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DILLIGAF
Nov 16, 2003

I don't know, I find it hard to take hipster/non-hipster advice from someone with a Brony avatar!

LingcodKilla posted:

I dont understand the need to use special sights or really any sights at all on a home defense shotgun. Just go to the range a few times and it should feel pretty instinctive after a bit. For christ sakes you only need to shoot from longest hallway in your house to the next room at the most.

Because we can.

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DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



DILLIGAF posted:

Because we can.

When you think about it, that's the reasoning for drat near everything here in TFR.

Not that I'm saying that's a bad thing.

DILLIGAF
Nov 16, 2003

I don't know, I find it hard to take hipster/non-hipster advice from someone with a Brony avatar!

Got my B-Square rail mount and put my ProPoint on the 500



DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



What is the general concensus about Tac-Star magazine extentions? I finally found one for my Benelli Nova, but don't know if the $35 average price I'm seeing is worth it.

Chill_Bebop
Jun 20, 2007

Waffle SS

I bought one for my 870 Police, I guess its all right, even if sometimes the follower gets stuck. I don't think the spring they come with is very strong.

El Jorge
Feb 26, 2006

A spiritus dominatus,
Domine, libra nos,
From the lighting and the tempest,
Our Emperor, deliver us.


A morte perpetua,
Domine, libra nos.


sky shark posted:

Your night vision is already gone because you AREN'T SHOOTING AT UNIDENTIFIED TARGETS, RIGHT? Which means you are using your SHOTGUN MOUNTED LIGHT, RIGHT?

Nah, I'll just shoot anything that moves in the night

On a side note, were you published in the LEO the other day by chance?

LandRaider
Oct 11, 2005
I like motors, and boobs.

DILLIGAF posted:

Got my B-Square rail mount and put my ProPoint on the 500]


How you like your lovely 500 safety now? Sucks pretty hard with that pistol grip. (one reason 500's suck)

Kidding aside. 500's are great guns... just not my choice.

DILLIGAF
Nov 16, 2003

I don't know, I find it hard to take hipster/non-hipster advice from someone with a Brony avatar!

LandRaider posted:

How you like your lovely 500 safety now? Sucks pretty hard with that pistol grip. (one reason 500's suck)

Kidding aside. 500's are great guns... just not my choice.

I don't like it, never liked it and have never used it.

I don't really understand the reason for a safety on a home/self defense shotgun (or the reason for whining about where the safety is located).

I am no longer in the military, am not a cop and don't hunt with a shotgun, so if I am carrying it around loaded and chambered, there is a good reason for it and the safety would not be engaged.

If I am not carrying it around and it is stored in a safe loaded and chambered, then the chance of a negligent discharge is, for all practical purposes, zero so the safety is not needed.

If it is not loaded and chambered, the safety is superfluous anyway.

In closing, who gives a gently caress?

Herr Ottomator
Dec 6, 2004
H AND K H AND K H AND K

DJExile posted:

What is the general concensus about Tac-Star magazine extentions? I finally found one for my Benelli Nova, but don't know if the $35 average price I'm seeing is worth it.

I've had one one my 870 for a couple years now and haven't run into a single problem.

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



Chill_Bebop posted:

I bought one for my 870 Police, I guess its all right, even if sometimes the follower gets stuck. I don't think the spring they come with is very strong.
Wow, it gets stuck on its own? I've only had that happen when using a mount that slips between the tube & barrel ring (like that Insight light rail).

Otherwise, the factory and Scattergun Tech tubes I've got have worked perfectly.

Medsmokah
Jul 13, 2006

by Fistgrrl


DILLIGAF posted:

Well..... there IS one other option.

If you have or can mount a rail on your shotgun, you can get low profile rail-mounted ghost-right sights from XS Sights http://www.xssights.com/store/rifle.html (Backup Ghost Right Sights)

The low weaver looks like a good option and Cabela's has them for $70. Add in a hgh vis replacement post for the front and you are set.

I was going to go this route, and then decided to swap my red dot over to the shotgun since the 4 or 5 MOA dot was just too big for long range accuracy on a target pistol

I think I am going to go with the mesa side saddle base and those low weaver ghost rings. Now I need to find a matching front sight. Anyone have any suggestions?

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

El Jorge posted:


On a side note, were you published in the LEO the other day by chance?

Oh god, what now. I show up in there every so often...

Hussar
Oct 25, 2007


Does anyone have experience with single shot shotguns? I already have pump action HD gun, but have an itch for a single shot.

Right now I'm looking at H&R or Remington Spartan (Russian) single shots.

Any experience? How is the quality? Which one is going to last forever?

All responses are greatly appreciated.

El Jorge
Feb 26, 2006

A spiritus dominatus,
Domine, libra nos,
From the lighting and the tempest,
Our Emperor, deliver us.


A morte perpetua,
Domine, libra nos.


sky shark posted:

Oh god, what now. I show up in there every so often...

