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Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



also with matt stewart dying i don't know how that affects the timeline


e wow what a sad snipe

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guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob

CodfishCartographer posted:

I mean they are in theory coming out with a new album """"soon"""" - a handful of new songs have been played at shows within the last year or two. By kalnoky standards that means a new album is practically around the corner, but for the rest of us that means it might be a few more years before anything comes of it.

For the rest of us that could mean anything between "this afternoon" and "never," inclusive.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

loving hell, Greg Lee from Hepcat died. Had a brain aneurysm and cardiac arrest on Sunday, he was only 53. The worst loving news.

WaffleZombie
May 10, 2003

"Identity Crisis" Murderer Wild Guess #333:Prince "Lady Killer Charming "Well, I AM the Adversa"



Bird in a Blender posted:

loving hell, Greg Lee from Hepcat died. Had a brain aneurysm and cardiac arrest on Sunday, he was only 53. The worst loving news.

Yeah, I woke up to that news and it really sucks. I just have so many memories tied up with Hepcat. They were the first "real" show that I went to with my friends, at the Trocadero in Philly in 1998. When I got married, even knowing that she hates most of the music I listen to, my wife gave me free rein to pick any 3 songs for the playlist, and Dance Wid Me was one of them.

The other time I got to see them was an odd experience - I used to travel a lot for work, and I sometimes managed to line trips up with concerts. So I ended up at the Knitting Factory in Spokane, WA to see Hepcat open for Flogging Molly, with a then-unknown Fitz and the Tantrums as the first band. In a very large crowd, I was one of maybe 8 people that cared about Hepcat in a tiny dance area near the stage and that was just a surreal feeling.

Of course, I put Right On Time on in the car while driving my 7 year old to karate tonight, and he immediately jumped to "I don't like this song" when The Secret came on. Get some taste, kid - that's an amazing song. (I joke, because my poor children have absorbed some of my musical tastes - they constantly ask me to play the first three songs on the new Mustard Plug album)

RIP Greg, thanks for all the music and memories.

WaffleZombie
May 10, 2003

"Identity Crisis" Murderer Wild Guess #333:Prince "Lady Killer Charming "Well, I AM the Adversa"



Anyone else going to This Is Not Croydon Fest this weekend?

APPEARING
FRIDAY, APRIL 19TH
Spring Heeled Jack
Hub City Stompers
Title Holder
Brunt of It
The End Times

APPEARING
SATURDAY, APRIL 20TH

The Suicide Machines
Voodoo Glow Skulls
Folly
Sonic Boom Six
We Are the Union
J. Navarro & the Traitors
Devon K & the Solutions
Half Past Two
The Pomps
The Manipulators

APPEARING
SUNDAY, APRIL 21ST

The Aggrolites
The Toasters
Catch 22
Omnigone
Faintest Idea
The Best of the Worst
Eastern Standard Time
Nick & the Adversaries
West Kensingtons

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


drat, catch-22 is still kicking??

hot take but while Streetlight is way better, I thought Dinosaur Sounds and Permanent Revolution were solid post-Tomas albums

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug

Snow Cone Capone posted:

drat, catch-22 is still kicking??

hot take but while Streetlight is way better, I thought Dinosaur Sounds and Permanent Revolution were solid post-Tomas albums

They're both fantastic and I'm sad they never did anything since, I was especially excited to see how they'd follow up Permanent Revolution since it has such a great and unique sound.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!
I just got tickets to see Primus this summer, which is not remotely ska. However, Fishbone is opening for them!

I've never had a chance to see Fishbone play live, but I've heard others say they're one of the best live bands ever, and they still play a lot of their early ska stuff on stage.

Super excited to see both bands.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Primus is fantastic live if you're into them and even if not they're a very entertaining experience!

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug
Speaking of shows, Jeff just announced a "very special ultra long" show in LA

https://x.com/jeffrosenstock/status/1780295091464348034

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!

Snow Cone Capone posted:

Primus is fantastic live if you're into them and even if not they're a very entertaining experience!

Oh, I love Primus; they're just not as good a fit for this particular thread. I've never seen them live, though judging by the South Park concert they did on Paramount+ last year, it's gonna be great.

I'll admit I'm not remotely up on modern ska. Most of the bands I was into in the 90's and early 2000's aren't around anymore.

