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Pretty Little Rainbow
Dec 27, 2005

by T. Finn


Uncle Caveman posted:

Is that yours in the first pic? Ithaca?

Painting wood won't last very long without some serious wood prep and finishing.

Nah its not, I got a Ranger 120 but its pretty much got the exact some front grip.

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Ygolonac
Nov 26, 2007

FURRED STREET,
BITCHES!




Naw, I'm the one with the Chinese clone of the Ithaca 37, which has loving reddish-brown "woodlike colour" paint.

If I can get a decent close-up, I'll post - might shave off some more off the stock, just to behold the glory of the wood below.

Blaster of Justice
Jan 6, 2007

by angerbot


Gtab posted:

This is a fantastic answer. You aren't going to know that it's 12ga over 20ga when you use it. I suggest a 12ga.

That's a very common misunderstanding. Most commercial ammunition has almost the exact same load in 12 and 20 gauge with just a few pellets less in 20.

The 20 gauge shotgun will however be a lot lighter than its 12 gauge cousin. That's quite practical when hunting for several hours, but the tradeoff is that the the shotguns lesser weight will add the felt recoil.

A 20 gauge generally feels a bit snappier than a 20 gauge. Not that either is a problem at all.

Anyway, a 20 gauge #00 Buck to the chest will kill you just as dead as a 12 gauge #00 Buck will.

Blaster of Justice fucked around with this message at Dec 26, 2008 around 22:51

Sgt. Shaved Balls
Sep 6, 2006

The Year Is 2053. Basketball Is Dead.


Ygolonac posted:

Naw, I'm the one with the Chinese clone of the Ithaca 37, which has loving reddish-brown "woodlike colour" paint.

If I can get a decent close-up, I'll post - might shave off some more off the stock, just to behold the glory of the wood below.

does real ithaca 37 furniture fit it?

Blaster of Justice
Jan 6, 2007

by angerbot


Sgt. Shaved Balls posted:

does real ithaca 37 furniture fit it?

For the clones I've seen it does, but it'll probably be more expensive than the gun was in the first place.

Flanker
Sep 10, 2002

OPERATORS GONNA OPERATE
After a good night's sleep


Ygolonac posted:

Naw, I'm the one with the Chinese clone of the Ithaca 37, which has loving reddish-brown "woodlike colour" paint.

If I can get a decent close-up, I'll post - might shave off some more off the stock, just to behold the glory of the wood below.

I had one of these. I couldn't even give it away.

EndofGoogle
Nov 22, 2004
page 20 of 100

2 questions

A) I have a Fabarms FP6 I'm trying to shed (too light and tacticool for my tastes, though I love the foregrip). What would these go for in a cruiser-worn state, since "Fabarms" only brings up O/U's and other unrelated guns on auction sites.


B) I have a Benelli M1 that I love, but I want to get a longer ribbed barrel for hunting waterfowl. Where could I get one that doesn't cost more than the gun itself?

Miso Beno
Apr 29, 2004

Try to Catch Me Ridin' Dirty


EndofGoogle posted:

2 questions

A) I have a Fabarms FP6 I'm trying to shed (too light and tacticool for my tastes, though I love the foregrip). What would these go for in a cruiser-worn state, since "Fabarms" only brings up O/U's and other unrelated guns on auction sites.


B) I have a Benelli M1 that I love, but I want to get a longer ribbed barrel for hunting waterfowl. Where could I get one that doesn't cost more than the gun itself?



Your fab arms shotgun seems to go for $200-300 in decent shape according to a quick google search.

Also, you ruin guns.

Scottish_Loser
Aug 3, 2007
3/4 Scottish 1/4 Loser(..errr Swedish)

Hey, so my girlfriend's dad is look for a Mossberg 500 Cruiser 20ga. I can find some 12ga no problem but that 20ga is an illusive one. Could you guys help me find one for him that isn't >$250 ?

Note: The Cruiser has the pistol grip.

Argila
Oct 22, 2008


Scottish_Loser posted:

Hey, so my girlfriend's dad is look for a Mossberg 500 Cruiser 20ga. I can find some 12ga no problem but that 20ga is an illusive one. Could you guys help me find one for him that isn't >$250 ?

