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Perdido
Apr 29, 2009

CORY SCHNEIDER IS FAR MORE MENTALLY STABLE THAN LUONGO AND CAN HANDLE THE PRESSURES OF GOALTENDING IN VANCOUVER


Haha. I like how they included Valery but left out Mikey Palmice.

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Volvagia
Mar 15, 2008

Shumping my credits all over noobs

Just started watching this a few weeks ago for the first time, I'm now at the beginning of season 2. Season 1 was so rad, the only episode I didn't like was that one about the rapper.

Dickeye
Oct 12, 2007

"I never thought you'd be the one to help me achieve my dreams!"

Most Improved CD Poster Custom Title Award, 2007 to present.


Rewatching season one right now, gotta love the attention to detail in Denial, Anger, Acceptance.

Most shows would deal with the subplot with Meadow and Hunter wanting speed with them getting it and it's never mentioned again. Instead, they get the speed, and in the final sequence, you can see them twitching and sweating the whole time. Just one of those things I never noticed the first time around

Leviathan
Oct 8, 2001

I hear the jury's
still out.. on science.


Phew, took me a few weeks but I finally got through the entire series for the second time. I wish I would've know who Sepinwall was when it aired live- I like his writeup of the finale: http://blog.nj.com/alltv/2007/06/so..._in_americ.html

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004


My wife always refused to watch this show, saying she hated or just didn't care about mob stuff.

Three weeks ago when we had nothing else to do, I started playing the pilot and told her if she hated it we could stop there. Long story short, tonight we finish up season 4

A Violence Gang posted:

I basically agree, I think Chase's comments after the finale indicated that was what we were intended to understand, even though I don't think it makes any difference thematically whether Tony died in the diner or spent the rest of his probably short life looking over his shoulder for whoever he'd pissed off that week. And that's why I think it's such a cool ending.

Pretty much, which is I've never understood why anyone wasted time arguing about if he died or not. The series finale ends pretty much the way the first season did; with a failed attempt on Tony's life and indictments about to come down. The life Tony chose has been spent waiting for the other shoe to drop, and that's the entire point of the last scene...it doesn't matter whether he's clipped half a second after the cut to black, or if he's clipped three years later, or if he gets indicted, or if he winds up dying of a stroke during breakfast at a golf course twenty years later.

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005


Perdido posted:

Haha. I like how they included Valery but left out Mikey Palmice.

Haha.I like how they skipped Ralphie's stripper girlfriend Tracy but included his/Tony's race horse

Sean_Miller
Jul 23, 2001

I masturbate to Dog porn!


Because she was a who-ore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_87pRe1MUwE

A Violence Gang
Mar 2, 2009

Hurry-up no-huddle posting


"Let me ask you a question... you think Ralph's a little... weird about women?"
"I don't know, Ton', I mean, he beat one to death, just for uh... I forget, what was it again?"

whats_his_face
Aug 19, 2008


Ishamael posted:

Awesome.


If this video doesn't give you chills then get out of the thread!

(spoilers for all the seasons)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFB-gm_RXBQ

Fuuuuuck. Well, time to dust of the DVDs.

Fozaldo
Apr 18, 2004

Serenity Now. Serenity Now.


I just finished watching all these for the first time, what an amazing show. That ending though; what a mind gently caress. The one small part that really made me laugh was Paulie talking about taking acid one time and he saw laser beams coming out of Junior's eyes. Only Paulie can tell them like that.

The saddest part? No more Sopranos I don't think I was miss a show like this ever again.

Fozaldo fucked around with this message at Aug 7, 2010 around 16:56

Pet Rock Band
Jan 4, 2004

hey mister... can u play drums while I sing and play plastic guitar???


I've been going through my first time rewatching the show since it first aired. I'm watching the Season 3 premiere now, and I just had to post about how awesome the Peter Gunn Theme/I'll Be Watching You mashup was.

