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thrawn86
May 26, 2006

Sure, I got a secret. More than one...

^^abandon thy wallet, all ye who enter here. good luck! why only a 4 power? with my 9x, 60% of the 2inch bull is covered at 100 yards, and this is immensely frustrating to someone with eyesight as bad as mine.

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Doc Faustus
Sep 6, 2005

Philippe is such an angry eater

Regarding Butler Creek Hotlips mags, has anyone had trouble with the feed lips on them just getting destroyed by the action? At the range the other day I'd say I had 5 or so feeding problems per mag. The mag lips look like they're both a) covered in carbon build-up and b) worn down, but I don't have another hotlips mag to compare it so.

thrawn86
May 26, 2006

Sure, I got a secret. More than one...

yeah the ones without the steel lips will do that. for the price these days, I don't think theres any reason not to get the TI mags.

Aran
Jan 17, 2007

by elpintogrande


BOrangeFury posted:

I think it has something to do with the fact that I still live with them, where as they were married and out of their houses by age 20. We're also great friends, and I don't mind living with them, but still...

You think?

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

Ride the rainbow


Doc Faustus posted:

Regarding Butler Creek Hotlips mags, has anyone had trouble with the feed lips on them just getting destroyed by the action? At the range the other day I'd say I had 5 or so feeding problems per mag. The mag lips look like they're both a) covered in carbon build-up and b) worn down, but I don't have another hotlips mag to compare it so.

Yes, unfortunately. The steel lips are a lot better, but they cost three times as much. Even though I don't own any, I'd say get the TI ones.

Professor Awesome
Jan 16, 2005

'sup gordon

walrusman posted:

Yes, unfortunately. The steel lips are a lot better, but they cost three times as much. Even though I don't own any, I'd say get the TI ones.

You mean Butler Creek Steel Lips mags cost three times as much as Hot Lips? I think they cost like 5 or 6 bucks more.

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

Ride the rainbow


Professor Awesome posted:

You mean Butler Creek Steel Lips mags cost three times as much as Hot Lips? I think they cost like 5 or 6 bucks more.

Holy crap, you're right. I am used to PNW pricing, where Bi-Mart perpetually has the plastic ones on sale for $12, and the steel ones can only be found at gun shows for $30.

upsciLLion
Feb 9, 2006

Bees?


walrusman posted:

Holy crap, you're right. I am used to PNW pricing, where Bi-Mart perpetually has the plastic ones on sale for $12, and the steel ones can only be found at gun shows for $30.

I love the poo poo out of Bi-Mart.

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

Ride the rainbow


upsciLLion posted:

I love the poo poo out of Bi-Mart.

They have UMC JHP .38+P for $15/box, the same as the cheap FMJ plinking ammo. I was rather pleased with that.

QuarkMartial
Sep 25, 2004

I've seen the future, and it has hooves.

Going to buy a 10/22 either tonight or Monday. Any idea where I can get one of those full-length stocks posted earlier in the thread? From what I can see, they only come with the international version.

QuarkMartial fucked around with this message at Mar 22, 2008 around 23:39

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


QuarkMartial posted:

Any idea where I can get one of those full-length stocks posted earlier in the thread?
Be prepared to spend as much as your 10/22 cost.

These links won't parse. For some reason the forum software is putting spaces in spots where spaces don't belong.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ruger-10-22-Mannlicher-Rifle-Stock-GunsmithingGun-Parts_W0QQitemZ380008387813QQcategoryZ73949QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWINQ3aPOST0Q3aRECOQ3aBIDQQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-Ruger-10-22-Mannlicher-stock-RARE-No-longer-made_W0QQitemZ130206746048QQcategoryZ73949QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWINQ3aPOST0Q3aRECOQ3aBIDQQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/RUGER-10-22-GUN-STOCK-LAMINATED-MANNLICHER-FACTORY_W0QQitemZ170203516776QQcategoryZ73949QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWINQ3aPOST0Q3aRECOQ3aBIDQQcmdZViewItem

QuarkMartial
Sep 25, 2004

I've seen the future, and it has hooves.

Hm. Will that fit a regular 10/22? If it will, then I'm jumping on that first one.

Edit: I realize that's sort of a dumb question, but I want to make sure.

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
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of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


95% sure it will. The international appears to have identical sights, receiver, etc so it certainly should fit.

devilsbite
Apr 29, 2005

9mm


QuarkMartial posted:

Hm. Will that fit a regular 10/22? If it will, then I'm jumping on that first one.

Edit: I realize that's sort of a dumb question, but I want to make sure.

Not a dumb question at all. It should fit, I've got one and they are interchangeable with the carbine. I'll dig it out tomorrow to verify.

SanitysEdge
Jul 28, 2005


I'm looking to sink money into my 10/22 for because my birthday is coming up soon.



