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Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



I'm looking for a quiet toy for a one year old energetic dog. I'm in an apartment and her bones and hard balls are very loud on the floor, I'm hoping there's something that could be nicer to the neighbors below. Durability is important, she likes to destroy things like fabric toys.

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faarcyde
Dec 5, 2005
what the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for!?
I am living every dog owner's worst nightmare..took the dog to the vet because he had a skin infection and it turns out he has fleas.

The vet gave me a plan and I just want to cross reference that with other people's experiences to see what they think.

1) Dog and two cats are given Rx meds that will kill the fleas once they bite the host. She said this is the most important step (said fleas on pets should be dead within a few days)
2) Vacuum all the furniture, rugs, carpet, etc. Empty vacuum bag and seal contents in a garbage bag.
3) Wash all pet bedding in hot water cycle and hot dryer cycle.
4) Spray an over the counter flea solution in heavy traffic areas to kill adult fleas.
5) Continue vacuuming every other day, washing pet bedding once a week, etc.
6) Use a flea comb to alleviate any immediate discomfort from the fleas. She didn't mention a bath although I see that a decent bit looking around Google.

She said foggers aren't very effective and did not recommend them. I meant to ask her about hiring Orkin or something but forgot. I know most animal people are anti chemical. Does anyone have any experience with exterminators? Any other tips or tricks I can use?

Anything will be useful, I am melting down right now. I am a total clean/neat freak and this is what I envision hell to be.

Kerfuffle
Aug 16, 2007

The sky calls to us~
That list about covers it. You can pick up some diatomaceous earth to spread around and vacuum up as an alternative to spray if you want. You can hire an exterminator, but you'll still have to follow all those same steps until the infestation goes away, so you'll still be vacuuming extensively.

porkswordonboard
Aug 27, 2007
You should get that looked at

Is there a business nearby that you could wash your dog at? I work at a dog wash and we see lots of flea customers, and have a special shampoo that kills the fuckers (and is pretty safe for humans and dogs; it's not some vile caustic bullshit)

Otherwise your vet pretty much laid it out. How many fleas were found on your dog?

Also, Snowy, did anyone mention rope toys? I feel like you asked in another thread but I may be imagining things. Tuffy toys are a pretty resilient fabric toy as well.

(ps did you get a name changed, or have I always just been too distracted by your av?)

Serious Cephalopod
Jul 1, 2007

This is a Serious post for a Serious thread.

Bloop Bloop Bloop
Pillbug
Get a prescription for trifexis. The Gilead will hatch and bite your dog, then die. De fleaed an apartment in 1 day like that

Unforgiven
Sep 4, 2007
Who needs redemption?
I have a three year old English Bulldog who has started limping recently. Back left leg. She weighs 56 pounds, and has been otherwise healthy. We went to the park about 6 weeks ago, she was fine when we got home, the next morning she was limping. I called the vet, they recommended strict crate rest for two weeks and gave us some Tramadol for pain. After two weeks she was fine. No limping or signs of pain. Fast forward to yesterday. She began limping and strongly favoring her leg. I called the vet again and took her in for a check up. Initial suspicion is a turn cruciate ligament. They are doing an ortho exam and X-ray's. If it is a torn cruciate, surgery is recommended. Apparently medical management is possible but still not cure the problem.

My question is, has anyone had experience with medical management? I've just graduated pharmacy school, and am quite literally broke. I can't swing the $3500 for surgery, so NSAIDs it is, at least for now. On the other hand, I've read surgery only has around 50% success rate. Any words of advice?

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



That amount seems high. I paid about 3k at the vet specialty hospital and about 1800 for my vet when the other leg went. She's about 2 years into the one cruciate and has no major issues. The longer you wait the worst arthritis will be longer term. If your credit isn't terrible I bet you could finance it?

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Unforgiven posted:

My question is, has anyone had experience with medical management? I've just graduated pharmacy school, and am quite literally broke. I can't swing the $3500 for surgery, so NSAIDs it is, at least for now. On the other hand, I've read surgery only has around 50% success rate. Any words of advice?
Strictly anecdotally, I'd be shocked if the success rate is really that low - Our clinic for the past few years has a 100% success rate, and I don't think our surgeon or our technique (securos) is anything extraordinary.