Note: The Cruiser has the pistol grip.

edit: just saw the "cruiser"

Argila fucked around with this message at Dec 28, 2008 around 07:22

Biaxident
Sep 4, 2003

GLOCK: Explosive Firepower!


Scottish_Loser posted:

Hey, so my girlfriend's dad is look for a Mossberg 500 Cruiser 20ga. I can find some 12ga no problem but that 20ga is an illusive one. Could you guys help me find one for him that isn't >$250 ?

Note: The Cruiser has the pistol grip.

Any particular reason he's stuck on the 20ga? You're having a hard time finding a 20ga Cruiser because a PGO 20ga is retarded.

Ygolonac
Nov 26, 2007

FURRED STREET,
BITCHES!




Flanker posted:

I had one of these. I couldn't even give it away.

Throw it over the border for me. Then I can dual-wield.

I expect Ithaca furniture will fir - I know the barrel won't, as the inscutable Orientals have changed the mounting somewhat. (Not that I've seen a lot of 18" riot barrels with extended mag tubes, anyway.) They also changed over to a dual-action bar setup, so I guess that's OK.

Kodo Zoku
Mar 6, 2008


Scottish_Loser posted:

Hey, so my girlfriend's dad is look for a Mossberg 500 Cruiser 20ga. I can find some 12ga no problem but that 20ga is an illusive one. Could you guys help me find one for him that isn't >$250 ?

Note: The Cruiser has the pistol grip.

Mossberg makes a 20ga pistol grip cruiser. It's a six shot, and the item number is 50450. A Mossberg dealership should be able to order one for you, but you're at their mercy for the price, and Mossbergs cost > $250. They also make a .410 (#45455), so if you're looking for a silly pistol grip, there's plenty of options. If buying one new isn't an option, there's a chance you could find one at a gun show for ~$200 (in lovely condition, perhaps) and then put a pistol grip on it. The grip will probably cost >$40 new, maybe you could find one in a bargain bucket or something for cheaper though.

Scottish_Loser
Aug 3, 2007
3/4 Scottish 1/4 Loser(..errr Swedish)

He wants a 20 ga cause this is for HD and he thinks a 12ga is overkill in a house.

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



Tell him a cruiser is a horrible HD choice and 12ga low-recoil is fine.


Then slap his daughter on the rear end

Khashie
May 21, 2007


Does anyone have any information about the Mauser-Bauer 72-E Over/Under Double Barrel Shotgun?


I went hunting in Iran and I was using some Mauser o/u shotgun, and this is the only thing that came up when I searched Mauser Shotgun. And now I'm thinking of buying one as my first gun.

Groda
Mar 17, 2005



What makes a good trap load?

What makes a legal trap load?

Easychair Bootson
May 7, 2004

Where's the last guy?
Ultimo hombre.
Last man standing.
Must've been one.


Franchi Alcione 12ga O/U shotgun

This is my local dealer's listing - a consignment gun, I believe. What's something like this worth, and are there better choices in the price range?

Kommienzuspadt
Apr 28, 2004

This bear is tops blooby


hehe




wingmasters are awesome

now I just need to put poo poo on it, hell yeah. any advice?

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Hell yeah shotgun thread is back

Wingmasters rule. What to do with accessories depends on what you want out of it. If you want to tactical/HD the thing, it's pretty hard to beat a Surefire forend and a speedfeed stock. Hogue forends are pretty comfortable too.

Crosspostin'



Got a Stoeger Uplander, 24" 12ga SxS. Comes with an IC and Modified choke, and it led me to a couple questions.

1: Am I risking any damage to the chokes by firing buckshot through either barrel with the chokes? I don't see myself firing slugs through these because 12ga slugs through a break-action shotgun sound more like an adventure in pain.

2: I'm mostly going to use this gun for fun, and maybe some hand-thrown clays. Are there any more chokes I should use?

Kommienzuspadt
Apr 28, 2004

This bear is tops blooby


DJExile posted:

Hell yeah shotgun thread is back

Wingmasters rule. What to do with accessories depends on what you want out of it. If you want to tactical/HD the thing, it's pretty hard to beat a Surefire forend and a speedfeed stock. Hogue forends are pretty comfortable too.


imma keep the wood furniture i think. i was thinking a tacstar light and a bigger magtube to start

shotgunsRmylife
Apr 12, 2009
JakeB's biggest fan.


