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Allistar posted:I've been on Nightlies for a long time. I'm actually doing a writeup on what you should put together (system wise) for a FreeNAS box. does anyone have experience with freeNAS and iSCSI? I can't seem to get anything working... I have two problems. first and foremost, I can't choose a device for iSCSI extent. All that shows up in the menu is file. second, even if I type in a location for a file extent, when I try to enable iSCSI it refuses to do so, giving me "Error: 1"
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| # ¿ Dec 3, 2009 01:56 |
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specifically, the log states Dec 3 01:59:17 freenasbl istgt[4337]: istgt_lu.c:1223:istgt_lu_add_unit: ***ERROR*** LU1: LUN0: format error Dec 3 01:59:17 freenasbl istgt[4337]: istgt_lu.c:1473:istgt_lu_init: ***ERROR*** lu_add_unit() failed Dec 3 01:59:17 freenasbl istgt[4337]: istgt.c:1247:main: ***ERROR*** istgt_lu_init() failed Dec 3 01:59:17 freenasbl root: Failed to restart service iscsi_target no other services are enabled, no cifs, nothing
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| # ¿ Dec 3, 2009 02:00 |
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complex posted:Confirmed bug. http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/f...php?f=53&t=4561 fucker. that's what I get for trying to do with a non commercial product I guess
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| # ¿ Dec 3, 2009 03:04 |
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H110Hawk posted:Sun strongly advises against this, but it does technically work. wouldn't this kill performance completely
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| # ¿ Dec 3, 2009 21:35 |
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complex posted:Confirmed bug. http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/f...php?f=53&t=4561 friendship waffle posted:specifically, the log states installed the 0.69 version of FreeNAS--don't really need ZFS or granular authentication/access for iSCSI--and got everything working. Now to see if I can team together a few Gbit NICs and get anything better than the sluggish speed I'm seeing right now. (processor is relatively modern with 3GB of RAM, HDDs are the old boot array for this machine, RAID1 15K, hopefully the bottleneck is ethernet, otherwise it's a bit pitiful) what is this fucked around with this message at Dec 4, 2009 around 01:55 |
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Gorfob posted:Hows this going? I'm about to embark on my own build-your-own-NAS-adventure myself. freenas supports most common hardware from what I've tried, and you can boot it from a liveCD, saving the settings onto USB which means you basically need a computer from the last 3 years or so, some reasonable amount of ram, an optical drive, a free usb port, keyboard, mouse, vga, and network adapter. you need a hard drive or array attached to actually be able to use it but the requirements are super low
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| # ¿ Dec 6, 2009 19:38 |
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If you don't care about speed use NTFS and install NTFS FUSE 3G on the mac. Otherwise use HFS+ and install macdrive or something similar on the PC. Finally if you can live with a horrible filesystem and a ridiculous filesize cap use FAT32
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| # ¿ Mar 1, 2010 18:52 |
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It looks like there are freeBSD drivers for the adaptec 5805Z. Have you tried installing those?
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| # ¿ Apr 1, 2010 16:01 |
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Actually, it looks like FreeBSD supports the Adaptec 5805 series without additional drivers. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.2R/hardware.html Which version of FreeNAS are you using? Try one of the 7.1 nightlies. If you are using 6.x I can imagine there wouldn't be support.
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| # ¿ Apr 1, 2010 16:10 |
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Synology's Time Machine support is supposed to be pretty decent. Their NAS products are very nice overall as well.
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| # ¿ Apr 6, 2010 10:47 |
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Uh, just buy the Synology. They're already really cheap compared to netgear's ReadyNAS product line.
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| # ¿ Apr 6, 2010 15:49 |
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I think they don't let you do TLER modification anymore.
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| # ¿ Apr 8, 2010 16:14 |
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The DS210j is synology's consumer line. It has a slower processor and only 128MB of RAM compared to the DS209+II, which has 512MB of RAM and also an eSATA port for connecting more high speed storage. You maybe can upgrade the RAM in the DS210j, which would close most of the gap. Th DS210j is also newer, but Synology lets you run their latest software on all their platforms, so that isn't an issue.
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| # ¿ Apr 11, 2010 15:20 |
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They're not hardware raid controllers in the sense of separate hardware for raid. It's a custom linux/bsd box with a processor that has to handle software RAID, a network stack, sharing the drive over the network, sharing USB printers, running Bittorrent, streaming music, and god knows what else. It's got an ARM processor from 2006 that's likely slower than what's in your phone, so I'm not sure what you're expecting. http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/...howall=&start=1 Newer high end NAS products have 1-2Ghz atom or other x86 CPUs and still struggle in some cases with RAID 5 and samba.