We have patients who are medically managing, all to varying levels of success. I'll say the bigger the dog, the less successful.

For the poster above me - There are a few different techniques of varying cost. 3500 is pretty par for the course around here for TPLO.

Rick Rickshaw
Feb 21, 2007

I am not disappointed I lost the PGA Championship. Nope, I am not.
I just adopted a 6 year old (they think) beagle from a shelter on Monday, and I'm worried about his rear legs / hips because of the way he is running. He kind of bounces, which can be a sign of hip dysplasia or arthritis, I think.

But he's still pretty fast (top speed & agility) for a little guy, and has lots of energy. He plays with other dogs with lots of enthusiasm, and never whimpers in pain or anything. When he plays with other dogs, he has no trouble balancing or jumping up on his hind legs.

I called the shelter where I got him and they said it could be due to him being neutered recently (1 week ago), so just keep an eye on it.

Is there anything I should do aside from seeing how it goes? Is it possible this is just the way he runs?

a life less
Jul 12, 2009

We are healthy only to the extent that our ideas are humane.

I honestly don't think it's probable that some dogs 'just do that hop run thing' without there being an underlying issue. Could be arthritis, hips or knees causing discomfort or pain. I'd seek out a vet that is comfortable and familiar with x-raying hips and diagnosing such issues, and figure out exactly what's going on.

A lot of the time, the only real treatment is ensuring your dog is at a good weight, and that painkillers/anti-inflammatories are available if required.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!
Joint supplements might help as well. They are of questionable benefit, but a lot of (rational) people swear they help their pets, and they are cheap and harmless.

Rick Rickshaw
Feb 21, 2007

I am not disappointed I lost the PGA Championship. Nope, I am not.
Thanks guys. I'm going to get him checked out!

Blenheim
Sep 22, 2010
My 9-year-old Greater Swiss Mountain Dog has been panting a lot recently. She was suspected several months ago (and before that) of having Cushing's, but a UCC test and an ultrasound were performed, and the results came up negative. (Though the ultrasound was imperfect; I wasn't informed beforehand that she had to fast. The vet claimed he could visualize what he needed to see, though. My dog has had multiple UCC tests, and they've come up negative every time.)

I'm trying to transfer to a closer vet, and the new vet wants to do an ACTH test, which she's never had before. (He doesn't know what tests she's had previously; he just uses this as his standard Cushing's test.) What are the pros & cons of using this test over the UCC one? The previous vet liked UCC because it had a high sensitivity; I understand the ACTH doesn't have that? Is ACTH better at checking for certain types of Cushings?

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


What is this spider dong for?

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed
I have a question about a friends dog, a six year old basset hound. He is a rescue and very well loved, spoiled and generally living the dream....except his teeth.Theyre bad, looks like periodontitis, black around the top and a few are just totally rotten. I have a basset myself so I'm pretty familiar with their dental issues.

He's got two broken teeth that the vet said need to come out but it would cost 2500, which my friend explained she couldn't afford but was able to get antibiotics to help with some swelling at the time. I essentially had a conversation with her saying that her dog might be in more pain than he would lead on, and she should consider calling around for quotes but was waved off with excuses about how he's an animal and animals in the wild don't need it, he's fine, etc.

Has anyone dealt with something like this? Am I overreacting here?

Lord Zedd-Repulsa
Jul 21, 2007

Devour a good book.


Animals in the wild die from that poo poo. She can look up charities that'll help if she can find a cheaper quote, or the charity may work with vets to get a lower price. I know because last year one of my old lady cats needed teeth pulled and a local vet removed 6 for the estimate of removing 3. Charity paid $300, we only had to cover the difference of like $70. That covered sedation for the procedure, pain meds, and post-op antibiotics. Nothing was skimped on and a year later she's still trucking along and eating wonderfully.

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed
I told her the dog could get things like kidney and heart disease when the mouth is that bad, but she says the vet only said the two broken teeth needed to come out. The teeth in the back are so bad. One is just grey, it made me feel sick to look at.

