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a life less posted:We used to put the pill at the very back of the cat's mouth and then stroke the underside of the throat until the cat swallowed. The stroking will cue the swallowing reaction. Yeah, I was thinking that but once we crack open her mouth slightly it clamps shut. I got unintentionally bitten numerous times just from her reflex kicking in and her mouth shutting.
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the posted:Yeah, I was thinking that but once we crack open her mouth slightly it clamps shut. I got unintentionally bitten numerous times just from her reflex kicking in and her mouth shutting. It may take two people, one to hold the cat and one to pry her jaws apart so you can pop the pill in (way back, past her tongue). You should be able to hold her mouth open--her jaw can't be stronger than your arms.
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| # ? Sep 24, 2009 01:25 |
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the posted:How do I give my cat these goddamn pills? She can eat around the food in Pill pockets, and we just had to basically force parts of them into her mouth for the past ten minutes, which slowly dissolved in her mouth as we forced it closed, and now she's walking around with this HUGE saliva drool trail. I have to do this every day for the next two weeks. Have you tried giving a few pill pockets pill free at first, to warm her up, then sneak one in with the medicine? Is the pill small enough that you can use just half a pill pocket to make it more bite size? Or just use an old fashioned piller. Tried and true is sometimes the best way.
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little green jewel posted:There are only two no-kills in my state and neither of them is even remotely close. I don't have a car. Don't get me wrong, I'm sorry the owner is irresponsible and I don't want the cats destroyed, but they shouldn't be here. My dogs would be just thrilled with their new box of warm squeaky toys, and I don't have anything at all for a cat, let alone a half-wild new mother with kittens. Goddamn. My whole family lives in that area. My mom/sis have five cats in their small house, so that's out. Have you had any luck homing this litter and the momma?
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I am not sure if this deserves its own thread or not, so in here it goes! My kitty recently started up a nasty new habit: bringing people "gifts" of her own poop. No one has ever seen (or smelled, for that matter) her drop a deuce on the floor, but we have seen tooth marks in the little poops (which are always dry, not fresh), leading us to believe that she is picking up her own poop from her litter box and placing it around the house. Why is my cat gifting turds? Anyone got suggestions to get her to stop this? Her litterbox is clean and she has plenty of litter in there, and she poops in the box, too. She just likes to take some of her poops out and move them around the house. 
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| # ? Sep 24, 2009 02:26 |
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the posted:How do I give my cat these goddamn pills? She can eat around the food in Pill pockets, and we just had to basically force parts of them into her mouth for the past ten minutes, which slowly dissolved in her mouth as we forced it closed, and now she's walking around with this HUGE saliva drool trail. I have to do this every day for the next two weeks. Ask your vet for a pill popper. It's like a syringe only it's a hollow tube and the pill goes in one end and there is a plunger on the other. You get the end with the pill in the back of the cats throat and jam down on the plunger and it will basically shoot the pill into the back of the throat and cause the cat to inadvertently swallow the pill. It helps to rub their throat while you do it. (If you are a girl or a guy not icked out, the best description of it is a tampon applicator only made out of plastic and a pill goes in the end.) How big are the pills? Is it small enough to hide in baby food and she'll swallow it whole in her frenzy? Cats go nuts for baby food. I get the smaller jars for 2-3 month olds, beef flavor nom nom. This is a good treat for after the pill too. You can also call the vet and see if it's okay to halve the pill or crush it. Some medication it's okay to do this with, others not. If you can halve and make it smaller you can try the baby food trick or if you can crush it, you can crush it and spoon it to her in a few good globs of baby food. When trying to pry open the cats jaws of death, one of the best methods I've found is to put the cat on the counter. My cats aren't allowed up there so when I set them there they are automatically a bit out of sorts and more...pliable I guess. Also, their little feets can't get traction on a counter top and get away. Put one hand around their back (so they can't back away) and hold their head, under the jaw, with your hand. Work your fingers into the corner of the mouth to get the jaw to open by kinda squeezing in and moving your fingers up and down. Then use the other hand to shove the pill or plunger in from the side of the mouth. It's easier to get them to open the mouth when you put pressure on the side, it's less likely to hurt the cat, and you don't have as far to go with the plunger, finger, pill. They also have a harder time blocking you or the pill with their tongue this way. Another way is people will sit on the floor, kind of Indian style, with one leg over the cats back like you would your arm in the above explanation so the cat can't move away. KilGrey fucked around with this message at Sep 24, 2009 around 03:31 |
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A Spider Covets posted:I am not sure if this deserves its own thread or not, so in here it goes! Is she a long hair, maybe they are getting stuck? My cat had eaten some of my hair and it got tangled in her poop, she went in the box like a good girl , but the hair was half in her, half in the turd. She thought it was chasing her  (yes I try to be better about *MY* hairballs since then, I had no idea she would be like "Hair delish!" If this is new it may be vet time just to clear any biological problems.