It was a letter about Jim Welp's idiocy regarding CCW laws and Kentucky. The name was familiar.

Chill_Bebop
Jun 20, 2007

Waffle SS

Uncle Caveman posted:

Wow, it gets stuck on its own? I've only had that happen when using a mount that slips between the tube & barrel ring (like that Insight light rail).

Otherwise, the factory and Scattergun Tech tubes I've got have worked perfectly.

Well the follower will stay right behind a shell, but it wont push it out, so you end up pumping away and watching the rear of the shell stay in the tube. Its like the spring is getting stuck somewhere farther back. Sometimes this happens, sometimes nothing.


Hussar posted:

Right now I'm looking at H&R or Remington Spartan (Russian) single shots.

Spartans are heavy and built like a brick. Either one will last you a couple hundred years.

Chill_Bebop fucked around with this message at Feb 25, 2008 around 05:22

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

El Jorge posted:

It was a letter about Jim Welp's idiocy regarding CCW laws and Kentucky. The name was familiar.

drat, that JUST showed up? Wait... I sent him an email around the Virginia Tech shooting... what was the name under it?

serakyu
Jan 11, 2007

and lo, motherfuckers


Cross-post from the photo thread, my M590SP:



The goddamn heat shield actually blew off while I was shooting a bunch of high-powered slugs. My friend welded it back together and I put it back on only to have to blow off the next time I went shooting. Anybody else ever have that happen? If so, what'd you replace it with? Also, how do you guys feel about the saddle-style sight mounts? Are they pretty fragile?

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


What price would I be looking at for a new 870 Police Magnum? I don't see many available on Gunbroker or other places online, but they're so much classier than an Express HD.

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



I've seen them on Bud's for ~$430 (looks like they're out of stock now)... or at a store for $570.

Herr Ottomator
Dec 6, 2004
H AND K H AND K H AND K

serakyu posted:

Cross-post from the photo thread, my M590SP:



The goddamn heat shield actually blew off while I was shooting a bunch of high-powered slugs. My friend welded it back together and I put it back on only to have to blow off the next time I went shooting. Anybody else ever have that happen? If so, what'd you replace it with? Also, how do you guys feel about the saddle-style sight mounts? Are they pretty fragile?

BUT THE 590 IS A RUGGED AND RELIABLE AND AND AND AND

in all honesty the gun did you a favor, as heat shields are dumb as poo poo

serakyu
Jan 11, 2007

and lo, motherfuckers


But it looked so cool.

El Jorge
Feb 26, 2006

A spiritus dominatus,
Domine, libra nos,
From the lighting and the tempest,
Our Emperor, deliver us.


A morte perpetua,
Domine, libra nos.


sky shark posted:

drat, that JUST showed up? Wait... I sent him an email around the Virginia Tech shooting... what was the name under it?

Kevin Adams.

DILLIGAF
Nov 16, 2003

I don't know, I find it hard to take hipster/non-hipster advice from someone with a Brony avatar!

Medsmokah posted:

I think I am going to go with the mesa side saddle base and those low weaver ghost rings. Now I need to find a matching front sight. Anyone have any suggestions?

I actually have the perfect thing. It is a flash-hider looking thing that goes on the muzzle and has an integral rail. Then add an AR style front sight (or any other rail-mounted front sight).

Not the best materials, but it would work. the best solution would be to have the barrel cut down 2 inches, then a heav7 flash hider permanently installed on the end, thick enough to be drilled and tapped for a short rail.

If you want to try before you alter the shotgun permanently, send me a PM. I got this setup for my own before realizing that the factory extended magazine makes it so the front attachment won't fit.

Like this but you can have it cheaper. http://cgi.ebay.com/SHOTGUN-BARREL-...1QQcmdZViewItem

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

El Jorge posted:

Kevin Adams.

Not it. Sorry. Jim Welp is a tool though!

STAT1C_X
May 9, 2004

by angerbot


DILLIGAF posted:

Got my B-Square rail mount and put my ProPoint on the 500


How do you like it? The mount that is.

Wonder if I'll be able to mount that with my side saddle on. Don't have my shotgun near me at the moment, but I'm thinking no

DILLIGAF
Nov 16, 2003

I don't know, I find it hard to take hipster/non-hipster advice from someone with a Brony avatar!

STAT1C_X posted:

How do you like it? The mount that is.

Wonder if I'll be able to mount that with my side saddle on. Don't have my shotgun near me at the moment, but I'm thinking no

I like it. It is very secure feeling, attaches easily, but no, I don't think you can use the side saddle with it. It attaches in the same place, the trigger plate pin.

I wonder if B-Square makes a saddle compatible side saddle? Time to start searching!

DevNull
Apr 4, 2007

And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky
A human being that was given to fly



I figured there were enough box threads for shotguns recently, so I won't do my own full thread. Here is a picture so far. I plan on do more to it.