No Doubt played at Coachella last weekend (maybe this coming weekend too?). I figured they'd lean hard into their pop/rock radio singles, and they kinda did, but they did a ton of their ska songs too. They sounded absolutely amazing, which was a huge disconnect from my expectations before tuning in.

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.
How many original members of Spring Heeled Jack are left?

aricoarena
Aug 7, 2006
citizenh8 bought me this account because he is a total qt.

Snow Cone Capone posted:

drat, catch-22 is still kicking??

hot take but while Streetlight is way better, I thought Dinosaur Sounds and Permanent Revolution were solid post-Tomas albums

I saw them when Dinosaur Sounds came out, it's good as is Permanent Revolution. But i have a very subjective problem with Permanent revolutions, the vocals are way too prominent in the mix, i find it off putting.

WaffleZombie
May 10, 2003

"Identity Crisis" Murderer Wild Guess #333:Prince "Lady Killer Charming "Well, I AM the Adversa"



Snow Cone Capone posted:

drat, catch-22 is still kicking??

hot take but while Streetlight is way better, I thought Dinosaur Sounds and Permanent Revolution were solid post-Tomas albums

You want to feel really loving old? Their trombone player's son is playing with them now. https://www.facebook.com/njcatch22

davecrazy posted:

How many original members of Spring Heeled Jack are left?

3, I think? Chris rejoined after the Bosstones broke up.


aricoarena posted:

I saw them when Dinosaur Sounds came out, it's good as is Permanent Revolution. But i have a very subjective problem with Permanent revolutions, the vocals are way too prominent in the mix, i find it off putting.

I remember seeing them right before Dinosaur Sounds came out, and it was one of my worst concert experiences. The album wasn't out yet, but songs from it made up over more than half the setlist. I'd seen them before and I've seen them since and they've been good, but I've always held a grudge against the album for that dumb reason. But Permanent Revolution is good! They got added to this bill at the last minute because the Bar Stool Preachers dropped off. I was looking forward to seeing them, but Catch 22 is a fine replacement.

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

WaffleZombie posted:

You want to feel really loving old? Their trombone player's son is playing with them now. https://www.facebook.com/njcatch22

3, I think? Chris rejoined after the Bosstones broke up.


I feel like some of these bands are turning into a mirror of like when my parents would go see the Temptations in concert in the 90's but it was like one original member of the Temptations and 4 other dudes who were close enough.

interpunct
Aug 2, 2006

Bad girls think that you're being a boob punch

WhiteHowler posted:

No Doubt played at Coachella last weekend (maybe this coming weekend too?). I figured they'd lean hard into their pop/rock radio singles, and they kinda did, but they did a ton of their ska songs too. They sounded absolutely amazing, which was a huge disconnect from my expectations before tuning in.

Getting paid stupid money to play two shows, they could have totally phoned in their performance but No Doubt's set was easily one of the best of the sets that I watched online last weekend. Looking forward to watching their set on Saturday if Coachella streams it on YT again. Probably going to go all in on the SoCal ska-adjacent bands and watch the sets by Sublime and The Aquabats as well if they're made available.

As an aside, I'm kind of upset that Vampire Weekend's headlining shows in New York get a Billy Joel cover band while their LA show gets this:



EDIT:
VW discussing their LA show bill at the hopefully timestamped link (24:52 into the video if the link doesn't work):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wMavKf7i6g&t=1492s

interpunct fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Apr 18, 2024

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!

interpunct posted:

Getting paid stupid money to play two shows, they could have totally phoned in their performance but No Doubt's set was easily one of the best of the sets that I watched online last weekend. Looking forward to watching their set on Saturday if Coachella streams it on YT again. Probably going to go all in on the SoCal ska-adjacent bands and watch the sets by Sublime and The Aquabats as well if they're made available.

I believe Coachella is streaming on YouTube again this weekend.

Ska and ska-adjacent stuff:
- The Aquabats - Saturday @3:55pm Pacific (Sonora stage)
- Sublime - Saturday @ 6:05pm Pacific (Coachella stage)
- No Doubt - Saturday @ 9:55pm Pacific (Coachella stage)

Vampire Weekend (which has a little ska flavor in a couple of their songs, I guess?) played last weekend but currently isn't on the schedule for this coming weekend.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


some of Sublime's performance is on YT

IMO Brad's kid seemed a little amateurish but God drat if he doesn't sound like his dad

hedgecore
May 2, 2004

WaffleZombie posted:

Anyone else going to This Is Not Croydon Fest this weekend?