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| # ? Sep 24, 2009 03:59 |
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ChairmanMeow posted:Is she a long hair, maybe they are getting stuck? My cat had eaten some of my hair and it got tangled in her poop, she went in the box like a good girl , but the hair was half in her, half in the turd. She thought it was chasing her Yep, she's a long-haired cat! I kind of wondered about that, too, but this problem started after I moved, so I'm not sure if it's her long butt-hairs that are the problem, or what. The tooth marks on the poo are kind of baffling too. I'll give the vet a call and ask her if she thinks I need to bring her in, thanks for the suggestion!
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A Spider Covets posted:Yep, she's a long-haired cat! I kind of wondered about that, too, but this problem started after I moved, so I'm not sure if it's her long butt-hairs that are the problem, or what. The tooth marks on the poo are kind of baffling too. Biting at it to get it out of her fur maybe?
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I totally didn't think of that. Hm. Well, I think I'll call the vet in the morning just to be safe, but I think I remember someone here mentioning that you can trim the hair around there on long-haired cats if they're having problems?
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| # ? Sep 24, 2009 04:20 |
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A Spider Covets posted:I totally didn't think of that. Hm. Well, I think I'll call the vet in the morning just to be safe, but I think I remember someone here mentioning that you can trim the hair around there on long-haired cats if they're having problems? Yeah, I used to trim my little boys butt hairs all the time when he was a kitten. He's got long hair and hadn't yet mastered the art of crapping and not getting it on himself. Some cats never learn all that well and some are just really long haired and fuzzy. It wont do any harm to cut her butt hairs, she just might look at you all indignant for a bit for doing it.
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This is regarding cats and busy people. I want a cat. Terribly. My cat went missing several months ago, and I miss her. The problem is, I'm at school from 8.30 to 4PM, and I'm starting an evening job soon. It probably wouldn't be fair to leave a cat alone all day--but, they're pretty independent and sleep through the day quite often. I know it's not an ideal situation, but could it be feasable to get a young (not a kitten, of course) kitty with my schedule?
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Jr. posted:This is regarding cats and busy people. Get two of them and they'll keep each other company while you are gone just fine. Lots of shelters have bonded pairs they have trouble adopting out. Your situation would be perfect.
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Jr. posted:This is regarding cats and busy people. You could get like a 10 month old easily with your schedule. If you adopt 2 that are bonded or get along at the shelter they will probably not miss you at all through the day. Did your other cat go missing because she was indoor outdoor?
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| # ? Sep 24, 2009 21:06 |
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ChairmanMeow posted:You could get like a 10 month old easily with your schedule. If you adopt 2 that are bonded or get along at the shelter they will probably not miss you at all through the day. Did your other cat go missing because she was indoor outdoor? Yeah. She was quite good about it and never got lost, until that one day.
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Jr. posted:Yeah. She was quite good about it and never got lost, until that one day. If you get a new cat(s) please consider keeping it inside. There are often "My cat got hit by a car" threads on the first page.
