).

They have a whole orchestra backing them for this one, and it looks positively awesome. The one track they have up on the site feels like hearing You Are There all over again.

They're apparently touring with the orchestra, but only have one date announced in America at the moment, in New York... This may be my excuse to take my first ever trip to NYC.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



JaWs posted:

Please let them tour the US.

Pack your bags cause you'll have to road trip to NYC.

I know I am.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



JaWs posted:

Yeah, I am hoping for them to add more dates to the US. If that doesn't happen, NYC it is. Only a 6 hour drive for me but I already road tripped to see Mogwai this year and I'd rather not have to do it again. I would be fine with shelling out the cash to fly.

They released a last set of tour dates on their site yesterday, with the note "Final" dates. So don't get your hopes up.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Jetstar posted:

Why do bands like Gifts from Enola bother having a singer when you have to literally blast the music just to hear them sing? I've noticed a few bands doing this now, and it's beyond me why they'd even bother.

Hint: the vocals are an instrument, not a lead. Never bothered listening to My Bloody Valentine's lyrics and I'm not about to start -- it's just not the point.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Rhg0061r posted:

Comparing SR to The Beatles implies The Beatles were actually good

Funny you should say that, I was thinking the contrary.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



wlokos posted:

bland and boring
...
Do Make Say Think

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



But Kinski has some pretty slow paced songs as well (She Always Made Us Work Like Dogs, Your Lights Are Out or Burning Badly).

If you're looking for stuff closer to their faster songs (like Hot Stenographer?), you might enjoy 65daysofstatic.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Capitan Dad posted:



From what I can tell they've been basically playing Hymn to the Immortal Wind at every show, minus Silent Flight, Sleeping Dawn. (Except the NYC anniversary show, whose whole point I figure was to play that!)

The Montreal setlist was
Ashes in the Snow
Burial at Sea
Bollow the Map
Pure As Snow
Yearning
The Battle To Heaven
Halo
Everlasting Light

I was a bit disappointed they didn't play Halcyon or Lost Snow, but since Hymn is a pretty varied album in comparison to the others, it still made for a great show.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



It just clicked that the opening band when I saw Mono was Maserati as well.

I was really impressed by the drummer as well, but overall I thought most of their songs had the same pattern and beat. Maybe I would've been able to recognize some better if I'd heard them before but as it is it seemed very similar. Great, but similar.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Hymn to the Immortal Wind is the most diverse, You Are There and Walking Cloud (etc.) are the usual favourites. Their earlier albums are a bit more heavy than melodic.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



The problem I have with Neurosis is I've heard both awesome, instrumental songs and less awesome lyrical songs. Do they have any mostly instrumental albums I should be looking at, then?

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



What about exclusive use of the piano? You should look into Eluvium's An Accidental Memory In the Case of Death, if so. It's one of my favourite albums.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Besides, what does it matter? "Post-rock", whether you hate or like the term, is so large you'll find different bands that totally don't sound alike. I for one hate the droney sound of Caspian or Do Make Say Think that people keep raving about, but I don't mention it out of respect.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



sometimes I do posted:

I need to spread the miaou love; they're my favorite post rock band.

I'd seen the name around but kind of forgot to check them out -- I just did, and thanks for reminding me! Tried out the samples on their myspace, then bought Happiness off iTunes, then ended up buying the rest. Really worth it.

Plus they have a gal drummer and bassist. There needs to be more girls playing post-rock.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Miaou is french for Meow. And those two words sound about the same in their respective language.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



The more I listen to miaou, the more I realize they feel like a huge mashup of different post-rock or post-rockish bands.

Without really pointing at particular songs, I've listened to some that sounded a lot like The Six Parts Seven, some that sounded like Mono, some like The Album Leaf (his instrumental songs), some like My Bloody Valentine... And pretty much all of Make These Things Alright sounds like Air.

That said, I actually much prefer Happiness to their other albums. All Around Us is good but the songs don't feel like they stand out as much, and Make These Thing Alright is really too ambient too my liking.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Rhgr posted:

Who are you? :O

And yes, I just got tired of every thread about a band turning into either A) Dustin trolling B) I BET UR IN THE BAND LOL or C) Someone tries to be witty and the thread turns into a circlejerk

Oh hey. :3

I haven't been there for a while either. Or for very long, for that matter.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Rhgr posted:

Sigh, now I feel really bad for not knowing who the two of you are! I didn't really think ATPR and SA shared the same demographic at all

Well like I said, I didn't post for long. Mostly before I registered on SA, and while I was working boring night shifts on my summer co-op. I was making a thousand paper cranes out of used company stationary and posted about that once or twice, although I eventually stopped at a hundred.

On ATPR I was, surprisingly enough, Jan. I had this for an avatar:

and my posts mostly consisted of one liners punctuated with :3, which annoyed Dustbindk. Therefore I like to think I contributed.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Bucket Joneses posted:

^ That's actually a guy on the right.

And by right, you mean left.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



this will destroy you

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Bucket Joneses posted:

What is this meant to imply? That they're really popular? Or that they dress ridiculously?

That they're awesome.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



I hadn't really paid attention to Maserati, even though I saw them open for Mono and recognized their drummer when the poor guy killed himself in an elevator shaft.

Anyway, I decided to give them a honest listen and I gotta say I like them -- Inventions for the New Season is a good album.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Yeah. It was pretty unusual that they put the drummer up front, and it quickly became really obvious why. The guy was a machine.