Groda posted:

What makes a good trap load?

What makes a legal trap load?

A good trap load would have to be a 1oz load, 7 1/2's, that runs around 1250 fps, oh and do not forget 2 3/4 dram. This is a popular load that American Trap shooters use. But that load is good for singles only in American Trap. If you shoot doubles then you will want to use a 1 1/8 oz, 7 1/2, 2 3/4 dram, around 1300 fps for your 2nd shot. Hope this helps.

Gtab
Dec 9, 2003

cop killer
cop killer
cop killer


shotgunsRmylife posted:

A good trap load would have to be a 1oz load, 7 1/2's, that runs around 1250 fps, oh and do not forget 2 3/4 dram. This is a popular load that American Trap shooters use. But that load is good for singles only in American Trap. If you shoot doubles then you will want to use a 1 1/8 oz, 7 1/2, 2 3/4 dram, around 1300 fps for your 2nd shot. Hope this helps.

your name: no poo poo. good work.

Pyruvate
Apr 4, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post


How is the Stoeger Condor as a skeet/trap gun?

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



Observation #1: The Ithaca 37's shell stop is really tiny and really fragile.

Observation #2: Clearing a doublefeed on a shotgun that shits & eats from the same hole is

Groda
Mar 17, 2005



shotgunsRmylife posted:

A good trap load would have to be a 1oz load, 7 1/2's, that runs around 1250 fps, oh and do not forget 2 3/4 dram. This is a popular load that American Trap shooters use. But that load is good for singles only in American Trap. If you shoot doubles then you will want to use a 1 1/8 oz, 7 1/2, 2 3/4 dram, around 1300 fps for your 2nd shot. Hope this helps.

wow thanks! Never expected an answer at this point.

shotgunsRmylife
Apr 12, 2009
JakeB's biggest fan.


Groda posted:

wow thanks! Never expected an answer at this point.

Not a problem, I am a competitive shotgunner.

shotgunsRmylife
Apr 12, 2009
JakeB's biggest fan.


Pyruvate posted:

How is the Stoeger Condor as a skeet/trap gun?

It's only good if you just want to play around in the two sports, but if you want to compete you will want to look at something with better quality. A cheap but yet still good shotgun for Trap or Skeet would be something like a Verona semi-auto or say a Remington 11-87 or 1100, with the threaded barrel so that you could change your chokes. But if you really dont have a price limit, then a Beretta Al 391 Urika or the Beretta Xtrema 2 , both semi autos, are great buys and reliable from both Trap and Skeet.

shotgunsRmylife fucked around with this message at Apr 13, 2009 around 02:17

Blaster of Justice
Jan 6, 2007

by angerbot


Uncle Caveman posted:

Tell him a cruiser is a horrible HD choice and 12ga low-recoil is fine.


Then slap his daughter on the rear end

The loads of a 12Ga and a 20Ga shell are exactly identical. The only real difference is a few less pellets in a 20Ga #00 buck. The 20Ga will usually have a bit more snappy recoil due to less barrel weight. A 20Ga will kill the bad guy just as dead as a 12Ga will.

MidasAg
Oct 28, 2007
The Man of Silver

I am looking for an 18" rifled deer barrel for either a Winchester 1200 or 1300. I am having no luck. I have checked Midwest, Buds Gun Shop, and Winchester just wants double other places. I have been able to find smooth bore deer barrels at some stores, but not rifled. Will I just be stuck using a smooth bore and rifled choke or does someone have a hidden place to get one.


Also, on the same shotgun, if the slide is closed, and I tilt the gun vertical, the forend will slide down about 1/2", along with everything internal. The bolt will still stay locked, but I still would like to know if I should get this checked, or if anyone has any advice.

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Flyboy925 posted:

I am looking for an 18" rifled deer barrel for either a Winchester 1200 or 1300. I am having no luck. I have checked Midwest, Buds Gun Shop, and Winchester just wants double other places. I have been able to find smooth bore deer barrels at some stores, but not rifled. Will I just be stuck using a smooth bore and rifled choke or does someone have a hidden place to get one.


Also, on the same shotgun, if the slide is closed, and I tilt the gun vertical, the forend will slide down about 1/2", along with everything internal. The bolt will still stay locked, but I still would like to know if I should get this checked, or if anyone has any advice.

