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Ooooooooo, it's essentially a big version of the PC-Q25 I've gotten for my NAS. --edit: D'oh, it's even called PC-Q26.
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Moey posted:Ugh that is awesome, but why is there a backplane for only the top two drives? Because backplanes are actually not that cheap. Even really stupid simple ones need to be robust enough to work, and built well enough to avoid signal issues. Even straight from the factory, the backplane costs ~$1 or so per port.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 19:13 |
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Because backplanes are actually not that cheap. Even really stupid simple ones need to be robust enough to work, and built well enough to avoid signal issues. Even straight from the factory, the backplane costs ~$1 or so per port. Yeah, but it would sure make my cabling so much more neat. I would gladly pay a premium for it implemented in a decent case. Loving my current Define Mini, but a backplane and a few more drive sleds would be awesome. Speaking of cases, I should probably sell my PC-Q08B that I don't use anymore. Edit: Awesome. http://kom.aau.dk/~pmr/StumbleUpon/SATA-backplane/ Moey fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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Lian-Li recently seems to have a tendency to make cases that make me wonder why they won't make it just slightly bigger in one dimension that would improve the usability dramatically. I recently got the PC-A51WRX after having a hell of a time finding anybody that carried it in the US, and I found that the back IO area of the case interfered with the top radiator mounting area (unless I reverse the radiator mount bracket, which then interferes with the 5.25" drive bay), which is something that could've been avoided completely if they had just made the thing about 5mm taller. And then there's this case, which I honestly don't see the point of being mITX - it's already near full ATX case sized, and making it just a little bit longer would've allowed for mATX motherboards as well, which would open up way more options for a file server build (like SuperMicro's excellent mATX server boards with built-in HBAs, or just people who might want more than 1 expansion card).
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 23:46 |
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I'm just about ready to retire my Netgear Readynas Ultra 4. I sorta want to go into the HP Microserver route but I'm a little scared to go down that way without HD hot swapping. Should I just go full custom and try to build something close to a Microserver instead? Really I'm looking for something that is at least 4 bays, energy efficient and gives me flexibility in software (Readynas doesn't have that at all and made it difficult to run some things). It'll mostly be used for media streaming and and running apps like SAB/Sickbeard/etc.
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 03:11 |
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If you're only looking to retire it because it's getting really anemic, you could go the route I did (sorry again Moey) and pick up a NUC. Treat the Readynas like SAN storage instead of anything with any usable compute power. Yeah it's around $400 but it's RELATIVELY painless to get XBMC / Plex running and the built-in IR port makes it really useful.
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 03:24 |
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Pudgygiant posted:If you're only looking to retire it because it's getting really anemic, you could go the route I did (sorry again Moey) and pick up a NUC. Treat the Readynas like SAN storage instead of anything with any usable compute power. Yeah it's around $400 but it's RELATIVELY painless to get XBMC / Plex running and the built-in IR port makes it really useful. Oh, I already have a separate HTPC with OpenELEC that works just fine with it. I just want to replace the NAS itself, it's just hosting files and shares. It's not doing any transcoding or anything like that.
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 03:44 |
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8-bit Miniboss posted:I'm just about ready to retire my Netgear Readynas Ultra 4. I sorta want to go into the HP Microserver route but I'm a little scared to go down that way without HD hot swapping. Should I just go full custom and try to build something close to a Microserver instead? I'm using XPEnology (aka the Synology DSM software running on generic PC hardware) on a really low powered PC (AMD A6 which is the i3 equivalent, 2 GB RAM, 4 WD Reds) and it's a really simple configuration. The only downside is a little bit of work/effort for upgrading, which typically just requires downloading updates manually from Synology's site, then running a script just prior to pressing "Update." Occasionally you do have to upgrade the USB boot drive for major version releases. Sickbeard and SAB are point and click installations and function just like the non-NAS versions.
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 11:48 |
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luigionlsd posted:I'm using XPEnology (aka the Synology DSM software running on generic PC hardware) on a really low powered PC (AMD A6 which is the i3 equivalent, 2 GB RAM, 4 WD Reds) and it's a really simple configuration. The only downside is a little bit of work/effort for upgrading, which typically just requires downloading updates manually from Synology's site, then running a script just prior to pressing "Update." Occasionally you do have to upgrade the USB boot drive for major version releases. I'm thinking about doing this too. Have you ever accidentally wiped out your entire drive trying to do an upgrade or when the upgrade has failed? I see reports of unmounted drives all over their forums.