Ishkibibble_Fish
Feb 14, 2008

BananaHam:
1 part treefruit
1 part mud ungulate

54 40 or gently caress posted:

I have a question about a friends dog, a six year old basset hound. He is a rescue and very well loved, spoiled and generally living the dream....except his teeth.Theyre bad, looks like periodontitis, black around the top and a few are just totally rotten. I have a basset myself so I'm pretty familiar with their dental issues.

He's got two broken teeth that the vet said need to come out but it would cost 2500, which my friend explained she couldn't afford but was able to get antibiotics to help with some swelling at the time. I essentially had a conversation with her saying that her dog might be in more pain than he would lead on, and she should consider calling around for quotes but was waved off with excuses about how he's an animal and animals in the wild don't need it, he's fine, etc.

Has anyone dealt with something like this? Am I overreacting here?

Like others said, you're not overreacting. But that quote is super high for two extractions, even if they're more complicated. I live in a major metropolitan area (US) and I had a full dental with two extractions (one more complicated), pain meds, antibiotics, pre-anesthesia blood screening- the works. It was under $600 for a ~Basset-sized dog. I would do your research, shop around, and get a second quote. And honestly, a vet that is not worried about the other decay in the mouth scares me, as it can affect the heart and other organ systems, like others have said!

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!
Seconding that that is an absolutely insane price for a cleaning and 2 extractions. Like, well over 3 times more than it would cost at our clinic, which isn't itself the cheapest place.

As for the wild animals comment, I'll never understand why people have this idea that animals in the wild are like, a model of health. Right, only animals kept in clean, healthy environments get sick.

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed
I do live in Ontario, Canada and we have some pretty notoriously high prices. High enough that some people will actually bring their pets to the states to get fixed. I called one of the vet hospitals and they quoted me at around 2500 as well, but obviously they can't say for sure without seeing the dog. I believe that's with cleaning, anaesthetic and extraction so I wonder if they could just get the extraction sans cleaning which really drives up the price.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

54 40 or gently caress posted:

I do live in Ontario, Canada and we have some pretty notoriously high prices. High enough that some people will actually bring their pets to the states to get fixed. I called one of the vet hospitals and they quoted me at around 2500 as well, but obviously they can't say for sure without seeing the dog. I believe that's with cleaning, anaesthetic and extraction so I wonder if they could just get the extraction sans cleaning which really drives up the price.
Any care is better than none of course, but for what it's worth, doing extractions without cleaning in a mouth as diseased as you're describing is less than ideal. It's basically a surgical site next to an ongoing infection.

I'll also warn that while the vet is currently aware of two extractions, there's no great way of knowing what you've got on your hands until the dog is under anesthesia. Based on what you're describing seeing, I'd be surprised if the extraction number stays at 2.

No clue how involved a process it would be, but honestly, a trip south of the border sounds like a pretty good solution here. Even keeping in mind the us dollar is a bit stronger, the price difference is just shocking. I think it's great you care so much about your friend's dog, btw, and I don't mean to sound negative. Whatever you can get your friend to do for the dog is better than the current plan.

pizzadog
Oct 9, 2009

Ishkibibble_Fish posted:

Like others said, you're not overreacting. But that quote is super high for two extractions, even if they're more complicated. I live in a major metropolitan area (US) and I had a full dental with two extractions (one more complicated), pain meds, antibiotics, pre-anesthesia blood screening- the works. It was under $600 for a ~Basset-sized dog. I would do your research, shop around, and get a second quote. And honestly, a vet that is not worried about the other decay in the mouth scares me, as it can affect the heart and other organ systems, like others have said!

AGreeing with this. I think it's serious, but she should shop around even look for a veterinary dental school for lower cost.

Sekhmet
Nov 16, 2001


There is no such thing as a veterinary dental school - there are veterinary schools that have dentistry residencies and that's the closest you'd get. I'm not sure they'd be that much cheaper than any other specialist though they might be. Your best bet might be to find a GP that has a special interest in dentistry and does things right. I know that's an area that a lot of GPs really enjoy.

ncumbered_by_idgits
Sep 20, 2008

Google hasn't been very helpful so I'm here with a question. My dog, a miniature yorkie-poo will not stop chewing on any tag we put on her collar. I've managed to find one that she can't destroy but that's not really the problem, I don't mind replacing it every six months. Problem is as soon as I put a tag on her, she turns into a drooling idiot and that's all she wants to do. Everywhere she parks herself ends up being a massive puddle of dog drool. Is there any tag out there that maybe has a bad taste to discourage her from chewing it?