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Anyone know of a website that give accurate information on annual dog bites and the breeds associated with them?
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KilGrey posted:Anyone know of a website that give accurate information on annual dog bites and the breeds associated with them? No, but whomever runs this blog might be able to help. http://dogattacksyouneverhearabout.blogspot.com/ I have a comment/question of my own again. Nyanko-chan went in for a tooth extraction today. The bill was $770.74. About 4 years ago we did the same thing with the same vet, and the bill was closer to $400. Has everyone experienced an increase in vet fees like that? Is the vet that I love gouging me too much?
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ChairmanMeow posted:If you get a new cat(s) please consider keeping it inside. There are often "My cat got hit by a car" threads on the first page. Yea! It would be best to keep them indoors, that way they will be there to greet you when you get home! Also way less chance of getting fleas or anything, and I think statistically indoor cats live about twice as long as their outdoor friends.
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KilGrey posted:Anyone know of a website that give accurate information on annual dog bites and the breeds associated with them? http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Att...6%20Clifton.pdf
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I posted this in PI and thought I saved it but apparently not. Yesterday some a-holes decided to try to break into my house; they failed but left a door open which let my cat out. I found him and picked about 50000000 burrs out of his fur and noticed that he was pretty filthy. After a few hours of rolling around on my clothes and carpets, he got cleaner and I didn't think anything more about it. Today I noticed that one of his thumbs (if cats had thumbs) is messed up- it's dirty and looks like it broke off pretty near the quick. The pointy bit is still attached to the surrounding fur (although I don't know it's it's still attached to the base of the claw or just stuck there with blood and dirt). He's pretty bitey when it comes to having people near his paws and the vet stresses him out. What can I do to get the area clean and get a better look at what's going on without hurting him or myself?
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Meow Cadet posted:No, but whomever runs this blog might be able to help. Thank you!  ChairmanMeow posted:http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Att...6%20Clifton.pdf I'm confused by this. I'm not sure I'm reading the titles of the columns right. Are they saying that a Pitbull has over 1,100 bites but a Border Collie has only had one? It says only dogs whose breed has been confirmed but there are a lot of mixes on there that I have a hard time believing they've confirmed without a shadow of a doubt. Maybe I'm reading the whole thing wrong. 
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hamburgerbreakfast posted:What can I do to get the area clean and get a better look at what's going on without hurting him or myself? Hamburger that sounds like it will be tricky. The best bet I think may be a towel and a friend? =/
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KilGrey posted:Thank you! They included what breed was in the press account, or animal control officers or others with expertise (meaning owner account, which leaves some margin of error) there are notes at the bottom to clarify some of the attacks, like 2 of the dogs accidentally killed toddlers with their leads, the border collie was actually one dog out of 4 involved in the reported attack that resulted in death.
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Our dog probably needs a teeth cleaning, but I've read horror stories about how vets aren't terribly well-trained in anesthesia and how a percentage of dogs are killed each year by being over-anesthetized during routine procedures. I once read a story of a woman who took her Yorkie into the vet for teeth cleaning only to be given her dead dog in a cardboard box to take home. This is why I'm afraid to have our dog go in for this (even though his breath is, like, whoa) because I could never forgive myself if something happened to him over teeth cleaning, of all things. Can anyone make me feel better about this?