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 13:20 |
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So I picked up a Synology DS214 NAS, and I absolutely love it. I opened up ports 22 for shell access, modified the standard HTTP/S ports, have a certificate setup on it, disabled the admin account, and have a 12 character alphanumeric password generated by LastPass as my (admin) account. I'm getting hit by SSH attacks every few hours - is that common? I have it autoblocking IPs for 5 incorrect attempts w/in 10 minutes, should I decrease that time limit? Any other security measures I should enable so I can access this bad boy from outside my LAN? Thanks, dudes!
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 17:06 |
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BoyBlunder posted:I'm getting hit by SSH attacks every few hours - is that common? I have it autoblocking IPs for 5 incorrect attempts w/in 10 minutes, should I decrease that time limit? Any other security measures I should enable so I can access this bad boy from outside my LAN? Open up some port other than 22 through your router. Pick some random port in the 5-digit range and forward it to port 22 on your internal NAS IP. It may not do much to stop someone deliberately trying to break into your network in particular, but it'll get rid of those annoying IP range scanners from China et. al. e: Changing ports is not really security at all, but IP range scanners are still annoying as gently caress and that's why you should do it. The correct answer is D. All of the above (and below). Cenodoxus fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Security through obscurity can work as an additional layer, but not as the only form of security. Instead, you should use RSA authentication before the password prompt and/or a SSH Gatekeeper - that way, you won't have to remember the port number either. Edited for clarification. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 18:16 |
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You can also just remove password authentication altogether via ssh and you should be able to recover from that with a local login if you had to, so no big deal for home users.
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luigionlsd posted:I'm using XPEnology (aka the Synology DSM software running on generic PC hardware) on a really low powered PC (AMD A6 which is the i3 equivalent, 2 GB RAM, 4 WD Reds) and it's a really simple configuration. The only downside is a little bit of work/effort for upgrading, which typically just requires downloading updates manually from Synology's site, then running a script just prior to pressing "Update." Occasionally you do have to upgrade the USB boot drive for major version releases. I'll keep it mind. Before I got the ReadyNAS, Synology was my other pick. Though to be honest, I'm trying to avoid the plugin stuff because it really soured me on them on the ReadyNAS side. FreeNAS and OpenMediaVault have me interested because of Jails and Debian base respectively.
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 19:05 |
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BoyBlunder posted:So I picked up a Synology DS214 NAS, and I absolutely love it. I opened up ports 22 for shell access, modified the standard HTTP/S ports, have a certificate setup on it, disabled the admin account, and have a 12 character alphanumeric password generated by LastPass as my (admin) account. Just turn on the IP Block and set it to 3 tries in 3 minutes. Pretty much stops them.
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 19:08 |
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I'm working on setting up a file server that had been discarded at work. It's got: Intel Xeon 3060, dual cores at 2.4Ghz Motherboard is a SuperMicro something or another 4x1GB non-ECC DDR2 RAM 2x 80GB system drives in RAID1 controlled by motherboard PCI Adaptec AAC RAID card 8x 500GB SATA Seagate drives in RAID5EE controlled by MDADM in Ubuntu Server I installed a GUI because I'm not too familiar with linux, and went with lubuntu. I'm currently building the RAID5EE, been building for a few hours now and is at 40%. On the Adaptec PCI card setup, I have each individual drive as a Volume-- so, it's basically a straight passthrough to the OS so that I can do software raid. I was avoiding hardware raid in case of a hardware failure-- I'd still need to get an expansion card for the SATA ports, but at least I could rebuild the raid without having that exact PCI card. This server is going to be a file archive. It's overkill, but I didn't have to pay anything for the hardware so Power consumption is not an issue, either, although I've got to find a way to turn down these fans because it sounds like a jet engine. CloFan fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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I got a 1tb and a 500gb in my Buffalo Linkstation, the latter just died. I saw tigerdirect in Canada has a Toshiba 3tb drive for $109, thinking of getting a couple and replacing both drives so I can mirror. Also seen a 4tb WD Red drive that's supposedly made for NAS, does this really make much of a difference? I'd either get 2 Toshibas or a single WD red.