It has a TacStar side saddle, Vang Comp magazine extention, Surefire forend light, and Wilderness sling. The Vang Comp magazine extension has the sling point on the side to work really well with the sling. It rests at a much better position. I plan on getting ghost ring sights and Vang Comp barrel porting.

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


In general, is a police trade-in shotgun a lot like a trade-in pistol: a worn finish with barely-used internals?

Neophyte
Apr 23, 2006

perennially

Pitch posted:

In general, is a police trade-in shotgun a lot like a trade-in pistol: a worn finish with barely-used internals?

Pretty much. For example, if it's been in one of those old-style cruiser mounts you'll see a lot of finish wear around the contact points of the mount (and wherever else it was routinely handled) but everywhere else should be nearly mint. Internals might be dirty. External problems rarely amount to more than a little cosmetic surface rust, which can easily be removed with some oil and fine steel wool.

It may not look pretty, but who cares, it's a shotgun, they aren't supposed to look pretty.

It's possible that some cop did something stupid with one, like dropped it into the ocean out or soaked it in the blood of an innocent black man, and then never cleaned it. Cops never clean shotguns ever. But that's okay since they use them even less than they do with their sidearms. Still, it's always a good idea to give the internals a once-over just to eliminate the rare case where they're hosed up.

Used police Wingmasters, which if you're looking at used police guns are the most likely choice, are probably the best deal going in HD shotguns. Cheap, solid, and (with rare exceptions) drat near perfect inside. What more could you want?

El Jorge
Feb 26, 2006

A spiritus dominatus,
Domine, libra nos,
From the lighting and the tempest,
Our Emperor, deliver us.


A morte perpetua,
Domine, libra nos.


sky shark posted:

Not it. Sorry. Jim Welp is a tool though!

Boy howdy, he sure is.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!


DevNull posted:

I figured there were enough box threads for shotguns recently, so I won't do my own full thread. Here is a picture so far. I plan on do more to it.



It has a TacStar side saddle, Vang Comp magazine extention, Surefire forend light, and Wilderness sling. The Vang Comp magazine extension has the sling point on the side to work really well with the sling. It rests at a much better position. I plan on getting ghost ring sights and Vang Comp barrel porting.
why didn't you get the three shot extension?

DevNull
Apr 4, 2007

And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky
A human being that was given to fly



TenementFunster posted:

why didn't you get the three shot extension?

I was a dumb rear end and screwed up. I figure the best way to fix the situation at this point is get an 870 with an 18 inch barrel, put the two shot extension on it, and get a 3 shot for the 20 inch barrel. Then I will put a collapsible stock on the 18, and a small forend. This way I will have the heavy 870 and the small, light 870. Not the most cost efficient was to resolve my mistake, but much more fun.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!


anybody know where I can buy Sage International shotgun accessories? I really want their Speedfeed IVs sling plate for my 870

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


I've got an 870 on the way and I'm thinking of having it refinished. Where can I find a guide to totally disassembling it? I know how to field-strip one but ideally I'd like to have it broken down to bare pieces of metal-- the receiver, barrel, magazine tube, and trigger guard.

charliebravo77
Jun 11, 2003



Pitch posted:

I've got an 870 on the way and I'm thinking of having it refinished. Where can I find a guide to totally disassembling it? I know how to field-strip one but ideally I'd like to have it broken down to bare pieces of metal-- the receiver, barrel, magazine tube, and trigger guard.

Follow the instructions here: http://www.tfrwiki.com/wiki/index.php/870
Then, when it's broken down as far as the guide goes, unscrew the stock from the receiver and pop out the magazine spring retainer from the tube(careful as the spring and follower fly out) and that should be it really.

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



charliebravo77 posted:

pop out the magazine spring retainer from the tube
Note that 870s with an extended tube won't have the retainer. It's the comedy-can-o-snakes juggle for you!

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


So is the magazine tube not removable or is it just so uncommon that instructions aren't available?

charliebravo77
Jun 11, 2003



Pitch posted:

So is the magazine tube not removable or is it just so uncommon that instructions aren't available?

I've never tried, but I'd imagine it's just screwed on - possibly then soldered in place. I'll take a look at mine in about an hour when I get home and let you know what I find.

charliebravo77
Jun 11, 2003



There doesn't seem to be a way to remove the tube, it appears to be welded onto the receiver. In fact, there's a 870 receiver on gunbroker that shows the tube attached, so it doesn't look like it's meant to come off.

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Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


charliebravo77 posted:

There doesn't seem to be a way to remove the tube, it appears to be welded onto the receiver. In fact, there's a 870 receiver on gunbroker that shows the tube attached, so it doesn't look like it's meant to come off.
Welded on sounds good enough. I just need it broken down enough that I can be sure no grease is hiding in a thread somewhere ready to boil out during the new finish application.

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