I also have realized I don't really remember much about seasons 3-6 part 1 at all. I knew the first season was mostly Tony vs Junior and his Mom. Season 2 was Richie Aprile/Janice/Pussy's wire tap stuff. But rewatching Season 2, it kind of seemed a little less focused and all over the place. Not that that was a really bad thing. It just slightly felt like Pussy getting caught happened really fast and out of nowhere. Tony knowing because of his fever dreams was just kind of weird.

But as for what else happens? I just remember the vague big arcs like Adrianna turning witness, Tony's cousin (Steve Buscemi), Ralph (Joey Pantoliano), Vito frolicking in NH with a fireman. I'm glad to not really remember too much in detail, since it's going to be kind of like watching it for the first time

Leyburn
Aug 31, 2001


Pet Rock Band posted:

I also have realized I don't really remember much about seasons 3-6 part 1 at all. I knew the first season was mostly Tony vs Junior and his Mom. Season 2 was Richie Aprile/Janice/Pussy's wire tap stuff. But rewatching Season 2, it kind of seemed a little less focused and all over the place. Not that that was a really bad thing. It just slightly felt like Pussy getting caught happened really fast and out of nowhere. Tony knowing because of his fever dreams was just kind of weird.

Tony knew because of Pussy's behaviour, particularly him going on the lam at the end of Season 1. His subconscious just wouldn't let him deceive himself about it any more. At least that's how I interpret it. The same thing happens again in Season 5 when Tony can't face up to wacking his cousin and he has a dream where he has to confront the reality of the situation.

A Violence Gang
Mar 2, 2009

Hurry-up no-huddle posting


Pet Rock Band posted:

I also have realized I don't really remember much about seasons 3-6 part 1 at all.

I remembered up through season 5 pretty well but the thing that I'd forgotten the most was the humor. From the finale, when Tony distracts AJ from the Army by getting him a job working on a movie Little Carmine's company was doing:

Tony: "It's about this detective who gets sucked into the Internet through his, uh, data port, and he has to solve the murders of some virtual prostitutes."
Carmela: "I read it and it is scary!"

That and Gloria calling on Annette Benning when she raises her hand in the crowd segment of "The Test Dream" killed me.

Fozaldo
Apr 18, 2004

Serenity Now. Serenity Now.


Any ideas why there wasn't more closure with Silvio at the end ?

discstickers
Jul 29, 2004



Fozaldo posted:

Any ideas why there wasn't more closure with Silvio at the end ?

Because there was a lot of closure to everyone else's?

Ishamael
Feb 18, 2004

You don't have to love me, but you will respect me.

Fozaldo posted:

Any ideas why there wasn't more closure with Silvio at the end ?

Because....they didn't want to do that?

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004


Fozaldo posted:

Any ideas why there wasn't more closure with Silvio at the end ?

Just when he thought he was out of the coma...Chase PULLLLLLLED him BACK IN.

Leyburn
Aug 31, 2001


Silvio was hosed at the end.

Fozaldo
Apr 18, 2004

Serenity Now. Serenity Now.


Rev. Bleech_ posted:

Just when he thought he was out of the coma...Chase PULLLLLLLED him BACK IN.

Ha good one, I had forgotten all about that. It just struck me as odd that they left us hanging, maybe it was to give the impression that there was more to follow making the ending even more of shock. There were quite a few loose ends; the Russian and Tony's skin cancer seemed to get forgotten quickly too.

TheAngryDrunk
Jan 31, 2003

"I don't know why I know that; I took four years of Spanish."

Leyburn posted:

Silvio was hosed at the end.

Yeah, that's what I got out of it. Didn't they say that he was unlikely to recover?

zVxTeflon
Jul 18, 2004

"The apocalyptic scenario in Beverly Hills Chihuahua is what happens if AirBud goes too far"


I thought the worst character ending was Johnny Sack. He gets and dies from cancer within the course of 1 episode. Uh ok.

Edit: \/\/ Yeah you're right. I shouldnt have said worst meaning it was bad. Just way too abrupt.

zVxTeflon fucked around with this message at Aug 19, 2010 around 23:29

gunblade
Sep 1, 2008

-Just lucky, I guess


zVxTeflon posted:

I thought the worst character ending was Johnny Sack. He gets and dies from cancer within the course of 1 episode. Uh ok.