Hdip
Aug 21, 2002
What about a tag attached to and lays flat on the collar?

http://www.boomerangtags.com/page.php?c=collartags

ncumbered_by_idgits
Sep 20, 2008

Hdip posted:

What about a tag attached to and lays flat on the collar?

http://www.boomerangtags.com/page.php?c=collartags

Duh, perfect. Thanks.

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004


Lol.i halbve already saod i inferno circstances wanttpgback
Does anyone have a good set of tutorials on grooming, Youtube videos, maybe? Most of the guides I've read are somewhat vague and unhelpful.

The dog in question is a fluffy little thing, and he is no stranger to grooming. I've watched him get cut and, after a while, he generally resigns himself to the process and just stands there on the grooming table. When I try to do it, he gets a bit squirmy around the head, legs, paws, and underbelly, even if I set aside my clippers and use the scissors.

I'm not anxious, I take my time, pet him, etc, but he won't stop flinching or hiding his legs and paws. I haven't even tried to the areas anywhere near his mouth or eyes because I really don't want to risk injuring the restless pup.

Some guides suggested getting the dog to associate grooming time with special treats. Is the positive reinforcement regimen as simple as showing him the tools, touching them, giving him a treat, and putting them away?

Damn Bananas
Jul 1, 2007

You humans bore me
Does anyone else's cat prefer to pee in the corner or against the back wall of the litter box so that the clumps practically spot-weld themselves to the plastic? Is there some way to prevent that from happening with other shapes of boxes, types of litters, etc? I currently use Arm & Hammer in the orange box. She has kidney disease so she pees a lot and I have snapped one scoop handle trying to get them off, and have come close to snapping another.

Tl;dr: Help, concrete pee. :psyduck:

Tiny Deer
Jan 16, 2012

What would be a good treat/toy for a 15 pound corgi chihuahua mix, generally? I know little about dogs, especially small ones, but I want to bribe my in-laws' dog with a Christmas present.

Yeah I'm buying a dog a gift, fight me.

Minister of Chance
Apr 6, 2011

drat Bananas posted:

Does anyone else's cat prefer to pee in the corner or against the back wall of the litter box so that the clumps practically spot-weld themselves to the plastic? Is there some way to prevent that from happening with other shapes of boxes, types of litters, etc? I currently use Arm & Hammer in the orange box. She has kidney disease so she pees a lot and I have snapped one scoop handle trying to get them off, and have come close to snapping another.

Tl;dr: Help, concrete pee. :psyduck:

There are those disposable plastic bags for litter boxes. In my opinion the litter doesn't stick to them as much as to the bin itself, but it may depend on the brand and you need a litter box with a detachable hood, or rim.

Damn Bananas
Jul 1, 2007

You humans bore me

Minister of Chance posted:

There are those disposable plastic bags for litter boxes. In my opinion the litter doesn't stick to them as much as to the bin itself, but it may depend on the brand and you need a litter box with a detachable hood, or rim.

I wondered about those, but wasn't sure if clumps would get stuck to them and I'd accidentally rip a hole trying to maneuver them off of the liner. It's worth a shot, though!

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013

A bit of forestory. We moved to our new house a while ago, and ever since then we kinda had this cat the last owners left. She is not a housecat, and the Owners even came once to get it back.

They only live 2 km, and the cat came back to us. He is out all night, comes around 10am and the sleep the entire day. He get some dry food and water with a little bit of milk in it.

Recently he came home with a pretty swollen cheek, and was hissing when he tried to eat. So yesterday I brought him to the Vet under a lot of meowing (Not really used to being dragged and stuff.)

Vet cut his cheek open, cleaned it out from all pus and then gave him a 14 days antibiotic depot in his hip.

Since he was still bleeding we locked him in the bathroom for 4 hours, after which he calmed down, got his petting and purred before going his merry way again.

The thing is, he hasn't really eaten any food or drank any water by us. We are not sure if other people give him food (Most likely yes). It has been about 24 hours. Should I just pack him and drag him to the Vet again right now?