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# ? Oct 25, 2014 16:22 |
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Might be better suited to the Haus, but I've had some issues with a few disks. I've been flipping them around on the SAS cable and the error seems to follow a couple ends on one SAS cable, but certainly all on one SAS port on the card. Occasionally one disk will just drop from my zpool. It's always one of the 4TB Reds, which all share one SAS port on my Highpoint 2720SGL. The 2TB drives on the other port are 100% reliable, no drops or errors reported there. The drop is always accompanied by the following SMART error: code:
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# ? Oct 25, 2014 22:40 |
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If I want to build myself a decent NAS box running freenas, what would the ideal number of drives per vdev be on raidz1 or raidz2? The plan is a server with ecc ram, server mobo, i3 CPU, and a 12-20 bay rack enclosure (norco or supermicro) server will be bulk personal storage (media, basically) so nothing mission critical. Do I need raidz2? Also, I'd like to initially start with my first vdev plugged into the mobo's ports, then add a m1015 or equivalent in the future when I add the next vdev. Is that a bad idea?
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# ? Oct 26, 2014 21:06 |
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Frank Dillinger posted:If I want to build myself a decent NAS box running freenas, what would the ideal number of drives per vdev be on raidz1 or raidz2? While researching NAS OS'es, this is what I came across when across making vdevs: FreeNAS "pros" posted:When determining how many disks to use in a RAIDZ, the following configurations provide optimal performance. Array sizes beyond 12 disks are not recommended. 8-bit Miniboss fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Oct 26, 2014 |
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8-bit Miniboss posted:While researching NAS OS'es, this is what I came across when across making vdevs: Following those recommendations only improves performance a tiny bit during heavy workloads of lots of small file writes. It will make no difference for the vast majority of people
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 06:10 |
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Ninja Rope posted:Following those recommendations only improves performance a tiny bit during heavy workloads of lots of small file writes. It will make no difference for the vast majority of people Pretty much, my vdevs are RAIDZ2 with 8 disks total, and they work fine.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 06:41 |
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Yeah, I figured it was extreme. Hence why I called it "pros" particularly since it came from Reddit.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 06:43 |
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I don't know if this is the right thread to ask about online storage, if not please direct me to the correct one one, but: I recently got hard hosed by Bitcasa killing their "unlimited storage" plan, so I have 10 terabytes of porn online that I need to download and back up somewhere else. It's generally not essential poo poo but since I've gathered it through a decade or so of net surfing I'd like to keep it somewhere, even if I hardly ever open it. I'm looking at Crashplan, Backblaze, and even Microsoft's new OneDrive unlimited Office storage. Does anyone know of a good online storage site that isn't super expensive? From what I've seen Backblaze only does backups of your computer as is, so I don't know how it handles poo poo that I download and then delete from my machine.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 04:45 |
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Why are you looking at online storage for your ten terabytes of porn instead of a large RAID array and offsite tape backup? For ten terabytes of porn, it'll pay for itself after a while. Or, hell, just offsite tape backup if you're not going to be looking at your ten terabytes of porn.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 05:15 |
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atomicthumbs posted:Why are you looking at online storage for your ten terabytes of porn instead of a large RAID array and offsite tape backup? For ten terabytes of porn, it'll pay for itself after a while. I'm not very good at computers, plus I liked the availability on my devices, mostly. From what I'm reading on this thread, availability of your files away from home is now way more viable with today's options? Sinology has no presence in my country, are the Western Digital My cloud drives acceptable?
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 05:40 |
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Don Tacorleone posted:I don't know if this is the right thread to ask about online storage, if not please direct me to the correct one one, but: Crashplan does not want to backup things for you that aren't also locally stored. In that way, it is like Backblaze (and I believe Mozy and Carbonite) in that you can't just upload something to it and then delete it from your computer. OneDrive might be your best option by far, but my understanding of how it works is not complete. That said, I think that OneDrive (the personal offering that gives you O365 and unlimited OneDrive for $6.99/mo) would work how you want, and you get the bonus of having O365 if that means anything to you. atomicthumbs posted:Why are you looking at online storage for your ten terabytes of porn instead of a large RAID array and offsite tape backup? For ten terabytes of porn, it'll pay for itself after a while. It depends on the price and how much janitoring the dude wants to do. A used LTO-3 tape drive and required hardware is maybe $150-500, then he would need at least 25 tapes, which would be another $200 or so. For LTO-4 it looks like the drive price is around double. These are prices in the US, and likely to be much higher anywhere else. Now for the local RAID array, if he's using 4TB disks, he'll need at least four of them with single redundancy (RAID5 or RAIDZ1) to get 10TB (12TB in this case) of usable space. Add the rest of the hardware and we're talking about $1000+ on a really good day. Again, US pricing which is likely better than wherever OP is. So for the sake of argument let's lowball and say the total cost for the local RAID plus tape equipment and media for the offsite backup is $1,300. That is the cost of 186 months, or 15.5 years of OneDrive (assuming it works the way he wants, something I am not positive about). And this is saying nothing of the pain in the rear end of updating his tape archives on a regular basis or things like electricity consumption. Of course, you do get the benefit in this scenario of instant local access to the entire, uh, library. sleepy gary fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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OneDrive will want to have a local copy of everything too unless you never A) install OneDrive and B) never upgrade past Windows 7 (because it's built-in/included in 8+). So you could upload your files once I suppose with OneDrive installed and then uninstall it or upload via the web interface.