I want to get tech sights and that butler creek folding stock as pictured above. I know the tech sights are great but I want to know more about the stock. Ive seen a few people who posted in this thread either having one or asking a little bit about them. I have some more specific questions such as how much do they weigh compared to the standard wood stock the gun comes with? How is the balance on it? How is the texture of it, is it hard plastic, a little rubbery, or a lot of rubbery? What about the pistol grip, is it comfortable?

Does anyone have any other recommendations for folding stocks?

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

Ride the rainbow


SanitysEdge posted:

I'm looking to sink money into my 10/22 for because my birthday is coming up soon.



I want to get tech sights and that butler creek folding stock as pictured above. I know the tech sights are great but I want to know more about the stock. Ive seen a few people who posted in this thread either having one or asking a little bit about them. I have some more specific questions such as how much do they weigh compared to the standard wood stock the gun comes with? How is the balance on it? How is the texture of it, is it hard plastic, a little rubbery, or a lot of rubbery? What about the pistol grip, is it comfortable?

Does anyone have any other recommendations for folding stocks?

That stock is great.

It's a little heavier than the synthetic stock, a little lighter than wood. Balance is fine; the metal at the back and plastic at the front keep it from being too front-heavy. It's pretty hard plastic, but the checkering is nice on mine. Pistol grip is not perfect but it's better than, say, an A2 grip on an AR-15. I'm pretty sure all other folding stocks for the 10/22 are crap compared to this one, but I would love to see what other people have.

edit: probably shouldn't pay more than $80 for one, FYI.

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

I have the 50th and Final Pony Av!

SanitysEdge posted:

folding stock
Why do you want a folding stock? No really. Do you need one because you'll be getting in and out of vehicles with the gun a lot? Because you need to store the gun in a smaller place than it would fit with a normal stock? Because you think it looks cooler? Any of those are valid reasons I guess, but a fixed stock is going to be a lot better for actually shooting the gun.

NosmoKing
Nov 12, 2004

I have a rifle and a frying pan and I know how to use them

thrawn86 posted:

^^abandon thy wallet, all ye who enter here. good luck! why only a 4 power? with my 9x, 60% of the 2inch bull is covered at 100 yards, and this is immensely frustrating to someone with eyesight as bad as mine.

4X for a bench gun? For shame! You need something in the 30-40-50X category. A gigantic, fragile, Hubble-like telescopic white elephant on top of your rifle shows your SERIOUS about target shooting. It also shows that you like looking up over the scope every 2 seconds to try to get the target into the 9" by 9" field of view at 100 yards.

That, plus watching the crosshairs bounce all over the drat place from your heartbeat is FUN!


Your goofy post author here is shooting a scope set at 40X off his knee at a 1" target set at 55 yards. The projectile (in this case, a .177 pellet) has to pass INISDE the 1" circle to score a hit.


Same guy, different gun. The scope on this rifle is set at 32X, mostly because that's all it's got. Same target.

Yes, I hit both targets. No, I generally don't hit both targets. It's the hardest target on the course and I managed to sneak in hits both times I was photographed. I usually just hit the faceplate of the target, not the kill zone. At least half of the time. Gotta go look at score books.

Mensur
Aug 1, 2007

EnGAYge!


SanitysEdge posted:

I'm looking to sink money into my 10/22 for because my birthday is coming up soon.

Does anyone have any other recommendations for folding stocks?

If you're actually going to shoot it regularly and don't just want something to look cool don't get a folding stock. I wanted to have a nice tactical looking 10/22 myself but after purchasing a different folding stock rifle I know I've purchased my last. They may be cool to look at but they are simply not fun to shoot.

Instead I got this Christie and Christie beauty. It comes with the three rails pictured and a nice solid vertical grip.



For the bull barrel version it's $165 and worth every penny. I've never held any other stock for any kind of rifle that has felt this good to me. The standard barrel version runs about $135 or you want to save a few bucks Tapco makes something similar for around $90 but I can't personally vouch for that.

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!


I am on my way to pick up my 10/22 and I plan on stopping by the range on the way home and firing off a few rounds through it. I might even make a box thread because this is my first gun ever.

Combatace
Feb 29, 2008


I hate to post about something from a while ago, but for my first rifle, I'm considering a 10/22, and looking through this thread, I saw this:


What kind of stock is that? I'd love to get a stock like that.

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!


Is there any reason why my two receiver pins won't come out? I've been trying for about 10 minutes and I am about to give up.

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

Ride the rainbow


I assume you mean the two pins holding the trigger group into the receiver, once you've taken the whole action out of the stock? No, there's no reason they wouldn't come out; they're probably just a little tight. Squirt a little WD40 on them, let them sit for an hour, and then go to town with a hammer and a punch. You would have a pretty hard time breaking anything in that vicinity, so don't be shy.