Even if it was quickly done and over with, they portrayed it really well if you ask me.

Wartime Consigliere
Mar 27, 2010

by T. Fine


So Much of 6A and 6B (Why can't it just be 6 and 7?) is either rushed or dragged out too long.

Rocco
Mar 15, 2003

Hey man. You're number one. Put it. In. The Bucket.

Pet Rock Band posted:

I've been going through my first time rewatching the show since it first aired. I'm watching the Season 3 premiere now, and I just had to post about how awesome the Peter Gunn Theme/I'll Be Watching You mashup was.

That's one of my top TV episodes of all time.

Volvagia
Mar 15, 2008

Shumping my credits all over noobs

Well, just finished the finale, I thought it was great. There really isn't that much ambiguity there; Tony is definitely shot. There's just too much symbolism and symmetry going on in the finale for that not to be the case. The final season dragged at parts, but I really liked Tony's complete moral degradation throughout the whole thing, and it's important to note that as his family joins him at the table it symbolizes their corruption/lassitude as well. I think Meadow's difficulty parking is a metaphor for her own moral struggles, but then end she marries the son of a gangster and plans to become a lawyer to help mobsters like her father.

Ishamael
Feb 18, 2004

You don't have to love me, but you will respect me.

Volvagia posted:

Well, just finished the finale, I thought it was great. There really isn't that much ambiguity there; Tony is definitely shot.

Well I guess you've got it all sewn up then!

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004


Volvagia posted:

Well, just finished the finale, I thought it was great. There really isn't that much ambiguity there; Tony is definitely shot.

Wrap it up boys, Volvagia has just solved the case

Barney Must Die
Jul 21, 2008

Dog Crashes Car
Nothing is more awesome than a car crashing dog


Volvagia posted:

Well, just finished the finale, I thought it was great. There really isn't that much ambiguity there; Tony is definitely shot. There's just too much symbolism and symmetry going on in the finale for that not to be the case. The final season dragged at parts, but I really liked Tony's complete moral degradation throughout the whole thing, and it's important to note that as his family joins him at the table it symbolizes their corruption/lassitude as well. I think Meadow's difficulty parking is a metaphor for her own moral struggles, but then end she marries the son of a gangster and plans to become a lawyer to help mobsters like her father.

Can I suggest you go back and watch the show again, you clearly missed ... umm ... the plot.

Ungratek
Aug 2, 2005



I'm pretty sure Meadow not being able to park relates to the fact that she's 25, a Columbia grad, had a chance to go to either Med or Law school etc, but is still incapable of actually doing anything. She's marrying a connected man and will follow in the footsteps of Carm

Volvagia
Mar 15, 2008

Shumping my credits all over noobs

All I'm saying is, Tony looks up every time he sees the bell, and it cuts to his POV. The cut to black is lined up right with when we expect a POV shot. It seems pretty clear just based on that...but yeah, you're right, it could be any number of outcomes. To me personally though, there's too much that lines up too well, for one, Phil being taken out in a parallel murder from behind, in front of his family, earlier.

(also yeah I realize this whole thing has probably been discussed to death by now but hey I just finished the show for the first time so cut me some slack huh)

Volvagia fucked around with this message at Aug 30, 2010 around 04:55

I CHALLENGE THEE
Aug 25, 2005



Ungratek posted:

I'm pretty sure Meadow not being able to park relates to the fact that she's 25, a Columbia grad, had a chance to go to either Med or Law school etc, but is still incapable of actually doing anything. She's marrying a connected man and will follow in the footsteps of Carm

If the Sopranos is a tragedy (and I really believe it is) perhaps the saddest fact of all is that while their parents tried desperately hard to avoid it, both AJ and Meadow will end up exactly the same as them.

zVxTeflon
Jul 18, 2004

"The apocalyptic scenario in Beverly Hills Chihuahua is what happens if AirBud goes too far"


I CHALLENGE THEE posted:

If the Sopranos is a tragedy (and I really believe it is) perhaps the saddest fact of all is that while their parents tried desperately hard to avoid it, both AJ and Meadow will end up exactly the same as them.