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| # ¿ Apr 22, 2010 17:11 |
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It's way, way down on the list of NAS performance, a newer synology, thecus, qnap, or netgear "small business" product will blow it away and give you at least three and five times the performance, and more likely closer to ten times the speed. As a point of reference, the synology DS1010+ gets 80MB to 100MB read and write speeds in RAID 5. That's MB, not Mb. http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/comp..._nas/Itemid,190 what is this fucked around with this message at Apr 22, 2010 around 17:17 |
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I'm not a synology whore, by the way, I just use their products and like them. They are cheap, expandable, and work well. The diskstation software is easy to use and more than good enough. It's not enterprise quality, but it's more than most consumers need and very usable in an office environment to store and share documents. They're also always adding new things to their software, and the new stuff is compatible even with older devices. For example they recently added Amazon S3 bucket support for cloud backups, Hybrid RAID for disparate drive sizes (ugh but I guess people love this), iPhone apps to look at your data remotely, SMS notification, energy saving smart fan control, and a bunch of other stuff. By most accounts Thecus and QNAP are just as good, and Netgear's ReadyNAS is expensive but also good. what is this fucked around with this message at Apr 22, 2010 around 21:20 |
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You're getting into the enterprise range feature wise but you're still being a cheapskate and trying to pay consumer prices. Is this a joke project or a real project? If the former, drop the requirement for redundant power supplies. If it's mission critical, buy a proper SAN or NAS from Equallogic or some other lower end enterprise vendor. You're going to pay more than 10 times as much though. edit: don't get me wrong, there are rack mounted 8 bay NAS products out there, the QNAP TS-859U-RP comes to mind, it should be around $1800-$2000, but you're realllly getting yourself into trouble if you're trying to shoehorn what is ultimately a soho product into an enterprise environment. Asking for redundant power supplies seems to indicate that. what is this fucked around with this message at May 11, 2010 around 19:10 |
| # ¿ May 11, 2010 19:05 |
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Cyberdud posted:Am i better off just telling them that for this kind of money we won't be getting a reliable enterprise solution? YES. Walk away from the project. That way you you don't get blamed when things go spectacularly wrong. You could hack together some stuff out of freeNAS and spare parts, and it would work great! Until it didn't and you had to build a new box and spend a week recovering your data. Would you get fired for a week of downtime? If the answer is anything approaching "maybe" then go with a real enterprise system with a 4 hour onsite service plan. what is this fucked around with this message at May 12, 2010 around 14:39 |
| # ¿ May 12, 2010 13:14 |
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bob arctor posted:Anyone used one of these? (Pro/Elite/FS) How's the speed compared to other commercial SOHO/SMB NASes on the market. Basically I need an NFS target for backups for 2 servers and would rather go with something prebuilt as I have an aversion to cobbled together stuff. They're a joke, don't buy a drobo. We've been over this. Buy a QNAP, Synology, Thecus, or Netgear (pro line only). I'd recommend one of the first two.
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| # ¿ May 13, 2010 17:47 |
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Those aren't NAS devices. Decent hardware raid is going to be expensive, since what you're talking about is a small computer handling the raid inside the case with the hard drives. Sans digital makes some reasonable stuff, though unless they've pushed out new firmware it used to be that on their lower end models you couldn't have arrays bigger than 2TB over USB - only eSATA. Drobo is just terrible though. It's slow, expensive, and it's basically a gimmick targeted towards people who just want to be able to slap drives in a box. It may still not support volumes larger than 2TB? Not sure, I know that used to be the case but I have to think they've rolled out new firmware. Right now the market has tilted significantly away from hardware RAID boxes. Instead it's mostly drive shelves and NAS. Drive shelves for people who already have a server or something with a nice hardware RAID solution, or home users who use software RAID with port multiplication on eSATA. NAS for people who want to share data or connect over ethernet. If you can live with iSCSI, which can be glitchy particularly on the Mac, then I would recommend going with a nice NAS from one of the top tier consumer vendors, or building your own and rolling freeNAS. You can get very good speeds out of the 2xGb ethernet models. You are going to pay a grand or more for the box, hard drives not included. what is this fucked around with this message at May 25, 2010 around 14:57 |
| # ¿ May 25, 2010 14:51 |
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The synology boxes are very controllable...
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| # ¿ Jun 9, 2010 20:04 |
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Put together a loving freeNAS box if you want to sperg out about the particular version of Apache your NAS is running. As has been pointed out, smallnetbuilder is a very good website for reviews of NAS appliances but changing out the linux/bsd kernel is not what you do to an appliance.
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| # ¿ Jun 9, 2010 22:56 |
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Most of the NAS appliances support plugins, addons, and have an open SDK for adding stuff. But changing out the default apache? Really?
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| # ¿ Jun 10, 2010 00:46 |
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FreeNAS does ZFS and is worth looking into. It's a bit unpolished around the edges, particularly if you're running the nightlies, but everything works.
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| # ¿ Jun 11, 2010 21:41 |
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TDD_Shizzy posted:Never said I was lazy or had a lack of willingness to learn, I have just never used anything other than windows and mac and don't want to jump in feet first without some decent research, and would prefer to do the whole the the "right way" other than just throwing together a $1000 box, and learn with trial and error. Look at FreeNAS. It's basically plug and play if you have compatible hardware. ZFS support and everything else (iSCSI, etc). It's FreeBSD underneath, but you can run it from a usb stick or liveCD. Very low hardware requirements. Pick your hardware based on how fast you want things.