Doc Faustus
Sep 6, 2005

Philippe is such an angry eater

Craptacular posted:

Why do you want a folding stock? No really. Do you need one because you'll be getting in and out of vehicles with the gun a lot? Because you need to store the gun in a smaller place than it would fit with a normal stock? Because you think it looks cooler? Any of those are valid reasons I guess, but a fixed stock is going to be a lot better for actually shooting the gun.

I'm pretty sure most people who would buy those get them for looks. Hell, the whole reason I bought a 10/22 was to rice it out and have some fun. No, I don't care that it's not terribly accurate. When I want accurate, I'll lay down the cash for a Rem 700.

When I want to go loud and drop tangos for three cents a round, though, I'll grab a 10/22.

Sure, if I won the lottery or whatever, I'd gladly drop the cash for some Volsquartsen internals, a match barrel, a massive scope, etc. Until then, though, it's a tacticlol folding stock and maybe a 4x scope from craigslist.

ilovepy
Oct 10, 2007
mmm... py

SanitysEdge posted:

I want to get tech sights and that butler creek folding stock as pictured above.

I have that folding stock and I love it. With the folding stock the gun JUST fits into my range bag. Good stuff.

QuarkMartial
Sep 25, 2004

I've seen the future, and it has hooves.

Guess what I bought today:

It shoots the rounds on the far left. Click for bigger

Two questions:
1) I know the bipods pictured earlier in the thread are made by Harris. What's a good place to get one?

2) Honestly, I like the 10 round magazines. Cheap place to get those?

Bonus Lightning Round Question:
Any chance of some sort of glowing sights? I might put a scope on there eventually, but taking the center out of a target with irons is so much more pleasing.

Edit: I thought of something else. The auto bolt close that's been mentioned. What exactly does it do? I know now that you have to hold the bolt back, press and release the bolt hold, then release the bolt. What changes in that process?

QuarkMartial fucked around with this message at Mar 25, 2008 around 01:24

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



QuarkMartial posted:

The auto bolt close that's been mentioned. What exactly does it do? I know now that you have to hold the bolt back, press and release the bolt hold, then release the bolt. What changes in that process?
To open: Same as before, you pull back on the handle and press the BH to lock it.

To close: You just pull back on the handle and let it go, no need to press the BH.

thrawn86
May 26, 2006

Sure, I got a secret. More than one...

QuarkMartial posted:

1) I know the bipods pictured earlier in the thread are made by Harris. What's a good place to get one?

2) Honestly, I like the 10 round magazines. Cheap place to get those?

1)I got a shooter's ridge clone on ebay for 40$. I haven't had any problems, its very sturdy.
2)a while back I got some on midway for 12 or 13$. I hated them at first because I kept having feeding/ejecting issues, but it turns out I just needed to 'polish' my 'guide rod' (hurr)

edit: ph4lcon has some cool fiber optic sights
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2674122&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=7#post337623890

edit2: here is my SR bipod, for comparison

http://kalleboo.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/03/036736276e1cf09048f955262fbc430b43c27fa4.jpg
http://ft.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/eb/eba0bc200bbc31ad81eb443dd9301885dccc93ed.jpg
http://kalleboo.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/9e/9eac7da3dbcfc10912cd2fa916ef88cf828c06dd.jpg

thrawn86 fucked around with this message at Mar 25, 2008 around 13:07

devilsbite
Apr 29, 2005

9mm


devilsbite posted:

Not a dumb question at all. It should fit, I've got one and they are interchangeable with the carbine. I'll dig it out tomorrow to verify.

Ok, it took 2 days. Crappy phone pics back me up. Better pics available if interested.



Goky
Jan 11, 2005
Goky is like Goku only more kawaii ^____^

I'm not sure if this has been asked/covered in this thread, but I just bought some cheap Remington Thunderbolt ammo (150 rounds) and did some internet searching and read some horror stories about the wax coating ruining rifling and turning the exit hole of the barrel (I'm not so great on gun terminology yet ) into a nice oval shape. Should I be concerned and perhaps just suck up the loss and buy some better ammo?

Thanks!

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

Ride the rainbow


Goky posted:

I'm not sure if this has been asked/covered in this thread, but I just bought some cheap Remington Thunderbolt ammo (150 rounds) and did some internet searching and read some horror stories about the wax coating ruining rifling and turning the exit hole of the barrel (I'm not so great on gun terminology yet ) into a nice oval shape. Should I be concerned and perhaps just suck up the loss and buy some better ammo?

Thanks!

Never heard of that before, not sure how that would happen. At any rate, 150 rounds won't hurt your gun. Go ahead and do what people have been talking about, i.e. trying a bunch of different kinds.

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


Goky posted:

horror stories about the wax coating ruining rifling and turning the exit hole of the barrel (I'm not so great on gun terminology yet ) into a nice oval shape.
Worst case scenario: you have to spend a little longer cleaning it next time. A little wax won't do anything permanent.