Tofu Terry
Oct 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
^^ that sounds like a vet situation to me. Cats not drinking or eating can cause urinary issues which can be life threatening.

A question just for fun:

Any ideas what kind of dog my parents' dog is? She just showed up one day and they kept her as a farm dog. Excellent ratter and chases deer out of the garden. Also very good at digging holes. Very good at that, lol.

We're in rural southern US so I assume some sort of catahoula mix, aside from that I have no idea.





Tiny Deer
Jan 16, 2012

Tofu Terry posted:

^^ that sounds like a vet situation to me. Cats not drinking or eating can cause urinary issues which can be life threatening.

A question just for fun:

Any ideas what kind of dog my parents' dog is? She just showed up one day and they kept her as a farm dog. Excellent ratter and chases deer out of the garden. Also very good at digging holes. Very good at that, lol.

We're in rural southern US so I assume some sort of catahoula mix, aside from that I have no idea.







I have no idea of the breed but I can detect a pedigree of Good Dog. And actually on second look, some type of terrier? She's kind of big but the ratting instinct is telling and she has that narrow snout.

Tofu Terry
Oct 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Ooh, that's something I hadn't considered but I can definitely see it. I'd say she's about the size of a lanky pibble.


Also I'm taking care of my aunt's basset hound this week and it's the first time I've encountered a dog who truly is unmotivated without food. That's just a side note lol.

pizzadog
Oct 9, 2009

NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

Does anyone have a good set of tutorials on grooming, Youtube videos, maybe? Most of the guides I've read are somewhat vague and unhelpful.

The dog in question is a fluffy little thing, and he is no stranger to grooming. I've watched him get cut and, after a while, he generally resigns himself to the process and just stands there on the grooming table. When I try to do it, he gets a bit squirmy around the head, legs, paws, and underbelly, even if I set aside my clippers and use the scissors.

I'm not anxious, I take my time, pet him, etc, but he won't stop flinching or hiding his legs and paws. I haven't even tried to the areas anywhere near his mouth or eyes because I really don't want to risk injuring the restless pup.

Some guides suggested getting the dog to associate grooming time with special treats. Is the positive reinforcement regimen as simple as showing him the tools, touching them, giving him a treat, and putting them away?

Yeah I'd follow this guide but with the clippers instead of nail trimming tools (cached site cuz original site isn't loading) http://tinyurl.com/zdob6cj
It will take patience, time, and not 'forcing' the groom til they're over threshold - pulling away, flinching, scared, etc.

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
I have an 8 month old brittany spaniel that has a hurt hind leg, like a pulled muscle or something like that. I'm taking him to the vet today so that's covered but is there anything I should be asking for? I think I might ask for sedatives because he is super active. Is this a bad idea? He had this issue 2 months ago and the vet just recommended rest. Also, any recommendations on how to burn the energy without agrivating the injury?

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Oscar Wild posted:

I have an 8 month old brittany spaniel that has a hurt hind leg, like a pulled muscle or something like that. I'm taking him to the vet today so that's covered but is there anything I should be asking for? I think I might ask for sedatives because he is super active. Is this a bad idea? He had this issue 2 months ago and the vet just recommended rest. Also, any recommendations on how to burn the energy without agrivating the injury?

I don't know but please follow up :ohdear:

My dog is going through something similar, showing signs of a strain. He can move is leg outwards and around but movement towards his body leads to a yelp. The vet he is most comfortable with(i.e. the one he will actually let touch him) is on vacation now and I'm not sure what to do. I talked the the other Vet and he said just get as much rest for the next few days and if nothing improves to bring him in but I'm so worried about my him since he's never had any sort of serious injury before.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE
Strange question. We have several farm cats who are polydactyl and they have all different amounts of toes. The thing is though one of them has six toes on a front paw and seven on another. He didn't lose one or anything, I can tell by feeling his feet. Have any of you ever hear of or seen that? It's a really minor thing and has 100% healthy otherwise but with a little basic googling I couldn't find anything about other cats like that.

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CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

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Yeah, polydactyly can end up with having one number of fingats/toes on one limb and another on another. It happens. Your cat is a perfectly normal mutant cat.

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