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phosdex posted:OneDrive will want to have a local copy of everything too unless you never A) install OneDrive and B) never upgrade past Windows 7 (because it's built-in/included in 8+). In windows 8 you can set your OneDrive files to be Online Only. This will automatically delete the local copy once it's been uploaded to OneDrive so it's not taking up space on your local hard drive. I know for regular files it will download a local version only if you open it and then remove the local version again once you've finished interacting with it.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 18:46 |
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Krailor posted:In windows 8 you can set your OneDrive files to be Online Only. This will automatically delete the local copy once it's been uploaded to OneDrive so it's not taking up space on your local hard drive. I know for regular files it will download a local version only if you open it and then remove the local version again once you've finished interacting with it. I don't recall seeing that option, it's gone in 10 for now.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 19:42 |
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Krailor posted:In windows 8 you can set your OneDrive files to be Online Only. This will automatically delete the local copy once it's been uploaded to OneDrive so it's not taking up space on your local hard drive. I know for regular files it will download a local version only if you open it and then remove the local version again once you've finished interacting with it. Like this?: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/onedrive-online-available-offline It looks like MS isn't too confident in their Onedrive app: quote:We don't recommend working with online-only files at a command prompt or using Windows PowerShell or other command-line tools. Some actions might result in errors, or even cause file contents to be deleted.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 19:48 |
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Posted a Synology DS414j in SA Mart here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3678528 Bank fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Twerk from Home posted:Like this?: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/onedrive-online-available-offline Eh, I bet it's more PS/other tools are not meant to be working with an object store, there are some expectations of files on a local system that the translation to object store will just flounder with.
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# ? Nov 2, 2014 05:29 |
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http://slickdeals.net/f/7306452-qnap-nas-ts-451-339-99-ts-251-253-99-w-coupon-newegg Are either of those four bay QNAP servers any good?
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# ? Nov 2, 2014 07:44 |
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Sticking my toe in the world of NAS for the first time after my expanding iPhoto library has passed 70GB of space on my 256GB SSD MacBook Pro. I went with a Synology DS214se with 2 WD Red 3GB. Planning to use RAID1 since I have only just over 1TB of media in total. Hoping it will be a perfect home NAS for light use with decent reliability. If I can get automated syncing to Amazon Glacier storage I will be thrilled. Overall looks like a pretty good deal coming in around $450 after tax.
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# ? Nov 4, 2014 21:07 |
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Weird question for N36/40/54L owners. I just bought a used N40L and turns out the thing didn't come with the physical keys to open the thing. From what I see online the keys are all the same (southco W-23) - would someone be willing to get a copy of one of theirs cut and mailed to me? I'd compensate you of course. Original owner doesn't have them anymore. Trying to see if this is a possibility before I have to eat the cost sending this thing back ugh. EDIT: turns out that the key seems to be the same across all three editions. Minty Swagger fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Nov 5, 2014 |
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Those are stupid easy to pick if it's just to open it once.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 06:20 |
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Minty Swagger posted:Weird question for N36/40/54L owners. Can you not use something like this? I'd give you a photo but I snapped both of my keys so I have 0 now.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 09:43 |
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I'm looking for a NAS setup for a small business. Realistically, we don't need huge amounts of storage, but I feel like if we're going this route that we may as well just have plenty of overhead. Even still, I'm thinking with big overhead like 5TB or less. Here's the catch though - it needs a really, really simple GUI so that folks offsite can access files securely, because for most of them just setting up a VPN connection was like wizardry. Basically I want something with TLS that will let them get to files via a web address and throwing in a login and password. I figure most will let me set up file and folder permissions by user, but that's important as well.
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stimpy posted:I'm looking for a NAS setup for a small business. Realistically, we don't need huge amounts of storage, but I feel like if we're going this route that we may as well just have plenty of overhead. Even still, I'm thinking with big overhead like 5TB or less. Why not just set it up as a shared folder that they can use like any other folder, and they don't have to even think about credentials or how to use it or anything. Also, does it have to be on premises? Is cloud storage an option?
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