Actually I find it pretty funny that AJ is turning out exactly like Little Carmine

Wartime Consigliere
Mar 27, 2010

by T. Fine


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKYNXo-jUBo

Season 6I Opener. The song forecasts a lot. Ray being a rat. The word death is mentioned and shows a Train and then Bobby. Meadow is called Guardian Angel and 3rd one out.

Is Meadow being late what allows Tony to get whacked?

quote:

The ancient Egyptians postulated Seven Souls.

Top soul, and the first to leave Vito at the moment of death, is Ren Janice, the Secret Name. This corresponds to my Director. He directs the film of your life from conception to death. Train Set The Secret Name is the title of your film. When you die, that's where Ren came in.

Second soul Bobby , and second one off the sinking ship, is Sekem:Gino Energy, Power, Light. The Director gives the orders, Sekem presses the right buttons.

MeadowNumber three is Khu, the Guardian Angel. He, she, or it is third man out...

Number four is Ba, the heart -- often treacherous. Ray Curto

Number five is Ka,AJ the Double, most closely associated with the subject. The Ka, which usually reaches adolescence at the time of bodily death, is the only reliable guide through the Land of the Dead

Ade and CarmellaNumber six is Khaibit, the Shadow, Memory, your whole past conditioning from this and other lives.

Number seven is Sekhu, the Remains.Tony and then Junior

A Violence Gang
Mar 2, 2009

Hurry-up no-huddle posting


quote:

Janice, the Secret Name. This corresponds to my Director. He directs the film of your life from conception to death.

This remind me how disappointed I was that we never got to see any of Janice's work as a "video artist". Probably because like everything Janice ever said, it was presumably bullshit, but still I think we could all benefit from Lady Kerouac or: Packing for the Highway to a Woman's Self-Esteem.

Leyburn
Aug 31, 2001


Ungratek posted:

I'm pretty sure Meadow not being able to park relates to the fact that she's 25, a Columbia grad, had a chance to go to either Med or Law school etc, but is still incapable of actually doing anything. She's marrying a connected man and will follow in the footsteps of Carm

Wait, what? Meadow isn't going to end up anything like Carm. Meadow has the means to be completely self-sufficient and is engaged to someone who is in a legitimate line of work, whereas Carm was completely dependant on her criminal husband.

And AJ obviously isn't going to follow in Tony's footsteps, I don't see how that would even be possible.

Edit: That Meadow ends up involved with the son of a mobster I think has more to do with the fact that it is a lot easier for her to be in a relationship with someone who has the same family background as herself.

Leyburn fucked around with this message at Aug 30, 2010 around 18:09

Leyburn
Aug 31, 2001


In fact, I think it is probably the biggest victory for Tony and Carm that they actually do raise two fairly normal, if spoilt and self absorbed, children who are likely to escape the cycle of violence that Tony himself was born into, and that Carmela opted into.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

This is an emoticon superimposed on an approximation of renowned UFC-fighter Chael Sonnen's visage.
I made this myself and totally didn't scrub my chest with acetone to make more room for sharpie-art.

Also: Ultima Online!
And germany has a really nice countryside, you should see it!


Volvagia posted:



It all seems so clear now!

Leyburn
Aug 31, 2001


I like how everyone is giving this guy poo poo for daring to have an opinion on a contentious issue.

(btw he's right)

Ishamael
Feb 18, 2004

You don't have to love me, but you will respect me.

Leyburn posted:

I like how everyone is giving this guy poo poo for daring to have an opinion on a contentious issue.

(btw he's right)

Well clearly he's right, there's no ambiguity!

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Leyburn
Aug 31, 2001


I do agree that it is ambiguous since they don't actually show it happen, but I still think he is right..

We all know your stance on the finale Ishmael, but folk are still allowed to discuss it I hope.

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