I hope you win this:
https://twitter.com/chill_biz/status/1780738219547521140

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

WhiteHowler posted:

I just got tickets to see Primus this summer, which is not remotely ska. However, Fishbone is opening for them!

I've never had a chance to see Fishbone play live, but I've heard others say they're one of the best live bands ever, and they still play a lot of their early ska stuff on stage.

Super excited to see both bands.

Fishbone live kicks rear end and yea these days they mostly play their earlier stuff and not very much of their metal and more experimental stuff from the mid to late 90s. Definitely one of my favorite bands.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Snow Cone Capone posted:

drat, catch-22 is still kicking??

hot take but while Streetlight is way better, I thought Dinosaur Sounds and Permanent Revolution were solid post-Tomas albums

This made me think "I wonder if the River City Rebels are still together"

and then this popped up today.



I will go for the Pilfers and River City Rebels and probably get reminded very quickly that we thought the River City Rebels were kind of washed up 20 years ago. Just thinking about seeing them, The Toasters, Big D and the Kids Table, Worthless United and other Northeastern punk and ska bands at the same two venues over and over again.

MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Apr 19, 2024

interpunct
Aug 2, 2006

Bad girls think that you're being a boob punch

WhiteHowler posted:

I believe Coachella is streaming on YouTube again this weekend.

Ska and ska-adjacent stuff:
- The Aquabats - Saturday @3:55pm Pacific (Sonora stage)

On YouTube, the Sonora stage channel is being replaced by the Yuma stage. No Aquabats stream this weekend. :(

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


MassRafTer posted:

This made me think "I wonder if the River City Rebels are still together"

and then this popped up today.



I will go for the Pilfers and River City Rebels and probably get reminded very quickly that we thought the River City Rebels were kind of washed up 20 years ago. Just thinking about seeing them, The Toasters, Big D and the Kids Table, Worthless United and other Northeastern punk and ska bands at the same two venues over and over again.

I had to stop listening to RCR because the lead singer is a gross sleazebag. That last album cover of theirs, it turns out, is unironic.

Was fun seeing them on NYE at CBGBs though

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!

interpunct posted:

On YouTube, the Sonora stage channel is being replaced by the Yuma stage. No Aquabats stream this weekend. :(

That's a bummer. Sonora was my favorite stage last weekend.

WaffleZombie
May 10, 2003

"Identity Crisis" Murderer Wild Guess #333:Prince "Lady Killer Charming "Well, I AM the Adversa"




That's a great design, and I will gladly buy some stickers and a tote bag, but my wife will kill me if I bring home a skate deck. But I don't think I've seen you since AMR20, so I'm excited to see you and catch up!

davecrazy posted:

I feel like some of these bands are turning into a mirror of like when my parents would go see the Temptations in concert in the 90's but it was like one original member of the Temptations and 4 other dudes who were close enough.

Yeah, I've thought about that a lot, but I'll definitely cut SHJ some slack on that since, you know, two of the original members are dead. RBF was just Aaron by the end, but the trumpet player had been around since Cheer Up! Or with Less Than Jake, JR isn't an original member, but he's been in the band so long, is there a difference? Especially with the size of most ska bands, it's a very Ship of Theseus question.

Misc
Sep 19, 2008

there's "original members" and there's "classic lineup." scott wasn't an original member of reel big fish but definitely part of the classic lineup. johnny xmas has been in the band for 20 years but not part of the classic lineup. sorry, johnny.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


I had an absolutely miserable opening half of my day but then I got to see Sonic Boom Six live and felt eighteen again.

SgtScruffy
Dec 27, 2003

Babies.


guppy posted:

Dicky Barrett is now playing a show to raise money for RFK Jr.'s presidential campaign. I have rarely been so disappointed in a former hero of mine.

This caused me to go down a wiki hole and find out that Dicky joined up with a bunch of other people who were kicked out of their bands for being antivax and made a band called “The Defiant” lol

When Pigs Cry
Oct 23, 2012
Buglord
Hell yeah he did, they played their song about how the kids these days are always on their drat phones on Kimmel (the show he got fired from for being an antivax dipshit) a few weeks ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0UKqElWjMU

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

WhiteHowler posted:

I just got tickets to see Primus this summer, which is not remotely ska. However, Fishbone is opening for them!