NosmoKing
Nov 12, 2004

I have a rifle and a frying pan and I know how to use them

Pitch posted:

Worst case scenario: you have to spend a little longer cleaning it next time. A little wax won't do anything permanent.

Exactly. The rounds will be more gooey feeling than anything else you'll handle. They get poo poo stuck to them in a quick and speedy hurry, so carrying them in your pocket is a nice way to send clumps of lint downrange.

THey gunk up the action quickly as well, but they aren't going to BREAK anything.

That round thingie at the end of the barrel is generally referred to as the muzzle and the specific area directly adjacent to the hole that makes up the hole/barrel junction at the muzzle end is called the crown. The crown is often more finely machined and finished than the rest of the muzzle.

No, you aren't going to end up with an oval muzzle because you shot Thunderbolt ammo. It's cheap (but dirty and 1 out of every 100 or so will misfire) plinking ammo and that's that.

Goky
Jan 11, 2005
Goky is like Goku only more kawaii ^____^

Thanks guys. I went ahead and shot about 100 rounds but then I had to go. My muzzle (thanks!) is still circular.

About 8 rounds out of the 100 misfired though, that was pretty disappointing. I definitely wouldn't mind spending a little money on something a tad more consistent next time.

Goky fucked around with this message at Mar 26, 2008 around 01:03

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

Ride the rainbow


Goky posted:

Thanks guys. I went ahead and shot about 100 rounds but then I had to go. My muzzle (thanks!) is still circular.

About 8 rounds out of the 100 misfired though, that was pretty disappointing. I definitely wouldn't mind spending a little money on something a tad more consistent next time.

I'm just really not a big fan of Remington's .22lr offerings. Federal (all flavors, in fact) is my fave. Seriously, try a dab of everything you can get your hands on.

Also what do you mean by "misfired?" Dented rims but no bang-bang? That has happened to me probably twenty times in 300 rounds of Thunderbolt, and maybe once or twice in 10,000 rounds of everything else under the sun.

Goky
Jan 11, 2005
Goky is like Goku only more kawaii ^____^

walrusman posted:

Also what do you mean by "misfired?" Dented rims but no bang-bang? That has happened to me probably twenty times in 300 rounds of Thunderbolt, and maybe once or twice in 10,000 rounds of everything else under the sun.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

Another little tidbit, the amount of soot they produce seems a little horrible. I've heard federals are a lot cleaner, but prone to duds, but I guess I'll try them anyway. I also wanted to try some CCI stuff. New things to do! I'm relatively new to all of this. It's exciting.

QuarkMartial
Sep 25, 2004

I've seen the future, and it has hooves.

devilsbite posted:

Ok, it took 2 days. Crappy phone pics back me up. Better pics available if interested.





Not a problem at all. Thanks for taking the time and pictures.

I will have the best 10/22 ever.

thrawn86 posted:

1)I got a shooter's ridge clone on ebay for 40$. I haven't had any problems, its very sturdy.
2)a while back I got some on midway for 12 or 13$. I hated them at first because I kept having feeding/ejecting issues, but it turns out I just needed to 'polish' my 'guide rod' (hurr)

edit: ph4lcon has some cool fiber optic sights
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...7#post337623890

edit2: here is my SR bipod, for comparison

http://kalleboo.mirror.waffleimages...30b43c27fa4.jpg
http://ft.mirror.waffleimages.com/f...885dccc93ed.jpg
http://kalleboo.mirror.waffleimages...8cf828c06dd.jpg

Hm. I'll dig around some more and see what I can find. Thanks.

Uncle Caveman posted:

To open: Same as before, you pull back on the handle and press the BH to lock it.

To close: You just pull back on the handle and let it go, no need to press the BH.

Awesome. Though I have another question: From what I've read, I just file off that little notch that's on there now and just make sure it's slightly arc-shaped. I think I'll try that first.

Oh, what size punches do I need?

Doc Faustus
Sep 6, 2005

Philippe is such an angry eater

QuarkMartial posted:

Oh, what size punches do I need?

Why are people always trying to buy very specific punches? I just went to Ace Hardware and bought a 6-pack of punches. So far it's worked just fine for a 10/22, a Mossberg 500, and assembling an AR.

thrawn86
May 26, 2006

Sure, I got a secret. More than one...

^^ I used an allen wrench and a hammer

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Mensur
Aug 1, 2007

EnGAYge!


Anyone know where I can get a cheap used 10/22 receiver?

I'm getting a good deal on a used, never been fired stainless 10/22 that I only need for the receiver for a project that I want quality parts for. All the rest of the rifle is pretty much going to go to waste. If I can find a receiver cheaply enough I'll use it and the rest of the parts to build a bullpup just for fun.

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