Is there any reason you don't want to shoot rifled slugs? Seems like that would take care of things.

As to your 2nd point, that seems a bit odd. How old is it?

Count Sacula
Jul 24, 2004

All growns up


Blaster of Justice posted:

The loads of a 12Ga and a 20Ga shell are exactly identical. The only real difference is a few less pellets in a 20Ga #00 buck. The 20Ga will usually have a bit more snappy recoil due to less barrel weight. A 20Ga will kill the bad guy just as dead as a 12Ga will.

*grabs popcorn*

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.

I've been bursting at the seams to share the news and the shotgunnery thread seems appropriate. I just broke my first straight in trap yesterday. Shot three games, broke 23-25-23. The new Cynergy Sporting I box-thread'd a month or so ago was with me on the line. I bought it as a skeet gun, but with how high it shoots it's perfect for trap. I just screw in an I/M choke and start blasting.
I also shot at a different club yesterday and I was able to shoot lead instead of steel. WOW, what a difference there is in what should have been an "equivalent" load. The lead loads absolutely ground up the birds with every hit. It was really pretty obvious how much more energy lead has downrange over something like steel. I'd shot a few 24s with steel at my regular club, so it's definitely POSSIBLE to go straight with steel, but I felt like I couldn't miss with lead. It's too bad I can't go to this other club more regularly- my average score would be way higher.

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Pyruvate
Apr 4, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post


shotgunsRmylife posted:

It's only good if you just want to play around in the two sports, but if you want to compete you will want to look at something with better quality. A cheap but yet still good shotgun for Trap or Skeet would be something like a Verona semi-auto or say a Remington 11-87 or 1100, with the threaded barrel so that you could change your chokes. But if you really dont have a price limit, then a Beretta Al 391 Urika or the Beretta Xtrema 2 , both semi autos, are great buys and reliable from both Trap and Skeet.

Cool, thanks for the info.

Capn Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Can it be fired with a massive erection?



CLICK CLACK



STAB STAB



BLAM



Every shotgun should have a bayonet lug.

MidasAg
Oct 28, 2007
The Man of Silver

DJExile posted:

Is there any reason you don't want to shoot rifled slugs? Seems like that would take care of things.

As to your 2nd point, that seems a bit odd. How old is it?

I can and have shot hte rifled slugs out of this barrel, I just wanted the option of shooting saboted slugs. The guys I went hunting with last year used them, and they worked pretty drat well, and seem to have better ballistics than rifled slugs. I had thought of just getting a new shotgun, but meh, I don't know about that.

As for the age, I'm not sure. I know they stopped making the model 1200s in 1981. SO its probably going on 30 years old, and its not doing it today. GO figure. If you know where I can find the age, that would be awesome. The serial number is in the L94**** range.

Loucks
May 21, 2007

No point
in feigning
surprise.


Count Sacula posted:

*grabs popcorn*

Don't get too excited. He's right.

Capn Beeb posted:

Every shotgun should have a bayonet lug.

YES!

Character Name
Jun 4, 2008



Flyboy925 posted:

I can and have shot hte rifled slugs out of this barrel, I just wanted the option of shooting saboted slugs. The guys I went hunting with last year used them, and they worked pretty drat well, and seem to have better ballistics than rifled slugs.

Before getting a rifled barrel, I'd recommend giving a box or two of Federal Truball slugs a try in your gun. They're a rifled slug with a hard plastic ball behind the slug that helps the rifling engage the barrel. They've proven just as accurate as sabots for me, and usually run about $4-5 per box of five, quite a bit cheaper than sabots.

Cabela's has them in stock, and apparently I'm not the only one who loves these things, average review there is 4.8/5 stars, and 100% of reviewers say they'd recommend them to a friend.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t..._link&cmCat=CRR

MidasAg
Oct 28, 2007
The Man of Silver

Those look good. I'll have to pick up a box or two of those. I still want to get a shorter barrel. 28" is just a little long to be trekking through the woods. If these are good, I can just get an 18" smooth bore deer barrel. I hate using a bead.

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Blaster of Justice
Jan 6, 2007

by angerbot


Loucks posted:

Don't get too excited. He's right.

Facts are known to cause drama in here. He might need the popcorns eventually.

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