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| # ¿ Jun 23, 2010 13:19 |
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No, drobo is terrible, don't buy a drobo. Buy a Thecus, QNAP, Synology, etc NAS, or maybe throw together a FreeNAS box. I'd recommend an off the shelf solution for ease of support.
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| # ¿ Jun 24, 2010 17:22 |
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Synology devices work great with Macs, Windows PCS, and linux/freebsd. Most NAS devices are "software" RAID using a custom linux/freebsd stack, so I'd venture to say that vendors will release "firmware" (ie operating system software) updates that address the issue for free. I put software RAID in quotes because fundamentally all RAID is, in a sense, software RAID. In this case there is no dedicated hardware running the software however, the same processor handles network tasks and RAID parity calculations.
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| # ¿ Jul 13, 2010 16:36 |
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Wow, you are literally a crazy person. Is it CP you're storing or just your facebook passwords in a text file?
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| # ¿ Aug 16, 2010 06:08 |
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crm posted:Are these Sans Digital bays any good? Well, it's not actually a RAID enclosure, but sure if you need a place to put some drives it works fine. That's basically all you're paying for.
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| # ¿ Aug 19, 2010 16:53 |
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PopeOnARope posted:It's pretty handy if you want to clean up your desk of external enclosure bays / have a WHS box. The performance is pretty lovely, though. 20MB/s USB, 70~ MB/s eSATA. I'm not sure what you're talking about - it's full 3Gbps eSATA. If you get slower speed it's your drives or your software RAID. It's just an enclosure. It doesn't affect speed. It's possible that one of us is confused about the model we're talking about here (could be me I suppose).
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| # ¿ Aug 21, 2010 02:59 |
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Whatever you do, don't buy a drobo. Literally anything else will be better.
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| # ¿ Oct 12, 2010 14:49 |
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necrobobsledder posted:Should we update the OP with "don't bother with the Drobo. Don't say we didn't warn you"? Because that's about as far as we need to explain ourselves I feel. Just type it into Google and you'll see the consensus. Yes. It's annoying having to repeat the advice constantly.
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| # ¿ Oct 12, 2010 17:19 |
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You could get a Synology R810+ and RX410 for a 2U 8 drive solution. They're nowhere near full length, by the way.
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| # ¿ Nov 30, 2010 16:50 |
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These are the charts you want: RAID5 Average Write http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/inde...temid=&chart=14 RAID5 Average Read http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/inde...temid=&chart=15 The ReadyNAS Pro is not at the top of the list.
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| # ¿ Nov 30, 2010 20:29 |
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foodfight posted:Given the nature of the data I can't just kick off a CHKDSK at anytime (and hooray! there is no backup...) Think of this as a learning experience.
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| # ¿ Dec 1, 2010 21:25 |
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Probably you'd mount the iSCSI target using the globalSAN initiator on the mac, and then use that mounted "drive" for VMware fusion.
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| # ¿ Dec 2, 2010 20:44 |
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frogbs posted:So I just bought a synology DS209, and am having a few issues with it. I'm accessing it from OSX using AFP. Most of the time its fine, transfers are fast and it seems to be funcitoning perfectly. Randomly, the volume will just crash and will have to rebuilt (im running a raid 1 on two seagate 1tb drives). It seems to do this completely randomly, although I have noticed that it does it more often when I am copying from a SMB share to it, although I doubt thats related. Is my configuration to blame, or is it more likely that there is a problem with one of the drives or the synology itself? I don't have that model but have had no issues with AFP/SMB/iSCSI and Synology. What version of DSM are you using? RAID1 should be reliable...
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| # ¿ Dec 13, 2010 19:27 |
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I'm using DSM3 as well. I'd have to vote for drive problems, particularly since you're rebuilding the array and it's dead-simple RAID1. Is it the same drive that goes bad every time?
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| # ¿ Dec 13, 2010 23:27 |
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Jonny 290 posted:The rules that it has are the same that Linux mdraid has. So, no, it's not Drobo style. Most people prefer it that way. Actually, the current firmware offers drobo style mixed hard drive sizes quote:Synology Hybrid RAID (SHR) http://www.synology.com/enu/product..._Management.php That said I don't recommend using a Drobo or Drobo-style "hybrid RAID" or "unRAID" or whatever you want to call it. I simply don't trust any of these systems and there's always a performance hit. Slower, and less reliable? Where do I sign up?
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| # ¿ Dec 20, 2010 20:25 |
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| # ¿ May 20, 2013 04:42 |
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Not synology's, no. It's too new for me to know about the reliability (hint: that means don't trust it). Their other stuff has been very solid in my experience, and they have some of the better software for consumer NAS decives. There are countless drobo horror stories out there however. And I do mean countless. I've experienced drobo disasters in person.
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