It did feel like every single of their songs however started with a quiet-loud sudden double crash and it was hard for me to tell them apart, having never heard them before. The one that I do remember is 12/16, something about it is just catchy for me.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



thehustler posted:

That sucks about FMTM

Edit: But I've just read the GY!BE news. Oh my GOD!!!!!

http://www.1119732.net/

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



What, someone asks about dark melodies and atmosphere, and no one's mentioned Godspeed You! Black Emperor?

Also, if you really want emphasis on the dark part, try out Palmless Prayer/Mass Murder Refrain the collaborative album between Mono and World's End Girlfriend.

Jan fucked around with this message at Apr 21, 2010 around 00:41

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



albear posted:

Isis, Pelican, Russian Circles and those bands aren't dark. They're just heavier.

Yeah, I wanted to make a comment on that but couldn't place my finger on the exact distinction. In my head, the terms "darker, melodic, atmosphere, metal" directly reminded me of Opeth, so I just suggested what came to mind when I replaced "metal" with "post-rock" in that enumeration.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



I don't see what's wrong with GY!BE as a starting point. It's been almost 8 years now, but I distinctly remember starting out with GY!BE, Mogwai and Sigur Rós. I've branched out in many other bands that were considered alike (ATPR didn't exist back then.) but always came back to the first two.

Granted, there's been an explosion of derivative bands since then, and I've settled into a happier middle ground, but it's not like long and drawn-out songs automatically make for inaccessible songs. It just means your average, radio-listening, pop-loving plebe won't like it, and quite honestly, that's not who we're trying to reach here is it?

Edit: But then I consider MONO to be bright and happy, and EITS steps beyond that to be downright insipid. I saw EITS live for their tour All of a Sudden I Miss Everyone and I sort of liked it but eventually I realized I enjoyed Eluvium opening for them a lot more than I liked EITS themselves.

Double edit: It had been a hell of a while since I'd listened to GY!BE, and I just listened to Moya again. Man, that song is a dirge to rival any.

Jan fucked around with this message at Apr 21, 2010 around 03:13

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Honestly, I've never thought of 65daysofstatic as post-rock. I love them, but they get labeled as post-rock a lot and I don't know why. I'd consider them electronic. Which kind of electronic, I don't know. But they don't sound like most post-rock bands, that's for sure.

Early on, especially with The Fall of Math, they sounded like some math-rock offshoot of post-rock. But yah, I'm not quite sure what to make of this newest release.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Do Make Say Think, Tortoise and Caspian are also real ambient and will put you to sleep instantly.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Bucket Joneses posted:

I hope you don't think "this music is so good it put me to sleep" is a way to compliment a band.

I for one was being facetious. The bands I mention bore me to death so I meant it in a non-complimentary sort of way.

But I imagine for people who enjoy ambient music more, it could actually become a compliment.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Lawnie posted:

I figured as much. From what I gather it was mostly a European tour only thing, and they sent a few out for Record Store Day. I'll keep my eye out for it, since Mogwai Fear Satan just might be the best post rock song ever (sorry Sleep)

no, the best song ever (note how I didn't include the loathsome qualifier "post-rocK") is Yearning, and if you disagree you can go jump off a cliff, choke on a bagful of cocks and die, in that order.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



I was expecting something terrible, but I guess it could be worse, it could be Efrim in A Silver Mt. Zion.

I'm thrilled that GY!BE is going together for one more (hopefully not last) tour, because god knows their work is leaps and bounds better than ASMZ.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Steve Winwood posted:

If you're going to be a baby then I'd 'recommend' you put me on ignore. I was merely curious as to why someone would post the same band three times in the span of two pages.

Five times out of six posts total

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



I heard The Mercury Program is a great band.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Grails sucks, Tortoise sucks, and since I don't like music that puts babies to sleep I went and saw Mono live last Thursday.

The setlist was about the same as everywhere else for this tour -- that is:
Ashes in the Snow
Burial at Sea
The Kidnapper Bell
Pure As Snow (Trails of the Winter Storm)
Sabbath
Yearning
Follow the Map
Halcyon (Beautiful Days)
Everlasting Light

Mono's kind of daunting, they say they're into touring all for the fans yet don't speak a single word throughout any of their shows. But it was kind of nostalgic for me, as they played in the same room I first saw them 5-6 years ago. It's a tiny room, the stage is barely two feet high and you could basically climb up any time and head backstage. Which is what I did back then to have my iPod autographed, and what I did this time to just hang out a little.

They're great guys.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



If they don't include Montreal in their american tour dates I'll be pissed.

Or they can not include it, and reserve a more intimate, awesome concert for their hometown fans, then I'd forgive them.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Nuclear Spoon posted:

I think I'd be silly not to take that up but I'm a little unsure of how they'd be live, though.

Most of their reputation comes from their legendary live performance, apparently. I haven't gotten to see them before they went on hiatus, so I definitely plan on seeing them now to make up for it.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008



Rhgr posted:

And yeah, Godspeed blew me away far more than I expected them to, to the point where I'm amazed that I was actually on the fence about going. Plus there was the whole "I might never get another chance to see them live" thing about it.

God god oh god I hope they pull out all the stops for their Montreal dates. Pay homage to their hometown, and make me feel a bit less bad about being so young/ignorant in good music when they were first active.

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Jan
Feb 26, 2008



So I got to see Godspeed You! Black Emperor last night. I don't know if it was hometown privilege or what, but they played for three hours straight, went through half of their repertoire.

Unfortunately, and I guess it was to be expected, I'd listened to their records so much already that seeing them live wasn't as interesting as I'd hoped it would be. However, they did play two or three songs I didn't know, namely (after some research) Hope Drone and Albanian. The latter was the highlight of the night for me. Moya was great but it suffered a bit without a cellist.

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