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Froglin posted:Can anyone make me feel better about this? There are always horror stories, but it's selection bias that makes us remember those and not the countless thousands of anesthetized procedures that go flawlessly every day. Dental problems seem to be most common when there is not a dedicated anesthesiologist or vet present, only techs who may have to switch between tasks or animals. Ideally, you want one person monitoring anesthesia, another co-monitoring the vital signs, and a third doing the cleaning itself. And one of them should be the veterinarian. One clinic I worked at had ONE tech doing the anesthesia, monitoring, and the cleaning all by herself! She hadn't even received any training beyond what she was taught in-house. If you already have a vet and don't want to change clinics, you should definitely talk to your vet about your concerns and ask some questions: 1. How many people will be with my dog during the procedure? How many are monitoring anesthesia and vital signs vs how many are holding and cleaning? 2. Is the anesthesiologist a certified specialist? Where were they trained? How long have they worked for this clinic? How many animals have they lost? 3. What is your procedure if my dog starts having trouble on the table? How often do you perform "doggy CPR" and what is your success rate? 4. What is your post-anesthesia procedure for monitoring my dog while he wakes up? How many people monitor him and how many other dogs are they going to have to be monitoring at the same time? Will the monitor be a vet, a tech, a receptionist, etc? Will the procedure be performed early enough in the day that my dog is completely awake before I take him home? Additionally, request that your vet run pre-anesthetic bloodwork if it's not offered. This will potentially show if your dog has any hidden problems that may make coping with anesthesia difficult. (If it's not offered, that may be a warning sign to go elsewhere). If all this doesn't reassure you enough, the one thing that should definitely reduce the chance of adverse events is finding a clinic which specializes in dental work. They often charge more, but that's because more people assist in each procedure and they have better monitoring equipment.
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Don't forget that untreated dental disease can cause MAJOR problems, up to and including death. It's not "just a dental cleaning", it's a major part of your pet's preventative care, every bit as important as getting him his shots.
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What about non-cleaning dental products, like PetzLife gel and brushing? Is it possible to avoid cleaning by using daily cleaning products at home? What about those water-additive products? The possible chemical exposure that may be present in the additive products worries me a little too.
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I recently bought a house that has a fairly big backyard. I've always wanted to keep a few ducks... mostly becuase they're cute and funny - and also becuase they lay delicious eggs. I want to know about the ins and outs (pros and cons) of duck keeping. I live in Australia, so it's going to be fairly hot... I plan to install a pond, in which they can submerge fully and bathe. What else?... They will be largely kept in a duck-run, but let out under supervision (perhaps a couple of hours a day). I live on a fairly busy street, but my back yard is large and most importantly, secure. How much should I expect them to vocalize (quack)? And are they a lot of hassle to keep? Will they take a LOT of care, or are they fairly self explanatory (I spend a lot of time with my animals anyway, so they'd be getting a fair bit of attention). I was thinking of 'Indian Runners', or 'Campbells' as breeds, as they're supposed to be prolific layers, and fairly un-quack-some. Any info or insights you might have would be greatly appreciated!
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Froglin posted:What about non-cleaning dental products, like PetzLife gel and brushing? Is it possible to avoid cleaning by using daily cleaning products at home? What about those water-additive products? The possible chemical exposure that may be present in the additive products worries me a little too. You can help prevent future cleanings by brushing the dogs teeth regularly and using certain types of chews, but nothing is going to deal with the current state of the dog's teeth except a cleaning*. You need to do the cleaning and then work to keep the dog's teeth in good shape after that. I have no personal experience with the water-additives but I can promise they aren't going to replace the need for a cleaning for a dog that already needs one. *I did bring Rusty back from the brink of needing a dental cleaning by giving him raw marrow bones to chew on regularly (1x/week) and scaling his teeth at home on my own, but he is extremely tolerant of having his mouth messed with and the bones alone would not have been enough. He was only 2 at the time and had a good bit of tartar but no cavities or complicating factors.
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Froglin posted:This is why I'm afraid to have our dog go in for this (even though his breath is, like, whoa) because I could never forgive myself if something happened to him over teeth cleaning, of all things. Can anyone make me feel better about this? Like Ceridwen said, untreated dental problems can lead to big issues. Also, really bad breath can be a sign of decay/cavities. My dog had really bad breath and I figured it was just her being a dog until the morning we woke up and the side of her face was swollen to the size of a soft ball. She had an abcess from cavities. She ended up needing three teeth pulled. I felt so loving horrible, I can only imagine how much pain she must have been in up until that point and I often beat myself up wondering how long she was hurting for. Broke my heart even farther that even on the day we woke up and her face was loving huge she still greeted me with tail wags, kisses and her tennis ball for a game of fetch.  Dental care and cleanings are important, even if you brush your dogs teeth yourself your vet still should try to peek in there every once in awhile. Having her checked and cleaned now is a good baseline for future care. clam posted:Duckies! This might be better in it's own thread.