I've never had a chance to see Fishbone play live, but I've heard others say they're one of the best live bands ever, and they still play a lot of their early ska stuff on stage.

Super excited to see both bands.

I just saw that Norwood Fisher has left or got kicked out of Fishbone, which to me is huge. I mean the Fisher brothers are where they got their name from. Not sure what’s going on, but it’s really disappointing.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!

Bird in a Blender posted:

I just saw that Norwood Fisher has left or got kicked out of Fishbone, which to me is huge. I mean the Fisher brothers are where they got their name from. Not sure what’s going on, but it’s really disappointing.

Oh, that sucks. Only two members of the original lineup are left.

Wikipedia article update:

quote:

On April 25th, 2024, Fishbone put out a vague posting on Facebook, indicating a major lineup change for their upcoming live dates. After the magazine "Q" reached out to their management, it was revealed by founding member Christopher Dowd, that founding members Norwood Fisher and "Dirty" Walt Kibby had left the band. Dowd and Angelo Moore would continue to perform, with new musicians to be announced, as Fishbone.

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
As usual, ignore all of this unless or until you have a new record in your hands, but Tomas posted this indicating new Streetlight album late this year:

quote:

1. The album is 85% finished being recorded and should be at around 90-95% finished within a month or so. I say this with an estimated 82-96% degree of accuracy. Based on previous experiences and evidence, the accuracy of my personal concept of accuracy usually hovers right around 78%. It’s almost done is what I’m saying here.
2. The album is, barring any unforeseen catastrophes, being released by (and close to) the end of this year.
https://www.facebook.com/SManifesto/posts/990366829125690

Much more detail in the post.

snackcakes
May 7, 2005

A joint venture of Matsumura Fishworks and Tamaribuchi Heavy Manufacturing Concern

guppy posted:

As usual, ignore all of this unless or until you have a new record in your hands, but Tomas posted this indicating new Streetlight album late this year:

https://www.facebook.com/SManifesto/posts/990366829125690

Much more detail in the post.

This got me very excited and I'm going to do my very best at forgetting I read it, as I fully expect the album to take another 2 years minimum to be released.

Misc
Sep 19, 2008

guppy posted:

1. The album is 85% finished being recorded and should be at around 90-95% finished within a month or so. I say this with an estimated 82-96% degree of accuracy. Based on previous experiences and evidence, the accuracy of my personal concept of accuracy usually hovers right around 78%. It’s almost done is what I’m saying here.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!

Bird in a Blender posted:

I just saw that Norwood Fisher has left or got kicked out of Fishbone, which to me is huge. I mean the Fisher brothers are where they got their name from. Not sure what’s going on, but it’s really disappointing.

Q magazine interviewed Christopher Dowd about the Fishbone changes. It's a good read. I know there are two sides to every story, but it doesn't make Norwood sound great.

https://qthemusic.com/p/fishbone-lineup-without-norwood-fisher-and-dirty-walt-kibby/

Maybe they can talk Philip Fisher into coming back so there's still a Fisher in Fishbone.

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
We're certainly only hearing one side of the story, but yeah, it makes me wonder if there was not just a struggle for control but even some financial shenanigans going on behind the scenes. Interestingly, they didn't really get into any of the details about why Kibby left; hopefully if there were financial misdeeds he wasn't also involved.

I have never done a ton of listening to Fishbone; I remember Party At Ground Zero and not a lot else, and when I have tried randomly sampling their discography, I haven't always been into what I heard. It's possible I just don't like their sound, but I'm interested in giving them a real shot; are there particular standout albums or tracks I should listen to?

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!
Fishbone's style shifted a lot through the decades. A lot of their songs are Ska-inspired, but I feel their best album is The Reality of My Surroundings, which is straight early-90's alt-rock.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


This tour already looked amazing but the Philly date is straight up a festival

https://twitter.com/BigDBoston/status/1783139617283403874

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guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
Thought I read about this here, but it looks like Joe Gittleman (ex-Bosstones bassist) is putting out his own solo album on Bad Time:

https://badtimerecords.bandcamp.com/album/hold-up

Single out now, album out June 21. I like the single. Also featured on the record are personnel from Big D, Pietasters and Bad Operation. There's a full list of personnel on the album page.

Bad Time are really killing it. Most of the noteworthy ska releases of the past couple years have been under their imprint, I think? I never thought I would regularly check a record label's page, but I check theirs.

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