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What's up with the gang tags?
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We adopted a Shiba pup (9 months old) from a rescue last weekend and he's scratching a lot. The lady who was fostering him said that she was treating him with Revolution for fleas and heartworm which I hadn't heard of before this. She said she thinks he has fleas again and recommended we treat him with it as soon as we can get some. We have some Frontline that we give our other pup on hand that works for his weight. Does anyone know anything about Revolution or if it's better than Frontline? If this thread is to be believed then Revolution isn't good for heartworm so I may as well give him Frontline.
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rivals posted:We adopted a Shiba pup (9 months old) from a rescue last weekend and he's scratching a lot. The lady who was fostering him said that she was treating him with Revolution for fleas and heartworm which I hadn't heard of before this. She said she thinks he has fleas again and recommended we treat him with it as soon as we can get some. We have some Frontline that we give our other pup on hand that works for his weight. Does anyone know anything about Revolution or if it's better than Frontline? If this thread is to be believed then Revolution isn't good for heartworm so I may as well give him Frontline. Frontline is a good flea treatment, it doesn't have to specifically be Revolution. Have you checked to see if you can see any fleas? When was he treated last? Do you know how much to give him? Also, do you know Shibas are crazy handfuls right?
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She seemed adamant about Revolution and I'm not sure why so I just thought I'd check. We have checked and we haven't seen any yet, and our other pup isn't itching but she's on Frontline currently as well. She said he was treated about 3 weeks ago. I would assume the standard dosage of Frontline as per the box/his weight. And yes, we know how big of handfuls they are. They are my girlfriend's favorite breed, we've been looking for another puppy to adopt somewhat as a playmate for ours, he was in rescue nearby, we talked to the rescue a lot and had a decently long meeting with her and decided to adopt. Still early and it's interesting but I think we're getting through it pretty well so far.
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A lot of people prefer revolution because it covers heart worms and frontline doesn't. IMHO they are equally good on fleas, but you will need a heart wormer.
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Our puppy has come down with kennel cough, we took him to get fixed a week ago and he must have caught it there since he's not boarded otherwise. We have our training class monday at which point hell have been on antibiotics for 4 days. Will he still be contagious to the other pups at this point or should we wait another week. Is there anything I should/can do about the place where he caught the kennel cough from?
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its like lava posted:Our puppy has come down with kennel cough, we took him to get fixed a week ago and he must have caught it there since he's not boarded otherwise. We have our training class monday at which point hell have been on antibiotics for 4 days. Will he still be contagious to the other pups at this point or should we wait another week. Call the place you are doing the training at and ask the what their rules are. Then call the place you got him fixed and let them know about the kennel cough so they can take precautions.
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I have a few questions about ear mites in cats. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. I've had my ex-stray kitty Bowie for about a month and a half now and he is in very good health and kept strictly indoors... it is just these drat ear mites won't go away. First, how long does it usually take to get rid of them? He has been treated for them twice but it doesn't seem to be lessening AT ALL. The vet didn't say I needed to bring him back again for another treatment like he did the first time, so I assumed two should have been enough but I'm thinking I was wrong. His last visit was a week ago and there is still no change in the cruddiness of Bowie's ears. Also: is there anything over-the-counter I can do to lessen poor kitty's discomfort in the meanwhile? He is always scratching at his ears and holding them back against his head so I know it is bothering him. And lastly, anyone know how to get the stains off his fur from his ears leaking? I have tried plain water and pet shampoo (I spot-cleaned the areas under his ears, there is no way in hell I would try to get this demon-clawed cat in the tub and I wouldn't want to get water in his ears anyway) but it doesn't budge. He's a white cat so it's very noticable.
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